when he asks ur tav how was their first night together and u can say "it was fine" he just basically says "what if i kill myself"

@@verkyuactually he says “have you considered I was being careful of the bomb in my chest bestie”

Baldur's Gate III's equivalant of "WITH THIS TREASURE I SUMMON"

And that mystra finally just couldn't anymore... The combo of undeniably intoxicating talent and drama queen can exhaust. But they first do catch that interest. Spoiler: . . . . . That's totally the tone I took from their meeting via Rivington. Gale, *potentially exasperated* did you learn nothing and hear nothing I just said? It's about more than you and you don't speak for the humanoids of Abir-Toril

@@chipsalom sorry that mystra isn’t happy with than man the child she groomed grew up to be

Worse, she told her friend to text him. We only see Elminter bot

Man, if she's supposed to be a good deity, then I can only guess that the gods are so odd with relationships compared to humans. She sent a follower of hers to explain her breaking up with Gale, but that must be normal in a deity's eyes to do so? To us, it's cruel and cold, but it's probably normal to them because gods are distant in general with their followers. Fuck, dating a god would be hard as hell. It's like a long distance, low contact, highly committed relationship.

@@shadowdroid776 Maybe there aren't "good" deities, just like there aren't "good" races.

@@shadowdroid776 look up Eilistraee. She's the real good deity, who is ironically a patron of drow.

you know she'd have an excuse ready like 'I didn't think it'd be good for HIM to see me' too

So, a wine aunt, basically

tbh astarion exudes peak wine aunt energy

the wine has blood mixed into it

​@@irinakermong1217hes the wine uncle

@@itscznben8728 the wine is just blood because otherwise he would just projectile vomit it out or something

Thats was epic

Exactly! I think we don’t talk enough about it. Most people are just horny for him but when I heard this story I was flabbergasted and… devastated.

Wish he had some interactions with Astarion about sex slavery because yeah. I think I'd like Halsin better if he was better written. Any depth is thrown in randomly like an afterthought with no growth or closure.

Holy fuck, that's some dialogue I missed

​@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4545same, this is the first I have heard of this, I am shocked. Literally jaw agape. It also makes me a little mad that this backstory wasn't told that often. Why throw in some depth and trauma to a character just for one or two lines? Makes more sense as to why he struggles with boundaries.

She would make a very funny person in Germany too

@@domesticcat1725no no that’s Minthara

Laezel is hilarious people just don't get her deadpan humour 😂

“Among githyanki I am considered exceptionally humorous.” 😂 that line is canon and nobody’s convincing me otherwise

​@@ortheum-networks401 Minthara's got that dry brit humour

That was so cute when it happened 😭

I feel that Shadowheart is more adorkable in the most endearing way possible, but isn’t really a comedian. She is also my favorite companion, but she can’t be perfect

Shart is hilarious, actually.

​@@PaulRGauthierYou donkey!

She also suggested we put a bell on Astarion to keep him from sneaking up on anyone in camp to bite them lmao

can’t you also see your party members’ heights from the character sheet menu?

@@Mesruksi not sure! I’ll have to check next time I load up the game.

A Gith Tav actually says he is 5'11

@@prodtetch ooh, good to know! guess I had misremembered, thank u!

@@Mesruksi I had no idea the character sheet listed height! I will have to investigate the next time I play.

that and when she trolls you with the night flower, I cackled so much because it was really unexpected. She‘s so precious!

I mostly hear her trying to make fun about Lae'zel in the most unfunny ways and therefore concluded she has terrible humour. That joke is pretty funny though!

I’m really confused by the mind flayer ending. Is it actually still you? I thought that with this ending, you are essentially choosing to sacrifice the MC by allowing the tadpole to eat your brain and fully develop. So it’s just a mind flayer with your memories.

Wyll hiding Tentacle Tav away while he fixes the world because he thinks you'll scare everyone but he still wants you is literally heartbreaking - he's this hopeless romantic but then Madwoman in the Attic's you rather than let you go or trust that the people would get used to the mindflayer that SAVED THE WORLD ...

@grymmoire5912 well, you're still you, but will live as a mind flayer from that point on, which will likely change the way you live from that point on and how you see the world, but it's still you.

@@artorhen why are you different than other mind flayers then? Do they explain that?

@@HekatieSquires They won't. And most likely, you'll rapidly change too. Your soul is gone, per Withers, and you do in fact now have to live by eating the brains of a sapient humanoid at least once every couple of weeks. According to the narrator, your old self already seems to be fading away. Maybe you'll become like the Emperor- but he's nowhere close to the hero he was, either.

she even killed 4 kids that she told me about atleast

@@chrisrubin6445 Does it count if she's also a kid?

​@@Atomsk0192 I would think so. Unless maybe you can explain why it shouldn't?

By Githyanki standards she's an A+ babysitter, arguably even S-tier. Not that any githyanki would admit that.

I disagree. She never would help children bury their fallen comrades. They can do that shit themselves, why should she help at all?

Listen u romance her and steal the egg she ends up raising it and calling him freedom❤️ wanting him to be whatever he wants

@@nikolastiscareno4963 OH MY GOSH I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER STEAL THAT EGG BUT NOW I NEED TO.

...and on her first real mission she gets infected by a mind flayer tadpole, which is just about the worst fate that a githyanki could imagine, way worse than death. No wonder she's so unpleasant in the beginning, she just had the worst day of her life...

She have a loot of info about war, fight and mind squids, but in the rest she pretty much a teen or less

Is that physical age or time alive, cause you can’t physically age between planes

​@@saratoga6663githyanki form crèches on the material planes for their offspring to grow up in, where Lae'zel recently came from it seems, so technically both?

Where is the official source for ages? I have never found one just peoples speculation and articles that didn't have sources either. I know some mention their age when key events happen like Wyll but I never heard Laezel say anything. And time is weird in the Astral plane so who knows how long she's been around?

100% accurate. Minsc no doubt tried it while Boo was taking a nap and couldn't tell him not to do it.

It’ll never be enough

He would undoubtedly agree, darling.

300 hours is not nearly enough, can confirm

This video is 55 minutes long but I scrolled to this comment precisely as this line was said and it freaked me out a bit.

About 65 so far haha

DAMMON WIN

And Shadowheart! There's a Shadowheart playlist. Dev Wilde seems to be making an attempt to do one for Lae'zel but has also run into the "Lae'zel wouldn't listen to music" hurdle 😂

thank you for this vital information

@@AceCookie I think it's more likely that Ms. Wilde is running into the problem that the music that Lae'zel would listen to can't be found on Spotify. Because the Githyanki are a _very_ musical people.

@@simonmacomber7466 it's entirely possible! I was just basing that comment off a tiktok that she made, wherein she says that Lae'zel probably wouldn't listen to music. That said, i haven't checked if she's posted an update on that recently

To be specific BG2 was 125 years ago, and half elves can live up to about 200 years. I don’t know if we know her age in the originals but she was already an adult and married in BG1 so she’s definitely up there in age.

Also, in her sanctuary you can find a ritual scroll of timeless body (a feature you get as a lv18 druid) that jaheira supposedly used in the pass. that means she is ageing 10 times slower after the ritual was preformed

And why she looks better with age, because female high elves... they look like bad plastic surgery when they are youthful. Shart is lucky she takes after her human side in face structure. Lol

lmao i think he meant like, having a child. not kidnapping one.

For me the funniest Gale moment is when you push him to have foursome with you and the drows. He just immediately fucks off and leaves magical answering machine in his place 😂

I romanced minthara because I like the the fact she is a zelot petty entertaining

In my Astarion origin run, Gale and I found Arabella and her parents right before that conversation, which put an interesting twist on the “you want to have a child with me?” line. Now I’m stuck imagining an ending where they adopted her together and Gale is teaching her about the weave. Arabella Dekarios has a nice ring to it.

I really love the concept of Gale being a dad. He’s literally a DAD but without the child, if that makes sense. A cat dad, sure, but not a child dad. It would be so cute if you could ‘have children’ aka adopt an orphan lol. Like Arabella, or that girl in your camp with the cat (if she doesn’t DIE)

I want to curb stomp Cazador

@@Sofia-ge6wm based, he has such a bitchy voice too

All signs are that his 'Sweet Boy' really did escape Cazador's clutches. Astarion paid a horrifoc price, but damn it, he won and Caz was never able to take that win away from him.

You should just make him your daddy, problem solved

Halsin can plant as many babies as he wants in me fr fr

@@KatyamuffinWHAT

Honestly it's fair. I might be a man but I'd let halsin do that to me too.

Stop. Fucking. The Bear.

Ennemies to friends to therapist

his issues give me someone else who I can actually help with issues because I cannot fix my own xD

Favorite trope 😍

I have a similar relationship with Gale. My first playthrough I thought he was entertaining until he came onto me and I turned him down and he threatened to blow himself up. I was like, “dude wtf I wasn’t even mean about it.” So I left him in camp the entire time until given the opportunity to blow himself up for a bonus ending, then reloaded the save and left him back in camp for the rest of the game 😂 Currently on my second playthrough and started as the Dark Urge, I chopped his hand off for the giggle then reloaded the save and I’m going to try and keep him in the party the whole time this time for the sass TikTok promises he has. I would love to be sassy besties with him, so I’m giving him the chance 😂

yeah this is exactly me i feel like astarion appreciates you as a friend more than anything else. i kept him in my party while hating him just so he could be my door opener but i ended up really liking him near the end but in a completely non sexual way. sexual scenes with him just make me feel a tad icky? can’t help but think he’s probably just shutting off and going auto pilot like in the drow scene everytime

I bet the people he managed to lure just thought he was albino...

I have to imagine that Caz's spawn must all use glamour to hide their vampirism normally, otherwise there's no way people would be following them home to Cazador. My theory that would close this plot hole is that the worms made us imune to his glamour so the signs were far more obvious than to normal people.

gale only really talks about mystra when it's relevant tho... and like if your ex was the literal goddess of your domain, like ya know the thing you devoted your entire life to, yeah, of course she's gonna come up

Tbh i’d date astarion because i too have many issues about physical intimacy and i feel like he’d get me without being upset/disappointed with me (i’m asexual and a people pleaser who has a horrible time saying no)

@@ececelebi9424DUDEEE same, I’m not ace but sexual intimacy isn’t really up my alley, and I think he’d respect that immensely so 10/10 would cuddle

you get it. Wyll is literally the best S/O if the characters actually existed that everyone dreams of having

common misconception. this is who you SHOULD date irl. i'm fucking minthara immediately. also jaheira is frankly out of everyone's league

I have her in my party and Astarion is still wearing that armor. I gave her Ketheric’s.

oh yeah he's fully Like That

dont play the game, it might ruin your life

@@romeech9375 Can confirm, only two playthroughs in and ive already lost 300 hours of my social life

Wait until he tells you he's glad to be had😂

​@@doomdozer1914I'm 400 in and as soon as I get those 2 achievements I have left, I'm calling out for help

Gale holds 3 of my top 5 favorite lines from that game and all three of them are from that one area in the Gauntlet of Shar

I just love her small dances, but also in the camp quite often she looks like she has a very intensr conversation with herself, love that too 😂

Oopsie you misspelled Gale.

odd way to spell Astarion lol@@gregsicle_stick

WOOOOOO

Shame all of you have misspelled Karlach

Also if you gave her a child it would come back to you with longsword proffesional fs

Yeah lol "Other companions talk about their problems and Minthara only talks about being evil", proceeds to put her lower than Minsc that got turned into a statue and mind controlled by the cult and "doesn't seem bothered by it". Ah yes as if Minthara after being freed from mind control doesn't immediately tell you her story of coming to Moonrise and getting tortured and brainwashed by Orin, demonstrates quite tragic self-blame for the abuse she's suffered ("I deserved it"), and in later acts also shares how her mother tried to kill her, how she hates both Absolute and Lolth as they're both controlling evil cults... Talks of how she couldn't have friends or enjoy food due to fear of poison or a dagger in her back... Yes she's nasty but isn't all of that quite tragic?

@@The_Saatik Agreed, Minthara is actually about as tragic as Karlach in a lot of ways and also has a lot of insecurity about herself, but Karlach's a lad and Minthara gives dominatrix vibes, so people just don't bother actually listening to Minthara be an absolute sweetheart sometimes.

Yeah it feels like they have only seen a small part of myntharas story

that actually got fixed with patch 5. You can just knock her out in the goblin camp and she'll be at moonrise. Ofc that kinda skips a lot of interesting things with her, but at least it's possible now.

As for how many hours of my life I have dedicated to these crazy pixel people, well... if we include Jaheira and Minsc, that number is one I can't accurately calculate, because I have played all 3 BG games. I also have not kept track of all the KZfaq videos I have spent time watching because I can't get enough of them all. Steam tells me I have spent an utterly ridiculous number of hours of my life logged into the game while I watch KZfaq videos about who will go shopping with you for the perfect outfit in between actually playing 😂 Considering that Gale will be spending a lot of time actively involved in wedding planning including catering and flower arrangements if you romance him and get him to the end without exploding, I am confident that he will absolutely go dress shopping with you if you ask him to, although he might wonder if it really would be bad luck and have Astarion go dress shopping with you instead so long as you agree. I do think you're wrong about Shadowheart in two regards. 1) She's *hilarious*! 2) She would be the babysitter of the year. If she's still in Act 1 mode, she'd be the babysitter that would make the kids actually stick to their bedtime. If she's in Act 3 glow-up mode, she'd be the kid's favorite because she is willing to read the bedtime story 5 zillion times in silly voices so long as they brush their teeth and put their toys away before bed. Wyll would 100% have BIG baby fever after babysitting. Lae'zel, once she understood the assignment, would dive fully into outfit shopping with clear stipulations about the sharpness and quality of the stiletto heels, the importance of side slits for movement, etc. (see Jill Bearup videos about corsets, etc.) Lae'zel would also make sure you have the perfect updo, complete with hair pins that can double as weapons.

Lae’zel WOULD really like Jill Bearup, wouldn’t she

As someone currently romancing Gale, this feels absolutely true.

I love this analysis

I see your florence fan shart and I raise you to ethel cain fan shart (religious trauma intensifies)

@@eliasapollo4131 I think it's less one is more intense than the other and it's more different flavors of Religious trauma. You got your Evangelical/southern baptist trauma, and your Catholic trauma.

She's also definitely gone hard into Evanescence territory....

Her VA made a shadowheart spotify playlist and did include some florence its so fitting lol

​@aliciaaz2356 No. None of that. Shame on you.

Her karlach and astarion have it rough too 😭

@@nikolastiscareno4963 they are definitely the most *unstable* of them all

She's not forced to kill them. She can refuse, which Shar will repay by giving her a magic wound that she can use to cause her pain any time she wants. I think Dame Aylin says something that alludes to it eventually being removed by Selune, but I don't remember exactly. Either way, I figured she's a good person that was brainwashed into doing evil stuff, so she would sacrifice anything to save her parents, so I persuaded her to do that

her parents literally beg her to kill them so that they can spare her the pain of being tormented by Shar for the rest of her life... even if you spare her parents that's so brutal 😢

@@semopomume I'm about 20 hours in on a Shadowheart origin play through. Her inner dialog is a huge eye-opener about her torment. It's pretty sad, but dating Karlach is helping 😁 I can't wait to experience the Gauntlet of Shar from her perspective.

My Immortal would 100% be her go-to karaoke song

hi my name is shadowheart dark'ness dementia raven way

the song or the fanfic? xD

​@@hooray4paradiddlesoh god, NOOOOOOOOOOOO "I have Shadow black long hair (that's how I got my name) with silver jewelry in it......"

@@avocadothecat both

Probably because the legacy companions were added later so they had less dev time for them on top of everything.

She also (possibly) done the whole whirlwind romance during an adventure as a rebound over her husband being tortured and murdered, did not work out.

Shes still in love with her dead husband and always will be

Bc you could romance her in Baldur's Gate 2 🤷

Romance her in BG2. She's great.

Yeah!

Not the #1 baby sitter on list? Fine. Ranked below LAE'ZEL??? Truly, there is no justice for Bing-Bong.

Yeah, Shadowheart hides it a lot but she's got a soft spot for children and animals it's pretty clear. A little time after she allows the stern Sharran front to fall and she'll be baby talking them I swear

@@arcade7273 You don't even have to wait for her to drop the front if things went down favorably in act 2 with the shadowfell

I like it when she calls you a donkey

@@Strix182 Her banter with Astarion, when she wish your party had mules or horses, Astarion says horses bite and she just says, "So do you, but we still keep you around." Really think Vicious Mockery and Cutting Words (Lore Bard feature) are very much suited for Shadowheart.

Exactly, She made me think that her name is shadowheart because she's always throw shade at evryone. lol

I think she’s funny unless she’s TRYING to be.

if you force her on stage at the circus by saying "my friend shadowheart would be a way better assistant :)" she will say "are you sure you have a FRIEND called shadowheart and not an enemy?" and afterwards she'll say you better get someone to start tasting your food

Considering drows treatment of male drow, if she babysit your son he'd come back SOBBING

Boo would play a Monk

@@AriallaMacAllister yes

Definitely more tragic in my eyes compared to minsc jaheria and halsin who either move past their trauma or are busy doing other things

On top of all that, she doesn't have a home to go back to after everything is over. Turning your back on Lolth and worshipping another god is seen as criminal in Menzoberranzan, and it'd probably be worse for her since she's a part of an extremely well known house.

@@xsanriodollx9073 100 percent tragic story for her I feel like halsin is tragic but he has things to back on! The grove, accomplishing his goal in restoring the forest, and then he is a pretty merry guy not battling with anything that was a big figure in his life like everyone else(Karlach is a bit different because she’s stuck with avernus unless turned and then she’s not like fighting some sort of figure like shadow, astarion, lazel, gale, and even wyll with mizora for at least months if you get his contract terminated)

Not to mention how her mom tried to kill her

TIL Minthara was intimate with Orin 😮

isn’t it pan tho ? theres a non binary option in character creation. obviously theyre all just player-sexual but u get it lol

​@@moonlit_sky127you can be bi and like non binary people

@@Soloee_ yea but bi means two. there are 3 options in game.

@@moonlit_sky127 the word bi means 2, but when it comes to bisexuality it's 2+. You just have to be attracted to more than 1 gender

@@Soloee_ in this case the characters ARE pan though. “playersexual” is pretty much how it goes in games like this. closest actual sexuality to that is pan.

Only if you're not used to their presence in your mouth. Most things give you a lisp if you put them over your teeth. Once you get used to talking with them, though, you can start to do away with the lisp.

​@@FrostyTheSnowPicklecan confirm. I have permanent titanium retainers on the backside of my incisors and the first week after getting them I had a lisp. I had to get new ones after like 10 years and had to go without retainers for 3 days and during those 3 days I had a lisp again because I was so accustomed to the retainers at that point.

This is so real, like how if Scratch dies and he throws the ball he starts crying and is like "MAN I HATE THAT STUPID DEAD DOG T.T"

You can judge a person pretty well by how they break up with you. Ever been broken up with by ASStarion?

@@themudpit621ascended astarion* and if it’s not ascended it’s him putting on a face

@themudpit621 why do y'all always judge these characters based on when you do something awful to them?

It actually is canon that there once was a kid he tried to save from Cazador and was punished by being buried alive in a stone coffin and starved for a whole year, and in the game he is approving of you being kind towards kids so I think that is a fair assumption to have. He's a lot about acting like a jerk but not necessarily reflecting his real feelings

He is SO FUNNY!

Minthara is literally female Astarion in terms of levels of tragic character that had to be evil to survive.

So truuue. Also Gale being more tragic than Shadowheart a girl who were kidnapped by an evil cult and groomed and brainwashed into torturing her own parents. This video has so much problems.

yeah the uneven power dynamic in power and in age is so icky

Fun fact, that's actually not true. Gale's in his like 40s and the game takes place in 1492 DR , the current Mystra (a human woman who was raised to divinity following the the Time of Troubles in 1358 DR) was actually killed by a different god in 1385 DR and remained dead all the way until 1479 DR and she did not return to her full power until 1487 DR. So, If Gale is like mid 40s by 1492 DR that means that he would have been born late 1440s DR, which means he was probably a full adult by the time Mystra actually came back to life. So I don't think Mysta (again this is the third iteration of the goddess of Magic, she's only been a goddess for like 40 years at this point not counting the time she was dead) did manipulate gale from the moment he started learning magic. It is still a fairly uneven power dynamic since she is literally the most powerful deity in the forgotten realms, but grooming? Bit of a stretch.

@@ianmccready4960 grooming can be something other than age, it's a power imbalance, like with a boss and employee. i think a wizard and the goddess of magic is like an extreme version of that. so even if they're roughly the same age, icky

@@hades_head_empty It is icky, yes, I don't disagree with that, but people do seem to be making up reasons to hate on Mystra that just aren't supported by the lore. This Mystra is not the same as the previous Mystra (the one who fucked Elminster) and people just often forget that. The current Mystra is a relatively new goddess so it's weird to criticize her on the basis that there was another goddess of magic before her that just had the same name.

@@ianmccready4960she still groomed him idgaf

Or mother

Still approves of you robbing a child

Especially after her act 3 arc as a Selûnite

RIP Bing Bong

I’d agree with you on this. Selunite Shadowheart is sweet and gentle with animals (I believe that she was a fan of them even when indoctrinated). I feel that she will bring that same energy to kids

@@arjunkishore4080 If you treat animals nicely "Shadowheart Approves" even as a brainwashed Shar Worshiper so she definitely was that way before act 3. think you also get some if you treat kids well too.

​@@RDehuvyneHonestly with how good she is with kids and animals, especially in her epilogue, she'd probably the best wife out of all the female companions. Not to mention she's all too happy to adopt the owlbear with Tav/Redemption Durge

That was a funny line from Wyll, I'll admit. Man said it at a THIEFLING PARTY 💀

And you give her a home, which she wouldn't have had without you

Just turn her into a sheep

@@Pikaton659 GOD that solution is why I love this fandom sooooo much

Oh, but I will.

You can also just knock her out

It’s okay we’re just built different (or cheat lmao)

The fact that her objection to “they should eat the refugees” is “no, because children make for an efficient workforce, but they can totally eat the weak and elderly” tells you *everything* about her character.

You don't need to roll for shadowhearts big moment of choosing to betray Shar or kill the selunite if you choose the correct diaglogur options + have enough of a bond.

they are also all morally grey and dont have problems with somewhat evil actions, so it works well trying to lead them to good.

You gotta respec her pretty much immediately so her stats aren't so scatterbrained

Without respeccing a lot of her more basic moves and cantrips have a % to hit, but even if she gets that the target ‘rolls a dice’ for a saving throw, so she’s gotta succeed two dice rolls with fairly high targets. Never goes well. (Best example of this is sacred flame. Respec her as soon as possible when you play)

oh my god this is gonna make me cry

as an obsessive mitski fan and gale defender, this comment changed my life

Nah, I think Astarion's true fullest arc is staying Spawn, freeong his fellow spawn, giving a moving speach to the Gur about how the free spawn deserve the same chance he had, and going on to become their leader working dilligently to preserve lives in the epilogue. So much healing and growth. Ascendant is all machismo but actually still very sad and twisted on the inside. I still love him as Ascendant, but it is not a true good end at all.

It's simple really. Lae'zel's one set of dice that she's dedicated to love her. Shadowheart has a giant collection because she buys a new set every time she puts the ones that betrayed her in dice jail.