Ranking Spider-Man's MODERN villains!

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@FatSnorlax Жыл бұрын

Rhino 2 was a pretty cool story. Dude was hardcore.

@ChildishSymbino Жыл бұрын

I always loved the Phil Urich Hobgoblin, and Mister Negative. Also while more so villains for (Agent) Venom, I really loved the reinventions of Crime Master and Jack O'Lantern

@willmackinnon9397 Жыл бұрын

Always love these videos of you two breaking down a specific thing or making teams. World's Finest videos

@ianbruno237 Жыл бұрын

Anytime sal is talking about Spider-Man and is with Joel I click immediately it’s instant gold!

@tinfoiltyrant Жыл бұрын

3:48 Nice call back to the surprise studio guest xD. Giving that dude back his business card while maintaining eye contact was one of the coldest moves I'd ever witnessed and I'm so glad we got to see that lol.

@warioskapelli3100 Жыл бұрын

What Overdrive needs is a really REALLY good artist behind him to give him a better character design and have his vehicles all be crazy-over the top cool. The reader should be excited by Overdrive getting a new vehicle in the same way Ghost Rider fans do when he gets a new ride and transforms it.

@MrTheblock24 Жыл бұрын

He'd still be a lame Spider-Man villain though as Sal points out because his powers aren't really something that Spider-man can't easily overcome.

@warioskapelli3100 Жыл бұрын

@@MrTheblock24 true, but you can say that about a LOT of Spidey villains and even they still get a few cool action moments (Hammerhead and Vulture for example). Just food for thought ✌️

@wdcain1 Жыл бұрын

Say what you will about Dan Slott but most of his villains (Mr. Negative, Overdrive, and Screwball) have been hits. Even duds like Regent and the new Zodiac would work great as villains for Carol Danvers.

@hartthorn Жыл бұрын

I feel like Overdrive could be made into an interesting, absurd character if they just leaned into the power literally... Have it revealed that because he's kind of a doofus he never really experimented with his powers too much. Until one day he's trying to escape Spidey and he gets on the subway. He seizes the controls and, in pure desperation, makes the subway turn. So now we have a fight with a runaway train that is just DRIVING DOWN THE STREET. He begins exploring his powers more and it becomes just... if he can get a firm grip on something and sit down, he can make it go where he wants. Make it all utterly fucking absurd. Have him drive a fire hydrant. Do the "makin my way downtown" gag for real. Peter stuck in a "I had no idea what I expected from today but it was not this." situations every time Overdrive shows up.

@blueray2174 Жыл бұрын

You can even go further and have him be able to "drive things" on the z axis, and then you can have him literally riding a hovering broomstick or a little boy's bike to make an E.T. reference.

@benreilly4347 Жыл бұрын

Because of the time period I started reading, I have a nostalgic soft spot for the first appearance of Shathra. Her relentless tracking and pursuit of Peter really pushed him to an emotional limit, and it's easy for that story to be glossed over because it's couched in between Morlun and Ezekiel and Civil War

@porassrivastava8242 Жыл бұрын

Yes she's cool but just had the misfortune of being surrounded by better stories.

@TrillyThough Жыл бұрын

I love Overdrive in Superior Foes.

@Popcultureguy3000 Жыл бұрын

Hell, even his arc in Nick Spencer’s run on Amazing made him one of the more pitiful tragic villains in Spidey’s rogue’s gallery. I’m rooting for him to get included in a future “villains only” version of The Thunderbolts now, since being a hero is everything he ever wanted.

@alexlawrence6440 Жыл бұрын

This convo made me really want to pick up that book

@TheMorlun Жыл бұрын

Mr Negative works because he is one of the few villains that has good balance between mobster and the supervillain - a lot of people on this front are either trying to be mob bosses for no reason (why was early Goblin trying to be a mob boss?!) or either lean too much into mob bosses and just have a random gimmick attached to them (Silvermane when he turned cyborg, Hammerhead).

@yurifairy2969 Жыл бұрын

Kingpin worked very well as Spidey's signature mob boss villain, but Daredevil stole him and none of Fisk's replacements are anywhere near as memorable.

@sciencefantastic 3 ай бұрын

Early Goblin was a mobster because the writers didn’t know what to do with Gobby before hand haha

@sasugasresolve7069 Жыл бұрын

I love the recent villains episode. The batman one was good too.

@gregcourtney751 Жыл бұрын

Kraven did indeed fight wolverine in judgement day. It was pretty dope. The biggest importance was kraven destroyed some of the bodies used for ressurection while the x men were fighting the eternals, giving the x men a major disadvantage.

@FatSnorlax Жыл бұрын

Menace fights Spidey in her debut. It was fairly cool iirc. Pete drops a censored s bomb.

@austiningram610 Жыл бұрын

Morlun is a good spiderman villain that was perfectly designed to be a fantastic Black Panther villain

@Hot_SpicyGrill Жыл бұрын

Wayeb would be cool as a cross over villain, for Strange and Spiderman. Hell just a strange villain.

@matthewhastie8351 Жыл бұрын

just wanna comment on the Prowler stuff-- I came up with an idea that I love where the two used to be partners and then had a falling out. Would love to see something like that be explored

@Shortyd17 Жыл бұрын

Sal and Joel are basically Shaq and Kobe when doing this stuff. Phenomenal

@porassrivastava8242 Жыл бұрын

Morlun became such a popular character, zdrasky included him in life story. Some of the most interesting villains don't show up in that book but morlun does.

@comicpopreturns Жыл бұрын

Morlun represents the most successful new villain created in the 2000's, which is why he was chosen for that section of the story.

@gregcourtney751 Жыл бұрын

Yeah he's cool dont let the movie fool you.

@yurifairy2969 Жыл бұрын

Morlun isn't in that book because he's popular, he was in it because he was the most impactful villain from that era of Spider-Man. Same reason Jackal is there, nobody likes the Jackal but he was important.

@josora1654 11 ай бұрын

@@gregcourtney751you're mixing up morlun and morbius

@gregcourtney751 11 ай бұрын

@@josora1654 I figured that out pretty quickly. I think it's that they are both spider-man vampirec villains whose names start with m.

@TypicalSpider Жыл бұрын

I would love more of these for characters like Superman and Batman etc. !!

@notsosmartguy6254 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Rabbin or whatever actually would make a fun Thor villain. It's been awhile since I feel we had Thor interact with another mythology that wasn't Greek.

@joeymobb8438 Жыл бұрын

Red Vulture was such a bum that Punisher just stabbed him to death with a normal knife in the Greg Rucka mini-series and literally no one cared.

@angelking9717 7 ай бұрын

the small business insurance guy, Sal's nemesis

@lennylaserdiscs Жыл бұрын

Great way to end my week!

@jollyrouger2945 Жыл бұрын

Freak was my favorite new day villain he was a junkie that took chemicals to chase a high that mutated him that ever time he dies he becomes immune to it they used him i think a few times each time he would have a different animal defense and they’d compound i think Osborn used hammer influence to claim his body and used it for a cure all to some disease or something i think it was during American Son, but it’s been a while since i read it. very basic foe they kinda went to hard to fast with them which is probably why we haven’t seen him in an age but good repeating boss for a game, great show

@kevsil616 Жыл бұрын

Yea Scorpia came out around during the Clone Saga. Actually there was a villain named Override that came out during the Clone saga as well. Don't know if they ever used him again since

@AkiDave Жыл бұрын

Great episode!

@leebyram6014 11 ай бұрын

Kindred was super kool and spooky.

@MiguelPerez-nr3of Жыл бұрын

I always end up missing the livestreams but I can't wait to check this out. I wanted to suggest to you guys if you'd wanna do a creative exercise on what would the Justice League look like without the original 7 members? No Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, GL, Martian Manhunter, and Flash. Ik the easy answer is the Titans but that's no fun. Thought id throw that idea out there. Love you guys

@TenThirteen2014 Жыл бұрын

Great podcast ❤ This channel never ceases to entertain me during commutes and in general!

@ganjjabarsmedium2347 Жыл бұрын

Great discussion you guys 🤘

@michaelwall3393 Жыл бұрын

I just subscribed to you guys. This is awesome,

@MWhaleK Жыл бұрын

Jackpot was a hero and I'm pretty sure some people read it because they thought she was going to be Mary Jane.

@ThePongzilla Жыл бұрын

Me: Morlun was 20 years ago? That can’t be right I was in high school……ah damn high school was 20 years ago.

@leebyram6014 11 ай бұрын

Overdrive shoulda converted the spider-mobile into a Bat mobile type car... winking at us a la Deadpool!

@jlaff98 Жыл бұрын

I can’t stand screwball if not for her the Spider-Man PlayStation games would be perfect

@aliuniversal4100 Жыл бұрын

Kindred was the biggest dissapointment in comics ever

@DudeDude319 Жыл бұрын

In regards to Jackpot, precisely zero of them are villains. I read these stories last year, so they are relatively fresh in my mind.

@leebyram6014 11 ай бұрын

Jackpot... mary Jane could be jackpot with her slot machine powers now

@Zekrel Жыл бұрын

This was very informative. I now have some new characters that I wanna check up on thanks to you. Thanks and stay safe!

@ALIEN-DUDE Жыл бұрын

I thought overdive would be a cool ghost rider villain, a technology based motorcyclist that can do crazy shit like transfoming a pick up truck into a missile launching monster truck or trans to a subway into a mechanical Chinese dragon covered in sub machine guns just by touching it, picture wacky mad max vehicles.

@at9648 Жыл бұрын

In Deadly Neighbourhood Spider-Man, Peter, Randy and Beetle 2 go on holiday together

@SonGoku-TheJapaneseLion Жыл бұрын

I Loved the Batman Modern Villian ranking, and enjoy this Spider-Man too. I wonder if there are enough for a Superman one... But I don't remember a lot of new ones...

@TrillyThough Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Jackpot was a hero, but I can't say with any certainty I've never read a single issue with her in it.

@Popcultureguy3000 Жыл бұрын

I mean, she turned out to be a member of the massive Skrull cult responsible for the titular “Secret Invasion”, so if she debuted as one, she didn’t stay a hero.

@spiderghost6940 Жыл бұрын

She wasn't a villian she was a hero for the Initiative so was the first one.

@jollyrouger2945 Жыл бұрын

I’d like to see marvel foes cross contaminant more with other books like how they used to through spider-man and ironman rogues at new hero's when they started their own titles or Acts of Vengence.

@pauljohnson271 Жыл бұрын

@10:25- the point is that each villain was different. It keeps them in the moment and the issue in one’s hands. No one said “in the mix” (as you said) what is next; you just knew it was different.

@averyshorter1058 Жыл бұрын

Chasm is just evil baha blast Spider-Man lol

@bAd12cheZ Жыл бұрын

Tempest Monroe seems neat. (I had to google her) (it took me like 10 minutes to find anything about her)

@cliffwoodbury5319 Жыл бұрын

U could use the Inheritors and Morlon together pl;ayuing off each other to make an interesting story so you can get both IPS exposure

@SiriuslyBlack7 Жыл бұрын

Luke giving up was uncharacteristic enough, but if it were to hit harder as someone truly falling down emotionally and mentally, they should've never had him do an OFF-SCREEN attack on his blood family, a child no-less..That's a huge plot point that had an equally dark turn in his arc.

@brewmaster2912 Жыл бұрын

I like the concept of Chasm and Kindred but they weren’t really executed well

@turnburner2204 Жыл бұрын

I didn't have any attachment to Ben Reilly when I read, so I thought the new Jackal was great. Mostly the costume was great.

@jollyrouger2945 Жыл бұрын

Hallows Eve should be the new Jack O'Lantern, Jackie 'Lantern or Wicked.

@edgewiseCL Жыл бұрын

Haven't made it thru yet but they do include Mr negative rite?

@danielpatterson5189 Жыл бұрын

Digger looks like Killer Croc's brother.

@bigslam8068 Жыл бұрын

Massacre came back in clone conspiracy

@berkleyadams9020 Жыл бұрын

Paul is at the top

@lindarozalinda7177 Жыл бұрын

I liked only Mr. Negative. Interesting villain

@Kcoldraz Жыл бұрын

1:19:34 Yeah! Joel does seems more lean. 😊

@sandywest4977 Жыл бұрын

Spider -man enemy number one is Paul. Wait and see what happens 😎

@denalinefertari942 Жыл бұрын

I think Morlun got turned into a joke in his most recent arc. A leech totem? And then the very casual death. Hate what they did with Shathra too. So much wasted potential.

@robphoenix1182 Жыл бұрын

Thing of importance I learned....Harry is alive?! Wait what?! (Side note haven't read a story since the clone saga...on purpose!!)

@nooctip Жыл бұрын

AS someone who never liked Venom I'll give these guys a chance. White Rabbits deal is she was groomed since chiildhood to be the perfect matron of society and her wealthy family married her off to an even wealthyier geezer Her only joy in life reading Lewis Carrol. Now her husband is dead, she has more money than god, and enjoys stealing stuff that she was denied in her youth while paying her goons more than the stuff they steal. In short a fun and light hearted character. What they've done to her is sad. After the seventh or eighth time your robbing something and the same superhero punches you in the face, you kinda hold a grudge. Isn't the tinker Spidey's Toyman?

@Popcultureguy3000 Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad I got to get Joel to rethink whether Dark Web was the worst (Marvel) event comic ever. I really enjoyed Dark Web: X-Men and Dark Web: Ms. Marvel (and all the ongoing tie-ins did their job to get people interested in their main series’s, hell I think the Gold Goblin tie-ins sold me on the book more than his first issue), so to be reminded I’m not alone in that opinion is great to hear. I don’t like that I couldn’t simplify my comment enough to only pay $5.00, because in general I try to always keep Super Chats under $5.00. Nothing against the channel, but I have to try to save money for comics and the occasional video game.

@makkeonmias Жыл бұрын

Ashley Kafka? looks a lot like Looma Redwind from Ben 10... just missing the second pair of arms and eyes...

@leebyram6014 11 ай бұрын

white rabbit appeared in Marvel Team up wayyyyyyyyy back as well as leap frog... was on purpose suppose to be a funny story

@noahwolfe1907 Жыл бұрын

Paul is d list

@MrFtpforlife Жыл бұрын

I'm probably in the minority here but I like Overdrive but I've only read him in Sinister Foes so maybe I'm biased

@MrFtpforlife Жыл бұрын

My bad I meant I only read him in Superior Foes

@grassnax Жыл бұрын

Ok, I'll address the elephant in the room... how many good villains, like A or S-listers can you remember from 90s? heck... even 80s and 70s? Let's try it out. First of course we have Venom, who was spider-man villain for how long? Carnage? Yeah, he's got cool design, but other than that he's pretty boring character. Then there was Hobgoblin who was great at first but then they overcomplicated him with lots of people wearing the mantle. Who else?... ok... Tombstone, but he's in Morlun category for me, great first appearance, but nothing interesting after that. Ok-ok, I can mention one more... Jackal, but the only one who did him good was modern writer - Dan Slott, so does he count? Black Cat... is she a villain? Sin-eater... ok, he's interesting, but he appeared how many times? In the end, 3-4 good villains for three decades of stories. Not so great in my opinion. No one beats Stans record in this regard.

@briandavid7849 6 ай бұрын

True. The Green goblin, Electro,Dock ock, Vulture , The rhino, Scorpian, The lizard. It seems like the 60s-70s spider man eras defined the entire character and we've been trying to top it ever since.

@thepanelbiter9915 Жыл бұрын

Overdrive sucks. Now Hijacker is someone I can invest in.

@spheremode3271 Жыл бұрын

I think this lack of new villains is emblematic of how terrible Spiderman has been since JMS. There are cool stories here and there, but overall it's such a giant failure. Just look at Batman in the same time period: Hush, the Court of Owls and all related characters, Mr. Bloom, James Gordon Jr., the Batman Who Laughs, Punchline... You may not like all of them (I certainly don't), but they've all felt like legitimate parts of Gotham; they all feel important and they all matter in the grand scheme of things. They weren't hastily created in a mediocre one-off story only to be completely forgotten besides the occasional cameo, which is the case with most modern Spidey villains.

@toxin6922 Жыл бұрын

😀

@gedeonnunes5626 Жыл бұрын

There was this rainbow guy who weirded out people's color perception in order to make himself be invisible. Quite an interesting concept, no idea of what happened to him.

@Shocel53 Жыл бұрын

I didn't mind Screwball, but I only know her from the game.

@ShatteredTrousers Жыл бұрын

"Spider-Man has twenty Condiment Kings!" No wonder current Spider-Man comics leave a bad taste in my mouth.

@Kitsunekun2 Жыл бұрын

Spider-Mans worst recent villain is Joe Quesada

@joshuanelson6795 Жыл бұрын

Pretty much all of the villains discussed in this video were terrible in my opinion. Other than Morlun (who is still up for debate) or Mr. Negative, none of these characters have had any real staying power.

@ianbruno237 Жыл бұрын

Upsetting they made Hobie brown the new hornet one of the spinners