Actually Bo was pretty awful if you look at OAA. The problem is OAA is a terrible way to determine the productivity of an infielder. Mark is probably making his judgement from hi savant page which is incorrect. OAA is more used for outfielder defense. A simple google search about how OAA is used, you could find that out. Not sure why Mark doesn't use UZR or DRS which shows that Bo was actually an above average short stop defensively. Haven't watched the whole thing yet but I bet Mark talks up Bobby Witt Jr's defense even though Witt was awful defensively if you look at DRS or league average if you look at UZR.

@@candian75he absolutely talked up Bobby Witt’s defense. OAA is kind of had in general, but as you mentioned, ESPECIALLY infielders.

@@andrewarnold9751 I figured he would because OAA absolutely loves Bobby Witt Jr but every other defensive metric doesn't.

@@candian75bo is definitely not above average at short

@@kennethhanes5702 I mean he was this year according UZR and DRS. 4.1 UZR. 0 is league average and was +5 in DRS. Argue with the stats lol.

Biggest drop was Wander *****

@@chernandez212331he wasn’t on the list, so he wasn’t a drop. If he was on the list, he wouldn’t have dropped

@@kennethhanes5702 I know bro, lighten up

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nice spoilers a hole

Same here 😮‍💨 love me Corey Seeger as a rangers fan 😂

I just came here to say the same thing.

Playoffs isnt a good enough sample

@@Ethanz08s It is when its Carlos Correa.They guy obviously has been playing hurt the past couples seasons (passing medicals has been a complication) and a healthy Correa is an all-star for sure.

@@Ethanz08s you missed the entire point

bro just blabbers on and on don't take what he says seriously

Especially with Toronto. He has admitted to not liking the Jays

@@ChardeeMacDennis96 yea and he never mentions defensive stats just says “they have a good glove” or “they are horrendous” bo certainly isn’t the best shortstop but he’s serviceable there def not “horrendous” lmao

He was 20th percentile OAA, 31st percentile arm strength, that’s not very solid

@@birdinflight3861 Well you aren't supposed to look at OAA to judge the quality of an infielder. That stat was mainly created to judge the defense of an outfielder. If you do a simple google search you could see for yourself. A better metric for infielders are UZR or just looking at DRS. Bo's UZR was 4.1. 0 is league average so Bo was 4x better than the average shortstop on defense. Mark also talks about how good Witt Jr was on defense even though according to UZR which was 0.2 he was about average and DRS hates him.

I think that's kind of been the knock on Seager though right? Injured a lot.

@@SystemsAllianceyeah it has

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The Mets obviously have the best players at every position its not even close seager is so overrated

The only thing more unbearable than Giraffedildo’s bias in his videos is this recycled comment.

If only the Padres had another SS who could have started in his place while he recovered on the IL.

He gets dogged for defense, but it was better than 2022 and slightly below average. An injury did cut into his counting stats, but if he stays healthy, he’ll be top 5.

Yeah there’s no way some of the guys above him on his list are above them I’d put him above or around Gunnar Henderson

Marc trying not to mention Coors when talking about a Rockies player challenge (impossible)

Errors are a terrible metric. Castellanos had no errors this year does that mean he's the best outfielder in baseball?

@@saulgoodman8501 obviously that’s not what I’m saying. Bo had his struggles early on in his career and he’s come a long way, which is why I think the “horrendous” tag should be removed.

source?

@@iangold2987 The Orioles manager and GM both said it's a real possibility. Plus, common sense would suggest the better defensive SS should play SS. lol

@@brandondillman5841 i mean, to most it wouldn’t be common sense since he’s literally the most anticipated prospect to be called up

@@iangold2987 and Gunnar Henderson was the #1 prospect in baseball last year. Having 2 great defensive infielders up the middle is a big advantage. They've also had Holliday play 215 innings at 2nd base in the minors. So, they've been preparing for this possibility.

Gunnar is gay. He is awesome!

Not really, going from consistently being one of the worst defenders in the league to all of a sudden having 1 “mediocre” defensive season still makes you pretty horrendous overall.

I’d probably have Bo slightly but he is horrible defensively, whereas Dansby is the complete opposite

@@elevatorelliot714 the thing is Bo wasn’t even bad defensively last year, he was pretty average. Only committed single digit errors

@@bockstaboi6638Yeah I probably overstated how bad Bo was defensively, but ai still don’t think he was great there. Again I’d still take him over Dansby but it’s close

Defense impacts games more than you think. Dansby Swanson is probably one of the 5 most valuable defensive players in all MLB, so even a 104 wrc+ last year made him a 5 win player. You're right that Bichette is a much better hitter with a 125 wrc+ last season, but his defense is nowhere close to Dansby so he was a 4 win player. Dansby also plays almost every game every season, whereas Bichette has missed some time with injuries

should be 5 or 6 on this list, possibly higher.

lindor is without a doubt the second best shortstop in the league

@@bradyerker If he is I have no complaints as a Mets fan. I'm just trying to look at it somewhat objectively---he has times where he might not even be a top 10 shortstop and other times when he is THE shortstop.

Baseball is a pretty streaky sport in general though, very few players have metronome-like consistency. Whatever it averages out to is pretty darn good.

Witt could be the best SS in baseball at some point, but he’s not better defensively than Lindor. Not even close. Lindor had 7 DRS in a down year and still led the league in UZR with 9.1 Bobby had a -6 DRS and an 0.2 UZR. He improved greatly from his rookie season, but he’s not yet average defensively, whereas Lindor is elite.

Hes not better then lindor

Not to mention Lindor started off really cold, which was why Dansby got the 2nd NL SS spot

Number 3

@@Toews1247thank you Lindor isn’t even that good I know he hit 30 bombs but he hit like 255 so he not better

Are you saying Bo is the best shortstop or just top 3 or something cause I think anyone who says Seager isn’t the best is on something he might’ve been able to win the mvp if he wasn’t injured

He did put him at 2nd. Think he was around 9th

He means like dropping the ranking

But in context Marc is clearly saying he took a step back offensively@@dgasparino

It was a typo. The next guy was number five. Bogaerts went from 5 to 6