Such a beautiful analysis of Darren Wooden. And thank you putting him as the best safety in cowboy history as he deserves. He was the anchor of a defense that dominated for five years. You don't see that type of longevity in domination anymore.

Excellent! Dallas has had some hellacious safeties! Safety is my favorite position in football, that's the position I played! I grew up watching Harris and Waters, man they were something! Love this video! Thanks for sharing!

LC, you've outdone yourself. This a great logical review of the great safeties in Cowboys history. And you did it all in under (12:00) minutes. Personally, I believe Cliff Harris was so intense that in-between games they must have strapped him down like Frankenstein to ensure the safety and well-being of the residents of the DFW metroplex. I wonder if his personality would have changed with a full head of hair. Great job my LC.

I just discovered this channel. It’s really well done, this guy knows his football. And I’m glad he gave Michael Downs his due. That dude gets overlooked simply because he didn’t play on any of the Super Bowl teams. But he was a badass DB in the 80s.

CORRECTION Michael Downs was a undrafted free agent. I 100% knew that lol. Video Editing 😠 😡! I probably should have made a tie between Cliff and Waters! Kind of felt weird separating the two! Thanks for you guys support!

No complaints on that list Logical, another great video as usual. When I seen the word Safety the first thing that came to my mind was Roy Williams and how he laid down that lumber on opponents! I can’t recall many that hit harder than Roy.

Another great list!!...I AGREE 100%

All of these gentlemen should be in the Hall of Fame. Exemplary careers all.

Outstanding! Imagine, such depth at safety that Cornell Green and Roy Williams don't make the top 5. Further, Captain Crash, Mr. Sacrifice the Body, is only 3rd. I'm with you 💯 on this list! Great job at highlighting the greatness of Dallas' safeties.

Charlie Waters would have had even more impressive career numbers if he hadn't missed all of the '79 season due to a torn knee ligament.

Wow, I don't know how you were able to pick them. I watched Mel Renfro as a rookie as well as the other guys. We had ultra safeties over the decades. You could hear the sound of Cliff hitting opponents, way up in the stands. Great job once again!

As a Cowboys fan since 1977, I have been lucky to have seen a lot of great players for the Cowboys in that time. Darren Woodson was a great, and very versatile safety. I will always remember him knocking out a scrambling Rodney Peete (then of the Eagles) with a big hit to keep Peete short of a first down. I certainly would not want to be hit by him or Cliff Harris in their primes lol. Awesome video!

I have so many fond memories of watching Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters. It was criminal that it took so long for Harris to make the Hall of Fame. Waters always had the knack of making the big play at the right time in the biggest games, whether he was blocking a punt, intercepting a pass, causing a fumble or recovering one, I always called him the Ram killer because he was usually the difference between the Cowboys beating the Rams, especially in the playoffs, than anyone. Woodson was truly special, and when I saw the Cowboys drafted Overshown in this year’s draft, my first thought was for him to play Strong Safety and then linebacker in the nickel package. Woodson hit as hard as anyone, and was another reason Dallas won so much during the 90’s. Great list. I even wore # 26 in high school because of Downs until Bill Bates came into the league. I then had to change it to #40, who may have deserved honorable mention on this list. But, I am sure if you do a list on Special Teams, my guess is that he’ll be on that along with “The Shark” Kenny Gant.

excellent commentary! matches pretty even with my DC memories going back to the early 70s watching some of the greatest players of all time... sure miss Darren Woodson!

Can't argue with your list. I might move a couple around on the list. But I'm good with your picks. Thanks. DALLAS COWBOYS FOREVER

Thanks for all the research you do for these vids! Great list! Waters and Harris, hard to think of one without the other. Charlie should have gone into the Ring with Cliff. Peanut butter and jelly.

It is a crime that Woodson is not in the Hall of Fame. He was my favorite player for years.

Michael Downs came to my high school and gave a Q&A for our journalism team (which I was not on but our PE coach let us attend). I remember he said the fine for losing your playbook was $500 which brought gasps from all us kids. The first time I heard of Charlie Waters was when he got injured during a pre season game with Seattle (I didn't start watching football until 1980). I remember his 41st and last interception. "41 for number 41" was how it was called. I remember Cliff Harris but as a youngster didn't know how good he was. Mel Renfro was before my time but I remember the controversy of him being left out of the Ring of Honor and was happy when he was finally inducted.

Michael Downs and Danny White are the most underrated players in Cowboys history period.

2:21 Just an exquisite look at overloading a protection. Another excellent and thoughtful video. I always thought Randy Hughes would have been a great one but I think injuries got him. I did not realize that Michael Down was so good. Cliff Harris, no regard for his body .... or anybody else's...

I got Harris and Waters' book back at Christmas. They were absolute killers. Great list and Im always looking for the next one.

I liked the Michael Downs choice in yor excellent video. Downs was overlooked because he was not the big hitter (he was kind of skinny) that stuffs runs on highlight films. But he was smart and worked very well in Landry's timed blitz schemes. Also, Downs did not have great linebackers in front of him like some of the other players. That was a major disadvantage. Downs was an excellent player in a "trending down" Dallas era. I guess you could decribe him as "less bulk is more".

Charlie waters if they didn't have him out of position at cornerback he would had alot more interceptions. Him and cliff Harris best free safety and strong safety I ever seen in Dallas history .cowboys fan since 1967 at 5 years old really lived and died each week age 9 1971 love our Cowboys for life .

Thanks for the video. When you said that you often didn't even see Cliff Harris until he made impact, I thought to myself, "The opposing players probably felt the same way sometimes." I would give Bill Bates an honorable mention on this list.

Dude, every time I think you can't do better you prove me wrong! GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!! It's a travesty Woody is not in the HOF and a travesty that the great Charlie Waters isn't at least in the ring of honor and probably the HOF, hell just the fact that he was big time in the playoffs tells me everything. He' probably the greatest DB not in HOF but I'm unashamedly biased. Renfro is still the Cowboy all time leader in interceptions and Waters is number 3 after retiring over 40 years ago. It's hard to believe there was a day when you had Renfro, Harris and Waters together roaming the same secondary. Thank you for your effort!!!!!!!!

LC has done it again!!!! Great video

Another great video, thanks! I would personally switch Renfo and Harris around simply because Harris played that position his whole career and, I believe was more impactful at it. Renfro was definitely a better all-around athlete and a greater Cowboy overall.

Great list! If you ever do a hardest hitting defender I would pick Harris an Bates as 1 and 2.

When I first asked you to make top 5 lists, this was the list I most wanted to see! Charlie Waters and Cliff Harris are two of my favorite athletes, I wanted to hear your thoughts on where they ranked. You did your usual great job on this one. I actually didn’t realize what a great blitzed Downs was either. Brilliant video!

Great video always coming thru with fire content

That Crash had to wait so long to get into the HOF, not to mention Chuck Howley’s absurdly long wait, is a disgrace to the team and game they gave their bodies for. It’s so obvious there’s a anti-Cowboys sentiment with the voters, that it’s ridiculous! GREAT video, it just emphasizes how important an excellent S is to a great D! I saw them all and I agree Woody’s the GOAT! #DC4L

All these guys were great.

Your best video! Your a goat! Perfect list!

Lifelong cowboys fan, we had great safeties throughout the 70s 80s 90s amd today . Charlie Waters in my opinion is number one

After he busted up his leg in 79. For the rest of his career he played on one leg. Amazing 👏

My God Cliff Harris hit like a run away train!!! I liked Randy Hughes in the secondary but not sure he was a Safety, anything from mid 70s to mid 80s cowboys keep the content coming!

You're becoming a legend bro!

Love the video ❤

Nice one dude I have to agree with all of them funny thing that Charlie Waters started out as a corner back but with him and Captain Crash made a tandem that could be the best in history Cliff Harris had a nose for the ball and wasn't afraid to take a hit awesome job my friend

You got me, LC. As soon as I saw the topic, I immediately thought "Who's LC gonna have at 1, DW or 43 (I also had Darren at 1, btw, but I was looking forward to hearing what I knew had to have been a serious internal debate in your own mind. And then? Cliff is 3?? WTH???? Who did I miss??? Started watching in '71, so I had no idea the immortal mel Renfro started as a safety. I only knew him as a TRUE shutdown corner (ask Paul Warfield). In fact, a lot of Charlie's problems when he played corner came from the opposing team refusing to throw to 20's side of the field even very late in his career. Anyway, long story short (if it's not already too late for that), I'd put mel at 2, as well. Of course, he was so great that I'd put him in the top 5 defensive linemen if he even lined up for 1 play with his hand in the dirt, lol. Great stuff, as always!

Great job. God bless America’s Team

I knew as you've worked your way towards this list these were the guys. You nailed this list. I'll just add that whenever the Cowboys defense was on the field the guy I most watched was Mel Renfro. His ability was mezmerizing. What I first learned about pass defense came from Mel on TV. FP, your da man.

You did a great job here -

Charlie Waters was my idol as a kid

Good job, although this was an easy assessment! I agree with your order!!

Thx, Michael Downs is somewhat overlooked on the goat list, but had a great career.

Big fan of Charlie Waters, but my favorite safety has to be Woodson. Luvd the way he played the game.

Charlie never was the same after that swing set hit him in the face and he got a bunch of stitches. If thats what really happened many years ago. Happened in the off season.

Superior work. Superior. According to this, Downs and Waters (and Woodson) have HOF career stats. As I kid I revered the Cowboys' D-backfield of Renfro and Cornell Greene (from the Packers). Big fan of ALL listed here, but even I was not aware of those HOF numbers on Downs (that Turnovers stat is mind-blowing) and Waters. Woodson has all the worthy stats and accolades also. They need to open up another NFC East Wing in the museum in Canton.

I just started this and Darren Woodson better be on here.

I agree with making Michael Downs #5 instead of Roy Williams. Williams could hit, but he couldn't cover worth a shlt, and to me, being able to cover is far more important than "being physical" when playing the safety position. CB Kevin Smith said Williams was oftentimes like "a deer in headlights" when it came to coverage. He just wasn't a good safety, in my opinion. Nonetheless, thanks for making this video! I can tell you work hard on them! 👍

Roy Williams has to be on there. D. Woodson said Williams first 5 years was the best defensive player hes ever seen. He said he made more game changing plays and he said he made people fear coming across the middle of the field.

Cliff Harris was like the Cowboy's version of Jack Tatum.

Great list😎👍...other honorable mentions imho..Dennis Thurman (also playes cb), Roy Williams, James Washington, ..also gotta love Bill Bates just for the respect he earned over the years...and if Thomas Everett would have stayed longer than the 2 seasons where he was a vital part of back to back super bowl champs..?🤷🏽‍♂️

To me D.Woodson is the ALL TIME GREATEST Safety the Cowboys have had. Can’t wait for Woodson #28 to become a Hall of Famer. I feel that he should have been in already, but they snubbed him his year because they were putting in so many Cowboys in this year’s class. Hopefully next year they will put him in.

This could be a top 10 list.Bill Bates is my honorable mention pick.He might not be as good as the top 5 players at safety,he was a heck of a special teams demon.I hope you do a top list of all around players on defense and linemen.Thanks for another great video.

Dude that that #5 was savage. Is there like a PR campaign against this guy. those would be game of the week highlights back in the day or like the turning point play for teams nfl films makes For what it's im a bears fan and honestly cause of ditka have a soft for the Cowboys. they retired his#89 against the Cowboys come to think of it lol. im pausing at Waters game against well if it even can be called a game. Ditka kicked the Bears ass on the Dallas staff that day so, yeah footbal.

Charlie Waters belongs in the Hall of Fame

Give Donovan Wilson a couple more years and he could move onto the list!

Could you imagine building a team of the all time best Cowboys. I'd pay to watch that.

Dallas has had so many good safeties in franchise history that you probably could have separated them and done a top five video for both strong safety and free safety.

This list is extremely hard because we haven't had the great safety in decades. Our current guys are just good players and we've yet to have a new age safety, TE or DT geeeeeeez

One thing you left out; Cliff Harris was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2020.

What’s noticed is the cowboys players at every position probably have 1 in the top 5 in probably every position

I thought that our running backs and quarterbacks list were tops in the league possibly. After watching this I'm now convinced that safety may be our strongest 5D position. We didn't even have time to mention cowboy favorites like Washington and teague

Thank you, Logical Cowboy.

TLC I was wondering if you could do a break down on the 90s cowboys dynasty the rise/fall and all of the key pieces like their all-pros and how would you rank them as the greatest dynasty.

Nailed the list, I’m curious if this was a top 7 list who would be 6 and 7.

Hard but a great list

Of course, all of this is subjective which is part of the fun, but..... I love Michael Downs, but he was a Free Safety and not a strong safety in Landry's system; those are two different things. Free safety could be manned by a rookie, Cliff did it in '70 and Downs did it in '81. Strong safety was a much more complex position in Landry's scheme, and I don't think anyone did it better than Cornell Green. He only did it for 5 years after switching from CB at the age of 30, but he still made the Pro Bowl twice doing it. I've probably said this before, but he is the reason Charlie Waters was playing CB and not safety , Waters' more natural position. Green kept Charlie on the bench so to speak- and Charlie Waters was great at Strong safety. Also, look at the team defense sats for Dallas through the Landry year. Dallas' defense was awful for the years 1980-1988. They had a line and an MLB and not much else. My point being , that Dallas' secondary was horrible when Downs was there- that's why he made big plays on blitzes, cause Dallas' secondary, including Downs, was slow. After Dallas lost Kyle, the flood gates opened. Prior to that, from 1970-1978/9 , Dallas secondary was decent to great, and it was at its best when Green was playing SS.

Randy Hughes was also good . He deserved a video clip as well

Walls is my all-time favorite Cowboy, Downs #2

The story goes that Gil Brant discovered Cliff Harris while scouting a running back from Hawaii. A skinny kid kept tackling him who ended up being Cliff. There were a few times Cliff is seen tackling Walter Peyton. It was dumb for any player tackling Walter he being one of the few players singled out as being beyond tough by Randy White. Charlie Waters was the Sean Lee of the safeties without all the injuries. Cliff gave up his head and Charlie used his. Didn't Woody and Roy Williams play together?

Downes was nice.

Maybe some videos about best defensive coordinators? Dick Nolan, Ernie Stautner, Dave Wannestedt, Butch Davis, Rod Marinelli, Zimmer, Wade Phillips, Dan Quinn, I'd even throw in Dave Campo! And let's not forget the coach who invented the 4-3 and the Flex Defense...

You should make a video about underrated CB kevin smith

How about when charlie Waters hit on that monster wr for the eagles remember watching that as a kid thought he killed that guy.

When Capt Crash Cliff Harris hit you, you knew you'd been hit.

That was a pretty good upload bro but i think you can do better. I knew nothing about Micheal Downs, nice job.

Woodson should be in the HoF.

Randy Hugjes too

Thanks for the research & video, as always. I have to respectfully disagree with your rankings, however. My top five safeties in team history are: 1- Harris 2- Woodson 3- Renfro 4- Downs 5- Waters

Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters were a dynamic duo when I was a teenager in the late 70s. They were awesome and were an important part of the DALLAS COWBOYS dynasty. Waters played the position with intelligence and finesse and Harris played like a cold-blooded assassin! That's perfect for a defensive backfield. Cliff Harris was the type of player that you will never see in the NFL again! That's why I've lost interest in the game.

Nice list but I would’ve either put Waters at #3 or have Waters and Harris tied for #3

darren gets into the hall in 2024. charlie deserves to be enshrined as well.

Woody also play kick off return if you did not mention.

💯+ Darren Woodson not being in the Hall of Fame is total 🐄💩. Woodson was better than John Lynch and LeRoy Butler who are in. It has become like Drew Pearson not being inducted in a timely manner despite being the clutch receiver of the game during the 1970s where the passing game was much harder.

You've got the right 5, but I'm sorry, Mel, Cliff, and Charlie (in whatever order you choose) are ahead of Darren. Maybe not by much, but Woodson played in an era with far more nickel and dime coverage than the '70s Cowboys did. Basically, Charlie ran the show on defense (after Jordan retired), and that defense was one of the two or three best in NFL history. Charlie is so underrated, it makes me sick.

Michael Downs was a undrafted free agent just like Everson Walls in the same year 1981. Cornell Green should have been on this list and in the Cowboys Ring of Honor.

Bennie Barnes was probably the best all around safety.

Benny Barnes was a hitter

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Cornell green

Logical, you should have broken down by Best Strong Safety and Best Free Safety, that way you could have fit in everybody! Best SS: 5) Bill Bates 4) Roy Williams 3) Michael Downs 2) Darren Woodson 1) Cliff Harris Best FS: 5) Mike Gaechter 4) James Washington 3) Cornell Green 2) Mel Renfro 1) Charlie Waters Also, Downs was not drafted in 1981, he was UDFA (along w his fellow UDFA defensive back teammate Everson Walls)

To me Waters played more like a frre saftey, but hey what do you know.

Great Stuff but u didn't give Thomas Everett or Brock Marion no Shout Outs James Big Play Washington. C'mon 🤔🧐💬🧐. Great Showcase on Michael Downs I forgot how underrated he was. Roy Williams first season as a cowboy rookie was sensational. Then, Roy got caught up too much trying make the big hit. His coverage suffer for it

Waters was always a better player than Harris. Intereceptions are a better judge of DB value than stopping the run. Thats an LBs job.

How Harris is in the HOF without Charlie Waters is a real head scratcher. Waters should of been inducted long time ago. Sometimes I think the Hall of Fame committee is a bunch of morons

All of the uniforms and helmets from these vids should have never been changed. Patriots Patriot in a 2 point stance, Houston Oilers oil scaffolding, Tampa Bay's Buccaneer, The Jets, The Chargers, and any other team that changed. None changed for the better.

Why isn’t Cornell Green in the ROH?