Moon getting into the mindspace without being absorbed by the Othermind is explained pretty well. Her mind reading powers are her natural ability and she was not injected with the plant because she was invisible the whole time (or rescued by Sundew. I do agree though. I think this book would have been paced so much better if it did what the Legends books did and had three perspectives to show what happened exactly on Sundew's end. Still, the ending leaves the door open for a possible future, but also ties up enough to paint a clear picture that this is the end.

This book felt super messy. That’s really the only way I can describe it- like a fanfiction instead of an actual book.

Man, I HATED the Cottonmouth reveal! I feel like it came so out of nowhere and didn't feel satisfying. I feel like Tui was trying to get across the "anyone can do something good" but I feel like she's done that so many times already! I agree that Luna should have been the one to take down Queen Wasp or at least do SOMETHING! I was also super annoyed with Duskie showing up just so Luna could get attached to him and follow him into the abyss.

tbh, this book wasnt that bad. sure it was messy, but it was actually ok. the only thing i HATE about it is how they sideline wasp. and, inreal honesty, swordtail and Luna are awesome, and im happy swordtail is still here.

i’m honestly so frustrated by the sudden importance of humans. i started reading these books when i was younger because i wanted a dragon book without humans, and now i feel like that aspect of it is gone. if there is ever a book 16, i’m not reading it.

10:27 The perpetually hungry one, the group muscle, the sassy one, the smart one, the bundle of joy, the bundle of anxiety, the emo, the sociopath learning how not to be a sociopath, the shy rollie pollie, the jokester, the pathetic one, the curious one, the fierce but venerable one, and the insecure one. Then there's Luna, the racist.

I had seriously low expectations for this book to be “Okay.” Fortunately the book passed them with flying colors. I had 3 things that needed to happen. 1. Don’t kill Moon or Qibli. (They are my personal favorite couple and I needed them to survive.) 2. Queen Wasp does NOT get a redemption arc. (She is evil and using “the breath of evil controlled her” excuse is complete BS) 3. Don’t kill off Bullfrog (I needed to know a new mudwing that isn’t one of Clay’s relatives, or a member of the mudwing royal family or Ochre)

Moon getting into the mindscape is not contrived at all. She’s constantly in what’s basically a collective mindscape, and I actually theorized that she might be able to communicate with dragons under the influence long before this book came out. Also, if the dreamvisitor can communicate with swordtail’s real self while he’s injected, moon can overhear dreams, and luna can be in the mindscape as herself while injected, Its not at all a stretch to think that moon would be able to access the dreamscape by way of an infected party member. Also the ending. I think its fine that everything could be solved by cutting that stem. In fact I think it makes more sense than anything else I could think of. It sounds like you feel like that’s kinda anticlimactic. For me, the climactic part isn’t what had to be done. It was Lizard volunteering that information. Im much more annoyed that Luna’s flamesilk had nothing to do with it at all, that our book 15 prologue and book 14 epilogue ‘characters’ and Io and Axolotl and even kind of Wren were nothing but plot devices. Sky and wren were worked into this arc when they, and every human except cottonmouth really never should have been In this arc. Give Wren, Sky, Winter, Cricket, and Axol a and maybe throw in smolder and rose and give them a winglets, but I think the humans could have been cut out. Pineapple is wonderful but I would have loved to see his mind excerpt thing before he attacks. Bullfrog isn’t dumb. He’s just logical. He does do absolutely nothing tho. I feel like mudwing’s ability to hold their breath could possibly have been utilized with him. Also really want to know about his sibs or what happened to them. While Lynx does do something, she absolutely gets shafted in terms of interactions. She holds Luna’s hand, and decides to trail moon, and that’s it. Bullfrog, Sky, Cricket, and Tsunami do nothing, but at least they talk. Actually scratch that Tsunami really really gets shafted too. I don’t care as much about her shafting as I do Lynx’s tho, because tsunami’s screen time is just so high, and lynx’s is not. And luna makes a big deal about moon looking like clearsight, but this is never important. I like the subversion of Luna’s expectations about how moon’s future sight didn’t help as much as luna hoped it would, but I can’t enjoy it fully because the characters never react to this. They even make a deal talking about how it’s up to you about how you fulfill a prophecy but that doesn’t go anywhere. I do think this book has a lot of problems, but they’re summed up by: Too many characters, too many plot lines, not enough payoff. And less by ‘this doesn’t make any sense’ but there are a few thing that straight up don’t make sense, specifically, pinapple not falling under the plant until after the throne room scene, when he drank that crap the night before. It would be forgivable if it was the morning of, as smoke inhalation is generally more effective that eating but as it is, it’s just really odd. More than anything, I think it feels unfinished. Not the book but the story. Like, tui is matching up shapes and colors to make a picture but while some loops of color close, others don’t, and she hasn’t figured out how to arrange them all to close all the most important loops.

Also does anyone else think the overly repeated motif of the tapestry was odd? Like I know she’s mentioned to enjoy weaving in the other books, but it feels shoved down your throat, I felt like I was constantly being told she loved weaving and that felt like her only character trait.

My biggest gripes are humans being important and Queen Wasp being completely sidelined lol. I read these books for dragons and while I liked the Othermind/Breath of Evil stuff, Queen Wasp needed more attention. But no. She was just...thrown to the side when they set her up to be so dangerous and terrifying. Also flamesilk!!! It was set up to be so important and it isn’t even used to defeat the villains!! I feel like Tui may have been a bit rushed to get this book out. The writing quality drop was so sudden and I have suspicions that the publisher may have pushed her to finish this book early, but I have no proof for this. That being said I do like the book overall! Great points

My big complaints of TFOH: -The Secret Stealth Team gets separated in just a few chapters -Luna and Dusky being stuck in the mindspace for two arcs -Luna being unable to participate in any of the action sequences -Lack of intense moments -Wasp doesn’t die and gets treated like day old bread after the reveal of Cottonmouth -Blue and many other characters don’t get any spotlights

The first two arcs are just masterpieces, let’s forget the third arc is a thing

I always felt like a tiny thing that would’ve helped Luna’s character was for her to actually use her flamesilk abilities. We got to know her in the first book as a rebellious individual, and she should’ve been thrilled to know that she could help defeat Queen Wasp with her flamesilk. If Tui wanted to go for the “maybe I don’t want to be the savior who has to murder everyone” thing, it would’ve been much more effective for Luna to have USED her flame-silk in that first battle sequence, and for an enemy to get so horrifically burned, she begins to question if she even wants to do this anymore. Idk, this is obviously not my biggest gripe of the book, but the entire time, it felt like Luna was ‘out of character’, which just made the entire thing so much worse. She was presented to us in one way, and then that way was ignored and replaced by other stuff. Did anyone else feel that way?

I have very mixed feelings about this book because there were aspects that I really liked reading about but I feel like it wasn’t Tui who was writing the book. It did seem messy and the epilogue was nice but it left out so much. I wish that the order of events was different too.

Very true! Did anyone else get that feeling again of actually reading wings of fire? Idk what it was but it was awesome! And yeah not the best best book but still pretty nice!

I went to a recent WoF event hosted by Tui, there is definitely more wings of fire coming. The Netflix series is still a while away, probably over a year, but from what I've heard it will be good. I will agree that book 15 was a bit disappointing to me, and I hope there is an arc four to finish the series with. Good video.

I’m calling it now: he was massively disappointed by the book. At least I was. The best way I could describe it is by saying it felt more like messy fanfiction than an actual official book written by the same author. It’s like all of Tui’s writing skill and experience suddenly vanished when writing this book. It just felt so sloppy in my opinion.

Can I say it was a massive disappointment that Luna's flamesilk was brushed aside? It was talked about for a few sentences and it would have been better if Luna killed Wasp with her Sunsilk

the first three pantala books were so good im rlly dissapointed with how 14 and 15 turned out :( wasp just getting completely sidelined like that was so sad i really wanted to see more of her lol. it was also super annoying when the pov was being in a room the entire time. they shouldve switched povs with characters occasionally, it wouldve likely helped make the luna scenes stronger. idk, this book was just pretty confusing

(Please do not kill me) I really did NOT like the conclusion. I felt like it ruined the first three pantala books and did not follow the original problem of queen wasp. If anyone could agree, the middle was like the middle of Harry Potter 7, when they are aimlessly wandering through the forest. I feel like everything important in the first three books was shunted aside for this weird random idea that didn’t fit. Tui is amazing, and I love WOF, I was just very dissatisfied at this in justifying and weird book.

As for axolotl I completely agree, they had no defining characteristics except that they were enby. I wish we could have more diverse characters but actually have depth to characters as well.

Honestly what a good video summing up the shortcomings and shining parts of this book. I feel like at some point the draft of this book was different, but it was getting too long to the point it couldn't pull the series together in a single book, so Luna had to be pulled back as an observer character to keep the focus broad enough for the readers to clue in on all the action once the plot threads started tying off. From a writer's perspective, it does feel like Series 4 was a thought in the aether during Book 11, and THIS series was setting up for the Tribes to unite and go to Pantala to fufill the prophecy over the span of five additional books after Series 3. And for reasons unknown- maybe worries about series bloat, or the fourth series would be too dilute with everything that needed to happen every book, it was compressed down to Book 15. You can kinda get a sense of each story beat that might've otherwise been the focus of a book of its own. Not the worst way to end a series- just not the roar we thought we'd be left with. Better than a lot of books that're currently suffering series bloat. I'd rather WoF ended like this, than be dragged on and have the newer books essentially be counter-writing complaints about the series that've been brought up by fans who continue to read it

I expected the flames of hope to be an epic final battle between the group and queen wasp, boy was I miss lead. The only major fight scene was on the island and nothing else really happened. Wasp was hardly even in the book.

I liked this book but I was kind of hoping that sky and peril would meet in the epilogue or something. THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW EACHOTHER.

My bullet-point review of The Flames of Hope: *Pros* - Part 1 (especially the island battle) - The concept of the Othermind (2 minds, an evil human and an innocent dragonet with leafspeak, joined together by a parasitic plant with an instinctive desire to grow and spread by any means possible) - HiveWings having green blood (like many insects) - Luna & her character arc (yes, tapestries and all) - Pineapple (including his relationship with Jambu) - Malachite - Moon’s mind-reading being useful *Neutral* - Part 2 (including the Scorching backstory) - Dusky - Axolotl - Cottonmouth - All characters not listed elsewhere *Cons* - Part 3 - Best villain (Queen Wasp) getting completely sidelined - The execution of the concept of the Othermind (the mindspace just felt really dumb and contrived, not to mention confusing at times) - The literal execution of the Othermind (killed with an ordinary thread of silk? Really?) - Setting (half the book was literally spent in a hole, not to mention all the caves) - Style of writing (felt kind of like a sloppily-written fanfiction, especially in part 3) - Tone of writing (too lighthearted; should have been darker overall) - The epilogue (lack of meaningful followup on Blue and lots of other major characters from the arc (Admiral & the other flamesilks, Burnet & Silverspot, Io, Wasp, Scarab, Jewel, Belladonna, Sequoia, Hazel, Mandrake, Snowfall, Sky, etc.)) - Humans being so integral to the plot - Humans are suddenly big enough to carry a 2-year-old dragonet, apparently - Blue SeaWing blood - The way Axolotl’s gender identity was introduced (very cringe) - Lizard/Freedom (super annoying character) - Bullfrog (yet another throwaway MudWing) Overall, this book only gets a 3/5 from me, making it my least favorite in the entire series. What a shame 😔

Eh,the book was okay in my opinion but definetley ( I know I spelled it wrong sorry) not my favorite. When they said Wasp and all her sisters got locked up,does that mean Scarab,too? I know she's Wasp's aunt,but they don't say anything about her. I wanna know what happened to her. And yes,I agree with Charcoal,I don't really like the way the humans are introduced. I don't like the fact that they're anything more than side characters in the books.

This was a fun review and I agreed with most all of your critiques here - the book really was... messy, as you put it. I do, however, have to disagree with you on three points: 1) Bullfrog was not at all a sack of bricks. Did he talk slowly and simply? Yes. Did he fail to keep up with Qibli in conversation? Also yes, but come on, who wouldn't? When it mattered, though, Bullfrog came through. He was the one who brought the insight that prophecies are more guidelines than exact predictions which ultimately got the group moving in the right direction. He was also the first (and only) one to react when they turned visible again and their only human connection was about to escape. Without Bullfrog, things would not have gone well for the group. He may have talked slowly, but this was in no way representative of his ability to contribute and I, personally, really enjoyed discovering this nuance to his character. 2) Maybe this is just a me thing, but I don't see humans becoming more involved in the plot as a bad thing. At the end of the day, they're just new characters. All of the dragons we've come to know and love could just as easily have been humans (with a few extra abilities) and we'd still love them for who they are. It's not the simple fact that these characters are dragons that make these books so special. It's the writing behind them; the writing that builds them up, that shows us their strengths and their flaws, that lets us connect with them, and that makes us feel as if they really are part of our lives. Human characters in these books are no different, especially now that they have ways to communicate with dragons. 3) Luna definitely has character and a character arc. Going along with your classification of each of the pov characters from the series, I would call Luna the "Rebel". Her "thing" is that she detests the society she grew up in and actively wants to take it down. She works toward this goal, or at least considers it, in almost every scene she's in. As for her arc, in part 1 of the book she needed to rehash the whole "understanding things from other dragon's perspectives" arc that Sundew went through so that in parts 2 and 3 she could use that while trying to convince Lizard that there are better lives out there. It was necessary for the plot because, without it, Lizard's transformation feels forced/unorganic which absolutely ruins Lizard/Freedom's climactic moment. Now, that raises the broader question of whether or not it was a good idea to introduce two new characters as the main bad guys in the final book of the arc, but that's a different discussion - given the context, this was an arc that Luna and Lizard/Freedom went through _together_ and that makes it both more important and perhaps easier to see. But other than that, I agreed with pretty much everything! I also really liked your idea for the time-skip epilogue. I think that would have made a perfect end to the series. Given that it didn't happen, I've got my fingers crossed that it wasn't truly the end hahaha.

I really wished that Wasp (or the Hivewings in general) found out that Moon had Future Sight, seeing the confliction with someone who they would most likely view as a second coming of Clearsight saying "you guys are in the wrong" would be very interesting.

Fun fact there is only one book about a mud wing which is the first

In some way, I feel I'm glad to have just skipped the third arc entirely and treat book 10 as the true ending of Wings of Fire. My reasoning behind this is that all the way from the start to book 10, the books seemed to have some sort of connection with each other, as if the series was meant to have exclusively just 10 books and two arcs tying the series together with a nice bow tie to give to all the dragon fans. There was definitely no indication that there was a third arc in the first two, so what I'm guessing is that Tui did not exactly see this would get so popular that she'd be in a position to provide more content whether it's needed or not (probably because of superiors and whatnot, can't blame her if she's being forced to produce more than what's needed or planned for). This very much happens with any franchise that goes on for too long, pokemon being the first name I can definitely think of, who has probably the longest story I can really think of with a lot of places to put a satisfying ending in. Sad that Wings of Fire couldn't have a much deserved ending that would have been book 10 than what seems to be book 15. But oh well, at least there's still an animated adaptation left to enjoy and I'm really hoping that it's not a fake like the few times I've already seen happen prior. Good video in any case.

Oooo! I'm excited to see what you have in store for this wings of fire discussion!

Is no one gonna talk about how during the fight scene at the beginning, Tsunami was bleeding and it was described as “blue SeaWing blood,” but in the graphic novels and in previous books, SeaWings had red blood. IceWings have blue blood.

Ok honestly not the best book but I still like it. It was definitely a messy conclusion. I wish we got to see like kaydid and malachite come back, or blue and Luna meet back up, I would have loved to see more dragons coming back together in a heartfelt “holy crap I missed you” hugging loving catching up way, but we just got “oh and everyone got together and caught up and now everything is fine and we can go back and forth between continents” Also I wish wasp was more than a minor character and I agree with everything said wasp related like bruh why couldn’t Luna just up and murder her. Also lizard/freedom holy crap I love her and I hate that she had her life taken away from her as a dragonet, yes her tantrums and arguements can get annoying but dude she’s a wee baby, small children’s thoughts are usually about themselves so the fact that freedom gave up her life for everyone else to live means a lot seeing how she acted before and that she is a dragonet who had her life taken from her means a lot. Also I HATE how in like every page there’s something about tapestries! Like we get it Luna likes tapestries we don’t need to hear it every other sentence! It definitely helps sometimes with visualizing but there’s still way to much tapestries tapestries tapestries! Overall I like the book but it could’ve been a lot better, my favorite character from it is freedom, she deserved so much better. And I just wish that the book was better, I wish it was longer to give us a better conclusion but this is fine

I did like the ending, and Lizard/Freedom's redemption brought tears to my eyes, but overall this book was just okay for me. There were some good moments and great ideas, but the execution was poor for the most part, and there was too much wasted potential. If this truly is the end of Wings of Fire (I doubt it) then let the main series end here. I used to think that Arc 3 was my favorite of the series, but after seeing how the Arc concludes, I may have to reconsider.

This book was quite good for me! I actually liked the idea for the mindscape, and Cottonmouth, and how it relates to the Scorching. What wasn’t good at all, was the start, and how they literally got captured. Also, it was like the other part of the team immediately poofed (Sky, Wren, Bullfrog) They just didn’t do anything and just stayed with Bryony and the SilkWings- I’m gonna compare this to my favorite, and my least favorite book in the series My most favorite: Winter Turning (although I might edit this one because It is in competition currently) My least favorite: Talons Of Power Talons of power was really bad, because Turtle and Kinkajou did NOTHING. And Tui took that word seriously in the books. Most of the book was just Turtle and Kinkajou spying on Darkstalker, and trying to communicate with Qibli through the slate with a stupid enchantment, that Qibli can’t write back, which made me really mad. Even worse, Tui pushed all the action to the end of the book, which would make it very little, besides everybody remembering the animus battle. Comparing to Flames Of Hope, Talons Of Power is way worse. Flames Of Hope atleast had some action. Such as the backstory of The Scorching, and Luna and Dusky getting captured by the Abyss, and the death of Freedom (which was just sad) It had a happy ending, which if there is a Arc 4, it would most likely take place in a new continent. Now my favorite. Winter Turning Winter Turning gave a lot of depth to the characters, I didn’t want to read it, and I tryed to avoid it at first, because that time I was a Darkstalker simp, and since he wasn’t talking In that book, I didn’t want to read it, which caused me to just go read Darkstalker Legends, because I am a idiot. I later on read it and gosh was it good- How Foeslayer turned out to be frozen by Queen Diamond as a punishment, which was why the red dot in the map in the legends book wasn’t moving. It also felt like a mystery book, and most things connect, such as all of them trying to find Hailstorm, which they first had to find Icicle, then find where Scarlet hid him, which lead to the Diamond Trial, and Foeslayer. Again, it’s in competition, as it might be replaced as favorite, with another book I really enjoy, so I might edit this. Let’s compare it to Flames Of Hope Flames Of Hope was messy indeed, but it did connect, such as how the Scorching caused all of this, but something unlike it, is what did Bullfrog, Wren and Sky had to do with ANY of the book? They did absolutely nothing more then say ideas and that’s it. Flames of Hope was really enjoyable though, yet some of it was frustrating, and sort of rushed. Anyways this is my opinion.

unpopular opinion: i absolutely LOVED this book

My Afterthoughts of reading the book and watching this video: 1. To give some background, I usually will almost immediately reread a good book (every wof book included), this time I disliked it SO much that I haven't reread it once. 2. I think it's bad because of one thing that I call the Train-to-Busan-syndrum which is based off the zombie movie: Train to Busan, that I disliked too because of the one factor: the main part or majority of whatever I'm talking about (book 15 in this case) is in one small space for wwwwwaaaayyyyy to long. 3. Saying I hated the book is probably not far off, I just didn't like it, I'm reading this series to see dragons doing cool stuff, not for CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT THAT ISN'T EVEN THAT GOOD! AAAAAAAAAAA- 4. Screaming over with I would like to discuss the future of this series (what I would like to see) starting at a book (yes 300 pages) about the aftermath, I would also like to see a book where Sky meets Peril and (maybe in the same book) one where they tie off the loose end in the epilogue of Legends: Dragonslayer. 5. Jumping back to book 15, I have no idea what the shi-[REDSCTED] was going on the whole time, I expected some fighting, storming the hives, and some other cool stuff not sitting in a cave doing nothing. 6. Rewinding to before book 12 came out (a while ago) my brother and I thought that it would be cool if Darkstalker, not the coward Sandwing I would gladly purify, removed Animus Magic as a I-can't-be-alive-so-you-can't-have-magic thingy. 7. I don't have high hopes for anything else wof-related I think the guide/forge dragon world thingy will come out and nothing else, no Netflix show, no nothing. I believe this is true cause book 15 and 14 flopped so oH tHeY mUSt noT liKE wOf anYmORe. Which is wrong, the developers of the pvz shooter games thought that and cut production of anything related to that, they were wrong and they aren't changing their minds. 8. Due to my thoughts I would overall consider book 15 a 1.5/5 and wof in general a 8.9/10 (doniask why so sespific), it would be a 10/10 if it weren't for somethings... Liiikkkkeee being in a cave for half a book-yeah you get the point. That's it, do you agree with some of what I said or do you disagree? Up to you what you think, and god dang it don't think I'm trying to insult you of do anything bad/speaking the truth it's all an opinion just RELAX!

I agree with many of the points you made. Book 14-15, while they were good books in their own right, felt lack-luster in comparison to the rest of the series; it seems Tui is trying to experiment with absent storytelling by making the main characters (Snowfall and Luna) see different circumstances through the eyes of other dragons or just plainly have them not be there during conflict. I particularly have issue with Pineapple spitting venom at Queen Wasp and the "fight" that broke put while Luna was trying to destroy the BoE in Book 15. There is so little substance in those events because Luna (and thus the readers) are watching events unfold from an outsider's perspective, that when Pineapple attacked Queen Wasp and ruined her face, we don't feel any sense of finality or justice behind it. It just... Happened. It felt mildly incomplete at best and lazy at worst. For Tui to call Queen Wasp her favorite antagonist then dispose of her in such a boring way really irks me. Personally, I think Book 14 should have been told from the perspective of Swordtail. It would have been fascinating to read him trying to help Blue and the other Silkwings while simultaneously distrusting himself in the event Wasp takes over. Sort of like Meilin's trauma in the first arc of the Spirit Animals (the 5th book was written by Tui herself). Why Tui wrote the book for Snowfall when she wasn't even part of the plot to begin with bothers me immensely. I have my reservations about Book 15, but only in that Luna herself was a passive force, really only doing the bare minimum to keep the plot going long enough to meet Cottonmouth and Lizard/Freedom (who was the highlight of the finale). Sad since Luna said she didn't want to be a tool used by Queen Wasp or a symbol by the Silkwings, yet ultimately she was a slave to the story. I don't want to call Tui's writing bad or claim the third arc was horrible- in fact, I think arc 3 had the POTENTIAL to be one of the best arcs, up until Books 14-15 came out- but it is clear at the least she's trying to experiment different writing mediums. Absent storytelling does work to an extent, but dedicating the near entirety of the book to flashbacks and out-of-body experiences caused the weight behind the main character to fade. Nonetheless, I enjoyed these books for what they were and I lament their potential and what could have been. Though making Dragonslayer was a massive mistake. I hate all the human characters and especially Sky.

I honestly loved book 15 but I agree with you. The only real reason is because I loved Lizard/Freedom. She was feisty but wanted freedom so bad. I just loved her at the end when she sacrificed herself. I feel like she kind of got that development that Luna needed.

I just finished this book and I feel like Tui pushed concepts and themes over the actual plot.The villains didn’t do to much themselves because well, they can’t, their dead. And some characters just seemed to be placeholders.

As much as I would like to see this video…I can’t. I haven’t read the book yet. But the title is immediately making me think the ending is disappointing. But I hope it’s more based on opinion than facts. I better not be disappointed by the book. I’ll be back here when I get a chance to read It. Edit:I read the book and I must say. I actually ended up liking it. I think it was arc finale worthy. But…it just wasn’t series finale worthy. Although it would be better to leave it off there. Instead of making everything worse by extending the series with a 4th arc. Besides. We will still get graphic novels and other kinds of books. But if we do get a 4th arc. It better be done right. And have an actual reason to continue the story. Due to the way book 15 ended.

Also, SeaWing Blood is red, but now blue?

Personally I really enjoyed this book, and I think it was well written. I just don't think it had the "ending" kinda thing we all wanted, I do think the end was a bit underwealming, but over all, I very much enjoyed it

I just finish the series a few days ago (main books only) and Tbh the 3rd arc feels more like First Fanfic than a series finally, ecspshaly(can't spell) Lunas pov. It's boring & dragged out. Like give Luna Something to do! not just sit on her tail and talk to the ghost of a dragonet. I'll admit The cutting the vine was okay but I would've preferred Luna figured it out on her. I think the biggest problem with Flames of Hope is it was conestly breaking the Show don't Tell rule of writing, with Luna & Lizard.

This is almost EXACTLY how i feel about it!!

I hate that Sunderland had to make it end in such a way somewhat but the thing is that I wish she could do a fourth arc but with an ending like that tells me it might not happen, I mean who knows if yhe fourth arc will happen. I mean I think the series still has a lot of potential for adventures and stuff but honestly even to me 15 is yes a lot of books for an author but for someone like me who's a fast reader and who longs long well done series I do love but I know that if you go down the path like warriors did to how much worse it got over time to slowly die out it was bad and wings of fire could have that if Sunderland does decide to actually even have a fourth arc after many years of a break, but I can see why she would stop the series but it's so popular rn and many people and one like me thinks that the series beyond 15 had so much potential left and I want it too because I'm freaken hungry for more but I know it's something that might not happen and we might mostly get stuff like legends and guides and such for the series. I hope to God if it does continue I think their should be a time skip not the year and a half something or so that's happened throughout the three arcs I think we should have all the ones we have all grown up or so and have new ones like bumblebee and such as sky and such wren and whatever young ones be apart of something new pr basically what im saying is to instead of continuing on the same boring old dying path like warriors did without a time skip for WOF, of anyone agrees to what I'm saying about this please let me know that I'm not the only one thinks that their could be much more potential for the series after 15 books or her doing the rest of legends books and such after her long break from it and such.

I never saw a silk wing without wings Edit form over 9 months later 3:34 is the the wingless silkwing

Looks like a game of thrones season 8 moment

I would really love to hear your opinions!

I already have it! I can’t wait to read it!

I absolutely adore Bullfrog. He's so funny.

Think what you want about this, but this book create one of the biggest plot holes in the whole series. In part 2 or 3, lizard says that the first dragons came 3000 years after they did. Want to know when that was? The same time as darkstalker. As we know at the end of darkstalker and prologue of book 11, clearsight went to the lost continent and found dragons already there, speaking a whole new language. It even says in the epilogue of book 10 that they made jokes about the lost continent. So how in the world did two entire species of dragons flee the continent and start a new language the same time that darkstalker tried to take the throne? There’s no thought at all about two species fleeing. Also ig tui decided it was a good idea to change an already developed blood color by changing seawing blood to blue instead of red all of a sudden. Good job tui

Pretty sure a 4th arc was announced, let’s hope it lives up to the hype, especially with the, late 1990’s-2000’s Disney famous movie sub-par sequel feel with arc 3

Tbh when playing, reading, or watching something I'm usually just "Oh this is nice I was able to enjoy it enough to pass time with it" and I'm not the best at critiques or reviews or anything, but the ending of the book I do agree it's not really the best ending for Wings of Fire in general (Meaning the main series, unless an arc 4 is revealed), and I wish it focused on other dragons. The new characters were pretty nice however I kind of hoped for Axolotl to be more focused on and more important to the story after how they were introduced Also couldn't help but mention how I recognized the PLA Giratina and route 209(?) theme as soon as it began playing, they're some of my favorite soundtracks lol

I was pretty underwhelmed with the book. And yeah Luna's lack of consistency didn't help. Which is a shame, everything we had seen up until the release from her had me excited. I was ready to make her my all time favorite. But when we get her pov in this book it feels like she has 15 different personalities and perspectives, which could have been used if they acknowledged it but I don't think it was intentional. We have the Luna who hates hivewings which is probably the one that gets the most focus but has the least amount of bearing, we have the Luna that thinks her way is the best way which COULD have worked perfectly. Against with the parallels to darkstalker if she and qibli had been able to have more interactions I think this idea of her black and white view of the world could have been used in the climax with it being as emotion and dialogue heavy as it is could have been best used if freedom and Luna helped each other and that was the resolution or the thing that pushed freedom to sacrifice herself. The Luna I think tui wanted though was the one who had to learn to open up and acknowledge her feelings. Which doesn't really match with the emotional Luna we get in previous installments but none of these really do so it's fine ig. I feel like if the memory things required Luna to be vulnerable with freedom and freedom in turn reflected on herself because of this it could have worked instead of the few random lines. Also there was this "we aren't so different you and I" esc line from cotton mouth that really should be removed if they weren't going for the 2nd option. I really am hoping for another arc so they can tackle the political state of pantala. I want to see bumblebee working for the pantalan investigative agency tracking down assasins and preventing political distress while we see how sever the hivewing problem is and how far wasp supporters are willing to go. Remember LOK SEASON 1? Yeah like that except even more based in politics lol.

I actually really liked the book although I felt like Qibli and Tsunami were like different characters. And Freedom was annoying

I found after a bit of thinking I understood all of the mind space and breath of evil stuff

I am very excited for the Wings of fire on Netflix series like come out already

I agree with all of your points, I feel like Luna was ok as a side character, but she more of a way to view the story through her eyes.

Hey Charcoal can't wait it starts in two minutes!!!!

I can’t wait for the book 6 graphic novel because of the scenes with darkstalker

Here's a scene i wrote that something the likes of should have literally been in the book: “ _You have to go!_ ” Sundew screamed. More guards were pouring into the room like smoke, the snarls of battle and the drone of wings and the slither of vines everywhere filling Luna’s skull, a horrible cacophony. She gasped for air, her breaths coming in sobs at the sight of Sundew about to vanish under a wave of HiveWings, all their blank white eyes coldly following the LeafWing’s every heave and slash and bite. Sundew reached for her last pouch, only for it to be ripped and thrown skiddering aside. _And I’m useless I’M USELESS my flamesilk would only let us be infected by smoke!_ Luna screamed at herself. Sundew kicked away a HiveWing who was snapping at her tail and twisted towards Tsunami, who grimly fought at her side. “Leave! LEAVE, ALL OF YOU!” “We will not leave you behind,” Pineapple shouted from above. Another dart went _thunk_ into the side of a HiveWing reaching for Sundew, but two more instantly took her place. “This is our last chance,” Sundew cried, voice raw. Tsunami barrelled into the two HiveWings clambering over her, giving her just enough airspace. “They’ll catch you all after me, and our last hope will be gone. Do without me.” “ *Clever LeafWing,* ” a HiveWing sneered before whipping out his tail, a glistening stinger sliding out in one slick motion. Luna felt a lurch in her gut as something green and translucent pulsed up towards the tip, exuding a single malevolent drop. Tsunami lunged to sink her teeth into his tail, but he knocked her aside, sending her thudding hard to the floor. Even as Luna watched through blurred tears, the vines were inching closer and closer to Sundew, hungry for leafspeak to speak them into multiplying. “We have to go - Luna! Tsunami!” Pineapple’s voice sounded far away. “This battle is lost!” Luna snapped her head up, blinking, to see Pineapple winging down towards her at the window. Tsunami hesitated for just a moment, torn, before letting loose a growling cry and taking off too. “Sundew,” Luna whispered. Two burly HiveWings had forced her wings open and pinned them down, while the one with the stinger stalked forward, grinning to reveal all his teeth. Sundew relaxed, all the fight releasing from her, as she met her fate in the eye. Everything else seemed to pass like a dream, like a fading nightmare. Luna had managed to catch one last glimpse over her shoulder, before the three of them leaped into the skies. Another glimpse, even as they flew with all the last vestiges of energy in them. The stinger in Sundew’s neck. Sundew sitting upright, bowed in pain. The LeafWing’s last, steadfast gaze after the fleeing dragons. Before her eyes flickered white and the breath of evil erupted into life all around her.

How charcoal described the start of part three is something similar to how I’d imagine freedom to explain it

I hate to be that person, but does anyone know where i can LISTEN to book 15?Ive looked for a while

I freaking loved pineapple from chaptor one, he just became such a loveable charter for me and i was so upset when he got captured :( i honstly wish he could of had more...um..screentime? booktime? idk what the word would be but i loved him. As for Bullfrog i had a theroy about him, from the dangurse gift, ever since snowfall said he was a big buff mudwing ive been wondering, could he of lost all his siblings in the war? did he join the stealth mission in the hopes it would be a one way? or did he hope it would give him soemthing to live for? Why would a dragon like him, that could of been a bigwings, join a mission he might not return from? The flames of hope made me think that maybe becuse he lost so much that he was so reseved, becuse he was scared to get close to anyone, yet he still felt the bigwing urg to protect others, hence saving cricket from Prongweed(might of got the name wrong, havent read the book enought to remeber much) and trying to save part of the group at the start. i have so many thoughts and questions from Bullfrog that i would of like answered but the FOH just left more questions.

This was the most confusing book in the series as read more of the book and grasped more things the book would just keep shoving more things in my face causing me too constantly be prosesing what is going on

WTF IM REALLY BEHIND

Same here I during the being I had no idea if they were on priyya or pantala it turns out they were on the islands

Ngl their was so many gaps and they got sky's color palette wrong TwT. ALSO BLUE seawing blood when they have red blood (confusion)

Problems with the book and my personal solutions: 1.) In book 11, we know Luna as this fierce, disobedient SilkWing that will not hesitate to stand up for whats good, but in book 15, she just becomes really…shy? Like, all her fierceness just kinda evaporates. I mean, think about it. We know Luna DOESNT like HiveWings. But when all her friends are in danger against HIVEWINGS, shes just…there. Like, she worries her flamesilk might burn her friends, but why cant she just go down there all invisible and burn them herself? It’s not like they’ll be able to see her, and even if they manage to hurt her, they dont know where she is. Overall, Luna kind of just…downgraded 1S) I think Luna’s fear of her flamesilk should be completely dissolved, and instead, replaced by losing her friends. (Swordtail, Blue, Io, etc) Why? She’s already fearful for losing Swordtail, and that shouldnt be different from all her other friends being controlled by the Othermind. And I know shes scared of being blown out again, but that was during a STORM. Yes, a STORM. Was there a storm during that fight sequence? Or high winds? Nope. Also, in Book 14 when Jerbora was asking her scroll if Luna was dangerous, it responded with “Only to those who hurt her friends” Ironic, isnt it? And add her fierceness back. 2) Most of the Stealth mission members didnt get much, uh, screentime? Booktime? Idk what to call it, but still. Pineapple is trapped by the HiveWings and doesnt show up for a while until he enters the mindspace. Moon is also trapped by the HiveWings and doesnt show up for a while until she enters the mindspace. So is Tsunami and Qibli, oh dear, they were gone for literally SO LONG. Although Sky was there for most of the time, he mostly did nothing. Sundew and Lynx were gone most of the book to rescue the others, Bullfrog was basically a minor character. Overall, this aspect was disappointing. 2S) Like the Legends book, I think they should have switched the POV each chapter. With so many characters to keep track of and so little backstory with Bullfrog and Pineapple, I think it’s fair. It would be interesting to see how Lynx and Sundew rescued the others. 3) Wasp’s defeat was so unclimatic. I expected something better than an already used strategy of defeating an evil queen and imprisonment. 3S) Kill her. Straight up, just kill her. Dont keep her alive. Snap her neck, blast frostbreath, choke her with vines (funny that Sundew hated Queen Wasp so much only to keep her alive) snap her neck, pull out her teeth, gouge out her eyeballs, BURN HER WITH FLAMESILK JUST KILLED HERRR RARATAYHEHDDJJDJD

So, at the end of TFoH, we see Sundew sorting out saplings from Pyrrhia. This doesn’t seem like a big deal, but…those saplings are most likely going to become an invasive species on Pantala. There’s a reason why trees on Pyrrhia are on Pyrrhia and why trees on Pantala are on Pantala. Also, how is anybody going to be able to TURN THE SAVANNA INTO A JUNGLE?! I’m not even sure how Pantala became a savanna if the whole continent was covered in jungle/rainforest, but I guess it was just plot convenience. Here’s another rant: Why is the Burning of Bloodworm never mentioned again? It might’ve been mentioned, but I don’t feel like going through TFoH to find it. While yes, Bloodworm Hive was the worst out of the Hives, this doesn’t justify it being gone, reduced to ashes. Tui sort of paints it as “Oh, but they’re the good guys, so they can do a literal war crime!”. Seriously? About the war crime thing, it’s because there were most likely a lot of HiveWing casualties, and the fact that there were probably a lot of injuries. Even if there weren’t any deaths (which is very unlikely), the Hive housed 1/9 of the HiveWing and SilkWing population, which leaves a bunch of lives having to move to a different Hive. Also, there were lots of goods, money, valuables, and personal belongings that were probably lost in the fire. This means a bunch of HiveWings and SilkWings are now left with nothing. Honestly, what the heck?

Mine is going to arrive on the 28th because I live in the UK, I just needed spoilers!!!!!

i really was not expecting monster hunter music in a wings of fire video but it's great

I feel like book 15 ran into the same problem as book 10, in that the antagonist was a bit overpowered to the point that it made it hard to come up with valid ways to fight them. Also, the plant’s mind control powers felt off somehow. It doesnt quite make sense that it can control people like it does. Its hard to explain but theres something just off about the way the mind control works, almost as if there were no plans on how to defeat the antagonist when the book 13 twist ending was written. The whole “talons united” part of the prophecy felt irrelevant and did not feel like it played into the solution at all (well, not much at least). The issues are compounded in book 15 by the weak PoV, shoehorned humans and sidelining of the other main characters. I’ve noticed that once characters get a PoV book, they tend to fall into the background as if becoming adults and suddenly being susceptible to the “adults are useless” trope. Moon is the only PoV character who really gets involved in any plots after her book, with the 2nd closest being Tsunami getting lines in multiple books. I think this is an attempt to give the main character more space and screentime but it often hinders the story because 1. It deprives the main character of characters to bounce off of and the interesting dynamics and interpersonal conflicts that can come from a small group of characters interacting. 2. It feels disrespectful to the characters that people are already attached to, and disappointing to anyone who wanted to see more of them being as cool as they were in their PoV story. 3. It draws attention to the hand of the author when other characters get obviously sidelined. For example, in the beginning of book 15, I did not enjoy that fight as much as I could have because I was thinking about how disappointing it was that the author was removing those characters from the story and how disappointed I was in not getting to interact with them during the rest of the book, despite them not even losing the fight yet.

I honestly loved the book but it was so confusing. I also hate the fact that Luna didn’t even see half of the action

Freedom's life was heavily skewed and manipulated by Cottonmouth and her situation. she's spiteful, petty, rude, possessive, but she's also had no good influence in her short life. i found her to be a very sympathetic character. i would not be a very "normal" person at all if the only outside influence in my life was the most selfish being alive.

I listened to the audiobook for book 15 and the first few chapters i had 14 heart attacks

So apparently a rainwing shooting venom at you is called the “Queen Scarlet treatment now”?

I felt like the book fell off after the island ambush. I liked that scene because it was tense to see characters we know and love get taken like that and it felt like it could’ve got so much better from there with a rescue mission.

I wanted to see a possessed Sundew

Here’s my disappointed review for Book 15 and how I would fix it: (SPOILERS) As much as it pains me to say it, I am legitimately shattered by how much of a letdown this final entry was. Before reading, I had my suspicions that it might not go so well, but NOTHING could’ve prepared me for the mess I read. And just to clear away any possible confusion, I’m not upset about a specific event happening in the book or the ending not being what I wanted or a protagonist not being towards my liking. I’m upset because this book was absolutely sloppy almost from beginning to end, as if Tui (the author) suddenly just lost all her writing talent. The best way I can describe Book 15 is by saying that it didn’t feel like an actual official book written by the same author who wrote all the previous ones, but more like a messy fanfiction written by a kid who was too excited to wait for the final entry so they tried making it themselves. Originally, my least favorite books in the series were The Lost Heir and Winter Turning for reasons like the protagonist being difficult to root for or the story being too slow or some other nitpick that either couldn’t have been avoided for that book or just not to my taste. The Flames Of Hope is something entirely different. It simply lacks the magic that made all the other 16 Wings Of Fire books feel so fresh and polished. It squanders nearly everything that had been built up towards it like a joke. I’m gonna try to go through every major part that made the book feel so stale to me, in order of occurrence: I have never in my life seen a more outrageous plot device than those invisibility bracelets on Sundew. Right at the beginning of the book the team gets separated because of the most ridiculous conditions. Apparently the dragons in the lead don’t notice an ambush of 20 mind-controlled HiveWings on a small island near the continent until they get jumped by them. Even more ridiculous, apparently Sundew can’t turn them invisible because they’re out of sight because they just HAPPENED to race each other very close to the hostile continent. And then she can’t make them invisible at all because apparently she has to make the others visible first for a second to do so, and they can’t just hide behind a tree or a rock for literally one second to make that happen. And so their only choice is to sit by and watch as all three protagonists of previous arcs get taken away for the majority of the book. It should be clear that it’s a bad idea to bring back protagonists of previous stories as side characters, just to get them screwed over immediately like total idiots that no one cares about. The most infuriating part about this is that all these characters should know full well that the fate of the entire world is likely resting on this mission, but instead they’re completely goofing off until they get screwed. If you ask me, the only right way to start this book is with the team staying focused on the mission and not getting compromised until about a third of the way through. It would’ve been incredible to finally see a full team of dragons with different handy field skills working together and gathering the Intel they need regarding how things have changed since they were last on Pantala and how they can get closer to the abyss. Each dragon making the most of their talent to help the whole group get closer to success, all the while getting to know and trust each other a little more through quick conversations about backstories and morals during breaks and stopping points. Instead, we mostly get Luna slowly learning to accept Cricket… WHILE INVISIBLE. They remain unnecessarily unseen for almost a quarter of the whole book purely for the sake of Wasp not knowing there’s a second Clearsight on the island. So Luna, Cricket, Bullfrog, Sky and Wren are literally just sitting there and doing nothing while Sundew and Lynx are experiencing all the action offscreen. And this is coming from someone who completely adores Cricket as a character and usually treasures the high amount of screen-time she gets in the books. I’m just gonna recap the entire book and after that I will talk about how it could’ve been done so much better: And then they finally become visible all of the sudden and find the Pantala survivors where they have a cool reunion and get directions to the abyss and a cute baby who Luna will apparently TAKE WITH HER (she would be such an irresponsible mother). And once again, some stupid plot inconvenience happens. Two humans from the prologue somehow manage to snatch the baby dragon and bait Luna to the abyss, decide to change their minds, and then something else snatches the baby and forces Luna to dive all the way to the bottom of the pit even though she’s a dragon and can easily just fly. But this bizarre sequence of events determines otherwise and gets her trapped. And she stays there for the ENTIRE SECOND HALF OF THE BOOK until the epilogue. Literally all she does is watch a few bits of the other characters go through all the critical plot sequences without her (like the captured dragons escaping, one of them being mind-controlled and getting discovered, and them all heading over to the abyss despite knowing it’s a trap), and learning the origin story of literally everything that had ever happened in the world as well as trying to sympathize with a brand new character to save them (and the only reason she isn’t taken out by the Othermind is because the the character is cranky). And then they go through memory trips and Lizard (the new key character) tells Luna to kill her and stop the Othermind and there is a very underwheming fight sequence elsewhere as Luna plays pin the tail on the donkey while bumping into walls and then she finally cuts the critical vine and has a heartfelt moment with Lizard before she dies. Luna doesn’t even get to use her epic flamesilk to deliver the final blow. Here is just about everything from this point I would’ve done differently to make the book much better: the group eventually gets compromised and some of them get taken by the Othermind, but they don’t get to escape its control once they’re paralyzed and captured, and the rest of the group keeps going forward to accomplish the mission. Sundew gets caught and mind-controlled towards the end when they’ve almost found the abyss and uses her leaf-speak and combat skills to put up a huge fight. Since she was originally supposed to be the one who stops the Othermind and now that she’s been taken over by it, the Othermind has basically won with her power to grow all over the world, and the stakes raise that much higher. Thanks to either her leaf-speak or Moon’s mind reading beforehand, they are able to confirm that the source of the Othermind is at the bottom of the abyss. So the group knows the only way they can succeed is by going down there and finding out to how to destroy it. By this point, very few characters are left un-mind-controlled. Especially Luna, Sky, and Wren. Maybe also Cricket and Lynx or Moon. The protagonist manages to dive down to the bottom but gets caught by the Othermind. They find out about Cottonmouth and Lizard and get the backstory of the Scorching, the same way they do in the original (but maybe with more evil vibes instead of dumb arrogance in the story). But this time the protagonist immediately feels pity for Lizard and expresses it very strongly, before Lizard even gets to mention how much her life sucks. She would be overwhelmed with the sudden affection that she wouldn’t even know what to do with it, and then told that it’s a curse she has to live like this. The protagonist would tell Lizard that her living is hurting everyone in world including herself, and ask if there is any way to kill her to put her out of her misery. Lizard would say that it would be stupid for her to want to die, for the protagonist would say “Wouldn’t it be worth it, if you could finally be free from this curse? Wouldn’t this be a mercy?” while having their front arms on Lizard’s shoulders to emphasize their seriousness. Lizard would say that, since they are both in the Othermind source area, she could try to release the grip on the protagonist against Cottonmouth’s will, but only for a minute at most. The protagonist will suddenly be snapped out of the trance and wake up wide-eyed partially submerged in terrifying vines wrapped around them, some of them actually digging into them. They would have a very disturbing sequence of struggling to break free and tearing roots out of their body. And once they’ve popped out, they’ll drowsily, but determinedly, wobble over Lizard’s real body and destroy all the vines going through it, preferably with flamesilk. For dramatic effect maybe there could be plants trying to stop them from getting over, but not reaching because of Lizard’s resistance. (See reply for second half of review)

I can agree with you

is wings of fire books ending?

I enjoyed the book, and thought it was fine. My personal gripe with it is that we only got to see the Pantalan dragons in the epilogue, and we don't really know exactly how it went with the Phyrrian dragons returning home and telling everyone about how the mission was a success.

Important distinction between humans being important and humans being a focus. Sandwing queen getting killed by a human and kicking off a 20 year war between dragon tribes- important. Chapter from human PoV- probably human focused but can still be dragon focused if the events occurring are important to or involve dragons. Chapter about what humans are doing- human focused. I don’t mind some focus on humans, but it needs to be really well done and compliment a larger focus on dragons. Humans being around dragons in a dragon run palace. Good balance. Dragon running into humans at an oasis- fine for a scene but not a whole chapter. Anything involving human settlements and kingdoms needs to be very interesting and near immediately relevant to at least some of the PoV dragons. As in, it can be done, but I would need to be sold on it through quality, and I expect dragon PoVs.

It was A LOT of waiting around is what I would best describe this book. I enjoyed it, but I’ll say it didn’t pan out how I thought it would have

yk i LOVE tui and love wings of fire, but i just felt a little, empty reading this.If this is the end of wof(which i really hope it isnt) the last few lines of the Lost Continent Propehcy, it said "face a great evil with TALONS UNITED"! except, luna was the only one who did something that impacted the WHOLE story.I wish there was an epilogue where maybe each main protag of each arc got thier own little povs, showing where they are and who theyre with, kinda like darkness of dragons.

me at the start of book 4 then seeing this: who the f- are all of these new dragons pineapples relatives are probably stick bugs.

In my opinion queen wasp could’ve been wings of fire’s scariest villain I can make a list on what could’ve made her so terrifying

I just love the book, but I respect your opinion

For me, like you said, it's a correct and good book, maybe not the great finally we expsected but at least a sufficient ending to this arc. About if there will be or not a Arc 4, there currently any confirmation that will happen, but any official cinfirmation that this book was the last of the entire main serie either ! It's very likely that the main serie will continue, since the popularity and overall reception are always here, but for now, it's pretty obvious we will have here a big pause, that Tui Sutherland will make a break and work on others projects (inside or outside the franchise) to return with more clearer ideas for the next. For example, she is free to work more on the others WOF stuff like the Netflix serie or the extended differents books. Like Wings of Charcoal said, we are all far from the true end !

8th comment n i c e (Spoiler Alert for third arc!) I think book 15 is a little confusing. It’s like, oh no Luna is in the breath of evil hole, and then it’s like there’s a ghost dragon and human in there haha!

I would have loved this book so much more if Luna and Dusky didn't spend literally a third of the book making small talk with Freedom instead of actually fighting . Also, i wanted a gory description of Wasp's scales melting off because of Luna's flamesilk, and i didn't get it. I was so mad that i wrote an entire fanfiction of a perpetually murderous flamesilk killing stuff/hj

Honestly I liked it. It was definitely not the best book in wings of fire but I thought that it did ok. It’s nice to see what happened in the scorching as that has been something hinted at since book 1. Also I think your right about Luna. She was definitely the right character to pick but Tui could have done better writing her. Also, I expected the epilogue to be like book 10, where we got all the pov’s of a ton of main protagonists and not main protagonists

I honestly wish Reed went to the lost continent because he is a character who is very underrated in my opinion and bullfrogs only purpose was to give a vague idea of what the scorching was from a dragon perspective which reed could have gone over with the same amount of info because he never went to school, plus Bullfrog feels like a very improvised character and I really just want to just his emotionless sack of scales.

When you said she should of told us what happened years later like what happened to All of the Mainer characters in all the arcks like who they fell in love with

I AGREE.

Man i was really disapointed when wasp died not to luna NOT to swordtail OR sundew!!! she just went splat and i am still salty about that akshdjasdhh

Did anybody notice that they said that tsunami’s blood was blue? Thought only icewing blood was an odd color and in the graphic novel her blood was red

I really liked the book, but I had a thing that I despised. It was that ⅔ of the book circled entirely around Luna. Tui could have added more about other characters like Wasp, Hazel, Sequoia or literally anyone from the rescue team.