I really don’t agree with people who say that The Dangerous Gift messed up with Snowfall’s character development. Considering it’s length, it’s a lot better than most other WoF books in that regard! I also feel like the dragons were never as much anti scavenger as much as they were just,,, ignoring them or using them as prey. There didn’t have to be that big of a change, considering that 2 out of 7 Phyrrian tribes really had something against Scavengers to begin with.

Best part of Flames of Hope was the Secret Stealth Team. (Qibli!) BUT YOU NEVER SEE HALF OF THEM FOR 90% OF THE BOOK!

I genuinely hope that when/if Tui returns to WoF to write a 4th arc, she takes a good hard look at why Legends Darkstalker is considered her best work by many. I also hope she returns to previous protags instead of just writing new ones. There is plenty of untapped potential in a lot of them, arc 2s cast especially. My biggest personal gripe with all of Arc 3 was that the prose and dialogue took a huge nosedive. It was almost impossible to take any of it seriously because even when it wanted to be serious, it crammed goofy comic relief nonsense or wacky silly prose into nearly every page, or forced the characters to speak like grade school children spouting memes on a playground, even if they were an adult. The previous books had some of that but nowhere near to the degree arc 3 had.

i really liked dragonslayer :D it made me think abt how they basically humans and dragons just judged each other based on appearance, but in (i think) book 14, they all started to get along :) i can see how u dont like it though, i also didnt really like ivy and leaf's pov

I hope there is an arc 4 with a MudWing protagonist, THESE GUYS NEED MORE PAGE TIME

Here after the premiere! Another awesome video Charcoal :))

Darkstalker will always be one of my favorite books of all time

Before this video premieres, I’m just gonna guess the ranking (worst to best) Dragonslayer The Dangerous Gift The Hive Queen The Dark Secret The Flames of Hope The Lost Continent Prisoners Runaway The Lost Heir Winter Turning Darkness of Dragons The Dragonet Prophecy Talons of Power Moon Rising The Poison Jungle Assassin The Hidden Kingdom The Brightest Night Escaping Peril Deserter Darkstalker (obviously) Edit: Charcoal, please don’t make a video about the Moon x Winter x Qibli love triangle. There really isn’t much to talk about, because we don’t spend a lot of time with them. Seriously, I REALLY don’t get why Moonbli is so popular! I get why Winter likes Moon, but why Qibli! I reread Legends: Darkstalker recently. Those last few chapters solidified this book as the best book I’ve ever read Another edit: My personal ranking, except for Dragonslayer because I don’t have time to read a 496 page book that a lot of people hate: The Flames of Hope, The Hive Queen, The Dangerous Gift, The Dark Secret, Prisoners, Runaway, The Lost Heir, The Lost Continent, Winter Turning, Darkness of Dragons, Talons of Power, Moon Rising, The Poison Jungle, The Dragonet Prophecy, The Hidden Kingdom, Assassin, The Brightest Night, Deserter, Escaping Peril, Darkstalker

My critique of wof Darkstalker is that it could have been longer with more world building and generally a taste for the world 2,000 years ago also I feel like the intent was to have the trip (of Fathom and Indigo) be longer and the sudden friendship between Fathom and Darkstalker/Clearsight and trust seems weird

In my opinion the 3rd book is usually the standout of the arc or the winglet. I think this might be because Tui no longer needs to set up the main story of the arc or wrap it up. We get more time for descriptions and world building which is personally one of my favorite things about WoF.

Now reading Escaping peril and having a realy good time, best one so far! And I hope arc 3 is not as bad as people say it is, I'm relatively easy to please and I realy want to like it cause the concept as a whole sounds great!

I was really really excited for a scavenger POV book, but I never could get through dragonslayer...

hottake: I don't care for darkstalker legends it was alright I actually enjoyed book 4 and 14 more

I do want arc 4 to happen, but I pray that Tui takes all this time away from Wings of Fire main books to get a strong idea for the whole arc that can surpass the best books in WoF. As much as I'd love another book with as much effort and dark themes as Legends Darkstalker, I fear we're past that era (I'd do anything for arc 4 to do something major).

Tui taking all that time to make Dragonslayer: dang 😭

Good list. I agree with most of your opinions, but I disagree with a lot of others. Dragonslayer for one. I'd put that one up a little higher. I personally thought it was marginally better than Flames of Hope because it at least consistent with the events of the first arc, and I feel that Ivy and Leaf are more interesting than given credit, especially considering how they interact with each other and get to the bottom of the conspiracy that befalls Ivy's home. Yea, the story was predictable except for Wren, but they at least contributed SOMETHING to the overall plot and we understood what was happening from their perspective which would have been impossible to write from a dragon's. The groundwork was there, but I do agree that it could have been handled better, but I don't think it's really as bad as everyone says it is. I personally think the negativity is more of a knee-jerk reaction because it's from a human's perspective and not a dragon's. I would have put Qibli's book a little higher on the list as well because Qibli's just such a lovable goofball, and at least the first two parts of his book give Qibli something to do while Turtle is off on his adventure. I love the dynamic he has with his "family" and I use that term loosely, and Winter coming along for the ride. Best of all it still has him worrying about Darkstalker and how much of a looming threat he still is. The plot doesn't forget about it and does everything it needs to to remind the readers that it's going on. I might put Assassin a little bit lower, but everything else is about where I would put them.

Prisoners very well did make me like Fierceteeth even more XD She's in my top 5 characters at least. The lost heir IS SO GOOD WHAT ALSO. I fully agree with Darkstalker though, I get chills just thinking about it

IMO moon rising (book 6) is the best book

I'm gonna be real with you, I really liked Book 11. Not my favorite, but it is top 8 at least. It only had one real problem for me: Blue. Other than that, I adore Pantala's worldbuilding, and dystopian is my favorite story genre.

dragonslayer did do a lot of explaining cause yknow, we needed explaining

30:13 I just realized darkstalker is looking into our soul

"It's too short" WINGLETS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SHORT

22:20 I guess you were having *The Brightest Night* 😂😂😂

I honestly liked TDS, I hate what they did to Starflight but yeah it could have been better

I’m on book three, I’m exited but I’m trying my best to avoid spoilers

Make a ranking on the biggest events in wings of fire

putting the highest main book in 3rd is wild or atleast it would be in any other book series

I think 7 is just when they s*xually mature - kind of like how girls can get pregnant as earlier as 10 or 12. Adults are probably later, and Deathbringer might actually be considered a teen. Dragon ages are hard to actually compare as there is none put down. It's still weird, obviously. If they were both fully grown, I think it would be ok if there was an age gap, and they obviously don't have at least one child until they're older (as in Moonwatcher's vision), so there's that. But the ages they got together is still a bit wrong. He was probably around 6 or so when she was born. I wish their relationship had waited, or was at least a bit smaller. But who knows, maybe in the dragon world this actually isn't bad? Their age system might work differently. Like, for example, if morrowseer had a mate that was 20 it would probably be seen as weird. Or maybe more 12? And not because it would be a large gap - but because that's still "youth." Either way, Deathbringer is too old for glory at the time.

Yesss

Charcoal, you should do a video where you rank every WoF protagonist

Placing Darkness of Dragons in number 12 is a crime Should been top 5

I agree with everything but I haven’t got to arc 3 almost tho

i read wings of fire at 3 am too

Really hope arc 4 will have a mud wing main character and a hybrid one! I liked Sunny but you didn’t get much hybrid from her and more just defective and weak.

To be honest Dragonslayer is my favorite but I like wrens plot the best

DRAGONSLAYER IS SO GOOD THOUGH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Dude, you put Lost Continent over Winter Turning!?💀

I only read wrens part in dragonslayer 😭

I never touched book 4 at all like at all. i liked the opening of jade mountain academy and the old nightwing kingdom and several other kingdoms like the seawing kingdom. my favorite book is honestly book 8 because of peril and the sky easter egg and scarlet I liked the sky palace. I'm just disgusted about the hivewings being related to one another and all the silkwings are the desandents of the beetlewings that didn't m8 with clearsight. pantala is kinda like the human world but with dragons instead

Your right dark$talker is the best book but the worst one art is the end

So funny how he roasts the books and puts myn favourites low! 🤣

Seemed like The Lost Heir had a grand mystery ideas but not enough page space so it crammed all the ideas together

This video made me sooooooooooooooo mad. I love it

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I love Dragon slayer,its just so good i dont know how you could hate it.i also love the flames of hope too,these two books are honestly my favorite books in the series,ya i know its not the most popular option but i just love both books so mutch!

Dragonslayer is very bad thing why not just make it very much something that you said a full book series of dragons should be central for this world and any human base character must have been built much better but not the biggest book to

You hate all the most of the books I love

Hot take: book 2 is the worst (or least good) besides dragonslayer

SOMBODY help me. Is willow a boy or girl.

I think hive queen is the worst

Winter turning is pretty boring

I'm surprised book 10 is as high as it is LMAO

Wings of Fire has the potential to be a phenomenal media franchise, but its numerous plot holes and flaws make leeway for filmmakers. For example, if I were a producer adapting the series into film or television, I would omit animus magic, Pantala and the Pantalan tribes from the story. Dragons can and are powerful, majestic and special without magic; Arc 3 shouldn't even exist in the first place, anyway.