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Ranking Every Electronic Arts Sega Genesis Published Game

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John Hancock

John Hancock

Күн бұрын

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@tonybarnes2920
@tonybarnes2920 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is quite the trip down memory lane for me. During my tenure at EA, I worked on; Crue Ball, General Chaos, BOB, Bill Walsh College Football, Madden 94, NHL 94, Desert Strike, Jungle Strike, Urban Strike, Super Strike Trilogy, Mutant League Football, and ... ahem ... Normys. LOL. Good times.
@teen_laqueefa
@teen_laqueefa Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fun
@adm712
@adm712 Жыл бұрын
Some of those 90's EA sports titles on the Genesis (NHL. Madden, NBA) have to be considered as some of the best games in overall gaming history.
@MaxAbramson3
@MaxAbramson3 Жыл бұрын
NHL 94 for the Sega CD was the best sports game ever. If other sports games had been that good, that's what I'd have been playing.
@amsterdamG2G
@amsterdamG2G Жыл бұрын
Fifa international soccer was groundbreaking as well
@EricSega-pe8fl
@EricSega-pe8fl Жыл бұрын
Well said. You're absolutely right.
@MrChrisHonoway
@MrChrisHonoway Жыл бұрын
the late Sega ports are superior to the early ps1 ports. Saturn and Ps1 weren't ready and the games are terrible for sports
@albertabramson3157
@albertabramson3157 Жыл бұрын
@@MrChrisHonoway I would venture even a step further: That the Saturn was, overall, a more powerful system and painted a prettier picture than the PS1. Many Saturn games ran at full speed even at 640x480, while most PS1 games used 256x224, had janky graphics, lacked any anti-aliasing (software or otherwise), used Doom-like affine texturing, and had to prebake shadows and highlights for most games. Worse is that all three systems were well blown away by high end gaming PCs and, by the late 1990s, budget consoles with MMX and budget graphics cards. On CPU's, performance doubles every 18 months. On GPUs, it was every 6-7 months. All three companies should've made the 3D graphics card an addon so that they could stay ahead of the curve, just like the PC.
@redfanrod
@redfanrod Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I purchased a Genesis console for one game - Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA Playoffs. It was the FIRST console game with actual NBA player names and likenesses (except that Kevin Duckworth is too skinny, lol. RIP). Yes, Lakers vs. Celtics showed its age quite quickly but try finding an NBA cart with real players in 1991! It was a ground breaking cart. Cheers.
@zusk8556
@zusk8556 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm not much of a sports guy, but out of all the basketball games on the Genesis, Lakers vs. Celtics is the one that always pulls me back in. Definitely in my top 40.
@MrWoodCy
@MrWoodCy Жыл бұрын
Damn come to think about it….3 of the top 6 players from those Blazer teams have passed on. RIP Cliff, Jerome, and Duck.
@redfanrod
@redfanrod Жыл бұрын
@@MrWoodCy Sadly, it's actually four players. Add rookie Drazen Petrovic to the mix. RIP
@MrWoodCy
@MrWoodCy Жыл бұрын
@@redfanrod Well thats right… Sad to reflect on…That team brought us a lot of joy and excitement too
@chrishensley5384
@chrishensley5384 Жыл бұрын
Definitely going to need some popcorn for this. Thanks John!
@ricey23
@ricey23 Жыл бұрын
James Pond 2 Codename Robocod has a beat that has lived rent free in my mind for 30 years.
@yogibear2k220
@yogibear2k220 Жыл бұрын
It was my favourite game on the Amiga.
@jordanbenson2980
@jordanbenson2980 Жыл бұрын
We all appreciate the time and effort that went into this man. Thank you. Saving for later. Love these rankings. 🤜
@The90sGamingGuy
@The90sGamingGuy Жыл бұрын
Road Rash 1, 2, Urban Strike, Jungle Strikeare excellent games on the Genesis. Great video John.
@IDL716
@IDL716 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@Nobunaga1983
@Nobunaga1983 Жыл бұрын
Ea and Sega were soooo good together in the 90s ❤
@bradnimbus4836
@bradnimbus4836 Жыл бұрын
I really like the longer format, Mr. Hancock! Goes great with a strong coffee
@johnhancockretro
@johnhancockretro Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jdiluigi
@jdiluigi Жыл бұрын
For EA on Genesis. General Chaos(2 player vs and coop) has the most hours played. If you select commandos you only get 2 soldiers but have full control instead of 5 men controlled with a cursor. Its one of the few games I still own a physical copy of for the system.
@digaorcr
@digaorcr Жыл бұрын
your ranking videos are the best. We need a sega cd and a 32x ranking
@mjdf122
@mjdf122 Жыл бұрын
I’ve Been Down With Sega And Electronic Arts Since Lakers VS Celtics Thank You For All This Nostalgia
@johnhancockretro
@johnhancockretro Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome.
@mjdf122
@mjdf122 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhancockretro appreciate you enjoy your day
@angryretrogamer7313
@angryretrogamer7313 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this series of ranking videos. Putting them all together into one video is brilliant. Sega Genesis is my favorite console and the EA games are some of the best for the system. John Madden football has a special place in my gaming history. My older brother use to invite friends over for Madden tournaments and me being 10 years younger, i was fascinated by the genesis. The madden games are not my favorite but they are up there in my rankings. Getting that ambulance to come out and run over the players is something i will never forget from the Madden games. Thanks John this video is so much fun to watch.
@MahmoudYahyaoui
@MahmoudYahyaoui Жыл бұрын
Great Review as always , I miss these videos , keep it up
@wfhstudio
@wfhstudio Жыл бұрын
i had Tony La Russa baseball growing up. definitely hard to hit in that game i remember cause of that animation. Had stat cards for each team which was kinda kool especially since i collected baseball cards at the time and the main era i remember names from.
@johnhancockretro
@johnhancockretro 6 ай бұрын
Which brand cards did you collect? For me it was Fleer, Topps, and Upper Deck later on.
@wfhstudio
@wfhstudio 6 ай бұрын
@@johnhancockretroBack in the 80s for me it was Donruss and Topps mainly then once Upper Deck came out in 1989. My favorite set has to be the 84 Donruss, beautiful cards. Man i miss the 80s, back when you got 15 cards in a pack and the feeling you got when you pulled a Jose Conseco Rookie from a pack of 86 Donruss. That was the big one for me. Funny thing was i didnt watch alot of baseball, just loved collecting them.
@TadashiNazuka
@TadashiNazuka 6 ай бұрын
As a kid in the 80s-90s who was a huge sports fan, i still remember seeing the game boxes of ea sports back then and dreaming of all the possibilities. I only owned a small amount of games back then, but some of my greatest memories exist because of them. Of course now, 30 years later, i own them all, and have dedicated a section of my game room to retro sports games. Great series.
@ricey23
@ricey23 Жыл бұрын
My old man wasn't much of a gamer - genuinely he'd just let my brothers and once I knew what I was doing me alone to game, but one of my earliest memories is sat on his lap watching him decimate Desert Strike
@IRONFOOT77
@IRONFOOT77 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. It reminded me of a better EA. They had a good variety of games back then. I think their best games were the blend of arcade and simulation. I would love to see a compilation of some these early games. They would be fun to revisit. This video was a real treat. Thanks for sharing.
@TheEddieJ1984
@TheEddieJ1984 Жыл бұрын
Always like your ranking videos, hope you do Sega & Sega Sports games soon!
@lukedukey
@lukedukey 7 ай бұрын
for a 2nd comment, the basketball games blew us away as well (Lakers vs Celtics and Bulls vs Lakers). We could not get over how much the players resembled their real life counterparts. We were absolutely hooked
@markjones5647
@markjones5647 Жыл бұрын
The good old mega drive still got one Mr Hancock so much memories best wishes to u and your family Mark in the UK
@JLAvey
@JLAvey Жыл бұрын
The Immortal will grind you into dust and laugh while it's doing so. Starflight can be tough.. unless you happen to generate a map where the nearest planet is mineral rich. I have both of those, in their boxes with their manuals and Starflight has quite the book in with it.
@birthcontrolraccoon9785
@birthcontrolraccoon9785 10 ай бұрын
Same with Buck Rogers and Might & Magic. Those games were converted from DOS and needed big manuals.
@TumoFiji
@TumoFiji Жыл бұрын
ROFL - loved your commentary on Sword of Sodan
@EricSega-pe8fl
@EricSega-pe8fl Жыл бұрын
Great Video. Made my day. Thanks for this great work.
@schtive81
@schtive81 Жыл бұрын
When I think of third party publishers for the Genesis, EA is really one of the first to come to mind. In the earliest years of the Genesis and mega Drive between 1988 and 1991, the system didn;t have many third party publishers. EA was one of the earliest ones to jump onboard. back then; Nintendo had some pretty air tight contracts that prevented third parties from releasing games on competitors consoles. It's the reason why the SMS didn't have a lot of third party games. EA never published for the NES and went for the Genesis instead. So they were exclusive to the Genesis/ MD in 1990 and 1991. But I think Nintendo had to loosen their contracts with the SNES to allow for multi-platform games. EA really became one of the dominant publishers on the Genesis/ MD. They did a lot of their own things, manufactured thri own cartridges, up to the final years. they used mostly their own dev kits and audio drivers. So their early games do have a distinct look and sound to them. They had a good batting average of releasing solid software with few stinkers. I can't deny that NHL 94 is one of the best 16bit Hockey games around. I also have to mention the SNES version. But for me NHLPA 93 is my personal favorite in the series. But I am also partial to NHL 96. Though 97 and 98 really aren't that different from 96 as far as 16bit hockey games go.
@jarrelledson5301
@jarrelledson5301 Жыл бұрын
This was a great list of all the classic EA games for Genesis! Especially with the time and effort you put into it. Now your greates list challenge yet is a list to rank every Nuvision game for Sega Genesis :P
@johnhancockretro
@johnhancockretro Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@DawezyDRK
@DawezyDRK Жыл бұрын
Back when EA was a publisher to be respected, ah the good'ol days. 🙂 Good vid, keep up the good work 👍
@johnhancockretro
@johnhancockretro Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@barryt6377
@barryt6377 Жыл бұрын
John as a kid i really enjoyed JordanvsBird. Loved the real life rivalry, and getting to be Larry hitting 3's was fun. Your take is F and thats fair, but was wondering if this is your grade when you were younger. Well done !
@BitScout
@BitScout Жыл бұрын
This is a great series, love these videos! I wonder if there’s even enough to make a video but, how about doing a video of all the games you can use with the Sega Genesis mouse?
@AdamWilliams-kz4pf
@AdamWilliams-kz4pf Жыл бұрын
Kings Bounty got a well deserved S. Incredible game
@CosmicCosmo1
@CosmicCosmo1 11 ай бұрын
The goat of the genesis by miles
@C3phoe
@C3phoe 4 ай бұрын
I finally found the person that loves all those sports games in the bargin bin! 😅
@treyslay753
@treyslay753 Жыл бұрын
Great series of videos covering a lot of EA games. It's funny how each year they had less and less non-sports titles. I can understand it, because sports games were their bread & butter. It's still kinda sad for all the non-sports gamers out there.
@ZakkHung
@ZakkHung Жыл бұрын
I would KILL for a Budokan and Lakers vs Celtics box it that great of condition! Extremely impressive collection. Subbed!
@GeeksByTheCreek
@GeeksByTheCreek Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it was just a Midwest thing or a Wisconsin thing, but I liked Skitchin because it was an actual thing that we did. Not in the way it was portrayed in the game so much, but we'd grab bumpers and duck down so they couldn't see you, often on skateboards or in boots or shoes on snow covered residential streets. Didn't ever go the rollerblades route.
@LongBeachPickers
@LongBeachPickers Жыл бұрын
Mr Hancock I said it once I’ll say it again you helped me though the pandemic man. I love all these videos when I was home with nothing to do I spent hours watching these videos
@dwightdixon8508
@dwightdixon8508 Жыл бұрын
Something i always noticed about EA Genesis games is the the sound effects from game to game were very similar in tone. I always knew an EA games was being played just by the sound effects.
@VintageGamerLtd
@VintageGamerLtd Жыл бұрын
I had Block Out on the Apple IIgs… very fun and a challenge
@Perminator1976
@Perminator1976 Жыл бұрын
I still play PGA European Tour Golf on my Sega Nomad. Just great fun all around!
@TheRetroScene
@TheRetroScene Жыл бұрын
Loved the nhl games 😊
@elel.
@elel. Жыл бұрын
NBA live 97 is my favourite sport game until today. You can create a player and it has a lock on feature to control only him. NBA live 98 is more or less the same, but i prefer 97 because is simpler and more accessible, but with all stats of a good sim basketball game and the animation rocks.
@TadashiNazuka
@TadashiNazuka 6 ай бұрын
What a Great Video. Much Appreciated Content.
@stevedoyle4874
@stevedoyle4874 Жыл бұрын
Just getting into retro games, did play as a kid. Enjoying the videos,cheers bro. Got me some popcorn. Stevo. 🤘 3:09 collecting, I mean. 😂👌
@pierregareau6590
@pierregareau6590 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting ranking John, Sega Genesis is one of my favorite console, my favorite sega gensis game is NHL 94 from EA !
@lukedukey
@lukedukey 7 ай бұрын
Playing Road Rash and the Immortal with friends. I took my Gensis to a friends house and we played those two the most... We were blown away by the graphics of them both...Finishing Lvl 5 races were next to impossible without destroying your bike before the end LOL. Beating the Immortal was quite the feat!
@robbaxter60
@robbaxter60 Жыл бұрын
Couple months late here but Starflight was one of the first games i became obsessed with back in High School.
@Nobunaga1983
@Nobunaga1983 Жыл бұрын
93’ was definitely ea best year for Sega by far
@CosmicCosmo1
@CosmicCosmo1 11 ай бұрын
Finally Kings Bounty getting its dues for being one of the best genesis games ever made. Subbed for your godlike take on a slept on gem.
@CherniavskyDen
@CherniavskyDen Жыл бұрын
For me - Strike series is the my all-time favorites Genesis (or Sega as we call it here in Russia back then) games. Best of them for me is Jungle strike. And it's the only games on a Sega that I did complete back then. Second to them I'd put Road Rash, but 'd prefer 3DO version. Also I did try F-22 Raptor but it was too complicated, we manage to lift off after about a month of randomly pressing buttons 😂
@matthewnikitas8905
@matthewnikitas8905 Жыл бұрын
So I guess back then they used to publish more than just sports games huh 😂
@zusk8556
@zusk8556 Жыл бұрын
F-117 Night Storm was so awesome. I got it for Christmas when it first came out. Loved doing quick night run missions just before bed. The title music is amazing as well. You definitely get used to the controls and the slow speed over time. One of the best flight sims of the era imo.
@Lbf5677
@Lbf5677 Жыл бұрын
I'd put spaceflight,buck Rogers and populous at the top
@OriginalMasters
@OriginalMasters Жыл бұрын
A lot of work over the course of this series! Road Rash, Haunting, and Sword of Sodan are our favorites! Yes, just kidding about Sword of Sodan!
@gdparry2727
@gdparry2727 Жыл бұрын
Remember when I got my Megadrive, it had a Madden/EA Hockey combo cart. The hockey was great but it was International teams only while the other NHLs are club based.
@larrym5120
@larrym5120 Жыл бұрын
Hey there, John. I love your Sega videos. You sent me a few messages to contact you. I couldn't due to doctor appointments. I've been a gamer since the Atari 2600 days and actually before that at bowling alleys, pinball included. I had the 2600 then coleco vision, c64 and so forth. I was always envious of my buddy that had the intelevision. Arcades were amazing when there was a pause in the console industry. I used all of my paper route money up to go play. I think every gaming console holds a special place in my heart. I can't put one over another good or bad. I see you wear eagles gear are you from that area? , I live in south jersey just over the bridge.
@TerriblyAwesomeGames
@TerriblyAwesomeGames Жыл бұрын
I love the music in Road Rash 2. I’m the weird kid as usual. 😢
@lukedukey
@lukedukey 7 ай бұрын
Dang it! I need to watch the whole video before commenting HAHAA. DESERT STRIKE!!! unbelievable game (and Jungle strike). Are there anything games like that now? I've always been surprised there isn't a remake of those.
@joeboozes
@joeboozes Жыл бұрын
I just hope some of these classic EA games come to evercade exp as well it would be awesome playing them on handheld ❤❤❤
@JP47471
@JP47471 Жыл бұрын
my gosh, EA made a ton of Genesis games
@j.goggels9115
@j.goggels9115 Жыл бұрын
FIFA is the biggest most profitable franchise in the world today, correct me if I'm wrong and the very very first installment of FIFA International Soccer on the Sega Mega Drive was something very special indeed. It did everything right, from the interface, the special moves, the sound, the gameplay. In hindsight, I wish it was faster and not so brutal with the real players of 1994. Nobody wants a brawler in midfield. But you can use tactics to pass this drawback. I've tried the Mega-CD version. The colours and sounds are better but the bonuses turn out to be awful. As far as I'm concerned, FIFA Soccer number 1 is an absolute classic, hands down the best football game on the console. Really, look no further. This is it. You just won't find any football game better than FIFA. Other than that, Crüe Ball is something special. Excellent, excellent hardrock themed pinball game. Again, best on the system. I've never been a fan of the Strike series at all. If Choplifter belongs to the Colicovision, Dersert Strike belongs to the dustbin. (Only my opinion.) Also EA published Peter Molyneux's Theme Park. Super addictive game. All in all EA and the Mega Drive went together like a horse and carriage or like Al and Peg Bundy.
@j.goggels9115
@j.goggels9115 Жыл бұрын
You're right. In Theme Park, the controls are very hard to master, but once you've been through the learning stage... I can't stop playing it !!! I don't know what it is. Beating the AI probably. Some details are mindblowing: I once tried to hire a PR (Public Relation) right outside the doors to bring the punters in. Next I blocked the exits to hold the consummers hostage for them to spend and spend and spend in oblivion. The next bus stopped by. The people got off and started attacking my PR!!! I was stunned !!!! Somebody at Bullfrog had thought some Sperg like me would try to hold the people hostage. What happened next? Nobody went back to my park again. I couldn't sell. I couldn't do anything at all. I was facing an empty park. I had to turn the console off. To be fair, I deserved it. I played foul and the developpers punished me.
@j.goggels9115
@j.goggels9115 Жыл бұрын
Road Rash on the Mega CD sometimes gets a bad rap because people assume the Mega CD was capable of things it was not capable of. That scaling and rotation chip did NOT work as it should. Look at Night Striker. Look at Thunder Hawk. What EA proposed was actually the best possible use of the Mega CD, i.e. the original cartridge game with great cutscenes and a phenomenal soundtrack. I cannot stress enough how terrific Road Rash soundtrack is. As soon as you play this game, you're right back in the 90s with that typical Grunge sound. All of this makes for one hell of a game. Simple but very well made, not to mention you have the seeds of Grand Theft Auto here in Road Rash.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 Жыл бұрын
John Hancock, can I have your autograph? Just kidding, but Road Rash's, NHL 94' and Jungle Strike are some nostalgic classics for us. Never understood all of the EA hate, they made some great games
@initial_C
@initial_C Жыл бұрын
Desert Strike was one of my favorites.
@IDL716
@IDL716 Жыл бұрын
That menu music from NHL 94 🥹🤤👌
@reddogg3118
@reddogg3118 Жыл бұрын
Starflight is easily my favorite Genesis game. When I started the video, I was like, if he doesn't give it, an S rating, I'm Unsubscribing. 😜
@JGKingCrusher
@JGKingCrusher Жыл бұрын
So strange how EA supported Sega so much with the genesis and into the Saturn, then completely snubbed the Dreamcast. At that time, EA was the biggest baddest company around, so it was devastating to Sega's Dreamcast (which I absolutely loved the Dreamcast!). Great video.
@MIKandJEAN
@MIKandJEAN Жыл бұрын
Risky Woods, I think first impressions can put a lot of people off... If your willing to persevere you will be rewarded as your soon discover it's a very good Ghost'n Goblins type clone. 😉
@swilco266
@swilco266 Жыл бұрын
Stoked you liked Buck Rogers. Rough as guts, the graphics and sound are awful but it has gameplay in spades. I always say its like a primitive mass effect :)
@apocalypticminister1369
@apocalypticminister1369 Жыл бұрын
Great Video @John Hancock But, for Pete's sake, take off that Eagle crap man! Lol😂 Chiefs down here bud! Hahaa😂 Just a bit of off-season rivalry 😅
@crimesforkibble6912
@crimesforkibble6912 Жыл бұрын
Haunting starring polterguy is amazing
@MechaJoezilla
@MechaJoezilla Жыл бұрын
I love Starflight! Fairytales would have been cool if it had a saved ability, but it didn’t. It was a long password system with really bad fonts! Couldn’t tell one letter from another.
@gdparry2727
@gdparry2727 Жыл бұрын
That version of Syndicate is almost unrecognisable from the Amiga version I owned which was far grittier and darker
@MrStrangermoon
@MrStrangermoon Жыл бұрын
some says its latest offical game for md fifa 98 but its lost world game.
@malant2719
@malant2719 Жыл бұрын
The EA sports games gave the Sega genesis a slight edge over the snes in terms of sales. My main memories of EA games on the megadrive was the absence of “produced or under licence by Sega enterprises" when putting on the Sega 16 bit hardware. The last laugh was in 1994 when both Sega and EA both put out these 4 player peripherals which were incompatible with each games despite it being segas systems (could u imagine EA daring this kinda nonsense with Nintendo?) an atari connection TENGEN found a way of making their 4 player games compatible with both devices....
@watchingantennatvvcr
@watchingantennatvvcr 2 ай бұрын
Great series. EA was Boss back in the 90s.
@psychopoison
@psychopoison Жыл бұрын
When EA was really good
@kurukururin
@kurukururin Жыл бұрын
i remember playing countless hours of nhlpa hockey 93 on megadrive (yes, in sweden) at a friends house back in the day and it was great! i even liked its flaws :D charming. then one day i saw the snes version of nhl 94 in a store and had to testplay it. it was garbage! super choppy and basically unplayable! and i owned a snes back then, and was really a nintendo fanboy, but nhl was alot smoother and had better weight feeling on the megadrive for sure. im not sure if PAL video on the snes messed up the gameplay or not in nhl 94, but something was off for sure. i stuck with the nhlph 93 on megadrive for years to come lol ;D never needed another hockey game at the time. also fun fact: we never got nhl hockey in sweden. they had to rename it to ea hockey cause they didnt have the licens for nhl over here back then im guessing?
@joesshows6793
@joesshows6793 Жыл бұрын
I’m number 1!!
@MahmoudYahyaoui
@MahmoudYahyaoui Жыл бұрын
6:32 Is that Steve Harvey ??????
@MrWoodCy
@MrWoodCy Жыл бұрын
I was thinking Lionel Richie
@Soynereh
@Soynereh Жыл бұрын
Rolo to the Rescue.!!
@WarmFusion
@WarmFusion Жыл бұрын
E A G L E S Eagles!!!
@juliovindell264
@juliovindell264 Жыл бұрын
I heard EA reverse engineered the sega genesis thats why there games were so good
@ihugkittens484
@ihugkittens484 6 ай бұрын
Rolo to the Rescue! 🐘🐰🦫🐿😭😭😭😭😭
@rojotv122
@rojotv122 Жыл бұрын
You "missed" Fifa 98, I think it was released only in Europe
@noko4247
@noko4247 Жыл бұрын
sword of sodan rip
@tribaljavi
@tribaljavi Жыл бұрын
EA sports blew up so fast! Those early 90s basketball games had to be awful for NBA LIVE to come out s a gem on the first try!
@MrWoodCy
@MrWoodCy Жыл бұрын
Madden 92…. EA put a lot of effort into this game. Spent so many hours with friends… Good times
@scottlemiere2024
@scottlemiere2024 Жыл бұрын
If by supporter you mean "made their own cart design so they didn't have to pay licensing fees to Sega."
@dgrblue4162
@dgrblue4162 Жыл бұрын
When the best thing you can say about a game is turd, it's no good
@HiNRGboy
@HiNRGboy Жыл бұрын
Back when EA meant something haha!
@subieracer7
@subieracer7 Жыл бұрын
First
@MaxSabbath666
@MaxSabbath666 Жыл бұрын
i loved mutant league football. i was really disappointed in bloodbowl for the xbox because i thought it was gonna be like MLF. maybe thats my fault
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