Please don't stop doing this lineup on Mondays. It really helps me wind down on a Monday night.

31:05 Glenn Frey said "you get 25 years to write your first album, and 6 months to write the 2nd".

This was a fantastic topic, guys! ... How about the reverse? - A Rant show about bands who made a mediocre debut but their second album was phenomenal. - For example, Judas Priest. Their debut album "Rock- Rolla" was pretty good but, not really great...Then, their second album "Sad Wings of Destiny" was an instant classic .

Rant idea: Bands you don’t like with an album you do. So bands/artists that as a whole, don’t do much for you or you don’t like, but who have one studio album you DO like. Like for me, I’m not a huge Billy Squier fan. A lot of his music doesn’t do much for me. Not BAD, but not an artist I gravitate towards. But MAN, Don’t Say No is an AWESOME album

Switching from get off of my lawn to get out of my house, is a jump. Too funny!

This was extremely difficult for me. Pete mentioned the two albums I had as possibilities for this topic: Boston's Don't Look Back, and King Crimson's In The Wake of Poseidon. The latter only by way of the self-conscious attempt to replicate the debut (to a certain extent, anyway.) This was not a precipitous drop in quality (not even close), it's still an awesome album. I think Tom Scholz was pressured to have Don't Look Back completed far quicker than he would have liked, which may explain the slight dip in quality (particularly on the second side), as compared to Boston's debut. Still a great album, though.

Always great to see the Hudson Valley Squares. SOT is good all round but I've gotta say the Hudson Valley Squares have become my favourite segment.. Hoping for a scariest/least-scariest album Halloween special from the boys.

A few years ago I would have agreed with you guys about G'n'R and the UYI I&II. Then during the lockdown I gave them a spin again, and have to say there's a lot of good stuff on them. It's very eclectic and it has a lot of variety which I really like.Some epic songs, some punky, some ballads, some straight-forward hard rock,... Some might be fillers, but still very enjoyable. The only song I cannot stand is "Knockin' on...". But then again, I don't think that over here in Europe those songs were played as much as they were in the U.S.

What a great topic. I wouldn't even know where to start! I love watching these guys, I'm constantly checking to see if there's a new video to watch. Thanks, Pete! And everyone else, as well.

Spin Doctors: Their studio debut, Pocket Full of Kryponite, is a near non-stop party. Their followup, Turn It Upside Down, has a few decent songs but was a huge step down.

I gotta tune in each week to hear Chris say, “that sucked.” Makes me laugh every time. Thank you, Chris for your candor. Love this weekly gathering, Pete. Thank you!

I saw SOD on the speak English or die tour, they opened up for Overkill at L'Amour in Brooklyn. Great show, had a beer with Billy Milano at the bar.

1. When Rob Halford left Judas Priest and he formed Fight, the debut "War of Words" was fantastic. The follow up, "Small Deadly Space" was okay, but it was totally forgettable. 2. I loved Pearl Jam's debut "Ten" but I liked each of their subsequent albums less and less. "Ten" still sounded a lot like Mother Love Bone, but by the time they made their second album, they changed their sound, and not for the better. 3. Brother Cane's first album was a great hard rock album from the early 90's. Then they went post-grunge on their second album, and I was like "WHY!?!?" 4. The first Damn Yankees album was good AOR fun, but the second was really meh.

I really enjoy you four and this series. Great discussions and funny banter. You guys cheer me up after a hard day. Keep it up \m/

Thank you guys for your RANT- Second Album Slip - Ups🎤🎸🎵🥁

This is definitely must see tv that needs to be on more than once a week. These rants with these guys are awesome and very entertaining

Hey Pete, you guys have done a couple rants about terrible concert experiences. How about sharing awesome concert experiences? Like were there any concerts that were even better than you'd hoped? What's the farthest each of you guys have traveled to see a show? Assuming concerts resume in 2021, who are you most looking forward to seeing?

Boston is the one for me. It sounded like a bizzarro world version of the debut. I have always thought that good themes would be with bands whose live performances are better than their albums or bands who have great albums that are terrible live.

A Perfect Circle, Thirteenth Step. The Nurse Who Loved Me and one or two others Noose, Blue. Mer De Noms is essential listening.

Aaaa, the classic 4 piece SoT-lineup. Great start in the morning. Greetings from Sweden 👋😃👋

I still give Appetite for Destruction a spin every couple years or so. It always kinda surprises me how strong a record it is. Then I put it back away for a couple years or so...

Imo, there are more than 4 good songs on Use Your Illusions 1 and 2. My favorites: Live and Let Die (it's a cover I know), Don't Cry, November Rain, Dust N' Bones, Perfect Crime (could have easily fit on Appetite For Destruction), Civil War (AMAZING song), Yesterdays, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Estranged (EPIC song), You Could Be Mine (could have fit on Appetite For Destruction), Don't Damn Me, and some other good songs like: Right Next Door To Hell, Bad Obsession, Back Off Bitch, Garden of Eden, 14 Years, and You Ain't The First. That's 17 out of 30 songs.

I think the Illusion albums are masterpieces.

Anthrax - Fistful was killer with Turbin after that they never sounded the same.

Here's a topic for discussion. I lived in Nashville, TN for awhile recently and was able to meet several musicians. Before the Covid struck, the biggest topic of conversation was the demise of the music business and what each musician was doing to supplement their income in order to overcome lack of album sales and the effect streaming has had on the music industry. One guy in particular told me, if someone ever came up with an idea for musicians to get paid for their contributions to songs/albums similar to the days before digital streaming, that person would become a millionaire/billionaire overnight and be the savior/hero to every individual involved in the music business. So my question to the Hudson Valley Squares is, what would your suggestion be? How would each of you supplant the current arrangement of how musicians/singers/producers/engineers get paid? Or has the mp3 indeed killed the record industry?

THE PRETENDERS debut was killer but not so much with PRETENDERS ll

i wear my SOT hat and t with pride!

Cool video! I these are quickly becoming my favorite on your channel along with your Deep Cut Dives.

There’s nothing that makes me feel older than when my Mum goes on about loving ‘Civil War’ and ‘November Rain’ by Guns N’ Roses. I went off the band decades ago and there she is, loving it.

I think I'm pretty much alone in this but I absolutely love the 'Illusion' albums. The variety is magnificent; there's the long tracks such as Civil War, Locomotive, Breakdown and the epically vicious Coma which are hard rock classics, one and all. Also the more bluesy stuff like Dust N' Bones, 14 Years, Bad Obsession as well as the punky rantings of Right Next Door to Hell, Shotgun Blues and Perfect Crime are all brilliant. And the ballads are magnificent too, with awesome solos in them. Oh well, the world can be a lonely place sometimes.

These guys are simply great. I look forward to seeing them together.

Meat Loaf, Bat Out Of Hell,..Classic! Follow up Dead Ringer good but not great.

Addicted to your show.

Thanks to you all - I have loved watching these on Monday nights over the last few months! Here's a topic idea - holes in your collection. In other words, popular rock/metal albums that you hadn't heard until recently, or listened to for this topic, and it would blow the others minds. Having heard the singles on the radio is OK, just not the entire album until recently. The topic is inspired by me FINALLY picking up Highway to Hell, listening it all the way through, and wondering why on Earth it took me so long!

This is off topic but I highly recommend checking out a band called Orange Goblin and their album Time Traveling Blues. Super Solid release by a band I myself just discovered this evening. \m/ \m/

Tremendous show on a dreary , raw, chilly 🥶 night in Northern New Jersey. Way to go guys ! 🐵💯/ thank you lol. Nick / dead on. I never listened to Machine HEAD since second one.

hi from the uk. yes great rant kinda made me think of anextension to this with albums that followed double albums and couldn't possibly hold up. I mean what could follow physical graffitti, exile on main st, out of the blue, quadrophenia or the wall. and sure there's many others. keep up the good work. cheers curly

Great show! Love when Pete mentions Nazareth and everyone just stares at him like.....ok, since no one lived through it and its impact was not felt by the group.

My 3 picks - Living Colour - Time's Up (it's all over the place and experimental. Some good moments on it but really it's one of the most disjointed records I've ever heard, especially after Vivid which had a perfect flow to it) Bad English - Backlash (totally phoned in. Almost all the good material was used up on the first record. The lone exception is Time Stood Still) Creed - Human Clay (just too commercial and fluffy. A few okay tracks but they ruined the vibe they established on their debut)

I’m gonna do this idea with a few friends on zoom! This was brilliant. Can’t abide the Machinehead shout though Chris lol. I know that’s a popular opinion but I’m alright with groove in my metal.

Love the guest shows Pete, good stuff.

1) Sniff 'n' the Tears - *The Games Up* *Frickle Heart* with the one hit wonder single "Driver's Seat". Debut album was great. 2) Dire Straits - *Communiqué* Didn't care for it. No *Sultans of Swing.* Their third album *Making Movies* is my favorite. 3) Nine Below Zero - *Don't Point Your Finger* Their first *Live at the Marquee* was very, very good live album. Their first studio album lost that umpf.

Great show. Oasis came to mind for me. That first album was really tight and rocking but What's the Story Morning Glory was mellow and long winded. Seems like a lot of their best stuff was non-album singles. I could also think of George Harrison.

Again a very good show by " the fabulous four ". I agree with Chris that "Use your illusion" is not a good double album, but I must also say that there are several tunes that are very good. Civil war. Patience. November Rain. Do not Cry. Estranged (agree with Nick, a great song).

Mind Funk. First album is HUGE! Then they went grunge...

You hit on a topic when you were talking about Guns N Roses... Bands that have been milking a good album for their whole career.

Captain Beyond - Sufficiently Breathless, I enjoy it and it's solid but feels like they are saying sorry for having been sort of heavy on the debut, sounding at times like Santana.

The Stone Roses - Second Coming TSAR - Band-Girls-Money The Pursuit Of Happiness - One Sided Story

Fastway ,"All fired Up", not so good, but Trick or Treat" is awesome!!!

I thought guns n Rose's 2nd album was gnr lies?

This is such a great topic. The classic sophomore slump album to me will always be The Stone Roses Second Coming. Their debut is a perfect proto-Britpop album. Immaculate. Their second is absolutely unlistenable. Also, not sure if you guys know much about Bad Religion, but their 2nd album is...something else. Into the Unknown literally broke up the band because it was so bad. It’s worth a listen just for the experience of it.

Off topic but: I got the SoT shirt today! Top quality, fits perfectly! Navy blue goes surprisingly well with the design. 👍👍👍👍

Lies is considered Guns n Roses second LP

As soon as I started watching the video I came up with some bands I felt did had amazing first albums but then flopped on the second album. My picks were Mayhem, Dark Funeral and Beherit. It was really cool that later in the video Mayhem was mentioned.

Rose Tattoo. The first album is incredible and one of the best rock albums ever. The second one is still great, but it cannot hold up with their debut.

Ryan is right. The debut is often excellent because the band usually spends many years writing different songs and then pick the best ones once they are signed.

You guys are awesome love the honesty which these days in Metal is somewhat missing keep up the good work

Another hungarian here (not a true madman, though). When we were young (about the end of elementary school) we liked Tormentor, a local black metal(-ish) band Attila Csihar was in.

Vince Neil's first solo album Exposed kicks ass. However, his second solo album(Carved In Stone) sucked big time.

Discharge is the epitome of this. They basically invented their own genre of crossover punk (D-Beat) and went to WTF???

Pete is right on the money about Machine Head- "The Blackening". That is a GREAT metal album for the 00s. I think that, following The Burning Red's nu-metal tendencies, they had recharged themselves with 2003's "Through the ashes of Empires". But man- The Blackening!!!! Loaded to the absolute brim with riffs and exploding with inventiveness and progression. It was absolutely praised to the high heavens in 2007. And deservingly so.

The Knack.....and I think Use Your Illusion was GnR's 3rd record. LIES was the second record Guns released.

I love you four, it is a good chemistry guys!

My list of bands with great debuts, not impressed by their second very much Bon Jovi - S/T Hardline - Double Eclipse Blue Murder - S/T Tall Stories - S/T Dare - Out of the Silence Bad English - S/T The Storm - S/T Savage - Loose 'N' Lethal

I also can't really get into the first couple Machine Head albums, but Through the Ashes, The Blackening and Unto the Locust are fantastic metal albums IMO. The Blackening especially is just so heavy and well produced. Plus, there is a great cover of Hallowed Be Thy Name that I recommend giving a listen to.

I see you covered it later on in the video. spot on!!!

Interesting choices today. Totally agree on the GnR comments, Use your Illusion should have been one album with the best of all the 30 songs. For me a band to include is Allen-Lande. The Battle is a kick ass debut, but The Revenge is totally forgettable, nothing really grabs me, not bad though but not something I want to hear on repeat.

Civil War-Coma-Estranged-November Rain-Right Next Door to Hell-Don't Damn me-Shotgun Blues-Get in the Ring-Pretty Tied Up-Bad Obsession-Back Off Bitches-Breakdown would be amazing record.

Couldn’t agree more about Discharge. First record was seminal hardcore. “Grave New World” sucks HARD.

I saw Mindfunk support Slayer in London on the Seasons in the Abyss tour. They were excellent.

Saracen's 2nd album first comes to mind. Heroes, Saints, and Fools is great Proggy NWOBHM. 2nd album, while not bad, was a step down. from their debut record. Sorcery's Til Death Do We Part was okay, however it had a really weak singer on those songs. Whereas Sinister Soldier's is great late 70s Hard Rock/Heavy Metal. Bulldozer's Final Separation has really weak production, which hindered it from being very good. I also agree with the Discharge, and Mayhem album selections.

Compared to the 1st: I'm going with Candy-O. #2, Axis Bold As Love, #3 The Go-Gos, Vacation

Totally disagree on Guns & Roses there are tons of amazing songs on Use Your Illusion 1&2.

Some of the best songs from the Asia: Alpha sessions ended up not making the album. They eventually came out as bonus tracks. Also I read the Asia biography and Steve Howe was surprised that Wetton / Downes had written much of the material already when he arrived to work on the album. It was a less collaborative effort than the first album.

Totally agree with Pete about GnR. For me even appetite for destruction is largely filler. As for November rain, it's like when you see a really long movie and then buy the dvd and every time you see it on the shelf you think "I really don't want to give up that amount of time again"

I already mentioned that Discharge is the epitome of this, but Mayhem, Boston and Gun's n Roses are also great picks. The mention of Montrose reminded me of David Lee Roth's solo project. That went to total shit in a hurry. I would also add Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R.

I have always thought hat the first Thunder album was kickass, with great tunes like She's so fine, backstreet symphony, dirty love and love walked in. I couldn't name a tune off their 2nd album.

Poundhound--Pineappleskunk. Side project of Doug Pinnick from King's X. The first album, Massive Grooves, is a terrific groove metal album with a heavy emphasis on Pinnick's funky bass. Pineappleskunk--I used to own it, but I literally can't remember a single song from it. It's just forgettable. Cynic--Traced in the Air. Focus was probably my first introduction into death metal, and it's become one of my favorite metal albums from the 1990s (I think I first heard in around 2005 or 2006). Traced in the Air was never going to measure up, honestly, as a sophomore album coming 15 years later. It's not a bad album, but it's not as heavy or as memorable as the first for me. Led Zeppelin II. I don't remember if I bought this one first of if it was Untitled/4/Zoso, but for years those two were my only Zep albums. I rarely come back to II anymore. Did I get burned out on it? Did learning about Page's alleged plagiarisms sour me on the album? Is it just not as good as their other albums? It's probably some combination of all three, but I really only dig about half the songs nowadays. Rhinoceros--Satin Chickens.

Nice video, but I definitely disagree about Guns N' Roses. I actually consider Use Your Illusion I & II to be the strongest albums of the band. G'N'R Lies was a weaker second album, though, however, I also consider it to be good!

Hey Pete where you been all day? LOL. Love these Monday night shows always entertaining.

A show on Krokus would be intense, my God what changes

Matching Mole's "Little Red Record" (1972) - produced by the illustrious Robert Fripp with Eno in guest spots, found a band in the midst of internal decay after their beautifully experimental self titled debut and subsequent endless touring in support. Rumor has it that the guitar player Phil Miller and Fripp did not see eye to eye and it affected Phil's playing. It is a GREAT prog album but it suffers from control room tension and a claustrophobic production. The song versions on the live BBC recordings, "Smoke Signals", and "March" are all vastly superior. This would be the last recording with Robert Wyatt before his window accident and the following psych gloom prog masterpiece "Rock Bottom" produced by none other than Nick Mason.

Don't Look Back was my introduction to Boston! Feelin' Satisfied is my absolute favorite song from that album. Interesting choice, Pete.

I liked the second Fastway. The production on Trick or Treat sounded like it was underwater, or I probably would have liked it better. Everything after that wasn't good, in my opinion.

Great show! Couldn't think of better suggestions. Don't Look Back is excellent but admittedly it sounds like a freeze-dried version of one of the best albums of all time.

Fastway = Debut Awesome!!! second Album = NOT Awesome Zebra = Debut Awesome!!! Second Album SH&T!!!

Montrose's Paper Money is still a great album, definitely not as good as the first, but still love it!

Must see TV indeed!

Hi from the UK. Loving the Hudson Valley Squares. Good shout on Mindfunk. The debut is killer. Some of my choices of killer debuts but the 2nd album didn't really do it for me: 1. Disturbed 2. Skunk Anansie 3. Wintersun

Fights first album is a classic and there second album small deadly space is good but doesn't compare.

Love this group on Monday!!!

MOD was not a side project, but the main band of Billy Milano. He obviously tried to capitalize on SOD. I remember they were opening for another band in Montreal, CA. While waiting in line to get in he walked along the line to get in into the venue. It was funny because it took a few seconds to realize that the guy cutting the line was Billy. For me, it was Hallows Eve. Tales of Terror was great and the second was big let down, with a very clean production and no power.

Aahhh...Monday night. Time for a martini and Must See SoT....the Hudson Valley Squares. Great show, guys! Pete picked my top choice which would be Boston’s second album. But a more personal hatred goes to Second Coming by the Stone Roses. I loved the debut and still have not tired of listening to it all these years later. But Second Coming? An unbelievable disappointment which I listened to twice and then never again. I don’t know all the bands discussed but understand that feeling of such a letdown after a first album you loved. Keep up the great must see TV. Already looking forward to next week.

"Six albums of Filler" - pure comedy! Enjoy these sessions.

Axe also covered I Got The Fire

Here's a few sophomore clunkers from my experience in the punkier realm: Circle Jerks, David Johansen, Dead Kennedys, The Dictators, Wire, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, Television, DEVO, Dead Boys, and The Damned.

Lucifer's Friend. The debut is fucking epic, pretty much everything after it sucked. Pearl Jam. Good debut, nothing else did anything for me. Giuffria. Again, great debut followed by a really weak ballad heavy Silk and Steel

Bad Religion - Into the Unknown It's actually not a terrible album on its own. I just find it difficult to appreciate as a BR album. It was a complete change from punk to prog rock. Then the band released Back to the Known (EP) and have since released a ton of albums ranging from okay to excellent.

Zebra debut is hard rock masterpiece. Sophomore effort - No Tellin Lies, with exception of stellar track Bears, was quite a dropoff.

The more things change is not bad at all. Oddly enough I bought it at my local record store and I opened it up to find that it was a signed copy.