Mazepin's season was great, too. Zero Crashes, no teammate shenanigans and he avoided any controversy.
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
KasuKasu's season also great, PlittHD.
@Amm17ar Жыл бұрын
Mmmmmm......One BIG contoversy imo haha!
@LimitPro1 Жыл бұрын
He became a moving chicane though lol
@eetuvaisanen7087 Жыл бұрын
@@Amm17ar He avoided all controversy on track at least
@mistaTVD3199 Жыл бұрын
I would agree with that statement. You could argue getting booted from his seat was "controversial", but that decision was easy for HAAS, it didn't fall into the realm of controversial.
@forzaf1gtaracingandmore824 Жыл бұрын
Zhou should’ve been ahead of Yuki, less mistakes, good rookie season like Yuki, Yuki crashed more this season.
@DoctorTauri Жыл бұрын
He had a shittier car and did miracles with it despite the crashes
@baulbvb Жыл бұрын
Zhou was simply slow...
@samuelarmstrong6304 Жыл бұрын
@@baulbvb the, you
@jtc4119 Жыл бұрын
@@baulbvb shutup
@ethanparris Жыл бұрын
zhou was dreadful
@Roguescienceguy Жыл бұрын
Zhou deserves better. All those DNF's and he had highlights. At Baku he was properly fast before the engine went poof again and the way he controled that tankslapper in Monaco was genuinely epic
@jakem5039 Жыл бұрын
Zhou got destroyed by Bottas though
@eeeeeee3245 Жыл бұрын
@@jakem5039 bottas scored the majority of his points in the first few races when the car was still competitive & zhou was still adjusting; he scored 3 points after the first 9 races. in the second half of the season zhou was much closer & occasionally beat him in both quali and the race
@gelmir7322 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think he got shaken up by that terrible crash in silverstone that was a really hardcore experience for his rookie year. But he managed to move on and gone back to his initial form. Too bad the alfa cars loses its earlier competitiveness and during the first part Zhou was plaque with reliability issues.
@jjhh6754 Жыл бұрын
@@jakem5039 I guess we're here because the final points doesn't tell everything. Hope you can understand.
@Asuka.the.Perfectionistic Жыл бұрын
the crash in silverstone set the team back a lot, that chassis was properly fast, shame it got destroyed in the crash
@whassupg89 Жыл бұрын
Latifi in 20th. I did not see this coming
@Robin-Visser Жыл бұрын
Latifi just had some bad luck. Abu dhabi 21 he was fenomenal
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
@@Robin-Visser phenomenal by triggering his own crashgate??
@aaronyoghurt9210 Жыл бұрын
Had to mention, he was only using 10% of his power this season
@tarun1982 Жыл бұрын
@@Robin-Visser I see truth in what you say because in 2021 Latifi turned the championship battle on its head and changed the outcome.
@rodanerobinson8132 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Squilliam-Fancyson Жыл бұрын
Finally a F1 format that starts with Latifi.
@SharpesRifles Жыл бұрын
Perfection dear sir
@agent6599 Жыл бұрын
The starting grid this year
@anubis1119 Жыл бұрын
Zhou's ranking here is only associated with his points. If you look closely into his season. His team strategy is no better than Leclerc's. his car in later half season is less competitive. And even with all the odds against him. He is able to follow Bottas closely and perform steadily in mid field.And he sometimes out qualified Bottas in Saturday and Sunday.Not to mention he somehow made the fastest lap in Japan, and that miracle spin save in Monaco. I believe he deserves a higher ranking here. Maybe next year when all other rookies enter the game, we can have a better comparison then.
@z3toot Жыл бұрын
Yeah the ranking is shit, gasly did horrible too and he gets better ranking than zhou lol
@EverSoPossiblyPat Жыл бұрын
No matter your opinion of Max, hard to deny his season was absolute dominant
@cryton00 Жыл бұрын
His treatment of Checo makes him an absolute wanker.
@TheGooGaming Жыл бұрын
Most wins in a season in history right, people stopped paying attention cause he didn't get the vettel streak record but he still got the total wins record 14
@beeman4266 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. I wanted Charles to win but it's hard to deny that Max and the car were just on another level this season.
@web-slinger1814 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGooGaming 15
@jakelex1177 Жыл бұрын
true, not a fan but he had a great season and 100% deserved this title
@florisbackx1744 Жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely curious to hear what the higher high of Lewis were vs Russel. I was also a bit puzzled by Zhou's ranking especially cause the argumentation was so positive. And love seeing Lando this high up, he truly made the best of the car.
@jessetaylor4357 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely I couldn’t believe they ranked Lewis higher than George when he had clear a better season than Lewis for one he got the only merc pole this season and the only win so I’m very puzzled by this list tbh 😂
@Higomad Жыл бұрын
Yep makes no sense at all, George’s first season in the merc too.
@johndough247 Жыл бұрын
If you look only at the total points and wins it seems like Russell of course, but if you consider that Hamilton was almost exclusively saddled with experimental parts to try to manage the horrible performance of the W13 (and most of them failed, setting him back more), where he ultimately landed in average finishes and points is telling. It could go either way tbh, but I understand the argument for Ham. It's the same reason why Alonso was the better driver even though Ocon outscored him, he had car trouble that resulted in 6 DNFs compared to Ocon's 2.
@mikaonthefly3871 Жыл бұрын
He is a Lewis fan and it hurts him to accept that George beat him
@stop9273 Жыл бұрын
@@jessetaylor4357 Lewis was quicker in quali and had more racepace
@sopvp7719 Жыл бұрын
I think many people dont realise how good Lando performed in 2022 because he was almost always better than the rest but didnt have the car to fight with the top 3 teams. We almost never actually saw him on camera during races
@jgagnier Жыл бұрын
I’m no Lando fan, and found it laughable that some ranked him 1st in 2021 when he had a miserable second half, soundly beaten by Gasly. Yet, he did impress me this season. He was solid the whole way through, and I have him 3rd behind Leclerc. Bravo!
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 Жыл бұрын
Tbf he didn't have to fight others by that logic too, since he was much faster than everyone but Alpine, and Alpine had so many mechanical DNFs
@Duval-In-The-Wall Жыл бұрын
@@jgagnier Lando had 4 punctures in his last 7 Grand Prix, this derailed him and the team that season
@jgagnier Жыл бұрын
@@Duval-In-The-Wall He finished in the top 6 once in the last 12 races, after finishing outside the top 5 once in the first 10 races. Misfortune happens, but it doesn't excuse everything.
@Duval-In-The-Wall Жыл бұрын
@@jgagnier Hungary- Bowling Spa- Too wet in quali,no race anyway Monza- P2 Russia- Rain came in out of nowhere Turkey- Ferrari were miles faster Mexico- Puncture Brazil- Puncture Qatar- Puncture Abu Dhabi- Puncture
@Billiamiscool Жыл бұрын
Something that impressed me this season was the every full time driver on the grid both scored points and got into Q3 at some point, I mean, when was the last time that happened?!
@guidoguido2245 Жыл бұрын
In 2018, every single driver scored points, don’t know about Q3 tho.
@danielraeburn3718 Жыл бұрын
2018 is the only other year since moving to top 10 score points (2010) that has had every full time driver (or even the top 20 drivers if we had 22 or 24) score points. Going back to 2008, when we switched to 3 part qualy, this is the first time with every full time driver has made Q3. This season was a truly unique!
@Wizzkidwas Жыл бұрын
even more of a fun fact: Latifi was NOT the last full time driver to get a Q3, that honour fell to Albon instead
@Alex_49_YT Жыл бұрын
@@Wizzkidwas Proves Latifi‘s the goat
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough Latifi reached a Q3 but no Q2... other than that one time of course.
@TheGabyGail Жыл бұрын
Idk how you have Zhou at 17th, behind Tsunoda and arguably Gasly aswell. Bottas is a proven solid driver & Zhou did amazing after getting more comfortable in the car after the half season mark
@adamsmith4953 Жыл бұрын
Pretty ez, Zhou got half as many points
@TheGabyGail Жыл бұрын
@@adamsmith4953 Points doesn't mean anything without context. So you mean Ocon was better than Alonso then?
@hanswurst6712 Жыл бұрын
How can u use a word like "amazing" to describe Zhous performance? He did OK, not more. Their was literally nothing to be excited about. Not a single great or amazing performance which would justify your claim that he did "amazing".
@TheGabyGail Жыл бұрын
@paper plane Idk if you are new to F1 viewer or don't pay attention to details, so let me explain. The Alfa Romeo car was pretty competitive the first 6 races. With all his expirience in F1, Bottas scored 78% of all his 2022 points in these 6 first races, meanwhile rookie Zhou with no F1 expirience took some time getting used to the major upgrade from his 2021 F2 car and didn't do as good in compared to Bottas in the start, but at around the midway point of the season, he really stepped it up & at times even outperformed Bottas, but at that point the car development at Alfa had went down the toilet so it's unfair to look at the points alone.
@jessepinkman9118 Жыл бұрын
He DNF’ed in the points in Baku, he was just behind Vettel when he retired and Vettel went on to finish p6, so that’s 6 points minimum lost for Zhou
@frankmills1917 Жыл бұрын
"Performance level relative to machinery". It's there, guys. Good drivers with good cars does not automatically put them higher in the rankings especially if they did not perform well to their potential.
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
Yep. For that i do agree.
@jastorman Жыл бұрын
Agree, but how do we know a car's true performance if there's a big difference between teammates. Take Norris vs Riccardo for example, Is Norris extracting magic out of a mare or is he performing at the car's level? The car's actual performance level could be anywhere between Norris's performance or Riccardo's. This is why I don't trust these ratings that purport to be scientific or data driven, there'll always be wriggle room for the rater's biases to enter into it.
@faisholjunaria8880 Жыл бұрын
@@jastorman That's true, most of them are guesswork, and also well in this case, the trust of whoever rate this with Ric's not so apparent quality. I'm a Mclaren fan, and while I agree Lando generally had a great season and carried us, I think Ric having the worst season of any driver bar Latifi kind of pushed his ratings up.
@frankmills1917 Жыл бұрын
@@jastorman It would be interesting to know how different or the same both cars of mclaren are.
@Shoikan Жыл бұрын
@@frankmills1917unless the team is in financial trouble, the position in the team championship is too valuable (quite a few million USD) to purposely harm a second drivers performance. While there might be some differences (you want your best driver to have most chance at winning), you don't want your second driver to be too far behind. So the idea that Norris might have had a 5-10 places per race better car is bullshit. I absolutely LOVE Ricciardo, and I think he is a great driver in the right car, I simply think his driving style did not work with the McLaren. Nothing more, nothing less.
@ayyjoaoPT Жыл бұрын
You got Latifi right, that's about it.
@Dorlan2001 Жыл бұрын
And he would be #22 if they decided to count De Vries and Hulkenberg, his performance was pathetically weak. He is a nice guy, but lacks racecraft and pace.
@robo4821 Жыл бұрын
got max right too
@erospetercsaba Жыл бұрын
Norris second? Hamilton ahead of Russel? 😂 What is this guy on?
@antoniohagopian213 Жыл бұрын
@@erospetercsaba Hamilton is the one they listen to fix the car in the first half one the season. When the car was fixed Lewis was a lot faster.
@joshflynn2173 Жыл бұрын
@@erospetercsaba So do you agree ocon is ahead of alonso?
@patosentado9665 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of it, but Alonso could be even more close to the top, he got much more of the car that was really in it, and was the driver with most overtakings over the year.
@MMAli-rq8kd Жыл бұрын
Ahead of Russell in 5th Maybe?
@kakmaster6945 Жыл бұрын
Even when his car dnf'd like 6 times.
@Marcushalberstram749 Жыл бұрын
Alonso > Russell, even at his lowest he never had weekends like Russell in Singapore or COTA
@christo6142 Жыл бұрын
He also drove into the back of his team mate for no reason ha ha. The USA drive alone should put him in 5th or higher though
@kakmaster6945 Жыл бұрын
@@christo6142 Well, although it was Alonso's fault, Ocon was weaving a little and the slight turn in the Brazil strait does make it difficult to judge. Even then though, he almost doesn't make mistakes and if given a good enough car could challenge for the title.
@sandalphoncpu Жыл бұрын
This is more like a rank based on team and driver performances rather than purely on driver performance. Zhou had at least a dozen points taken from him due to reliability and he’s ranked lower than both AT drivers who didn’t even outperform their car one bit. Vettel was challenging the faster Mclarens and Alpines in a tractor in some occasions on the 1st half and almost every race on the 2nd half and at least 30 points were thrown away due to AM’s terrible strategies.
@Sigil_Firebrand Жыл бұрын
Honestly I would have swapped Zhou and Stroll, Zhou never really set a foot wrong, and Stroll had quite a few Daddy's Crash moments.
@kevinsmits1196 Жыл бұрын
well, you got first and last correct. The other 18 tho, very questionable...
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
All our lists would be questionable to others... that's what makes this discussion so interesting to have.
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
@@soundscape26 agree. Agree.
@dahorn100011 Жыл бұрын
I'd rank lando above Max. Max had a car which eclipsed the rest of the field. Lando was dragging the McLaren to positions it shouldn't have been in
@riddif Жыл бұрын
@@dahorn100011 Swap them and i don't believe Max can do what Norris do
@_qwe_fk_1700 Жыл бұрын
@@riddif lol. What has Max done that makes you believe this. Max has never been slow in any of the cars he has driven.
@jandlnicholsonashcroft2488 Жыл бұрын
I'd have Russel above Hamilton, think I'd have had Sainz higher too based on his good judgement calls but not sure if I'd have put him above the Mercs. Also maybe Alonso higher than Hamilton? It's pretty tough without all the data. Max definitely at the top though, I think Norris is a good call as he trounced his team mate in a middling car and always seemed to be in positions that seemed a bit high for the performance. Agree with Le Clerc, turn of speed is almost unparalleled but he isn't a strategist like Sainz and makes errors under pressure.
@Paulorrrrrr Жыл бұрын
Hamilton made one really bad mistake all year in Belgium. I would argue the Singapore crash was not as bad. Everyone who pushed that race crashed/slid out. Russel crashed on others multiple times and his one win was the one race Merc was faster. It was also in the race that Max nicked Hamilton out. Hamilton's performance in the Dutch grand prix was incredible and he was screwed by insane bad luck & two safety car deployments. Russel was good but IMO Hamilton, overall, was better even if the points don't reflect that.
@sigmundferd1359 Жыл бұрын
@@Paulorrrrrr to me it basically hinges on how much you beleive Lewis was using horrible setups early in the year vs having a hard to adjusting to the car. If we ignore that part altogether I'd say Lewis was marginally better though.
@shakmarriott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@Paulorrrrrr in the Dutch Grand Prix Russell matched him all race it’s just because Hamilton was further up the grid why they wasn’t closer watch the gap between them it doesn’t move
@Jay-nk6dm Жыл бұрын
@@sigmundferd1359 is there anything to *not* believe? Russell said he was, lewis said he was, toto said he was, the lead engineers said he was, and in australia you could literally see the sensors on his car during the race. At this point someone would just have to be a hamilton hater to not "believe" that hamilton was doing experiments on setup during the season.
@valazor2668 Жыл бұрын
I don't get all these rankings. George has been consistently faster or on pace with Hamilton, George outscored him in the championship, George has 1 pole while Hamilton has 0, George has 1 win while Hamilton has 0. Yet most rankings put Hamilton above George? I seriously think this is purely to not piss off the LH44 fans at this point. George had an insane season. Absolutely bonkers considering this is his first year in Mercedes and he beat Lewis on EVERY SINGLE FRONT.
@Aphex271 Жыл бұрын
Alonso in 6th is a yoke! A YOKE!
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
Alonso should've been 19th.
@gordonfreeman7320 Жыл бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 you seem to have accidentally added a 9 there, surely you meant first, right?
@nlborix Жыл бұрын
zilly boyz
@patosentado9665 Жыл бұрын
A yoke is the piece tha joins an ox to the cart. I agree. Alonso has been pulling the car and the whole team to some results pulling like an ox.
@seriousmechanicing Жыл бұрын
@@patosentado9665 he pulled his teammate ahead of himself in the standings. What a hero!
@King0neEurope Жыл бұрын
Great list. Only thing I would change is putting Russel in front of Hamilton, because it was the reality. Hamiltons gap in points reflects mistakes and not bad luck as 2 of the DNFs were self inflicted. Plus Russel was faster in the first part of the season and pn the same level in the second part. So overall, objectively speaking, Russel was the better driver this year.
@vishalrao5202 Жыл бұрын
I would definitely give Alonso a top 5 spot. If not for horrible Alpine reliability, Alonso would have scored massive points and he was genuinely better than Ocon throughout the season. Also I believe George was the better performing Mercedes driver this season. If not for his consistency in the first half, there was no way Mercedes would have been in the fight for P2 towards the end. He had frustratingly amazing consistency in the first half (coming from an RB fan)! My top 6 would look something like this : 1. Max 2. Lando 3. Leclerc 4. George 5. Alonso 6. Lewis
@James-gr5mx Жыл бұрын
Ham was experimenting with the car in the first half of the season. He also was 0.2 sec quicker than george overall this season. He dominated him in the second half but was unlucky with safety cars, DNfs and crashes. How do you give alonso excuses but not ham? biased lecrec,george and alonso should be below ham
@ksfreestylers1146 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton was faster than George and George was much luckier than Hamilton. When Lewis stopped experimenting after Baku he pretty much made Russell look like Bottas
@gauravkachru2003 Жыл бұрын
@@James-gr5mx Simply because Ham never took his car where is did not belong. But I agree LeClerc should certainly be below Ham & Alonso in my opinion.
@johjoh9270 Жыл бұрын
While I partially agree, In fairness Lewis was also that low because it was him testing stuff (that not always worked) at the beginning of the season, he was quicker again later on, wouldn't really place Leclerc and Max all the way on top personally though
@esterfon-pat8723 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of the ranking. But I'd put Zhou higher and Gasly lower.
@Destins2 Жыл бұрын
Nah gasly was only that low bc of this car.. we all know what he’s capable of in the right car. Perez was too low on this list and zhou and how Lewis was ahead of George is beyond me😂
@grencho1 Жыл бұрын
Perez and magnussen deserve higher positions on this ranking
@tiggie_96 Жыл бұрын
So Carlos had “unique demands” in the Ferrari but Checo underperformed flat out? This list could’ve been done better imo. By that logic, if Perez won the championship, he maybe would’ve been placed 5th on your list 😂
@theread3480 Жыл бұрын
checo had the luxury of driving one of the best F1 cars ever created, sainz did not
@2Xboti Жыл бұрын
@@theread3480 the luxury of driving a car molded for his teammate.
@Jimbo7 Жыл бұрын
@@2Xboti something that a top tier driver should be able to overcome, especially when they literally started branching the design philosophy to try to help him catch back up
@justamanchimp Жыл бұрын
I would have put Zhou way higher than that..
@subhobrotobiswas3632 Жыл бұрын
Excessive British biased
@magnustan841 Жыл бұрын
I’m calling it, I respect and enjoy the content you guys put out, but you underrated Zhou. Should be at least 4 places higher. He never crashed the car on his own, ONCE. He had the measure of his vastly more experienced teammate in quali and race for several races from Baku onward. Like Alonso, he also had rotten luck, from being crashed out in the Imola sprint and his car failing multiple times. Highly likely he would have added to his points tally. Looking forward to see where his career goes from here. 🇨🇳
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
Lanzhu Zhong also underrated Guanyu Zhou.
@jcoxdj Жыл бұрын
I agree. Zhou was solid all year.
@h3llbouy Жыл бұрын
Then make your own youtube channel and give random ratings as per your biases, guys.
@fireinthenight9028 Жыл бұрын
their rating it's so crap. doesn't take into account car to performance ratio over the season luck and skill sets. Haas was only good at the beginning of the season but Mag extracted some important points when it mattered, even scored freaking pole , that's alone is amazing. Team who scored zero points and end up last , last year. Plus he was out for a year and the rule changes. So many factors. Aston Martin was a crap car but Vettel was doing wonders when he could. Alonso was Alonso and done some brilliant moves , unfortunately reliability of a car doesn't let him get higher in the standings. Zhou was the only rookie in a season in Alfa while Bottas done best job he could even outperform Mercedes at the beggining , funds and upgrades run out extremely fast too. these guys should be much higher for just that matter. Russell coming 4th or 5th when porpoising was a big issue for merc for a long time. I think was the last team to sort it out.
@hkr667 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I might have argued that never crashing your cars might mean that he is not fighting and defending hard enough and leaving points on the board, but since the budget cap a rarely crashing driver is a huge skill to have.
@mattpetrek712 Жыл бұрын
Lets all pray Mcclaren can get a fast car for next year. Next year will be phenomenal if we can see lando fighting up front
@LH_27 Жыл бұрын
McLaren* not Mcclaren
@MJisAGlorifiedDemarDerozen Жыл бұрын
My dream would be to see Lando at Redbull with Max .. those two in the same car head to head would be pure entertainment
@Spaceboi318 Жыл бұрын
With a good car and Norris, I can see F1 having a big 4 instead of big 3 teams. Norris is so talented, and Mclaren has the resources and expertise, but they need to execute.
@Fredrick656 Жыл бұрын
Won’t be a turn around season that’s for sure. Give it another year or two.
@marissasturzaker3483 Жыл бұрын
This did not age well haha
@sarabekela9419 Жыл бұрын
How is Vettel not in your Top 10? Some of his Performances were unreal, and he actually had a somewhat competent teammate unlike Albon, and he was so close to finishing P11-P10 in the standings with a car that was not supposed to be in that position, and that is with Disaster Strategy Calls and Slow Pitstops
@tunisiandom9318 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree on calling Stroll somewhat competent. "barely competent" would be more like it. I mean somehow he is put over Zhou and Dani who do less mistakes than him (I know Ricc's standing suffered from his horrible pace) but those whom are definetly lower than Stroll are Mick and Latifi and they are utterly incompetent.
@arindamsaha7062 Жыл бұрын
@@tunisiandom9318 you just hate Stroll, that's it. He is better than Zhou, because Stroll can out-qualify Vettel. And outqualifying Bottas is easier than doing it to Vettel. Also, Stroll has made some really good moves in the season, but his mistakes here and there have overshadowed them
@sarabekela9419 Жыл бұрын
@@arindamsaha7062 True
@govindbhachu4077 Жыл бұрын
His first half of the season was terrible.
@sarabekela9419 Жыл бұрын
@@govindbhachu4077 Bruh, his Car was the 2nd worst Car on the Grid, how much do you expect to get out of it apart from a Few rare Points finishes?
@eeyvrcs Жыл бұрын
I'm more a fan of Lewis than George but biases aside I would say that for George's first proper season with Mercedes, next to a 7-time world champion, outscoring him on merit, getting Mercedes' only win of the season on merit, and considering each driver's standing relative to their 2021 season...I'd have to say George overall wins. I want to see Lewis comeback in 2023 and challenge, nay win, his 8th title but just assessing the 2022 season I have to say George did a great job. He certainly proved he was the better choice over Bottas.
@ksfreestylers1146 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it was his first season in the team doesnt really matter since the cars were completely new this year. Plus Russell has been with Mercedes for a long time. Hamilton was faster both on Saturdays and Sundays still at 37.
@eeyvrcs Жыл бұрын
@@ksfreestylers1146 I knew someone would chime in with this comment. Fortunately I can saying that I did consider all these points but still it doesn't matter. The points don't lie, the win doesn't lie, the stats don't lie. Doesn't matter how long George has been "with" Mercedes, next to Lewis he's a rookie to the team which makes George's accomplishments all the more impressive. Keep in mind George adapted to the initial horribly purpoising car better than Lewis. Anyway, like I said, I'm more of a Lewis fan and I do think Lewis won the second half of the season once Mercedes improved the car but I won't let that blind me to George's accomplishments.
@leonardoluc6362 Жыл бұрын
Sir/drama Queen in front of George LOL no way!
@Drrolfski Жыл бұрын
Lando indeed was amazing, the performer cameras didn't let you see perform in 2022.
@marekmasopust3998 Жыл бұрын
Imagine - taking the only pole of your team in a season - taking the only win of your team in a season - beating your team mate in points - still being ranked worse 😂😂
@ksfreestylers1146 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton was literally marginally better than Russell. After he stopped experimenting he made him look like Bottas effectivelly. He only won in Brazil because he screwed Lewis in quali. He only finished ahead because he had tons of luck all season, he only got the pole because Hamilton had a drs problem at that particular q3.
@soemoe8237 Жыл бұрын
Ham above Rus? Rus suffered more DNFs. Ham made more mistakes. Despite all of these, Rus got a pole and a win and beat Ham in points. Ham's second half of the season form couldn't beat Rus's first half of the season form. If you consider the peak performance, Rus got a pole and a win. If you consider the consistency, Rus beat Ham in points even after suffering more DNFs. And this is Rus's first season with Merc. I think Rus should be P2 or P3. I'm sorry. After I've posted this, I check the number of Rus's number of DNFs. I was wrong. But I still have to say, in this season Rus outperformed Ham clearly. Let's wait and see another season who will be the better driver.
@isaacm2374 Жыл бұрын
Lewis had 2 DnF's and Russell only 1. I agree that Russell was better than in terms of consistency in races and point accumulation. So in the races George was better. But in qualifying despite Russell's pole, Hamilton beat George 13-9 in qualifying. Close but showed on Saturday he's the faster driver.
@alexcslim4362 Жыл бұрын
Which dnf were more that’s lies
@davothedon Жыл бұрын
As much as I like Russell, I think it's a stretch to say that he "clearly outperformed Hamilton." On the whole, they are very well matched, with Hamilton perhaps having the edge in outright speed. IMHO it's the strongest driver pairing on the grid and I doubt Mercedes could be happier.
@arran2264 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton’s first half of the season form was largely compromised by a string of bad safety car luck that propped up George and taking on more experimental set ups than George to try help Mercedes fix the W13 Hamilton according to AWS was the driver closest to extracting the most out of his car all year (this is due in part to Verstappen being able to coast some victories ahead in free air) If anything Hamilton should be higher, probably 3rd best
@theracingban Жыл бұрын
mind you hamilton ran experimental setups for half the season and when the car was more competative lewis was always the one closer to wins look at zandvoort cota silverstone mexico france hungary, just because rus got the win and pole doesnt make him better look at kmag he was very good this season even got pole but i wouldnt put him above someone like alonso or ocon who didnt get any poles or podiums
@LH_27 Жыл бұрын
I think 19th for Schumacher is a bit harsh since he was much closer to his teammate then the likes of Ricciardo and Zhou. And Haas got much slower towards the end of the season when he was as fast and faster than Kmag
@zer4884 Жыл бұрын
He make too many mistakes, crash too much which cost the team a lot of money and didn't get the full out of the car like kmag did in the first couple races.
@robert7622 Жыл бұрын
@@zer4884 Na Kmag made more mistakes.. Schumacher was just too slow in quali.. Just not fast
@FacelessBeanie Жыл бұрын
Knew there would be Mick sympathisers when I saw the justified 19th rank lol
@momoiroyui Жыл бұрын
@@robert7622 more mistakes yet less cost of repair.
@bscommissions892 Жыл бұрын
Not to forget all the fuck ups from Haas that season that cost Mick points finishes. But oddly enough neither the Race or british media in general ever take that up when it comes to Mick. Its always about the crashes that get blown way out of proportions. But I’m not surprised. The narrative was set from the beginning. I hope Haas has a horrible 2023 season. They deserve it.
@Chanakya.09 Жыл бұрын
Russell in rookie season with Mercedes he should be ahead of Hamilton...
@shameergani Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t want to get hate from Lewis fan boys. That’s why 😂
@fablewalls Жыл бұрын
Are you new to F1? If you are new - that's OK but if you have followed F1 for more than 6 weeks you'll know that 7 times world champion was asked to do all the testing and set up while the junior guy was asked to focus on racing. Bet real fans will still be explaining this in 10 years time.
@yugarten8523 Жыл бұрын
i see a trend in these negative comments, 90% of them are from Indians lol.
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
@@yugarten8523 Indians and Pakistanis don't like Lewis for whatever reason. 😂
@Batman22222 Жыл бұрын
Another DTS noob..... ranting on KZfaq, What a surprise! 🤣🤣
@ivarvdk2610 Жыл бұрын
George lost 7 points in the second half of the season, how is he not higher then hamilton
@rickyrico80 Жыл бұрын
Because he is not hamilton 😶
@swl0323 Жыл бұрын
Because he is golden boy for The Race.. u cannot explain much
@arindamsaha7062 Жыл бұрын
Because Hamilton had better stats/pace in both Quali and Race. Even with a car missing pieces of the floor, he finished just 1.3s behind his teammate with a perfectly fine car in Brazil
@isaacm2374 Жыл бұрын
Because speed and performance isn't about points. It's about measuring qualifying pace and race pace. Which are metrics casual observers don't follow or take into consideration.
@alexcslim4362 Жыл бұрын
If you judge f1 that way then you don’t understand this sport. You can’t judge f1 with stats and results cos they do not show the true picture case in point Hamilton, Alonso, lando and albon to some point
@spaz2401 Жыл бұрын
im excited to see how zhou does over the years
@NerdChannelBrasil Жыл бұрын
Well, if he dont improve in 2023, Pourchaire is right there.
@greenbeans623 Жыл бұрын
TheRace getting back at Checo after he critisized them after singapore. Reason to put him in 9th was him not getting 2nd spot but no credit to him helping with first constructors. Sainz crashed way more times and made way more errors than checo but he got higher.
@99hrs Жыл бұрын
I was about to say This channel does nothing but shit on checo.
@eamartinez88 Жыл бұрын
I would've put Checo a little higher. Red Bull gave him a different floor than Max during a long period of the season and his strategy always seemed a little off other than Monaco.
@BeautifulBCHomes Жыл бұрын
Lando Norris as 2? Kind of crazy.
@bradweinberger6907 Жыл бұрын
He took one of the slower midfield cars to 7th more times then not and Riccardo was back in 15th with the same car. Similar to latifi and albon gap in performance
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
@@bradweinberger6907 Not disputing his 2nd place on this list, but "one of the slower midfield cars"? If your midfield includes McLaren and Alpine then kinda yes... but McLaren comfortably beat all other 5 teams.
@rigoaguilar819 Жыл бұрын
Russell, Alonso, and Hamilton were all better than Norris. Egregious ranking, I'm afraid.
@bradweinberger6907 Жыл бұрын
@@rigoaguilar819 they were ahead in better cars. Not better overall when factoring machinery
@theonewhoknocks2118 Жыл бұрын
@@rigoaguilar819 agreed. Norris was exactly where he have to be. Nothing espectacular to as high up on the list. Maybe 4th would be more reasonable.
@tomaslopes626 Жыл бұрын
Good ranking. Only difference for me is hamilton(6)
@lemarkexyz2931 Жыл бұрын
Alonso 4 ham 5 russ 6 for me
@ClassicFormulaOne1 Жыл бұрын
I would put Russell in front of Hamilton. Remember that this was Russell's FIRST season at Mercedes and he was immidiately on the pace beating Hamilton quite consistently. He won a race, Lewis did not. Overall Russell was more impressive then Hamilton in 2022.
@johntreherne4611 Жыл бұрын
There is a point to be made that Norris managed to take so much out of a uncompetitive car. However considering how badly things went for his team mate the gap is deceptive everything went wrong for Riccardo.
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
John, i belive it definitely is.
@christianhorner001 Жыл бұрын
That McLaren has loads of pace. It's the setup and development path under Andreas that's ruined its driveability and ultimately stopped them from achieving 3rd place if they took Daniel's recommendations. Lando would be a race winner if they developed the car to Daniel's recommendations.
@shiiiiiiiiime Жыл бұрын
@@christianhorner001 you chat more shit than the real Christian Horner
@davidruiz5028 Жыл бұрын
Russell's performance this year as a whole was very impressive, I give him the edge over Hamilton.
@iKSmurf Жыл бұрын
The fact that he could somewhat perform early while hamilton was struggling to do anything with the car shows how good Russell is and will become. I agree with you on this one.
@alexyou3233 Жыл бұрын
@@iKSmurf Wasnt hamilton doing experiments?
@iKSmurf Жыл бұрын
@@alexyou3233 Most likely but even he admitted he that he didn't feel confident in the car while Russell was able to push it a bit more.
@atharvakate5165 Жыл бұрын
@@iKSmurf source?
@ksfreestylers1146 Жыл бұрын
@@iKSmurf when was Russell able to push it a bit more? Hamilton was faster in pretty much every race
@cremilar Жыл бұрын
Lewis as high as 4th? PFFFFFT!!!!! This year proved he's the average driver we all knew he was without the best car on the grid
@DoctorTauri Жыл бұрын
LMAO PEREZ 9th? The bias shows HARD
@archieaburden Жыл бұрын
perez at 9th is absolutely absurd.
@eleycki Жыл бұрын
Bottas always started well and diminished / didn’t improve.
@DonRaynor Жыл бұрын
The Aleph Romeo diminished. Can't do well when your car does not keep up (unless you're a generational talent, like Russel)
@evanwilliams3821 Жыл бұрын
@@DonRaynor bottas did great throughout the season the car just went to absolute shit
@TheAndy675 Жыл бұрын
@@DonRaynor Hes not aggressive enough. Routinely lets people pass too easily.
@nickel36 Жыл бұрын
Bottas is an exceptional qualifier, and is slightly less proficient at racing. We've seen this from his years against Hamilton, sometimes out qualifying him but virtually never out racing him.
@griffinconaway732 Жыл бұрын
Bottas single handedly got alfa romeo 6th in the standings
@MsBloodyFox Жыл бұрын
GOD DANMIT MY FAVOURITE DRIVER SHOULD BE HIGHER!!!!
@lool130 Жыл бұрын
Theres no way any people think hamilton was better than russel anytime this year thats nonsense
@madlowles Жыл бұрын
Puttin Hamilton above Russel is a joke. Outperformed Hamilton in his first season with a big car.
@rameshg878 Жыл бұрын
Because every avg f1 knows the main reason for George being ahead of Lewis is , Lewis helping team in the 1st half of the season to understand the car with experimental setups, while George running with traditional , faster setups, and some unlucky safety cars that helped George, by ruining Lewis races like , Australia, Miami, zandvoort.. and Lewis showed he is miles ahead of George in 2and half of the season... like finishing P2 from P7 in hungery, while gorge ended up out side of podium places from P1.. and holding checo to FINISH P2 in Mexico with hard tyres, while George didn't even close to checo with same strategy.. and finishing P2 from P6 or P8 in Brazil (thanx to max).. ofcourse he made some mistakes, and appreciate George's super consistency. But Lewis marginally ahead of George. Ahh, don't worry u r not goanna understand it, u will do when u grow up
@abhijitdeo1800 Жыл бұрын
Seb deserve a better ranking somewhere near Alonso.
@fireteunxphg1954 Жыл бұрын
Russel being below Hamilton is a joke 😂.
@grammarlings6517 Жыл бұрын
Lewis outqulified Russell 13-8, more podiums and better pace overall. Do you think that Ocon should be higher than Alonso?
@recelehberger1603 Жыл бұрын
K-mag should rank a little higher in my opinion
@kevincolwell3066 Жыл бұрын
Putting Lewis in front of his teammate when he lost to him by 2 places and 35 points is a joke at best.
@bazictv Жыл бұрын
Then Ocon should also be ahead of Alonso? C'mon man, be real
@jmill1334 Жыл бұрын
@bazictv yeah but that was obvious bad luck for Alonso by anyone's view. Anyone who watched the season saw Russell outperforming Hamilton right out of the gate.
@yugarten8523 Жыл бұрын
@Viki M are you serious ?
@yugarten8523 Жыл бұрын
Lewis outqulified Russell 13-8, more podiums and better pace overall ! Points don't tell the whole story.
@thelarry383 Жыл бұрын
@Viki M Hamilton's race and quali pace was ahead of russell. That's not 2nd driver material
@iMeze Жыл бұрын
How you placed Lewis above Russel is beyond me.
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
Lewis spent the first part of the season running experimental parts. Once Mercedes stopped using him as a guinea big, Lewis started outperforming George and outqualifying him on a regular basis, sometimes by half a second.
@Heathen.Deity. Жыл бұрын
You need to take into account races 2-8 were enforced test sessions with horrendous prototype cars for Hamilton. Mercedes had no choice and it needed to be done.
@paul1983 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Zhou should be ahead of Stroll, besides that some minor changes, like swapping Albon and Perez and Russell and Hamilton.
@luigico8657 Жыл бұрын
You gave rather good compliments to Zhou, with his only drawback of being not being flashy enough. Outqualifying his teammate consistently by the end of the season, him being a rookie, and taking reliability into consideration should rate Zhou much much higher.
@Alexisasful Жыл бұрын
Swap Vettel's place with Ocon's and we got something more accurate
@momo.ru-kun Жыл бұрын
Norris at 2nd? I subscribed to this channel because of the SuperGT content. Nowadays, their technical analysis has really been a joke. Unsub.
@deeparshankhadka6402 Жыл бұрын
Zhou shouldn't be that far down
@hanswurst6712 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes he should be.
@deweberis2709 Жыл бұрын
Russell #2 for me, certainlly ahead of Lewis as it was his first seasson in a top team against a more experienced driver. 😜
@Amm17ar Жыл бұрын
I think they took into account the fact that Lewis was testing for the first half. I think he would have beaten Russ on points if they hadnt done that imo.
@Orovcol Жыл бұрын
3:49 Stroll‘s sixth place at Suzuka? You might want to get that right…he finished 12th
@floriankubatta6640 Жыл бұрын
He means Singapore i think.
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
@@floriankubatta6640 Yeah, it was Singapore.
@purwantiallan5089 Жыл бұрын
@@floriankubatta6640 yep. Florian san, have u watched TUN vs AUS recently? Australia narrowly beaten Tunisia 1-0.
@wss33 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Singapore. Where the team called Seb into pits just as he was about to outqualify Stroll, to put him on the wrong tyres. And where Seb was way faster and ahead of Stroll in the race, just to get fucked by strategy so Lance finishes ahead.
@Orovcol Жыл бұрын
@@wss33 Yep, they ruined quite a lot of his races this season
@Steezboy3000 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Lando get his due
@rct800 Жыл бұрын
This channel has become such a joke! especially this season the british bias has been absolutely ridiculous and that shows in the list. I mean putting lando 2nd and guys like Vettel or Perez somewhere around 10th? You can't be serious.
@pk1342 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe Russell was placed below Hamilton. First season in the car up against Lewis Hamilton and he manages to beat him and score the only win for the team. Made some brilliant strategic decisions as well.
@ErickNagy Жыл бұрын
💯 Clearly a biased ranking.
@jakelex1177 Жыл бұрын
I undertstood their rationale. George was great but Hamilton when given an equal chance and when mercedes had somewhat stabilzed their messy car - Hamilton outperformed George
@pk1342 Жыл бұрын
@@jakelex1177 he may well have done but in the context of this being george's first season and up against Hamilton in Hamilton's team. I'm afraid that's just not good enough in my eyes.
@flamingburritto Жыл бұрын
You said you are ranking based on how they performed relative to the cars and yet you put the good cars with good drivers higher. Alonso should be higher on the list, so should Seb and Checo. And Russell should be higher than Hamilton. The only rankings in this list that make sense are Max at no.1 and Latifi at no. 20.
@marqusdeanux5393 Жыл бұрын
I’d swap the mercs, may this be a Russell fan from his days at Williams, but I think his show of strive at the start of the season out competing Lewis and still maintaining that overall competitive edge over his teammate. This may just be bias however 😅😂
@MrLabbott Жыл бұрын
Glad to see it's not just the F1 commentators, and the F1 power rankings crew have an absolute obsession over lando Norris.
@Alex14Davies Жыл бұрын
You can have all the talent in the world, but he’s mentally fragile. Would get exposed in a proper title fight
@Plugitinbby Жыл бұрын
because he’s outperforming where his car should be? Pretty obvious why people like him as a driver.
@Luke13373 Жыл бұрын
@@Plugitinbby He has the 4/5th best car and basically had a quiet season driving in the middle of no where. He's not outperforming the car, Ric is so much underperforming that people think the car is bad so Lando must be amazing.
@livwake Жыл бұрын
@@Luke13373 it could well be both, ric is underperforming but lando is putting it way above what it deserves
@MrLabbott Жыл бұрын
So over "hE iS OuT pErfOrMiNg ThE CaR" maybe he is sometimes but I've seen him end up in the power rankings in the top five after crashing his car and it's his fault The bias is what makes people dislike him. He takes out Charles in Brazil, and still makes it into the top 10 in the power rankings. In a car that's not competitive and just sits in no man's land. Lando may be out performing the car but we don't know that because there's no way to gauge his performance cuz Danny Ricardo is absolutely terrible. Sorry if you're Danny Ricardo fan but he has been bad and has never performed in the car. When lando was up against Carlos they were pretty equal Carlos is a number two at best. Then Danny Ricardo goes to McLaren in all of a sudden lando Norris is the king of F1 and in the top three in the power rankings every week no matter what he does he can qualify terrible finish out of the points crash the car top three in the power rankings. It's an absolute joke and this is an absolute joke, I know you're taking finishing order out of it and I know that they're taking the equipment out of it, and he did outperform his teammate but that's the only thing he did. George outperformed his teammate all season! Yet finishes behind Lewis Hamilton. And yet they both somehow finish behind lando.
@_RobertS Жыл бұрын
I agree that HAM and RUS were close, but I would place RUS ahead of HAM based on this season as a whole. Yes, in the last quarter of the season HAM probably had higher peaks in general. But for me he was clearly struggling to keep up with RUS in the first half, possibly even the first 3/4 of the season, and that put him behind overall.
@atharvakate5165 Жыл бұрын
Not in the last quarter...... Lewis has beaten Russell since canada when they stopped experimenting but the damage was already done in previous races
@thememers_dude Жыл бұрын
No way hamilton season was better than russel driving for Mercedes for the first year
@kgrich836 Жыл бұрын
The bias knows no bounds for the British media and Lewis. Classic Lulu outscored, more poles and wins for George but the Brits got his back. Lewis crashed or had contact 9 times
@nathanm5594 Жыл бұрын
Some mental gymnastics there to rank lewis higher than George, GR only non RB / Ferrari to win a race
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing Ricciardo performed better than Norris last season because he won a race and Lando didn't. If you look at the bigger picture rather than final driver standings, you'll know why Hamilton and Alonso are ranked higher than their teammates.
@rigoaguilar819 Жыл бұрын
If we're going rank drivers off the mistakes, general pace, and consistency throughout the season, then both Russell and Alonso should be ranked ahead of Hamilton who had a ton of on track incidents and mistakes, even taking into account a strong second half.
@rigoaguilar819 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I just saw Fraudo Norris ranked second LOL. Yeah, nah. Absolutely not. Leclerc was FAR better, and so were Russell, Alonso, and Hamilton.
@Jaxymann Жыл бұрын
I’d argue Russell deserves the number 3 spot - not only did he drag Mercedes demonstrably worse than the RB/Ferrari into places higher than it had any right to be, beat Hamilton in his first season at a new team and got his maiden win with a storming drive in Brazil, but his consistency was unparalleled: Russell only finished lower than 5th three times the whole season - the DNF in Silverstone, 14th in Singapore and 8th in Japan. That's a 5th place or better finishing rate of 86% alongside a podium rate of 36%. Even more impressive than the top 5 streak between Bahrain and Monaco is that had it not been for that DNF in Silverstone, that streak would have extended until Singapore - 17 races in a row. The man's consistency is insane.
@ksfreestylers1146 Жыл бұрын
that proves you didnt even watch the races
@Sum_Guy Жыл бұрын
Perz below Sainz?
@grammarlings6517 Жыл бұрын
Perez crashed in Monaco, then only beat the Ferrari because Ferrari strategy was awful. I rate Perez very highly, but yeah makes sense to me, he didn't get 2nd in the best car.
@teamlean3717 Жыл бұрын
Zhou should have been in the top 9, he drove like a consummate veteran in his first season. He took all the points available to him & rescued a P11-13 from the fire more than q few times. Name a rookie who did better than him in their first season in the last 10yrs ...
@zondaboy6493 Жыл бұрын
lol
@sfrandoom8694 Жыл бұрын
Norris, Albon, Tsunoda, Verstappen, Sainz. Thats whose rookie season was better than Zhou´s
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
No way did Zhou's season warranted him a Top 10 on this list.
@FSXrider05 Жыл бұрын
How can u guys put Hamilton higher then Russel? Russel was all year long consisten also with the hopping W13 and never cryied that much like Hamilton. He even won a race and it was his 1st Year at Merc. I cant stand all those Hamilton fans anymore. And Lando on 2, Fernando on 6 is another talk we should have. Leclerc derserved P2, if he´s not getting Ferrarid he even could´ve competed with Max What a Ranking. Sorry guys but you missed out
@pythonquark Жыл бұрын
Hamilton was the slightly better driver overall. More podiums and better race pace on most weekends after the experiments stopped in Canada. Also blew away Mr Saturday in qualifying.
@alexlacl8730 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton was faster and better than him this year. Without the setup experimentation he did in first half season he would be ahead. Did you forget all the bad luck and unlucky safety he had. George had pole but Lewis would be on pole Without drs issue. Same thing for his win in brazil. Hamilton did performance that russell couldn't like spain or hungary. Russell also did more mistakes than him and cried as much as Lewis
@e2rqey Жыл бұрын
@@pythonquark he didn't really blow him away. The gap was like .101 seconds over the first half of the season and .006 over the second half. I agree Lewis deserved to be ranked higher than George but he definitely didn't blow George away. Merc was the team with the smallest overall margin between the qualifying times of the 2 drivers.
@pythonquark Жыл бұрын
@No¹ Alright, "blew him away" was a bit much but he was slightly quicker two-thirds of the time. 11-5 to Hamilton in undisrupted qualifying sessions is pretty comprehensive even if he was only half a tenth quicker on average.
@Beeevash Жыл бұрын
These are just opinions, chill man. Only points table matter
@benjamillan922 Жыл бұрын
Vettel and Pérez deserve a higher ranking
@justice4g Жыл бұрын
terrible break down, you obviously just looked at the results and didn't pay much attention to issues out of drivers control
@Kv1n5846 Жыл бұрын
Russell being in the top 5 in 19/22 of the races seems like a factor u have not even thought about.
@hankwells2637 Жыл бұрын
Some people can’t let the greats be out performed. But I do think George out performed Hamilton by a decent margin.
@daviasdf Жыл бұрын
@@hankwells2637 Agreed.
@ajestuesta Жыл бұрын
No way Lewis is ranked above George this season. George was much more consistent. The points gap between the two tells a pretty good story, not the whole story but enough in my opinion.
@thelarry383 Жыл бұрын
@@hankwells2637 the points standings don't tell the entire story considering hamilton's race pace and quali performance was better than russell
@harry4454 Жыл бұрын
@@ajestuesta lewis outperformed George I'm nearly every race once Mercedes stopped Lewis testing the car. I'd say next year will be a lot different
@antigamer1833 Жыл бұрын
British media incoming
@mikkohaikala2577 Жыл бұрын
Very British take...
@walter1824 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton haters trying to prove Russel is the better driver with 0 fucking proof (except only 3 races) Azerbeijan(he had lower rear height therefore more bouncing), Saudi(setup), Imola(drs train)
@JochoPorocho Жыл бұрын
No way you place Checo 9th. This has been his best season ever and don't forget what he did for the team to achieve both championships
@fleraganger6338 Жыл бұрын
Crazy you think it's his best season ever when he got crushed by his teammate. I'd say his best season yet is the one that swayed redbull into giving him a race seat, his 2020 season. He comfortably beat Stroll and for the majority of the season got the most out of the car, with some magical tire-managment focused drives. He has been much slower than Max, and he doesn't seem to have gotten the grip of the new 18", so his magical skill to preserving the tires hasn't been found yet. No fucking way you're telling me this is Perez best season ever, even Perez himself knows this isn't his best season.
@wss33 Жыл бұрын
What the fuck did Perez do? He drove the best car. That’s it. He’s not even in the top 10.
@Rubbellos6 Жыл бұрын
I would put Russell ahead of Hamilton because the consistency as well as the first half of the season along with a pole and race win has to be valued. Verstappen at No.1 isn't really debatable from my point of view but there may be an argument for putting Leclerc over Lando for No.2. Overall I'm fine with the list though.
@harry4454 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason Hamilton is ahead is because he was testing the car a lot and once they stopped George was beaten in basically every race
@Dwagginz Жыл бұрын
@@harry4454 Rus fangirl here and I think I agree with you, Harry - It's easy to overlook (and I have too in the past) how much work Hamilton was doing behind the scenes. I personally still edge towards George being the stronger of the two this season but it's a very fine line. Apart from that spell where he struggled, George very much lived up to his name of Mr Consistency.
@n8pls543 Жыл бұрын
@@harry4454 Both cars would've been testing things. It makes no sense to suggest that Mercedes would be putting upgrades/setups on for races if they didn't work, and if Mercedes was doing that, you would have to question their competence.
@harry4454 Жыл бұрын
@@Dwagginz his top 5 (or 6) finishes consistently throughout the year was very verstappen like in previous years and he definetly lived up to his Mr. Consistent name even very early Lewis vibes but I think people really undestimate how great Hamilton really is, he had a terrible year worse than 09 season. George is great very much mercs future and I'm a fan of him too, hopefully next year merc don't need Lewis to sort out the car and they have a more even playing field it'll be very exciting
@janineheemskerk2655 Жыл бұрын
For two years in a row now Lewis had a better 2nd half of the season compared to the 1st half. With George, Carlos, Lando, Charles and Max only getting better with experience, Lewis needs to be on his best for the whole season to get that 8th title.
@Erich2142 Жыл бұрын
I stopped taking this video seriously once you ranked Tsunuda and Stroll, seriously, above Schumacher, Zhou and Ricciardo. Also, why are you rating Hamilton above Russel when George beat him in the same machine by 35 points? Take a reality check mate.
@dulappen494 Жыл бұрын
Norris in second place?! lmao give me some of whatever you're smoking. "If there was a driver who was going to deliver a brilliant drive to seventh place it was going to be Norris". No it wasn't. Most of the times the brilliant drives came from Alonso who would then be let down by Alpine. I can't fathom the delusion of putting Norris in second place. He has done nothing except beating a Ricciardo who was literally driving slower than most grandma's at some points of the season. Ricciardo was sometimes as slow as the Williams and the Haas pairing. "Demolishing" that version of Ricciardo is barely an achievement.
@grammarlings6517 Жыл бұрын
Best ranking and analysis I've seen so far. Agree with the substantive comments. Nice analysis. I agree with other comments that Zhou could be argued to be a little higher.
@paffenberg799 Жыл бұрын
Not to sure abt Norris being 2nd and Russel should def be higher than lewis
@fazzzykahn6516 Жыл бұрын
Check race pace data not just the standing...funny that you won't say the same about ocon then
@FormulaProg Жыл бұрын
Lewis was faster tbh
@alexlacl8730 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton was definitely better and faster than him. Without the sacrifice he did in first half season. He would be much ahead of russell. Since canada you can clearly see who is the better driver
@MrAsus4870 Жыл бұрын
@@alexlacl8730 yeah, whatever gimnastics you do to prove Hamilton's worth, he was worse than Russell, end of story. Winless season too, great driver in great machinery, good driver in good machinery
@juliob.7673 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAsus4870 as a russell fan, you have to realize that hamilton spent a large portion of the season allowing himself to be a guinea pig for the team, and for the car's development, which makes it hard to use points as a fair metric.
@charleswhite6226 Жыл бұрын
George should be above Lewis. Russell was consistent the entire year. The streak of top 5 finishes kept Mercedes in the Constructors vs Ferrari.
@VirtualGobllim47 Жыл бұрын
People forget that were we see the best perfomances isn't at the front, you have less competition, only one or two other drivers per race, the worse your car is should climb you up the order
@Peran12 Жыл бұрын
VER, MSC, and LAT are right. Maybe RIC too. NOR is overrated at 2nd and is probably 5th/6th at best. 9th for PER seems to be affected by recency bias.
@manavkumar6590 Жыл бұрын
5th/6th at best? He's 3rd at best and realistically should be around 4th or 5th. Easily better than Perez and Sainz for being the only driver outside the top 3 teams with a podium and 100+ points in an awful car as opposed to the other 2 who struggled to win races in cars that were a second faster than the rest of the field.
@F1FanCanuck Жыл бұрын
The only rankings I have significant disagreement with are Hamilton and Norris. You’re giving Hamilton too much credit for a late season resurgence. He was demoralized and unmotivated at the beginning of the season and Russell handed him his lunch over and over again until the summer break. He rallied in the latter half of the year, but too little too late to deserve to be ranked above his team mate, and their points results, and race victory tallies, speak to the better driver over the course of the season. And while Norris had a good season and consistently delivered best-of-the-rest performances, he rarely had to cope with the pressures that Sainz, Leclerc, Hamilton or Russell endured this year. He benefited from a team mate famously out of sorts with the McLaren package which flattered Lando’s own performances and rarely found himself in a highly competitive midfield battle due to the poor reliability of Alonso’s Alpine and the performance deficit most of the other mid-tier teams struggled with. As a result, we don’t know how he’ll perform under significant and sustained pressure if he’s ever given a car that is capable of consistently competing at the sharp end of the field. Until then, he can’t be said to have earned a second place ranking, particularly one above actual race winners this year.
@rameshg878 Жыл бұрын
Because every avg f1 knows the main reason for George being ahead of Lewis is , Lewis helping team in the 1st half of the season to understand the car with experimental setups, while George running with traditional , faster setups, and some unlucky safety cars that helped George, by ruining Lewis races like , Australia, Miami, zandvoort.. and Lewis showed he is miles ahead of George in 2and half of the season... like finishing P2 from P7 in hungery, while gorge ended up out side of podium places from P1.. and holding checo to FINISH P2 in Mexico with hard tyres, while George didn't even close to checo with same strategy.. and finishing P2 from P6 or P8 in Brazil (thanx to max).. ofcourse he made some mistakes, and appreciate George's super consistency. But Lewis marginally ahead of George. Ahh, don't worry u r not goanna understand it, u will do when u grow up
@F1FanCanuck Жыл бұрын
@@rameshg878 - lol… I guarantee you I’ve been watching F1 much longer than you my friend.
@Gamachy Жыл бұрын
Lando Norris #2? Cmon now. You gotta stop that British bias.
@gerardogomez3654 Жыл бұрын
Perez's season was way better than Ocon, Alonso, Russell, Hamilton and Sainz's. I gotta give credit to George for consistency, but Perez's season was up there given the direction that RedBull developed the car towards Verstappen's liking
@beetrootjunkie4178 Жыл бұрын
Russell outscored Hamilton by 35 points! Not sure what Hamilton did to be the better performer?
@alexcslim4362 Жыл бұрын
They explained it to you , you can’t judge f1 on such metrics always take in race pace and quali pace which is why this list is spot on. Plus there is context to why the results are the way they are if you look at albon lando Alonso and Hamilton the results won’t tell you the full picture
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
Points are only part of the story but yeah, it's questionable. Splitting hairs between their seasons depending on which metrics you favour the most.
@rameshg878 Жыл бұрын
Because every avg f1 knows the main reason for George being ahead of Lewis is , Lewis helping team in the 1st half of the season to understand the car with experimental setups, while George running with traditional , faster setups, and some unlucky safety cars that helped George, by ruining Lewis races like , Australia, Miami, zandvoort.. and Lewis showed he is miles ahead of George in 2and half of the season... like finishing P2 from P7 in hungery, while gorge ended up P3 from P1.. and holding checo to FINISH P2 in Mexico with hard tyres, while George didn't even close to checo with same strategy.. and finishing P2 from P6 or P8 in Brazil (thanx to max).. ofcourse he made some mistakes, and appreciate George's super consistency. But Lewis marginally ahead of George. Ahh, don't worry u r not goanna understand it, u will do when u grow up
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
Oh, dear.. DTS fans are really clueless whent it comes to F1. 🤦♂
@nitram.9621 Жыл бұрын
Mick rated lower than Ricciardo, and Stroll has got to be the best joke you came up with. Honestly just shows that you pay attention to points more than what actually happens throughout the season
@michaek7438 Жыл бұрын
I can’t remember how often mick binned it in the wall. Ricciardo and stroll never done that
@attiladezso8508 Жыл бұрын
I respect that the list is subjective, but guys, you are overly one-sided with Hamilton.
@Duval-In-The-Wall Жыл бұрын
Yuki ahead of Zhou is CRIMINAL, he was absolute rubbish this season