Ranking the Final Fantasy 4 Characters from WORST to BEST

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It's always fun to revisit the classics, and while compiling my best and worst character lists, I thought it might be fun to just rank all the characters in one iconic game.
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@davidvinc
@davidvinc 4 жыл бұрын
Like this video and what I do here? Consider supporting me on Patreon! www.patreon.com/davidvinc [0:45] - 12) - Cid [1:40] - 11) - FuSoYa [2:31] - 10) - Edward [​3:23] - 9) - Porom [4:15] - 8) - Tellah [5:16] - 7) - Edge [6:09] - 6) - Palom [6:53] - 5) - Kain [7:34] - 4) - Yang [8:26] - 3) - Rydia [9:25] - 2) - Cecil [10:10] - 1) - Rosa
@RC-ve8dl
@RC-ve8dl 4 жыл бұрын
If you put Porom's bow in her left hand with Holy Arrows, she can 1 hit any Zombie type easily. I give the Dancing Dagger from Mist Village to Palom. Use it as an item and it does solid damage.
@Cheerios4u98
@Cheerios4u98 4 жыл бұрын
since you mentioned the other versions of the game, I think it would be cool to see which remakes of RPGs you think are better than the originals, if any! Personally I loved the 3D remake of FF4. The Steam one. I heard the DS version was super hard so I played it on the PC instead haha. I also really enjoyed the DS FF3.
@steven7936
@steven7936 4 жыл бұрын
edge was better than that, his high speed meant that he could attack more often, so over the course of a battle he does the most damage among physical attackers.
@Aoishi2AL
@Aoishi2AL 3 жыл бұрын
How can you rank Edge lower than Yang? He can attack from the back row without losing damage, cast spells, steal, has better weapons, etc... And Edward better than FuSoYa??? Come on dude.
@catcat5564
@catcat5564 3 жыл бұрын
This is interesting because if you consider what abilities you can get after they die, fusoyah phoenix, edward salve. and twins dualcast make them super important in hard mode
@tomderry7295
@tomderry7295 4 жыл бұрын
David. You're clearly forgetting the actual most useless character in the entire game. Baigan. He joins your party for about 15 seconds once you come back from Serpent Road. You never get to use him, and he betrays you. WINNER!!
@rune9055
@rune9055 4 жыл бұрын
haha epic scene.
@totemlordreviews7242
@totemlordreviews7242 4 жыл бұрын
this comment makes me so happy lol
@captainspork2662
@captainspork2662 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, he didn't even have a character portrait either. It's like he wasn't even trying
@PhantomBlackStar
@PhantomBlackStar 4 жыл бұрын
Pffff-LOL
@LordNanfoodle
@LordNanfoodle 4 жыл бұрын
Kain is like, "Dude. Stay in the party for 30 minutes, *THEN* you betray them. Geez!! Didn't I teach you anything?!"
@SaviorGabriel
@SaviorGabriel 4 жыл бұрын
The real best character in FFIV is Yang's wife. That woman's kitchen has the world's deadliest weapons available.
@Npw-ln1xo
@Npw-ln1xo 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@BlueMageDaisen
@BlueMageDaisen 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the Tatsuya profile pic
@LordNanfoodle
@LordNanfoodle 4 жыл бұрын
Who needs holy swords and spears when you got a pan and a spoon?
@TailsGuy72
@TailsGuy72 3 жыл бұрын
Just beat the game last night, can confirm a disgustingly high 9999 damage output. Also sick Tatsuya pfp
@nakedjoe4eva
@nakedjoe4eva 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing worse than a Fabul Monk, is a Fabul Monk’s wife (everyone fears Chichi)
@arturoaranamatus1034
@arturoaranamatus1034 4 жыл бұрын
And Cecil want to leave Rosa and Ridya in earth. Can you imagine how hard the last dungeon would be only with a paladin, a dragoon and a spoony ninja? XD
@everthon2457
@everthon2457 4 жыл бұрын
If it rapens you wold join to Golbez and Tellah. Sorry, FuSoYa.
@everthon2457
@everthon2457 3 жыл бұрын
@Emanuel :3 well,sort of it was going to be a Paladin,a Dragoon,a Spoony Ninja,FuSoYa and Golbez. Not bad at all, i wold change rosa for Golbez,but never Rydia!
@thewerewolflounge3109
@thewerewolflounge3109 3 жыл бұрын
I know it late to respond to this but technically you right and wrong as Cecil does know white magic and possible get lot of MP if you give him Soma drop so really it semi hard long term.
@fmthebaron
@fmthebaron Жыл бұрын
@@everthon2457 Cecil, Golbez, Fusoya, Edge, and Kain would be a badass party for sure. I'd trade Kain out for Yang if I could though.
@zackwilson4607
@zackwilson4607 8 ай бұрын
I didn’t want Kain on my party because I couldn’t trust him. If I can’t trust you, I don’t want you around my party
@aidanboyle7374
@aidanboyle7374 4 жыл бұрын
The Palom part sounds like it was written _by_ Palom
@Aydren1
@Aydren1 4 жыл бұрын
Edges problem really is that he starts off 10-15 levels below the rest of the endgame party when you get him and never really recovers.
@TeamPaul17
@TeamPaul17 4 жыл бұрын
That's the problem with many characters in the game. They seem to exist at a fixed level, no matter how much, or how little (in the case of Tellah) grinding you've done up to that point.
@TheSilverPhoenix100
@TheSilverPhoenix100 3 жыл бұрын
The main thing draw of Edge is his versatile nature. Him being able to steal, nuke for elemental damage, free escape, cast blink on himself, equip tons of diffrent weapons give you a swiss army knife. To make him really good you need to learn what weapons hurt creature types (mage masher on mages, Lighting Claws on machines, Fairy Claws on giants, etc.) as when you hit a creature type weakness you do 4x damage meaning Edge even at lower levels can hit for between 1500 - 3500 damage with his basic attack far outclassing Cecil and Kain who are hitting for maybe a little over 1000 or 1500 with Jump, and even better he can do it from the back row by using a boomerang in his right hand as that makes all his attacks long range so he takes far less damage
@stevechorzelewskisc
@stevechorzelewskisc 3 жыл бұрын
Hes only under leveled if you grind too many levels and take any challenge out of the game
@randmiller88
@randmiller88 2 жыл бұрын
@@TeamPaul17 Characters are always introduced at a fixed level. They only vary based on your current level when they return.
@geniusblonde7362
@geniusblonde7362 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone gives Rosa the love and respect she deserves
@EveliinaN97
@EveliinaN97 4 жыл бұрын
.....How about Cecil? 😁
@geniusblonde7362
@geniusblonde7362 4 жыл бұрын
@@EveliinaN97 can't forget Kain either ;)
@7thangelad586
@7thangelad586 4 жыл бұрын
I have Rosa-colored glasses. ...eh?
@FGj-xj7rd
@FGj-xj7rd 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@ThrowedGenji
@ThrowedGenji 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me how Final Fantasy 4 was the first one that really fleshed out with the characters with personality and history. I remember when Porom and Polom met Tellah showing that he had a little history as a magician
@diamondedge83
@diamondedge83 4 жыл бұрын
Tellah's stats actually go down when he levels up.
@pariahdenar
@pariahdenar 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was gonna post this. It was nice though that they created a "lore" reason, him getting older (leveling up) so he gets weaker.
@akun50
@akun50 4 жыл бұрын
Iirc, it's only his strength, meaning his melee sucks more and more as time goes on, which is understandable
@LordNanfoodle
@LordNanfoodle 4 жыл бұрын
@@akun50 Vitality too, bottoming out at 1.
@Axll26
@Axll26 3 жыл бұрын
the funny thing that i noticed though, at least on the PC version on steam, his MP pool is not forever locked at 90 if you grind his level high enough. While it does take a pretty long time do and quite pointless storywise, he did end up with 600+ MP pool by the time I got him to lvl 99
@j0nnyism
@j0nnyism 2 жыл бұрын
Yep getting old isn’t fun. His story is so sad
@OmiShinobi
@OmiShinobi 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I really did think "Dead-ward" would have been last. He was better in the remakes, especially with the Dragon Harp. But he's still a "spoony bard"!
@bobsciascia
@bobsciascia 4 жыл бұрын
Rydia! Rydia is the best character. Always been my favorite.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
She's my third fav. Her, Cecil and Edge by character feel like the strongest heros.
@Lu15d4
@Lu15d4 4 жыл бұрын
I think Rydia is the best character followed by Rosa, Cecil and Kain. The worst for me is easily Tellah, followed by Edward and Cid
@erikabutler6893
@erikabutler6893 3 жыл бұрын
FF4 was a really unique Final Fantasy when it came to characters and jobs. It's the only mainline Final Fantasy where you get up to 5 party members. In addition, there is very little customization, either in party composition or what jobs and abilities your characters have. All the other Final Fantasies will at least at some point allow you to customize your party members or your jobs and abilities. FF1 let you choose your 4 party members' jobs; FF2 let you customize magic spells, weapons, and stats; FF3 allowed you to change your characters' jobs; FF5 let you change your characters' jobs and abilities; FF6 allowed you to customize your party and the magic your characters know; FF7 let you customize your party as well as their abilities; FF8 let you customize your party and the spells they know, as well as their stats; FF9 let you customize your party and gave some freedom to what abilities you wanted your characters know; FF10 let you customize your party and their abilities and stats on the Sphere Grid; FF12, well, I never played FF12; FF13 let you customize your party. Never played FF15. Anyway, FF4 involves a lot of characters coming and going without ever letting you pick your party--unlike every other Final Fantasy. When I played it as a kid, it seemed the composition of your final party was almost an accident, it was just the people who were able and willing to keep fighting. Now, earlier Final Fantasies would allow an additional guest character to accompany your party, but they were pretty clearly marked as temporary and you often couldn't control them. But in FF4, I had no idea who was going to be in the final party other than Cecil. At the same time, FF4 is also unique in the near complete lack of customization of your party. Your jobs and commands are set, with only a couple changes occurring as part of the story (Cecil changing to a Paladin, Rydia losing White Magic). Except for summon magic, the magic each character can learn is set in stone, and is either known when the character joins the party, learned at a specific level, or learned at a specific point in the story. Learning magic when you gain a level seems to have only been something that was done elsewhere in FF6, and only for 2 characters and a limited range of spells.
@curajacaster
@curajacaster 4 жыл бұрын
I always hear Rosa is not that great and it makes me sad and i never understood cause Rosa is probably one of my favorite FF characters. So its good to see her get some well deserved recognition. She gave us heals, she gave us versatility, she gave us looks!
@jamieh4086
@jamieh4086 2 жыл бұрын
Plus once you get a solid end game bow and have edge steal a ton of Artemis arrows, she is a solid fighter as well.
@numinous4789
@numinous4789 4 жыл бұрын
+1 on your appraisal of the Virus spell. I LOVED it. I can't remember how many times its quickness saved me from trap doors in the Sealed Cave.
@captainspork2662
@captainspork2662 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, just cast reflect on whoever the doors target. They'll just end up killing themselves
@TheAuron32
@TheAuron32 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, its the best spell for a long time, no resistances to it, very high base power, cheaper than most spells for a long time and available when Rydia rejoins you.
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 2 жыл бұрын
Summoning with Rydia is trash anyway. It takes too long for her to cast anything worthwhilr
@usaskjock
@usaskjock Жыл бұрын
fucking loved Virus!
@lukewahlberg2154
@lukewahlberg2154 4 жыл бұрын
If you use the right set up, Edge becomes literally unkillable late game. Murasame+Full Moon+Ribbon+Ninja armor+Protect Ring=99% evasion, twice as fast as everyone but Kain, damage on par with Cecil, back row full damage, magic defense comparable to Rosa, throw elemental damage. The remakes break him even more with the new equipment, but that was enough to cement it for me. Still, steal was always useless in that game, and the ninjitsu was opportunistic at best. I have solo'ed the end game with Cecil, Rydia, and Edge....never was able to do it with Rosa. It is my favorite game in the series and the first RPG I ever played back when I was five, spawning a 26 year long love for the franchise....
@numinous4789
@numinous4789 4 жыл бұрын
Good point about the equipment combination, but all of those items on him undermines the other characters defense/evasion/elemental resistance/etc. That is a great combo, though.
@sladelius6174
@sladelius6174 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. He is my favorite character and he is extremely good if you know how to min-max his gear.
@raf7550
@raf7550 4 жыл бұрын
@Vegesther Well, in addition to the 2 Ribbons that you find in the Lunar Caves, you can also get Ribbons as (very) rare drops from either the Bog Witches in the Sylph Caves or the Dark Sages in the Lunar Caves or Bahamut's Cave, so it is possible to get more Ribbons as long as you're willing to grind for them.
@lukewahlberg2154
@lukewahlberg2154 4 жыл бұрын
@Vegesther True. The good thing regarding the final boss was how it was almost entirely magic based, so with her high stats there I never had a problem with keeping her alive. At least you could get more Protect Rings from the Ahrimans if you wanted to, but I never went out of my way to do that. Now, in the remakes with party swapping, Zeromus absolutely wrecks everyone aside from the main party....all so I can do obnoxious dungeons to get items that barely change my already nearly maxed stats. I wish they had thought more about that.
@lukewahlberg2154
@lukewahlberg2154 4 жыл бұрын
@@raf7550 Oh yeah, I forgot about that. My son found that one out for me....he was playing on the advanced emulator I have for it (because I have patience issues....) and he won one. I nearly had a stroke.
@serenavox5540
@serenavox5540 4 жыл бұрын
Kain's jump command has saved me a number of times. He can't be targeted, of course, when he's in the air. Which is perfect for those big hits, effectively reducing the damage control I've gotta do. He's number one for me!
@chriskoschik391
@chriskoschik391 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@WrenIsPhoenix
@WrenIsPhoenix Жыл бұрын
Same! The last time I played this (some years ago) I only survived the final battle 'cause homey had jumped during every Big Bang
@VigneIII
@VigneIII 3 ай бұрын
Agreed if you get it out fast enough in when it was call Final Fantasy 2 for the SNES he can live in the fight with Golbez when Rydia shows up.
@lanegunnell1218
@lanegunnell1218 4 жыл бұрын
Rydia! When Golbez 'calls' his dragon to kill the party, she shows up outta nowhere and lays the smackdown, saving the team from utter defeat and Golbez/Zemus winning it all. That moment still gives me goosebumps 30 years later! As a kid I squealed with joy the first time. Now anytime I play an RPG that has character creator, my initial character is always a green-haired black mage named Rydia.
@toomanywitches
@toomanywitches 4 жыл бұрын
Rydia's saving grave is on par with Celes's suicide as far as formative early gaming experience goes.
@willchurch8376
@willchurch8376 Жыл бұрын
Which ironically ends up being the only time you fight Golbez...I always thought that (too few fights with Golbez) was the *only* major weakness of the game, which is my favorite of all time.
@Clad_in_Darkness_Gaming
@Clad_in_Darkness_Gaming 6 ай бұрын
@@willchurch8376I wish there was more fights with Golbez. He’s my favorite character
@willchurch8376
@willchurch8376 6 ай бұрын
Same. I would have made a real fight against him when Tellah fights him on auto that ends with Tellah casting Meteo, and another one right after the Four Fiends and CPU in the Giant.@@Clad_in_Darkness_Gaming
@dude_8434
@dude_8434 4 жыл бұрын
Edward is easily the worst. Cid helps alot in the magnetic cave. FuSoYa can heal or attack, and had all spells. Edge had blink, which helps alot... But ya Rosa deserves all the praise.👍
@Valsu82
@Valsu82 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Cid helps a lot in the cave but remember it is Edward that dispels the dark elves magnetic field, even if Edward could join you in that battle I know he could be of use anyway especially with his charm harp.
@akun50
@akun50 4 жыл бұрын
Hilariously, iirc, some hackers or dedicated fans grinded Edward to max level and his stats are better than everyone else's.
@dude_8434
@dude_8434 4 жыл бұрын
@@akun50 lol that's crazy 😂
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Palom and Porom are worse imo. But more likeable.
@yajeel
@yajeel 4 жыл бұрын
In the original SNES version, Edge can equip Yang's claws. If you equip a katana and a claw with appropriate elemental weakness, he becomes a hidden powerhouse. Try equipping Lit claw in Giant of Babil, along with Moonring, and watch the enemies melt away!
@lanegunnell1218
@lanegunnell1218 4 жыл бұрын
After beating this game hundreds? of times, I never knew this! Can't wait to try it.
@NovaSaber
@NovaSaber 4 жыл бұрын
Knives too. The Mute knife isn't just for causing mute, it also does massive damage to mage enemies if he has a stronger weapon in his other hand.
@quiethere45
@quiethere45 4 жыл бұрын
in the PSP version he can as well if I remember right
@aroundthefur1210
@aroundthefur1210 4 жыл бұрын
You broke my heart, Edge was my favorite. I do agree that Rosa and Rydia are the true MVP’s though. When you go to take the whale to the moon for the final voyage and Cecil pulls the tough guy move and tried to “protect the women” by not letting them come because it was too dangerous, LOL. I remember screaming at my tv as a young kid telling him that we definitely need them because of how dangerous it was going to be!!! Party would of never made it past the final trail without them.
@willchurch8376
@willchurch8376 Жыл бұрын
LOL Same. I couldn't believe he was throwing the most irreplaceable members away. I wouldn't have wanted to even run around on the moon's surface with just the three musketeers.
@Equ3strianGam3r
@Equ3strianGam3r 4 жыл бұрын
I never had that many problems with Edge, although I agree that his ninja arts magic attacks suck. However his throw ability can really do big damage to the bosses with the shurikens and weapons that you unequip from Cecil, Kain and Edge.
@jmarx3943
@jmarx3943 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fun video, David. Rosa, Rydia, and yang are among my favorite characters in the series. In later versions where you can choose your final party, Yang was ALWAYS swapped in for edge.
@jbleichman
@jbleichman 4 жыл бұрын
CID is a bit better in the DS version where he gets the Upgrade ability, letting you use all those one-use battle items you never bother with to give his weapon elemental damage or status effects, but yeah, he always felt like a filler party member.
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the DS version is garbage
@notme8152
@notme8152 2 ай бұрын
​@@leargamma4912 harder doesn't mean bad, IV ds is very well done and adds a lot of good things
@darkshot4424
@darkshot4424 4 жыл бұрын
Good job with the countdown I love lists like this and also doing it on my favorite final fantasy
@gzsprout
@gzsprout 4 жыл бұрын
Love your lists. FFIV and VI are two of my faves and I've loved the vids. Would love to see a FF5 job ranking from you!
@Late_Night_Mega
@Late_Night_Mega 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this list done with the GBA/PSP version considerations.
@thelightknight8165
@thelightknight8165 2 жыл бұрын
Am currently playing the PSP version, stuck in the last dungeon because, you know, Zeromus is literally a superboss. And now am wondering which characters i should pick for that final battle !
@Late_Night_Mega
@Late_Night_Mega 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelightknight8165 Any group, as long as you have a white mage, can beat Zeromus. Your party should be at least level 52-56 for him, otherwise you may be underleveled. Another tip, don't use black magic on him, because he counters it with Flare. Basically if you're not surviving his Big Bang attack, you are underleveled. Once you are surviving it, Curaja should be able to heal off all the damage. Kain is decent to have as with the Jump command you might get lucky and dodge the Big Bang with him. While he's in the air he won't receive healing, but when your Curaja is only split between 4 characters it will heal them for more. You will need to beat Zeromus at least 2 times to unlock everything in the bonus dungeon. Basically, you need to beat him with each character, but Palom or Porom will do for their part (so pick Porom and leave Palom behind on one of your runs).
@CronosZxMkII
@CronosZxMkII 4 жыл бұрын
I remember really liking Tellah because even with his low stats his lvl 3 spells deal absurd damage and you can use osmose to restore mp in between each cast.
@chamchamtrigger
@chamchamtrigger 4 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Edge. Maybe it's because of my leveling habits in this game, but Rydia always dies after the first big bang when I fight Zeromus so I usually have to leave her dead since it's practically a waste of a turn reviving her. Don't get me wrong. I like Rydia. It's just that I get more use out of Edge in the final battle since he doesn't die as quickly. Maybe I still have a lot to learn despite FF4 being my favorite of the FF games.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Edge is awesome
@derkik
@derkik 4 жыл бұрын
The bomb dot com, huh? That gave me a chuckle.
@JustPlainLuckyTV
@JustPlainLuckyTV 4 жыл бұрын
Monks are my favorite class in any Final Fantasy, and I gotta agree with you, Yang would have carried the team even harder if you could swap him out for Edge.
@frogflare6164
@frogflare6164 4 жыл бұрын
I recently stumbled upon this channel. I really like these "ranked party member" videos as well as your top 10 over powered party member videos. Hope to see more!
@raina1848
@raina1848 3 жыл бұрын
You see, the reason why using Meteo killed Tellah and why people in the game kept saying it was too dangerous for him to use was because he only has 90 MP, and that isn't enough points to actually cast the spell. So, he broke the natural law of magic. XD
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 2 жыл бұрын
Did Tellah actually die? I thought he came back like everyone else
@andrewscroggy3101
@andrewscroggy3101 4 жыл бұрын
You have made quarantine much more enjoyable. Thank you for your videos and uplifting attitude. Stay safe friend
@fh666
@fh666 4 жыл бұрын
What a gem of a channel! Pretty awesome content. It's awesome to remember the games i used to play so much back then. Subscribed!
@davidvinc
@davidvinc 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@Parallelepiped2
@Parallelepiped2 4 жыл бұрын
It was fun to see your ranking. I’ve only played through this game once. I remember being especially fond of Cecil
@golbex
@golbex 4 жыл бұрын
Edge does seem to die super easily, but he has one saving grace - Throw. As long as money is no object to you (should have plenty of it at the endgame), stock up on Shurikens and Throw like nobody's business. If inventory space is an issue, just carry extras in Fat Choco and keep a couple Whistles handy. : )
@jaykknight2248
@jaykknight2248 4 жыл бұрын
I love Rydia. And virus is one of my.favorite spells of all time. The sound effect from the snes version is one of my favorites of all time also!
@ThePigKnight
@ThePigKnight 4 жыл бұрын
I think Tellah is actually pretty good. Mostly because of his support in the early game.
@valiantparagonvideos2383
@valiantparagonvideos2383 4 жыл бұрын
I think the two you really underrated are Tellah and Edge. Edge does require some min-maxing to get the full potential out of, but there's a reason he's the character (last I saw) used for glitchless speed runs. Tellah has an MP problem and bad stats, this is true, and by the end of his tenue you're starting to feel his lack of statistical acumen, but after Cecil's class change he's a beast simply because he has access to those high level spells way before they're "supposed" to be there. He one shots Cagnazzo and trashes difficult normal encounters with Bio and 3rd level spells. MP can be pretty easily dealt with either with a couple Ethers (they're not THAT rare and camp sites are pretty common) or Osmose on the weaker encounters. It's true that, with equivalent spells both Palom and Rydia (and Fusoya, IIRC) blow him out of the water, but he's a big fish in a small pond and one of the most valuable characters in the game while he's in the party. But yeah Cecil,Rosa, Rydia are great. and would be my top three as well.
@kathycoleman4648
@kathycoleman4648 4 жыл бұрын
FuSoYa exists for one sole reason when he is in your party. You want to go and unlock the Bahamut summon for Rydia while he is there. If you do this, you have FuSoYa and Rosa to cast Wall before the timer goes down.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Interesting. Thanks for the tip.
@AWPerative
@AWPerative 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on about Yang and Edge. If I hadn't actually sold stuff I could just use Edge to throw items but Yang is far more useful in that he hits harder
@Paul_McSeol
@Paul_McSeol 4 жыл бұрын
My friends and I used to argue over this and 6 and which was better. I always loved 4 and Yang is amazing. Kick just made him a one man wrecking crew. Also, Edward kind of grew on me.
@matsujonen
@matsujonen 4 жыл бұрын
4 is great but 6 is amazing.
@jalalEldeen
@jalalEldeen 2 жыл бұрын
God, Rosa was a broken character, Feels like she is the leader of the team. Definitely controls every single battle. Rather than the support she gives, at the last dungeon of the game her damage was greater more than any other character because of the bow killer she carried, as this weapon kills dragons so easily. Thank god Cecil didn't leave her on earth, without her the game would be so hard, she was a whole carry. I agree with your list 100%
@joshblaster1653
@joshblaster1653 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos man! Do the after years if you want!
@theleftfootedsultan
@theleftfootedsultan 4 жыл бұрын
You know, the Final Fantasy IV Free Enterprise randomizer actually allows you to have these debates as to what characters to run.
@anntick9797
@anntick9797 3 жыл бұрын
The truth is however that Edge is a real beast in this game. He comes already equipped with the Green Beret and Black Belt which grant him +10 STR and +10 CON, making him dish out and tank really good in the beginning. The mistake that many make is to "upgrade" his equipment according to defense or evasion. This does little to his tanking abilities but kills his offense. Even the Black Garb isn't all that hot. Only +3 AGI is a weak stat boost as are the extra stats of Murasame and Masamune (c'mon - stats!). His final equipment is the worst compared to the rest. But if you stick with the Green Beret, change it for the Black Cowl on levels when higher agility gives a higher damage multiplier, keep the Black Belt until the very first Behemoth battle in the game drops the Power Sash (emulator quick save is your friend) and give him the Giant's Gloves which you can obtain before Edge joins, you have a juggernaut of a character who single-handedly carries you through the mid-game and parts of the late game. Add to this the fact that Edge with claws being bad is a meme. Why? Yang's damage calculation is different from every character in the game which means Yang doesn't need damage from weapons to have attack power. If you equip Edge who has regular damage calculation with two claws he will naturally suck. What happens when you combine a katana/throwing weapon with a claw? Sure your attack damage drops. But you reap elemental weaknesses just like Yang. And with the following set-up Edge has +20 STR AND +20 CON. Green Beret Black Belt Giant's Gloves. As mentioned, tag in the Black Cowl if it augments your multiplier. Then when the Power Sash becomes available his stats from armor change to: Green Beret +5 STR +5 CON Power Sash +15 STR Giant's Gloves +10 STR +10 CON +30 STR +15 CON! THAT'S ALMOST 4 DAMAGE MULTIPLIER FROM ARMOR ALONE! This is the reason why Yang is generally heralded while Edge is being forgotten. They are both ambidextrous, apart from that they are mirrors in the hp, attack power, and damage multiplier department. Yang has high hp and multiplier but low attack damage, Edge is the reverse. FF IV is a game where the damage multiplier defines your offensive potential way more than your attack damage! Edge naturally skews towards more than 200 attack power with Murasame/Masamune/Sasuke's Katana/Mutsunokami but poor strenght kills his damage output. 59 natural strength at level 70 is ridiculous. My aforementioned set-up kills his defense, especially magically. But his supposed late game attire like Genji stuff and the Black Garb only raises his tanking abilities by a small margin while killing his offense. The +20 STR/+30 STR from armor configuration with a katana/throwing weapon and claw for susceptible type appliance is rad baller to the max. Combined with haste and berserk? Unbelievable. Versus Asura with the Kikoichimonji and Mage Masher you say? Edge can end her in 4 hits. Edge becomes the replacement Yang of the game. Throwing weapons (use them in front row, we want max. damage) give him one edge over Yang. Till you get Excalibur, Edge is your main dps character of the final five. Wicked Mask's can eat Masamune+Thunder Claw. I might post more when someone responds to this.
@willh1655
@willh1655 2 жыл бұрын
you are100% correct. people don't know how to use him. he is the most damaging character against a single enemy by far. At end game he should be attacking for as much as Cecil or more. his last 2 katanas suck. a claw and fullmoon are better.
@EX1515
@EX1515 Жыл бұрын
I’m replaying FFIV (PSP version) and Tellah really got on my nerves when he rejoined my party the 2nd time. That 90 MP cap and his other stats getting weaker as he leveled up was painful. I was so glad when he finally left my party.
@NRBourassa
@NRBourassa 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, you finally mentioned Cid's Earth Hammer. Using it as an item was always awesome
@davidvinc
@davidvinc 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that you get it one floor before the Magus sisters, and then once you beat them Cid leaves the party pretty much immediately afterwards.
@NRBourassa
@NRBourassa 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidvinc that is a problem. For some reason I remembered it being a bigger deal. I guess I just thought it was that cool as a kid. 🤷‍♂️
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
What does it do?
@NRBourassa
@NRBourassa 3 жыл бұрын
@@jc.1191 when used as an item it casts Quake. It has unlimited uses, and doesn't cost any MP.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
@@NRBourassa Cool. Thanks
@ambervalkerie9134
@ambervalkerie9134 4 жыл бұрын
ff4 is still my fav ff game, ppl going on for ff7 of ff6 but me ff4 all the way
@N3rd_House
@N3rd_House 4 жыл бұрын
I have never, ever heard of a dragoon being referred to as a tank. They are purely a damage-dealing class. "Kain can just attack and jump, he's very one-note." BECAUSE HE'S A DAMAGE DEALER.
@aleksander8057
@aleksander8057 4 жыл бұрын
A ranking of Characters of Suikoden 1 and 2 would be amazing
@lanegunnell1218
@lanegunnell1218 4 жыл бұрын
ALL characters ;)
@mattsumner9157
@mattsumner9157 4 жыл бұрын
my all time favorite game. ive played snes ps1 ds and psp versions lol. even on board for a ps5 full 3d remake lol. great analysis on the characters!!!! love the channel!
@dude_8434
@dude_8434 4 жыл бұрын
Try gba, it's awesome.
@lanegunnell1218
@lanegunnell1218 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I've played all versions of it and this vid makes me wanna replay again (for the umpteenth time). Other games may be objectively better, but this game is easily my all-time favorite.
@MetalGearRaxis
@MetalGearRaxis 4 жыл бұрын
I actually thought this was an interesting video from a contextual standpoint, nicely done.
@Seegtease
@Seegtease 4 жыл бұрын
Most were spot on. Agree with Cid being hot garbage as Edward not being worse. I'd personally do Rydia > Cecil > Kain > Rosa though. Rosa does paltry damage with her bows, and unless you need healing, that's all she does. Holy is too expensive to use often and you need to save yer MP for healing. She just has too many wasted turns. Kain and Cecil may be physical only, but they always contribute every round. They account for a lot of the damage. Virus is a great spell and Rydia can pretty much always cast it. She also can steal MP to keep the supply up. Flare is also a fast cast, and Bahamut is solid when reflect is an issue. Even if she runs out, she has useful rods to use as items. From the original rod, ice rod, and eventually the Stardust rod, she has good free options (better than Rosa's). She can even heal with Summons. That's why I think she deserves top place.
@RedYDG
@RedYDG 2 ай бұрын
My favorite part about Kain is that he leaves the party the most. I also like his battle command that makes him leave more when he jumps away.
@Rokabur
@Rokabur 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care how bad Cid is considered, I've always loved his character and attitude.
@halestorm_01
@halestorm_01 4 жыл бұрын
Last year I did a solo Cecil run of this game. I'll acknowledge how essential Rosa can be, but It's doable without her
@stephaniegifford5932
@stephaniegifford5932 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing the title, starting the video and preparing myself for the Cid rant 😂
@HybridAngelZero
@HybridAngelZero 4 жыл бұрын
I actually never knew Slow worked on most enemies! I'm so used to the other FF games where status effects never seem to work xD Also, I think one thing that drags down a lot of FFIV's cast is that, for most of them, the only end result of their abilities is "do damage", which isn't bad per se, but it just means the best damage dealer is simply the winner
@tek512
@tek512 4 жыл бұрын
Greatly undereatimating Tellah. He will end pretty much every random encounter with a single spell. Yeah, his MP sucks, but I defy you to say his mere presence doesn't make Cagnazzo a joke. As for FuSoYa, the spells you should be using on the CPU ignore wall anyway.
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH 4 жыл бұрын
Zombies: Osmose? Oh, you're going to surrender your MP to us? Okay then, sure thing!
@somerandomladonyoutube3618
@somerandomladonyoutube3618 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@SethWilson
@SethWilson 4 жыл бұрын
3:02 I love how you say Mount Koltz from FF6 instead of Mount Hobbs. So easy to get those generic mountain dungeons mixed up.
@BrownStore
@BrownStore 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waaaaaaaiting for this episode.
@EdreesesPieces
@EdreesesPieces 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Tellah-ing it like it is, David
@291Andrew
@291Andrew Жыл бұрын
Great video! What version of the game are you playing?
@7thangelad586
@7thangelad586 4 жыл бұрын
I just automatically liked because it’s FFIV. I’m probably not even going to split hairs over the verdict. I love the entire cast in spite (and because) of their flaws.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@grumblekin
@grumblekin 2 жыл бұрын
I like Edge but only because of Dart. You can get easy damage that way. I love FF4…it’s my favorite of all of them. Excellent video!
@jackimus8987
@jackimus8987 4 жыл бұрын
Edge can use claws, y'know? if you're willing to micromanage his weapons a bit no other character can match him in speed and damage. He also has a dirt cheap image spell, which combined with his speed, mean he'll never take a physical strike ever unless you're being lazy or just holding A through everything. He should easily be top dog here lol rest of the list is pretty spot on in terms of order.
@SuperLumianaire
@SuperLumianaire 4 жыл бұрын
FoSoYa: I have black and white magic. Me: Do regen. FoSoYa: But, Me: REGEN!
@givecamichips
@givecamichips 4 жыл бұрын
Kain actually didn't add very much to my party when he comes back for endgame. Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, and Edge worked really well and all filled a nice role. It felt like having a good party from Final Fantasy 1. The Kain comes back and is basically just a physical attacker who is weaker than Cecil, slower than Edge, and doesn't have a useful gimmick like magic or dual wielding. He's just there, adding a thousand physical damage. It threw off my super tight team rhythm when he first joined. FuSoYa is similar, but he saves Rosa MP and can throw on another Haste or Slow or even Stop in desperation mode. Note: this experience is from the GBA version
@fmthebaron
@fmthebaron Жыл бұрын
Yeah Kain was pretty useless. I'd rather have Yang or Fusoya in the party if there was the choice.
@benangotti3281
@benangotti3281 Жыл бұрын
Kain, Rydia and Edge were my favorite characters growing up, simply because they looked cool and had some of the best story arcs. That being said, I cannot argue with this list in the least. I mean imagine doing any part of the story featuring Rosa without her. You couldn't.
@nathanieldonley5502
@nathanieldonley5502 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! The first RPG I ever completed, when I was 7. (With help from my 15yo brother)
@natelandry498
@natelandry498 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this game on the SNES. What versions are those cut scenes from? I need to play that version.
@hvhs01
@hvhs01 Жыл бұрын
While I do agree about some of Edge's issues, if you equip a throwing weapon in his other hand you can keep him in the back row and not lose any attack due to a bug, and with the masamune for haste, he is pretty good. Also don't under estimate throw's usefulness.
@oofley8346
@oofley8346 3 жыл бұрын
Cecil works better with his 3D spellset. Raise, Protect, and Shell give him a helluva lot more utility - especially since damage reduction magic is pretty much required in that version and those two can be multitargeted.
@angrycinnabon2956
@angrycinnabon2956 4 жыл бұрын
Rydia is a great character, I can agree with that, she goes through so many emotional hurdles to help her allies, even the one that killed her mother, and still does after the events of the Leviathan attack she still decided once she was at her prime she'd go straight to help Cecil again, never forgetting the father figure she had And ultimately saving him and basically everyone else in the process. Don't let the skimpy garb fool you she's not a two dimensional fan service character.
@mickspears0
@mickspears0 4 жыл бұрын
I agree Rosa is very useful
@veejonesify
@veejonesify 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Rosa was always my favourite.
@Matt620
@Matt620 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do The After Years? I’d love to see your opinion on that one
@dungeonscrew491
@dungeonscrew491 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, what was that ps1-esc thing in the outro? Was that like a ffiv anniversary edition or something? Ik 1 2 5 and 6 got on ps1 bu lt did 4 do it too?
@dude_8434
@dude_8434 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, FF 4 + crono trigger on FF Chronicles PS1
@FGj-xj7rd
@FGj-xj7rd 3 жыл бұрын
For me, the coolest part for Rosa is her learning Holy as her final spell.
@mrmacross
@mrmacross 6 ай бұрын
Feel Edge us underrated. If you do the weapon duplication glitch, his throw attack becomes the best reliable physical attack in the game. Even without duplicating, he's generally better than Kain in the final battle because you can throw every weapon you have. Late game, his smoke ability really helps with the grind and random encounters (his speed also makes casting it faster than the exit spells). Stealing is a bit underwhelming in FF4, though.
@dassadec
@dassadec 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh I'm gonna have something to say about this I'm sure FF4 is my love
@SeifellAlmancht
@SeifellAlmancht 4 жыл бұрын
My personal list would probably look like this except I would swap Cecil and Rydia. The women in the final party are absolute beasts who practically carry the 3 men through everything. Rosa deserves #1.
@tommiefunk2099
@tommiefunk2099 4 жыл бұрын
I am pre-emptively liking this since this is one of my favorite games ever.
@aiox82
@aiox82 4 жыл бұрын
Strong support for Rosa. Gotta say I surprised you put her there but you backed it up. My issue is that with the American release, it was so easy, I didn't need to explore her spells much. Cure, Heal, White, Float, Wall. That's all I used. But in the harder re-releases and JP version she has much more utility.
@vangelis7
@vangelis7 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I can definitely tell you've played this a lot, like me! This is my favorite game of all time, I too played it first when I was about 10 and now im 40....ish. You hit some good points most people never do. 1. Edward is just fine. Once you level him up a bit, so he hits 2x or 3x hits and get his 2nd harp, hes great from the back. MOst people really are hard on him, I like him and when you play the Japanese version where he has his skill (song?) you becomes that much more valuable. 2. Yang kicks ass, just like you when I found him in the Sylph cave I was hoping the big guy would bitch slap Edge out of the party. Hes so much better. I feel that Yang at level 40 is better than Edge at 50-55 (end game). Swapping out claws to consitently hit max damage and exploit weaknesses is awesome 3. Cid is pretty good on team beefcake. One thing that is odd though his Silver hammer is worse than his wooden one. I also found him missing and having inconsistent damage with the silver hammer so stick to the wooden one until you get the Earth hammer. He is very strong but still is behind Cecil and Yang at that point.
@tomderry7295
@tomderry7295 4 жыл бұрын
Hey David, you know what would be a fun, If you could create a dream RPG party who would they be? Yuna and Chrono for sure
@ColeFam
@ColeFam 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta wonder, if you counted Dark Knight Cecil and Child Rydia as separate characters, where they would fall on the list. Also, pretty spot on list, I loved it!
@Lans32485
@Lans32485 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely glad to see Rydia high up. She's always been my favorite, and she continues her legacy of magical kickassery even outside her home games. In Final Fantasy Record Keeper for example, she has an unlockable materia that gives her a decent chance of double casting any summon abilities. This allows her to make epic use of the higher level summon spells even if you don't have them honed up too much yet. Heck, most of the final party FFIV characters shine in Record Keeper. Cecil is one of the best fighters but really brings the pain with his high holy damage soul breaks. Kain is probably the best dragoon, and Rosa easily dominates the top of the white mage lineup, especially if you have her benediction soul break unlocked.
@ShiroMatrix
@ShiroMatrix 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious on your After Years rankings. It'd be a safe bet that Harley would be the worst of that bunch!
@LordNanfoodle
@LordNanfoodle 4 жыл бұрын
Things I've learned from playing the original SNES version, DS remake, and the Free Enterprise randomizer: - That Earth Hammer of Cid's? Surprisingly a Fire-type weapon. Also, have you ever tried using it as an item when he has it equipped? It casts Quake. - Porom actually learns Berserk faster than Rosa, and Berserk is hella awesome. In fast, Porom's early spell learning is slightly faster than Rosa, but after Level 20, it *DOES* begin to slow down, and as a result, it takes a couple more levels, about Level 49, for Porom to learn Cure 4, and 52 to learn White, whereas Rosa learns Cure 4 & White at 46 & 50 respectively, if I remember right. - Clearly you've never exploited Reflect strats on the Elements fight or cast Blink on the Attacker Orb, Berserked Cecil, attempted to Reflect Float onto the Attacker, then Quake the CPU to death? Otherwise you'd love FuSoYa a bit more. Also, in your video you showed using Bahamut on CPU, which... isn't that smart. Globe199 is never fun. If you do use summons on CPU, go with Sylph. It's single-target, so it keeps the Attacker alive, plus it heals the party at the same time. - Yang does grow in power as he levels, as his attack power is driven by his current level, however, at least in the SNES version and the North American & first release of the Japanese editions of the GBA version, there is a bug that his HP growth stops at level 60, as his HP table was never written past that point. - In the SFC and DS versions, you could nab a Soma Drop before the Tower of Zot, meaning you could *ACTUALLY* cast Tellah's Meteo on at the very least the Magus Sisters, and I think, if I remember where you get it, you can also use it on the Dark Elf too. - Speaking of the "J-Items" and "J-Commands" that were dummied out of the original SNES release for some reason, such items made Edge's steal command *MUCH* more valuable. Another thing discovered recently by runners of the Free Enterprise is that there could of been a plan for a customizable final party in the SFC/SNES version seeing as when runners tested just what the hell Porom's Cry command _(dummied out in the SNES version)_ actually did, as it was claimed it was supposed to lower enemy defense _(but it didn't)_ but instead turned out of all things to have the ability to increase the success rate of Edge's steal command. This makes Edge & Porom a larceny duo powerhouse, which is especially useful for stealing Sirens. A shame they never are together in the vanilla game. - Palom is so amazing because of how fast he learns Virus _(Level 21)_ and Quake _(Level 23)._ Quake is probably one of the best no-split Black Magic spells in the game, even moreso than Meteo, namely because of its faster casting time. He also learns Nuke faster than Rydia does, learning it at Level 52, compared to 55 for Rydia. - Edge can equip claws, just like Yang, although in most cases he's better off using his swords. However, keeping a pair of Thunder Claws and Ice Claws on hand is a good idea, as pairing an Ice Claw with one of his swords can help with the Rubicante fight, and slapping a Thunder Claw on before you fight Odin or go into the Giant of Babil is a godsend, as they will tear Odin and the machine-type enemies of the Giant up. - The best thing Edward has ever done for me in vanilla SNES is to keep the floor warm for me. 😋
@LuisParson
@LuisParson Жыл бұрын
CId: This guy isn't bad. He can take on those strong Ogres in the Magnetic Cave thanks to his big HP and damage. Replace him with Edward in that cave and Edward will get killed by them easily. Replace Edward with Cid in the Antlion cave and Cid will be broken. Edge: So many people thinks he's bad when he's better than Rydia in the Zeromus fight. Many people recommend to keep her dead in that fight. This has led me to not bother leveling her up at all in the PS1 version. And with her dead is helps Edge level up quicker and catch up. It also opens up a backrow slot for him to use Boomerang. I know how to beat the game with a four man party.
@jeremiahemery5778
@jeremiahemery5778 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I agree with the list. I love Rydia too, “I love this bitch” cracked me up. Keep up the great work. I look forward to all your videos.
@goukeban6197
@goukeban6197 2 жыл бұрын
Porom's usefulness is for using the Twin ability and wrecking shit harder with her brother, can't think of anything else I used her for.
@Madao_98
@Madao_98 Жыл бұрын
Rydia had this spell called stop, it was insanely broken for common enemies in the last part of the game, I actually used to spam that spell and the exploration was really easy and well besides that she melted the bosses
@alexmacneil4714
@alexmacneil4714 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I remembered that when she had some endgame staffs she could do 1000+ damage and I love her white magic
@chisaten
@chisaten 4 жыл бұрын
What is that video clip at the end of this video? I have never seen that animation of FFIV before. Is it the preview cutscene that plays before you press Start in some version of the game?
@davidvinc
@davidvinc 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the god awful FMV shown on the PS1 version of the game. Rumor has it that square didn’t even want to release the game in America because they were so embarrassed by the cut scene.
@chisaten
@chisaten 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO!!! Thanks for replying, david. I'll go do some searching for it for fun.
@Dhalin
@Dhalin 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidvinc And yet.... it's better than the chibi phone port graphics that they would later happily release on multiple platforms. How times have changed, mmm? Too bad we couldn't have gotten the PSP version on PC instead.
@dungeonscrew491
@dungeonscrew491 4 жыл бұрын
Which remakes had postgame? I have the ds remake and idt there is any postgame. Is it on like psp or something?
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