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-"Jeigan bad...Why the hell am I getting a phone call from someone called Mekkah?"

Ironically Jagen's base stats in FE1 can carry him for the whole game soo...

#2 is a perfect example as to why i feel Fire Emblem shouldn't be considered a JRPG. it's obviously a Japanese role playing game but its the connotation that comes with that title that is incredibly misleading. Especially since the main focus is the strategy/resource management, and Jeigan is a resource. Applying RPG nomenclature to a game that's really its own paradigm is the root as to why people have such hard time understanding the series.

In Earthbound there was that deadweight character at the start that curls up into a ball and does nothing whenever you summon him for an attack. It was freaking hilarious. Such is the charm of Earthbound! It breaks all of the conventions of RPG genre.

You just brought the ridicule of the entire Fire Emblem fandom down on you.

Lol Jagens are actually really good. They help you fight through tough early game enemies and can provide good chip to enemies anyways to help your early game team kill them and gain experience. Also, you can just drop Jagens when they stop being useful. There's no penalty for dropping them mid to late game. Also leveling up doesn't matter that much in Fire Emblem, for whatever reason, in almost every game in the series, you get really powerful prepromoted units who are immediately useful at base level such as Wendell, Book 1 Minerva, Sirius , Book 2 Palla, Sigurd, Dagda, Oifey, Percival, Marcus, Seth, Titania, etc., so you can use those units as well as units who have strong bases and growths. Also Jagen is a mounted unit and having eight move is almost always good in every turn based strategy game. Also Jagen can use Silver Lance at base, an extremely powerful weapon, which is great for powerful bosses, accentuated by the fact all these other unpromoted units in the early game will come nowhere close to having the weapon level to use it. For, examples of bad units in Fire Emblem, pick Est archetypes who join too late and too weak to contribute anything during their join, which means they don't contribute anything and can't contribute for very long since they join so late, are very difficult to train and only offer a marginally better unit for your troubles. Also, mediocre base stat units and units who join way too late are good examples as well like Sophia, Karla, L'Rachel , Wolt, Lot and Wade just to name a few. In conclusion, just use Jeagens, they're almost always really useful for at least the early game.

Jagen, the worst? Jagen and his descendants are literally the best character in most fire emblem games. They do nothing but help you, and are nearly essential to playing quickly and efficiently on higher difficulties. And I KNOW you aren't talking about Seth when you group up Jagens as bad. Seth isn't a man, he's a mountain in the shape of one. Not using Jagens is a pitfall of the highest order.

actually umaro has his place in fanatics tower where you can only use magic normally he spams melee attacks saving your mp and doing solid damage

>Jagen from Fire Emblem *BOI* There's a ton more bad characters than Jagen objectively. Let me list a few Miranda (Thracia 776); A late game mage who's stats are pathetic and her growths can't do shit. She ends up promoting into Mage Knight, a class that she can't make any use of really due to Thracia mechanics Tailtiu (Genealogy of the Holy War); a Foot Unit without Pursuit in a game where Being Mounted is a prerequisite for being even worth a damn in most cases 9/10 Armor knights; slow, clunky, and Mage fodder with always less move than their comrades. And the king of trash, FE12 Bantu; There Is nothing redeemable about this piece of garbage. Most Jagens have decent Use for chip damage, and some Jagens are just busted regardless. Frederick, Seth, Titania, Dagdar, And Marcus all are very decent units, and In the case of Seth and Titania, are some of the best units of the franchise, only ousted by Female Robin in Awakening and some others. Rant over

Ah yes, I totally remember killing an enemy with Jeigan and Marth's experience bar getting empty due to his stealing. Seriously, Jeigans are not useless nor the worst units in FE games. I thought this line of thought vanished long ago

You really missed the ball with the Jeigan entry. Especially in harder difficulities they are crucial to winning in the early game as they are the only characters that can take a hit or 2 aswell as softening the enemies up for your weaker characters so they get the exp The silver weapons the join with are for killing bosses and problematic units, the other weapon (usually steel or iron) is meant for softening up enemies. The rest was quite fun though

Omfg Rafa & Malak are WORTHLESS. Their random spells are worthless. The funny thing is the story says that Duke Barinten killed their parents to get their skills. And I'm just like "OMFG why did Barinten even want their skills?"

In the Fire Emblem series the Jagen character archetype utility vary from game to game, but it is usually somewhere inbetween "good in the early game, eventually becomes obsolete" to "godlike for the entire game". And while I would agree that the original FE Jagen is not in the god-tier, he is still a good unit. Learning how to use Jagens in Fire Emblem actually helps the overall growth of your entire army, because: - Jagens begin the game so strong that they need little to no xp to be effective, even in later chapters. Given that FE is a strategy game series, based on correct distribution of limited resources (and XP is a limited resource in most of the games) having a character that can cover one of the numerous character slots without competing with everybody else for XPs and still be good is an immense boon. - Jagens can help other characters growth by setting up enemy kills, just have the Jagen use weaker weapons so that he weaken an enemy to the point another character can kill him withe ease for a bunch of sweet kill XPs. - Given that Jagens start the games with high weapon skill levels they have instant acces to advanced high-rank weapons that no one else in your army will be able to use for a while. Such weapons are usually a valuable boon or almost a requirement against some of the early game bosses(and/or other problematic early game enemies) that could be way too dangerous for your other inexperienced and way weaker characters. This prevents character death that, as you correctly pointed in the video, is permanent and would either require re-playing the entire level from the beginning or substituting the dead character with a less used, lower level and probably less skilled unit. - Even if somehow you don't like the idea of making the life of all your other character easier by actively using Jagens in combat (it's actually a dumb idea, since Jagens excel at fighting, but hey maybe you enjoy the extra challenge) they are STILL USEFUL. Given their overall strenght they are next to impossible to kill, so even if you strip all of their weapons they can roam safely around the battlefield being an enemy AI-taunting decoy, visting villages and rescuing wounded allies. This is made even better by the fact that the titular Jagen and most of the characters in the archetype are Paladins, one of the most mobile among the advanced classes in the series that also has very high rescue abilities (in the games that include a rescue mechanic); and since this is an advanced class your other cavalry characters won't be able to promote to paladin for quite a while. This of course means you can reallocate more of your other inexperienced characters to the fight itself (the source of XPs) by relieving them from those not-xp granting duties.

>Calling Jagen bad in 2020 For a moment I thought this video was released 13 years ago, because that's some REALLY outdated information here. At worst a Jagen archetype unit can still help the earlygame parts of their respective game (wich tends to be the hardest part anyways) more consistent, and even if they eventually fall off, they can still be useful on different ocasions because of the combination of good class + high weapon ranks. And of course there are the Jagen characters who ends up being so good that they are the best unit in their respective game. Remember kids, base stats are much more reliable than growth rates.

I don't think you've ever played a Fire Emblem game.

Jaegen shouldn't be any where near this list lmao

Great points about Cid. I would add that his short comings are highlighted even more in the GBA and PSP versions endgame. He has the most HP...yeah that cool but Cid can't equip heavy armor and because he's a melee fighter it's the equivalent of a mage in the front row. Edward is pretty busted in the endgame since half of everything is weak to Apollo's Harp. But hot take, I think Edge has a spot there with Cid. In the GBA and PSP versions everyone can do everything better than him. Cid may not be able to take a hit but he has HP to back it up. And in the DS remake when Edge meet Yang he said "I'm your better replacement". Are you Edge? are you? Mister I can't equip claws in the DS version.

Growing up in the pre internet world I was CONVINCED there was a secret way that was alluding me to make Jogurt amazing, and worth the hassle.

Umaro (with his Rage Ring) really helped me while leveling up characters in the dinosaur forest. I usually end up not equipping his Blizzard Orb though, because somewhere there's bound to be some annoying enemies whom absorb it (ugh).

9:00 Ironically this may be a perfect example of how to use Jeigan, softening the nastier enemies for your weaker units to move in for the kill.

okaaay... i've never played Star Ocen till the end of time (or not for long ... i had it but sold it) but sorry Adray IS a hot muscle Daddy where my Gaydar simply explodes xD

Obligatory “Edward is a beast late-game in the GBA version” post.

Jogurt was the one I thought of before clicking the video but thought he might be too obscure. You didn't disappoint.

8:30 That boys is what we call a “pitfall”

Jogurt is definitely intended to make an army of helmet wearing chipmunks

Thank you! I’ve been asking for this for so long! Also good points about Cid. He doesn’t do anything notable, and as for Edward in the remakes he’s actually the strongest character in the game with the most broken equips and the highest stats

Great video! You have the most unique and entertaining top 10 videos, keep up the good work!

You had me at hot muscle daddy body 😭🤣

This is such a cool channel. Who even thinks to make a list like this?? But now that I have this list, I wonder why I hadn't thought of it sooner.

I love watching your videos because you ALWAYS show jrpgs that I've never even heard of :D

Feels like old school YT here, lm glad it was reccomended to me haha :)

I used Shir in my party in the latter stages of the game her speed saved me against a few bosses by healing quickly or applying buffs quick. Not that I'm saying there aren't better options. I just always tend to load my party with females so no Rudo and used Rolf, Anna, Amy, Shir.

"Jagen bad" Either you made this video in 2006 or you're trying to provoke a war against the Fire Emblem community

Thumbed up the video right away because I knew this was gonna be good 😆

Liked and subscribed for “muscle daddy body”. I will now watch all of your videos. Thank you for being hilarious and knowledgeable in equal measures.

I totally agree about Adray. The worst part about him(and another new character who's basically just Cliff) is that they force you to choose to permanently get rid of 2 much more interesting characters.

Literally shouted "YES" when you put Samson on the list. Beyond the Beyond was such a frustrating grind when you combined lengthy battles, long dungeons and high encounter rates. Adding to the fact that Samson would just randomly get hurt and not move was SO aggravating. I never understood why the developers decided on that, he's already weakened, just let that be the curse! lol

Hahahaha gotta admit, my first thought when I heard "he's just a worthless piece of trash" was, "that was so mean!" But great video as usual. Great points about Cid.

Mack from Lost Odyssey, my condolences for whoever didn't level him up throughout the first half of the game.

Davidvinc: "Samson and Adray are trash" Me: I'm feeling very attacked right now.

I love that someone else is still obsessed with Phantasy Star II. lol

Man, I love Gobi. He sets up shop and helps me pick up some really nifty pieces of equipment, including his own best weapon early on. Also, I'm not sure if it was equipping him with the Sleeper or just sheer luck, but it was a fairly common sight to see Gobi go stab happy on enemies. He seemed to really love delivering critical strikes. Breath of Fire had a lot of problems, and including Gobi after the bulk of the game's underwater combat was definitely one of the most glaring, but I still preferred him over Ox. Ox was either a crummy healer or too slow to really do anything in a fight. Including him meant I would take at least one hit from enemies during every encounter, because nothing is slower than Ox. Had I chosen anyone else, I could have saved myself from wasting MP on healing up every couple of fights.

I got a list idea. Top 10 Optional/Hidden Party Members. 7: Adray is actually optional, I missed him the first time I played. Also Cliff can even do Symbology better. The Strategy Guide taught me this, but that item you get that teaches healing spells to someone? Give it to Cliff and buff his MP and Cliff basically becomes a Punch Paladin, a GOOD Punch Paladin. I'm not unconvinced Jogurt/Yogurt was meant to be an actual character, but they ran out of time and just made him a joke character to keep him in and at least give the players a laugh.

"All Breath of Fire games have bad useless party members." Ryu, Nina, and Lin from Dragon Quarter sitting over in the corner, looking uncomfortably at each other, wondering which one it is. (But the secret is it's none of them.)

Umaro is a very effective character in one scenario: the Zealot Tower.

Going to make a minor case for Umaro before shitting on him further: Umaro's berserk status gives him the niche of being incredibly useful in the Fanatic's Tower. Mind you, you can berserk your own characters with a spell to have the exact same effect, but it's something. However, one REALLY MAJOR thing you left out for Umaro: He can't gain Esper stat bonuses, meaning end-game he is incredibly weak compared to your characters who can benefit from esper stat growths (This goes for Gogo as well). Not to mention you can't swap out his equipment, only his relics, meaning abuse of the max 129% Mblock (meaning 100% evasion against almost every move, to those who don't know) is impossible.

Outside of the Jagen bit, that you royally screwd, It's a Very nice video.

Adray is pretty hot, but in my limited time with Star Ocean, i too favored Daddy Cliff

Was going to say something about the #2 entry Jagen and the fact at they're actually good units if not one of your better units depending on the game, but it looks like everyone is already doing that so yeah. If you want a Fire Emblem archetype to put in there, Est wouldn't be a bad choice. Join late in the game, when all your units are promoted, unprompted and low level so they tend to die if they get looked at by the enemy. Like Nino is okay if leveled up but all you get for all that effort on average is a Pent with a little less Mag and a little more Spd iirc based on average stats.

Erys from Star Ocean First Departure By the time you get her, you have two healers already. What's the point if you aren't running a symbology playthrough?

I decided to play The Magical Land of Wozz, looked up a walkthrough, and yours is the first one that came up. Wasn’t even aware you made one 😂

Umaro is kinda fun. Tbh I don't really use him a lot, but it's still a cool idea.

And of course Jagen is on the list. Despite being one of the best early game units in the game that can easily kill most enemies, he is considered bad by many. Although Fire Emblem: Dark Dragon and the Sword of light is a very easy game, in the most hardtest diffulty in the DS Remake, You cannot beat the early maps without using him. Just because a character has no growths does not mean he is bad.

"Edward is with you for two dungeons" And don't forget that's two dungeons filled with enemies susceptible to all the debuffs he can inflict, making battles a whole lot faster, as well as bosses he can outright avoid damage from to come back with a salve, and to say nothing of the near-comical levels of overpowered he is in the late game of certain ports. Edward certainly does not suck, in fact he's my favourite character the game, especially so since The After Years, in one of its few redeeming features, decided to develop him even further. Tellah is a really cool example of using game mechanics to put character development across - when you first meet him, he's got age and experience on his side and he carries the party with it. When he rejoins later, his age has caught up to him and it shows in the way he's used - all the best spells, but they completely wear him out in no time flat. Whereas Cid, yeah, he'd at least be good for tanking some hits if Cecil weren't already considerably better at it - I'd say he's there so that Yang only has a 50/50 shot of taking a hit meant for him :P

Don't forget that when Shir steals, she runs all the way back to your house, so you're down a member until you go back there.

Hi David! Love your work and your Let's Plays got me through tough times! I'd same Kimiari from FF 10 he just dies all the time and I lowkey have a hatred for blue mages. And YUKARI FROM PERSONA 3 CAUSE SHE CAN'T HIT JACK SHIT. Also, totally agree with Umaro.

I would add Faize from Star Ocean 4. Like you mentioned with Adray, Star Ocean seems to have problems balancing mages. Faize has the moveset of a mage with the stats of a crappy fighter. All the other mages in the game at least got weapons that add to their magic power (aside from healing, they still weren't all that great), but Faize got some crappy swords that only boost strength. Sure, you can use the crafting system to tweak his gear to improve his spells, but that also applies to all the other mages in the party. Don't get me wrong, I liked him as a character and his design is cool. I mained him until he left the party and got replaced with someone who could do his job even better (had the best physical strength of the party and actually had physical arts to go with it). Love me a good magic swordsman, but Faize just ain't it.

DUDE jagens in FE are SO GOOD you'll never need all of the experience and being able to rely on them for anything in the early game is amazing, of course abusing them is bad but you'll keep getting more and more units as the game progresses so you can just fill your team with newer units and train them up.

Not only does Shir not have enough TP to use her techniques much, but she's also the character who's the slowest to learn techniques (yes, she actually does learn Nagra...eventually), AND the Laconia Dagger (the only new weapon for her on Dezo, and pretty expensive too) only has 4 attack power. And oh yeah, she can still steal on Dezo, meaning you have to travel between planets to get her back.

you miss the fun part of having Jeigan, even if you remove his weapon he can still tank enemies if your playing easy to normal mode. making it a fun go-to help exp gain for others. the real arguement of worst unit would be your 1st manakete as he has the worst growth stat and his power is based on how often you get flame orbs for him to stay maintain his dragon form.

We need best partners in a rpg

Loved Shir, she geared up my party early on and thanks to selling off extra stuff, she made me some serious meseta! Love your vids!!!

Your description of Gobi isn't quite right; the underwater section of the game only STARTS when you first get to control him, because you need him to get hold of the item that lets you go underwater at all! The real problem with him is that the first time you get to use him, he's underlevelled with crap equipment, and you have to solo travel across the map with him. That's definitely one of the toughest parts of the game, and the fact that he doesn't even have enough AP to consistently use his underwater-only spells that are his only real damage source/gimmick is the icing on the cake.

I never understood why people thought Tellah was a bad character. He's really powerful at intro and by the time he falls off he's already on the way out. He's essentially a Jeigan, minus the option to use him in the late game... And then you talk shit on Jeigan right as I'm writing this, and demonstrate in your rant that you use him wrong. He only sucks up the xp you give him. And it doesn't matter if he does suck it all up because he's already strong enough to solo the game, which is what you're doing with him if he is sucking up all the xp. Give him an Iron Lance and he'll set up kills for weaker units, letting the units growth potential actually grow safely. In that regard he becomes even more useful after he drops off because he doesn't one-shot as many units.(Although he one-shots a decent portion of the enemies, even in the late game) It's not surprising that you don't like him very much because he subverts the expectations of the Genre. But he's far from useless. Hell your gripes about him derrive from him being a tad too useful, creating the temptation to overely on him. And because growths are small and random anyway, the maps are actually balanced around the base stats of the units they give you, as even balancing them around poor growth outcomes would gimp players who have overrelied on pre-promotes or had lost units. Once the game gets to where Jeigan's actually in danger of dying without some severe incompetence, everyone is in danger, whether they're leveled up or not. Leveling up is a bonus, not a necessity, and acts as a double edged sword, giving a false sense of security that unravels the moment a unit leaves their designated lane, regardless of how many good level ups they've had. Make the right decision and you win at base level. Make the wrong decision and you lose at max. Level up growths just give wiggle room for the kinda okay decisions to pan out okay rather than kinda, and reduced the number of situations where the right decision could still fail. The original Fire Emblem was just that type of game.

Jagen has great movement and decent defenses. Just having him running around with no weapon to distract enemies is way more useful than a ton of Fire Emblem characters could ever hope to be. He also won't "steal" EXP while doing so, because that matters so much apparently.

Early in FF5, Berseker with two-handed death sickle or whatever from the harvesters on crescent island... Galuf be putting out 2500+ per hit

Ahh, Rafa and Malak i remember when i got them in final fantasy tactics at the end of chapter 2 i believe , they were outclassed by any Mage or fighter class i had in terms of damage and reliably hitting there target. its so sad too because i was so excited when i first got them but no matter what i did and i tryed everything i worked on those 2 for so many battles and no matter what i did to either one of them it never improved them enough to make it worth the effort they mastered so many jobs and i tinkered with this skill and that skill, gave rafa the haste perfume, unique clothes and weapons and everything else i could think of and there was always some one better waiting in the roster.

The whole purpose of a Jagen In FE lore is a unit who is supposed to make the early game easier. Especially on harder difficulties. They are supposed to be super useful from early to mid game then be about bad to trash by mid game to endgame. There are a few examples of none trash Jagens, these are called Oifeys based on the Fe4 character. These Jagens have good bases and growths and can be carried to the endgame as they will be either with your troops in stats or slightly behind other Oifeys are Seth (the most famous Oifey) Titania, Sothe, Marcus (in his FE7 form, not to be confused when he’s an old man in fe6) and Frederick. I also believe Felicia/Jakob (depending on gender in fates) also fit the role

Sometimes I question you on every level. Gobi joins you literally right before the underwater segment of the game. Now granted, he's terrible and the underwater segment is fairly small, and only has 1 actual dungeon but he's given to you when he'd be at his most useful. Also Cid: Cid's use is entirely in context. Cid is a tanky character who can absorb an insane amount of damage even without metal armor and happens to have a decently powered non-metallic weapon. His purpose is entirely for the Lodestone Cavern. His use is minimal in the Tower of Zot, but compared to Edward who's only moment of being useful is dodging mom bomb. His salve is hot garbage and his sing is unreliable. Also Umaro: I will admit that Umaro is terrible, but I would still use him over Gogo. I mean I'd use him over Gau too, but that's because I'm too lazy to memorize useful rages and always forget what you're supposed to do for Wind God Gau. Also Jagen: The Jagen Archetype is to much for me to explain, but look up some videos on it. It gives context to Jagen and explains why his lack of use is often just as bad as his overuse. Also Jagens are not as prevalent as you make them out to be. FE1 FE3 FE5* FE6 FE14 (Revelation Route) As for every other character on here (other than Jogurt) I haven't play the game.

callin umaro useless....i gotta ask, how long have you played FF6? not sayin your absolutely wrong, everyones got there opinon, but i gotta know

Awesome list! I always loved Umaro, but I think it was because he was a "hidden" character. I never used him in the final dungeon though. He and Gau usually stayed on the Falcon.

Like this page and what I do here? Consider supporting me on patreon! www.patreon.com/davidvinc [0:33] - 10) Cid - Final Fantasy 4 [1:33] - 9) Samson - Beyond the Beyond [2:39] - 8) Shir - Phantasy Star 2 [3:32] - 7) Adray - Star Ocean 3 [4:26] - 6) Gobi - Breath of Fire [5:30] - 5) Rafa and Malak - Final Fantasy Tactics [6:20] - 4) Umaro - Final Fantasy 6 [7:27] - 3) Ceramic - The Magical Land of Wozz [8:28] - 2) Jagen - Fire Emblem [9:28] - 1) Jogurt - Shining Force

Gremio from Suikoden 1, not a fan of him. He's weak physically, doesn't have any useful spells to contribute either, has awful defense, AND he's a forced party member for like, 80% of the game or something.

wait are you giving your videos new thumbnails? if so that´s pretty cool

What game is that @ 0:12?

Somebody call Mekkah

Davidvince: "That's a different list for a different time" Lymle:.....KAAAY

I will never, ever shit talk Rafa from Tactics. I was about to lose a fight and she took her last turn before people started crystalizing. She threw a rock at the boss, he got knocked back, fell off the building, died, I won the fight before anyone crystallized. I owe her everything. XD

Konghol from legend of dragoon. He was meant to be your strong but slow tank but his speed was so low most characters got 2 or 3 turns before he got even one and his magic defense was bad to the point where he'd almost die from a magic attack from a random encounter. Bosses could just one shot him as they tend to have magic attacks over physical. And to make matters worse his armor upgrades lower his magic defense even further. Also you don't even get his dragoon spirit from a story event until the last disc in the final dungeon unless you just buy it in the marketplace on disk 2.

Was really enjoying this video until you got to the number 2 spot. Jagen? Fucking Jagen is bad? One of the best character archetypes if Fire Emblem is bad? “Well they steal all the exp!” You don’t need to feed your tons of exp to win at fire emblem. Besides, Jagens are good because of their amazing starting stats and weapon ranks that can last them through the entire game. They don’t need stat growths to be good. I’m not gonna leave a dislike on the vid just cause you put Jagen on the list, but just letting you know, there are characters in Fire Emblem that are FAR worse than him (Vyland, Sophia, Meg, Shannam, Roger, etc.) Just take this as a learning experience. Otherwise, fun video

hey now, Umaro rocks! he may be berserked, but he hits like a tank

So rare to see any mention of PS2 from Genesis. Played that one A LOT as a kid.

As an FE player, I consider Jeigan characters to have two primary uses, plus one more in the case of particularly powerful ones like Seth and Titania. First is to weaken enemies so other units can finish them off and gain EXP. Second is to serve as a "panic button" option for strong enemies. Jeigan and most of his successors start with an A-rank weapon which has high power as part of their starting equipment, and have the weapon skill ranks to use it from the start of the game. If there's something that needs dead NOW and needs a lot of damage to become dead, use the Silver Lance! Third, for the "broken" Jeigans, is to kill all the things. Also, Fire Emblem isn't a JRPG. It has elements of JRPGs but is not a JRPG.

Jagens are free units that can hold their own and dont need to grow much and there is a lot of worth in that. If you're using a Jagen so much that it actually gimps the rest of your army, that's kinda on you lol. Meanwhile characters in this archetype are typically among your most valuable units. Edit: Just read the other comments and y'all make me proud lmao.

Jagen. Bruh do you not know what a pitfall is?

I will vouch for Jaegan forever. Yes, he absolutely sucks after a little while and he does suck up experience, but he's meant to be a crutch. Someone to save your hind at the last second in case you mess up. That's why they are generally Paladins, to also rescue people with their high Con. Not to mention in the DS remake, you can reclass him into a Dragon Knight. Just forge his Silver lance, and he will destroy almost anything the game pushes towards you.

Heres the ironic thing about Cid of final fantasy iv. His weapon pool has axes too. But you won't be able to get your first one when he leaves. Now this will be negated in the GBA and the remakes* (the DS one is kinda strange due to him actually being able to use axes but without a cheat device ) due to the party switching. The DS augment system does more good but yea... Cid is more of a physical attacker with limited support

Jagen is one of the best units in the game, if you don't want him to take up XP just use him to weaken enemies. His tankiness, movement, and silver lance all make him something no one else is (at least earlygame)

This was alright until you said Jagen, you are just wrong about that one.

It's funny that I was literally thinking of Adray from Star Ocean and *boom* he shows up in the list lol. Probably one of the most flawed characters in my history of JRPG's. Not to mention, his mode of attack is to solely bash enemies with his sheathed sword lol.

In Shir's defense she does steal a cellphone you can use to save anywhere. In her offense, you left out that you have to go all the way back to Start Town, Start World to get her back every time she feels like shoplifting.

I was gonna make a comment on the Jegan point but 200 other people beat me to it. Nice.

0:12 LMFAO Lymie on screen with her classic annoying AF english dub catchphrase. Can't wait for that video 😂 3:36 oh, i played the vanilla version no wonder never heard of him. Nice silver daddy eye candy tho, more my type than cliff haha.

Adray is actually one of the strongest characters in that Star Ocean game. His attacks can damage MP, which is a much easier way to kill most end game mobs.

Cid's hammers are supposed to get a big damage boost against machines. Too bad they forgot to add machine enemies to any of the dungeons you visit while Cid is with you.

Oof the FE community is gonna have a field day w/ this vid. Jagens are very good. They're free good units. If you gimp your exp distribution. That is on you as a player for feeding all kills to one character when said character's role is to help your army and make the game easier for you. Plus some Jagens like Seth in sacred stones outright solo the game.

Jogurt also tops my list, just useless.

Great list! I so agree about all of these! Ooo Gobi or Mogu though? But yeah... probably Gobi... For list two how about Ramus from Lunar? Or Gremio from Suikoden 1?

Gau is ultimately the best character, as his quake and merton summons will do massive damage on your enemies while healing yourself, assuming proper armors are equipped.