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This was bruuuutal

It drove me nuts every time they did it. They argument was how the “Sabre” was too small, even tho the Sabres are the biggest part!

Eichel once made the same mistake.

You'd have to have someone who's never watched hockey do a ranking. Fans are always going to have a built in bias

Yea but those of us high in logic and reasoning can put any bias aside and rank them objectively

That’s exactly why I feel like the red wings logo is actually A.

These folks were a bit self serving in their choices. Kind of disappointing how they set the stage for how they would pick, and then completely abandoned the plan, lol.

well heritage has to play a part. the history factor is what makes a logo so revered, and iconic, its what gives the logo its meaning. saying history shouldnt be a factor is moronic, yeah it favours older teams but its also one of the most important parts of logos.

Twitter would've canceled all of them.

Honestly though, I just want to see an actual black hawk as a logo because every concept of it is pretty good

I don't think people realise that the Blackhawks logo is dedicated and symbolizes a Sauk leader, Black Hawk. It's not disrespectful at all yet somehow this new generation thinks its the equivalent of the Redskin logo in the MLB...

@@owenw1996 personally, I just think an actual black hawk would make people wanna buy more merch. Also “mlb”? Do you mean like the cleveland guardians or did you mean nhl or nfl?

@@silentstarproductions2469 I can see that as being fine aswell, but people think its a racist logo when it's not at all. I meant the Cleveland Indians of the MLB before they changed their name, as a comparison to a team with a racist logo

I was gonna say this. Aren't they the only team that doesn't have their logo as the crest on the front of their primary jerseys?

welcome to 2021 I guess 😬

@@ryanr1027 i mean the logo isnt that bad, its controversial and i wouldnt mind it being changed, but you cant say chicago dont deserve the hate theyre getting this year. this whole kyle beach situation is disgusting, and chicagos management, despite knowing about it at the time did absolutely nothing, cause they were more focused on winning championships. its kinda good that theyre terrible this year.

Snowflakes

@@zTeaTheCoffee has nothing to do with the fcking logo. It’s a respectful logo

@@zTeaTheCoffee you know this is Chief Blackhawk right? He was a real person.

Sometimes they do

For the best and for the worst. When you choose a favorite team, you gotta stick with them ;)

Rangers fan of 32 years. You pick a team and you're not allowed to change it 😊

Good for you for getting into it! A bit more exciting than field hockey eh? Have any of your buddies gotten into it as well?

very similar mate, I got a san jose stealth jersey because they look sick and now they're my team

@@roryvonmeyer2643 I'm not his buddy but also am Australian, I am a rangers fan. I know my profile pic has red wings lol but It's Hasek holding a cup, I love goalies in general. I have been following the rangers since Henrik, I love watching Shesterkin play, Demko too, Knight and Hart as well!

Pretty sad if you ask me.

Agreed

And somehow it’s racist to honor the Natives... unreal

if you are old enough to read you can find out in the description :)

So sad lol wtf

Correction: it is 100% a p with wings

@@jamesgabriele1066 it's actually a puck with the "wing" indicating movement, and using that wing to make the "P" for Philadelphia. So it's actually a better fit for hockey than the Flames.

That was my first thought when they suggested that they should have just slapped the wing on the other side.... I was like "But then it wouldn't be a P for Philly anymore......"

Still looks terrible

their logic makes no sense

It's an Italicized P with wings. How is that copying Detroit lmfao. The red wings logo is copied from a fucking cycling company from 1893 lol

@@jazzturkey2108 facts

​@@jazzturkey2108I don't think they knew it was a p lol

I love all the "winged" logos. Red Wings, Blues, and Flyers are all goats. Hell, even the senators got some winged flare, and I like it there too.

They can absolutely do better. Instead of taking it as disrespect you should actually teach people what it means.

Blackhawks suck they let their video coach get away with sexual assault

@@mattmccutcheon2683 that has nothing to do with what I was saying but ok

" going as far to ban headdresses from the United Center." The wokeness is cringy.

It's named after the owners military division yes, but it's still stealing the likeness of native imagery which is racist whether you like it or not, and the Blackhawks haven't had native support since 2018, as a Chicago fan, Bar down has every right to exclude them, especially with the sexual assault case really not helping their publicity, Chicago needs to change, they can go like Portland and we get an even doper logo from it.

I was going to ask of they know what a saber is?

@@tristanjames6134 Clearly they don't.

I mean they're only half wrong. Since the swords are technically sabers

It's actually a bison.

@@calvinw8470 facts

PC culture. It's a strange time my friend.

It's literally based on a man named Blackhawk is it not?

@@three6hunter yeah it’s actually honoring him

@@chrishulse3381 the jets logo is in A. It got cut off by the cameras. You didn't even watch the video dude

It's not because they think the logo is racist (it's not.) Its because of the sexual assault allegations Edit: checked the description, I was wrong.

Thanks for being sorry. I will admit that it isn't the best but like, still, it is a human who was remembered for something in history. and it has so many good details in it.

This didn't age well.

@@evhockey1242 what do you mean?

it´s one of the best, truly

Completely bias because I am a huge hawks fan, it’s the best

Not even a blackhawks fan but it's definitely the best one next to Redwings and Oilers in terms of iconic.

Hell yeah. Not a chicago fan but that logo is a beauty. Im also Indegeneous American so im bias lol

@@armandosoria7993 are the Blackhawks offensive to you?

And the Hurricanes

Bardown believes the Blackhawks logos “racist”

Blackhawks have one of the coolest logos wtf

@@keithwalwyn7823 idk if it’s as much they think it’s more so they have to cuz they would be crucified if they said anything else with how soft ppl are these days😂

I have a personal vendetta against Chicago sports and I don’t like the Blackhawks logo because of it’s stupid smirk, but I do like the fact it’s based on the tribes that use to live in the region. I would put it as a C personally.

sad

stuck in the same category as columbus, ranked below arizona and carolina. absolute disrespect

It’s ok the Flyers have still won the cup more recently than the Leafs

I have no allegiance to the Flyers, but their logo is sick! My initial reaction on looks alone was that it was a contender for the best, but it doesn’t incorporate any clever nods to the city’s culture like some other logos do, so I think it’s Solid A. Total whiff on that ranking from the squad!

How about them talking about as children they didn't see parts of logos, but then talk shit about the flyers without recognizing their logo as the winged p. God damn infants.

Agreed

Thank you as a hawks fan I feel like they leave them out alot

@@galacticwolf9192 it's because they openly take a side in the political fight over the name and logo and they are too scared or biased to actually have a real opinion on it. Even though the Blackhawks and Natives have said between all of the teams that were named after Native Americans. They actually like the Blackhawks one. Because it was made with modesty. Not as a caricature or slur.

It’s the coolest logo in all of sports.

Lmao 😂

Correct it is. Its also worth noting that their tribe, which is still in the area, approve and love the name.

@@Ebbs-ez2fs exactly

@@Ebbs-ez2fs “The Chicago Blackhawks Foundation had previously partnered with the American Indian Center of Chicago (AIC) to educate the public about American Indians, but the AIC ended that agreement in 2019, citing the perpetuation of "harmful stereotypes."”

I'm thinking it's not them but the higher ups actually forbid them from using it. Idk maybe just me

@@christianacosta9556 you'd be correct, though if there weren't outcry, shit wouldn't change. people need to educate themselves, and acknowledge that the Hawks logo is meant to bring honor to Chief Blackhawk, not to mock indigenous people. It is invalid for a team to be excluded for honoring a group or culture that is honored by the teams in doing such. we're tired of hearing people cry about it, it's about time we teach em.

oh yeah, its definitely up there with Detroit

Last time they did a list with the reverse retro jerseys, they didn’t show the Hawks from the front.

@@tomiio.s the family of Black Hawk has condemned the logo, as well as over 1500 tribes across the United States. White boys really love complaining when their team's racist logo gets shit on.

Habs logo Looks like a Boston public restroom toilet seat with an H in the middle .

It’s literally only woke media that cares

I never really thought of that, nice call

Bruh one of their coaches sexually assaulted a player, they covered it up, gave the guy a recommendation letter, then let the coach go to a university where he raped a teenager. Makes sense they didn’t wanna include it

@@anonymousanonymous1338 What does that have to do with the logo?

Let go Devils!

At least you got Hamilton. Let’s go Devs!

We got some good defenders this off-season

@@rhodadixon6308 yeah I’m stoked as hell for this upcoming season. It’s good to be recognized for something other than our own goals every season!

@@basilictrone42 I’m still so happy we got him. I always liked him on the Canes but now I’m super excited for him to be ours. LGD

They’re just snowflakes, it literally isn’t offensive in any way, like bruh search up the meaning of their name

yep. Bulls, Heat, Saints, Raiders, Red Wings, Blackhawks is probably my top 2 from each league I watch.

Red Wings suck Pittsburgh is better

When that logo was created the blackhawks (people it’s based on) were in support of it. The only people who aren’t in support are money hungry people who have nothing to do with the logo.

@bardown

we all know why they didn’t do it, unfortunately

NO KIDDING, they get so fired up about the 'C' in the Flames logo, the 'A' in the Avalanche, the 'C' in Canucks, and the 'V' in Vegas haha. They don't even notice the 'P' in the Flyers logo, such disrespect...

@@samuelkobe yeah they're the Fylers I wouldn't respect them either

@@Dane233 I don't know that team.

sens logo is pretty fire tho ngl

I was thinking the same thing! Ottawas logo is dogdoodoo! Philly is at least in the B tier but personally I would put it in A tier.

@Adventures With Mongos there is no Blackhawk tribe… the team was named for the original owners WW1 division (Blackhawk division). Which got its name from Chief Black Hawk of the Sauk Tribe. He had a lot of accomplishments like fighting against the British…. If you’re accusing people of not knowing the history you should probably do some homework too.

@@bone_krusher5474 this guy says educate yourself and doesnt know basic facts you can look up what a joke

I have no problem with the team keeping the Blackhawks name, as others have said, its based on the original owners WW1 division name, which was named after a well known Chief from the Illinois area. That being said, the logo is a goofy caricature of an Native American and I understand why some consider it offensive. If Blackhawks is for a WW1 division anyways, why not switch the logo to the awesome one that looks like a hawks head with the same colour scheme someone designed a few years ago? It looks awesome, and isn't offending anyone.

@@KS-xk2so you get it! Thanks, I love the name but understand if the logo changes.

@Adventures With Mongos you got owned. are you marissa roberto's burner account by any chance?

Nah... they didn't

CHICAGO ISNT EVEN IN THIS QUIZZ!!! IM RATTLED

@@jangutt3687 it's insane that Chicago isn't even in it. Probably honestly because of the bullshit political fight about the logo

Makes sense, Blackhawks logo is one of the best in sports

Luca had some brutal takes in this video.

@@saskscott26 just in this video? Lol

While I agree with your points, all that really matters is public perception. If the general public wants to see it changed, it will change. Time will tell.

It's laughable that people can't discern between this and a Chief Wahoo caricature.

@@astrobot3038 nobody except over sensitive snowflakes want this changed

You do realize that Black Hawk and his entire community were victims of a genocidal slaughter called the 'Black Hawk War' that involved the US army and territorial militias chasing down Black Hawk's band, including women and children, with gatling guns. Indigenous people are people, not caricatures or mascots. There is no 'respectable' way to make people into caricatures.

Lots information here that is very true and very relevant about the logo. It was meant to be respectful, but also, not made by the actual tribe. . One thing we should also consider is the Blackhawk tribe themselves. As a blackhawks fan and friend to a family of Blackhawk Native Americans- I can tell you that a large majority of the tribe loves the name and logo..- From what I’m told anyway. But there are still some who don’t like like it. I am OK with it being changed and I think it will be someday. I completely understand why people find it offensive. But again this should be up to the Blackhawk tribe. It’s okay they don’t include it - but please include CHI in alternate logos.

Like that pfp go cubs and hawks too

Honestly as Americans we should just act like the Canadian teams don’t exist, they don’t want to respect our teams why should we respect there teams. I know this video is old but I used to respect bardown. I’ll bet if it was the Toronto Blackhawks then they would 100% be in the video

@@jarrettjackola6334 no, it would have been changed years ago

I agree, as It was to honour a specific person. The story behind it is actually very cool and worth the time to read into.

The first owner of the hawks served in the Blackhawk division in WW1. This division was named after Chief Blackhawk. His story cannot be covered in a simple KZfaq comment. But to say that the logo was made in disrespect of a minority is not just laughable it’s ignorant.

Who gives a shit about the logo tell them to release the findings of the sexual assault investigation.

@@chi-townmex9346 this video is about the logos and the logos alone. Y’all do anything to hate the Blackhawks just because they dominated the 2010s

@@mzdon9794 Nah, see you're acting like the Blackhawks trying to sweep that shit under the rug so everyone would forget what they did smfh Followed the Blackhawks since 91, and what they did is BS and should be punished. All my Hawks gear is thrown away so I'm not hating on them for nothing. They can shove those 3 championships up their ass cause they're a disgrace and hopefully the NHL makes them sell the team for being quiet.

Same

Yep

@@Coledelurey habs are there smart guy

From Pennsylvania and disappointed I didn’t realize that it’s a P

Totally agree I personally liked the old colors

So offensive 😿😿

Ya too bad the blackhawks will have to change their logo soon

@@conbomb4877 they never will

@con bomb the league said under no circumstances will they change the logo

How is the blackhawk’s logo offensive explain that to me

Honestly if it wasnt for the fact that the hawks logo is iconic, its not really the best looking logo. Its different. Thats ok, but i find the use of colour and general shape of the logo a bit detrimental.

@@baronbayne9899 I see your point. For me its hard to remove the history from the logo. Just browsing each logo quickly my eye fixes on the hawks because of the use and vibrancy of colours. Most other logos except the wild have at most three colours. I showed each logo to my GF (who knows nothing about NHL) and she thought the Coyotes was the best, then Penguins and Sharks. Take that to mean she likes animals but she did not like the Hawks logo.

Disrespectful

They would've shot this days or weeks before they posted it guys. Get a grip.

@@KS-xk2so they also could have held off on dropping the video when the news came out

@@aaronmoyer4722 You realize that thousands of people have played for or worked for that teams over the decades right? Probably every day someone dies that had a connection to the team.... why is Tony special?

@@KS-xk2so tony is one of the greatest goaltenders of all time. They should have included the hawks logo in the first place but to leave it out due to our stupid work culture is disrespectful. Wouldn’t expect a libtard like you to understand though

Soon realized it was omitted 😮

Same with the habs

@@Ippy22 no?

@@Ippy22 bro are you joking

They all kept calling the animal a bear too, it’s not meant to be any animal in particular but a representation of many animals in the state. That’s another reason why I think it’s so unique.

@@SyrupCraft6 it is a bear lol

@@SyrupCraft6 No, it's a bear.

C at best I go D also

@@AscendedXSaiyan nah it’s the best

@@AscendedXSaiyan Julia’s opinion isn’t reliable. They excluded the Blackhawks so none of their opinions matter at all. They are too weird for me to listen to them.

I’m not a hawks fan but is the best logo

Chicago have the best logo and the best jersey. I'm a rangers fan.

I hate Chicago sports for personal reasons, but the Blackhawks logo is the best sports logo in Chicago. Though I would put it in a C

winged wheel is on there its at the top

Yeah where is Chicago?

But the Red Wings are already on there?

Thrashers ?

want a tissue bud?

100% agree

I’m a flyers fan and I like the pens jerseys

Because they're probably afraid of some crazy people reeeing about the Logo being Racist when it's one of the most repectful and amazing logos in Sports with any sort of Native American imagery. Not to mention afaik it's an actual Depiction of Cheif Blackhawk even if it's a bit cartoony. It just annoys me because you see the other tierlists and they never show the logo in any of them... It's a damn travesty.

@@jeremeymcdude Absolute cowards lmao

@@mrplow2843facts

@Jace Campbell its not racist

@Jace Campbell look up why that’s their name and if you have the capacity to think freely you’ll realize it’s not racist at all

How is it any worse than the Bruins one?

Ya it has a positive history to it, nothing bad about it

It’s Not Like Chief Wahoo In Cleveland Or The Tomahawk Chop In Atlanta

@Adventures With Mongos maybe its time to let the past be the past and let a sports team be a sports team. People focus their fake virtue signaling rage on such ridiculous things I stg.

@Adventures With Mongos Everything Is Fucked Up In a Way The Flames are Named After a Fire That Destroyed Atlanta and The Avalanche and Hurricanes are both named after Natural Disasters That Kill Thousands of People Every Year

@Adventures With Mongos I’m Not Even American M8 I’m Not Looking Up All The Fucked Up Shit That Your Countries Done,Canada’s Done it’s Fair Share Of Messed Up Things But America Is The King Of Fucked Up Shit

The use of negative space in the logo to create the 'H' was ingenious.

Yes so cool

Yasssssss

Forget sports. It’s the greatest logo from any brand ever.

Nope no where near

@Lucas Booth I hate this stupid theme on how they change logo because Americans claim it’s insulting to aboriginal people and they’re offended even though 90% of aboriginal people don’t care

The Blackhawks were named after a person not Indians like other sports teams. That’s why they won’t change it. Their logo is the Best one around!!!

@@tumblweed80 fax

@Lucas Booth its much more controversial leaving it out. every top comment is absolutely bashing them for leaving it out, if they left it in there would be 0 comments bashing them

Your mommy called, time for bed

Seriously. Disappointing. They're called the Blackhawks because it's badass and an honor to the courage and tenacity of the Blackhawk people. To not include it because it is "offensive" to privileged white people is disgustingly racist.

Such a terrible omission. I wouldn't care if you panned the logo, but at least you should have mentioned it.

@@BoonmoneR shut up

@@Tacoswithlime Dude, how is what YOU are saying not being racist or derogatory towards white people? Can you not see the irony in your statement? You are making an assumption that it’s only white people that are offended. On top of that, automatically calling white people privileged if they don’t agree with you is prejudiced as well. Most white people are not offended by the logo or the name. I’ve seen more Native Americans getting upset and offended than white people. Look at the Redskins. They are caving in just to be politically correct and wanting to change the name because it’s the Native Americans who are the offended ones and bitching about it. NOT white people. So don’t be offensive yourself by being derogatory towards white people and calling them privileged because we are not offended by the logo or name. Yes, it IS derogatory to call white people Karen or privileged. It’s not any different then saying derogatory things to a black person, Hispanic person or Asian person. I’m so sick of people calling white people racists or bigots and then turn around themselves and do it themselves or think that ONLY white people are racists. Btw, when you look at the history of people getting offended it’s the MINORITIES who get offended the easiest, yell racists the loudest and see color and race the most. THEY are the ones who want to be seen by their color. THEY want to use their race as a fucking crutch to get their way instead of actually working hard. THEY want the special treatment. Enough is enough with this kind of thinking. This is why we will never get past racism because jackasses like yourself have to bring race into this or make stupid comments like this. Are there some white people who are offended over everything? Absolutely. Does that automatically make them privileged? Fuck no. It only means they have nothing better to do than be offended just for the sake of being offended. If anyone here makes a comment calling me a Karen or saying that I’m offended from Josh’s comment by me writing this comment YOU just proved my point about the hypocrisy.

Probably because it is considered politically incorrect by these woke bozos.

@@johnbrowne3950 no its probably because nobody wants to touch that team with a 40 foot pole rn, they are in DEEP shit rn

gosh the way you worded this comment is golden lmfao

nice one there

Nope. Just Detroit

🙋‍♂️

@@Simon-tc1mc nah they’re both legendary

🕺

I agree on devils their logo is great flames is just ok something about the flames just dont look right kinda basic

Agreed, the Blues logo is just as iconic as the Wings and Bruins to me, it's never changed either

Everyone knows but the orange stripe is long island

So inconsequential its barely worth mentioning

They don't know dogshit about hockey logos...

Actually two

Cringe really

@@ethanmurphy3563 just 1

@@MrTedMcForehead thye forgot chicago and montreal

Now how do you explain the maple leaf being blue?

@@astrobot3038 The Leafs were wearing white sweaters with a green maple leaf for their first game on February 17, 1927. On September 27, 1927, it was announced that the Leafs had changed their colour scheme to blue and white, which they have worn ever since. While the Leafs say that blue represents the Canadian skies and white represents snow, it is also true that top-level Toronto teams have worn blue since the Toronto Argonauts adopted blue as their primary colour in 1873. Another theory is that Smythe changed the colours as a nod to his high school alma mater, Upper Canada College, whose teams have worn blue and white since 1829 and the University of Toronto whose teams have also worn blue and were called the Varsity Blues.

@@NerfKnuckles So what you’re saying is that there’s no logical reason for a maple leaf to be blue.

I think it would benefit from omitting text entirely. Other than that it’s decent.

@@astrobot3038 the only reason I can think of is it’s Toronto’s colors. Much like the black and yellow of Pittsburg. But the Raptors kind of break that.

it is so iconic too

Chicago is top 10, easily

Their logo is racist and it's a clown franchise that's actively being exposed as enabling and covering up sexual assaults lmao. Their best player is a complete scumbag too. The Blackhawks fucking suck. Imagine sticking up for them.

@@FrogmanCometh it’s not racist… it’s honoring someone lmao

@@FrogmanCometh HOW THE FUCK IS THE LOGO RACIST OMG??? IT'S HONURING THE CHIEF BLACKHAWK

I love the colours man!!! So nice! It should not have been snubbed and should have no controversy around it as it is literally not offensive in any way, it’s honourable

hey its top 2 according to everyone I know, its up there with Detroit, dont worry, everyone knows it is, they have just been told by higher ups thats its too contreversial to talk about it for now.

Still love your controversial team? Yikes..