Update: Several perks have changed since this video; Buckle Up, STFBL (big nerf), Adrenaline (small nerf), MFT (big nerf), Ultimate Weapon (big nerf & rework). Plot Twist no longer auto-completes the box against Pinhead anymore, which is also positive.

The thing that annoys me the most about mft (other than stacking it with hope or for the people) is that it makes speed hackers even harder to identify.

Hoarder spawning 2 chests that are empty would be a super funny idea. It wastes their time, but those empty chests dont notify the killer.

The reason why Adrenaline wakes you up against Freddy is because in the movie Quentin literally saved Nancy by giving her adrenaline shot in the heart, which caused her to wake up and bring Freddy with her to the real world. I mean it's a cool feature imo, maybe kinda broken for poor Freddy mains but I guess it could stay in game if they would nerf adren in any other way

it’s cool how there’s a lot of people who quit dbd but still watch otz because of how good his content is

Very proud of Otz for restraining himself and condensing this to a mere 40 minutes instead of ranting for 30 straight hours about these perks

Left DBD years ago so haven't kept up with its meta and updates but still love watching Otz's content, so well researched and engaging, also a very wholesome, kind and open minded person that the world needs more of

I never see anyone talk about this but my friend brings it up fairly often and it's most glaring in general with specifically The Third Seal (which yes, no one runs it, but when it is run the effect is glaring with solo queue players) which is blindness as a whole. The blindness is absolutely PUNISHING to a solo queue player vs someone who is in a SWF. I can't tell you how many times I've been left to die over the last few years because our teammates couldn't see where I was hooked. I've also lost people's hook spots because of horrible short term memory causing me to forget where I saw the black bubble of doom.

I think what a lot of people tend to forget about is that just because it's not broken or unfair, doesn't mean it's healthy. There's a reason meme builds exist since bad perks can be fun, while on the other side, a perk can also be unfun and not meta at the same time as well.

As a killer main the main problem I don’t like is when I have to get my 60 page checklist before hitting a survivor to make sure they don’t have endurance it’s like. Did they heal someone and are injured:no Did they get unhooked within the last minute and a half:no Have they been hooked before:no Okay I can hit and then they still have endurance anyway from a random perk I forgot about why

The reason Adrenaline wakes you up against Freddy is more than likely a reference to the movie where Quentin wakes himself up with Adrenaline shots.

Buckle up should work like second wind, you have to perform a healing action for x amount of time and it activates the effect for like 5 seconds

The biggest problem with pentimento is the fact that solo queue teammates never seem to connect the dots with cleansing plaything and a sudden pentimento.

One thing that really catches me about a very large portion of the perks otz is talking about, otz has this caveat "if they send you to a certain map" ... this just helps reinforce to me one of the unhealthiest things in the game is map offerings. Like, think how many of these nasty perks if people are building around it are crippled if they're left up to normal map rpg.

One thing I hate about situational awareness, is the change they had to fearmonger/mind breaker, where being on a generator essentially makes this perk not work, negating it's entire purpose..

As a survivor I really don't mind being the target of Rancor. Knowing that you're in extra danger is pretty exciting and spices up how you play the endgame

Wouldnt it be funny if viktor (twins) slowly dragged survivors toward charlotte after a down and is left near a downed survivor to address the powerstruggle issue.

Fun fact relating to gen colors. Learned a while back that if a survivor has de ja vu and the killer kicks a highlighted gen with trail of torment, the survivor with de ja vu will still the gen as red. Can make it very hard to identify which is the affected gen

For ultimate weapon an idea to balance it is that it decreases your terror radius by several meters, so that it counts as a buff for killer, limits the range of the scream effect, and gives the survivors an early warning to the now stealthier killer. Another idea is making it to instead of making a survivor scream and interrupting their actions, it just reveals them with killer instinct and gives the survivor blindness

Ultimate Weapon + Xenomorph combo has to be the most obvious cash grab in gaming history.

I understand why healing was obliterated since it was too strong, but I really miss my 50/50 Autodidact build where I was either the most powerful being to exist, or essentially a perk less Carlos lol

A 40 minute otz video might as well be a KZfaq short.

8:43 Always good to see someone calling out what for me is the biggest problem in this game right now. Killers just don't have enough incentives to not just tunnel one survivor out into a 3v1

A fun idea for hoarder might be that it sets the number of chests in a trial to 1+ the number of items brought in by the survivors. It also takes the items from survivors and puts them, add-ons included, in a random chest in the map.

i still wonder how they thought about making buckle up give 10 seconds of endurance (FOR BOTH) was a good idea even if the game has so many endurance giving perks

I think that Spirit Fury has a similar effect to Coup, if you go against a SWF and it's been called out once, everyone will just pre-drop pallets and it'll just be a very boring chase.

Forced hesitation is sooo evil on the twins, when you down someone with Viktor and a nearby teammate tippy toes your way trying to kick viktor is so hilarious... but evil

I’m so glad Otz mentioned that deliverance countering killer perks is fine. So many killer perks and abilities counter survivor perks I really do think that could apply more, especially when builds like hyper focus stakeout can be completely countered just by being Michael or ghostie for example.

As a Game Designer and a DBD fan is so great watching you proposing little design changes to the game and your whole thinking process, love it!

Insidious is one of my favorite meme perks, the buff it unironically needs is to allow you to keep Undetectable if you move very slow at a walking/stalking speed so you can set up jumpscares from wack ass angles

Idea for Blood Rush: After coming off the hook, *Blood Rush* activates for 60 seconds. If you enter a chase within that 60 seconds, the timer is paused. If hit (regardless of health state) you gain the broken status effect, and the timer turns into a count down from 30/25/20 seconds. If you are not downed within that time frame, you are put into the Healthy health state, and gain a 3 seconds 150% haste speed boost. This ignores exhaustion, and causes it got 60/50/40 seconds. This perk ignores Deep Wounds when healing you. (meaning it still makes you healthy) Keep in mind, this would only work if they made this change to the unhooked status: Once unhooked, you gain no collision until you perform a conspicuous action. (This means no more body blocking as the unhooked, or body blocking the unhooked.)

Otz: tells people that buckle up is problematic because people use it with FTP Also Otz: tells people to run Buckle up and FTP in a previous video

I miss old buckle up. It was a god awful perk but that made it fun to use as a meme.

I feel that the problem with Dead by Daylight's current meta stems from the fact that the very commonly used anti-slugging and anti-tunneling perks can be overused and abused in ways they weren't intended to be. There are just too many different play styles to make the game fair in any regard.

I went against a 4 man swf all with Buckle up and for the people, that was a really rough game. Every down seemed to get denied. I managed to secure a 3k at the very very end due to a few mistakes on there part, along with me having the play really cut-throat near the end.

Of the killer perks in very or quite unhealthy tiers, Knock Out is the only one I truly agree is unhealthy because it's simply a perk that encourages slugging. It's why, in the same vein, I think Boil Over is very unhealthy because it encourages a killer to slug.

Here's a little fun fact about coulrophobia: Even if you use a syringe, if you're still inside the killer's terror radius, the syringe will take 50% longer to heal you

I’ve been hoping for this video for a while. I always wanted the full detailed rant on Otz’s problem perks.

I’m so glade someone made this video there’s so many perks that are either too strong or way too useless or have w bizarre condition or the worst are perks like better together that are outdated

Here's something nobody ever mentions about Pentimento. One of the four survivors knows exactly where your Pentimento is. After all, one of them cleansed it the first time. This is why I think it's okay that the Hex effect is so strong. Survivors simply have to return to the spot where they broke the totem and crack it again.

Ultimate Weapon needs to be right next to Buckle Up on the list...The duration and cooldown of the perk is just nasty. It essentially gives every k1ller Doctor's static blast power but stronger.

One thing people don't mention about buckle up is that there are already perks in the game that give you endurance for picking someone off the ground and they have much more complicated activation costs. Its like the devs knew how strong endurance was in the past but somehow forgot to give buckle up an activation cost when they buffed it.

Even when I'm not playing dbd, you keep me interested in the community and what's going on with the game. ❤❤

Hey otz, interesting idea for a buckle up change. What if when healing a survivor off the ground you get endurance for the amount of time/charges you actually healed. For example if you heal somebody who’s already recovered you only get about a second of endurance. Making the perk not entirely useless but punishing killers who give you time to fully heal the downed survivor

Hot Take: I honestly think all perks/items related to gen progression/regression are at least somewhat problematic. Gen speeds are so integral to the balance and pacing of the game that the existence of these elements creates a tug-of-war where both sides feel it required to bring something to help push the pacing in their favor. It encourages the same boring perks and items, and it discourages interesting builds on all but the strongest killers. It's obviously a big ask to rework everything related to gen speeds, but I think it could lead to a overall healthier game.

Honestly, I never thought I’d see “Mr Save the Best for Last” come out against the perk. I still think it’s a good perk just for the fact that it’s an equalizer between M1 killers and killers like Nurse or Blight. M1 killers have so little going for them nowadays, they need everything they can get.

I remember once either seeing from someone else or hypothesizing by myself that Insidious can be reworked into still activating undetectable when you stand still for a few seconds, but it only disappears when you attack, and slows you down by 10% when active. That way, it can give pseudo-stealth to less Stealth-oriented killers, at the cost of the momentum loss of standing still for 2 seconds and the movespeed decrease.

I love the change you proposed for noed! Super creative!

Absolutely love Otzdarva-analytics videos. Always insightful. Thinking entartains me))) Tough topics have to be discussed even though judgement is regularly clouded about them. Good job, Otz! Don't forget to be awesome

Barely play DBD (around 60-70 hours, not as fun as watching it for some reason), but you're really refreshing to watch. Positive energy all round!

For Ultimate Weapon, I think the simplest solution would be a higher CD... so you have to think very carefully when do you want to use it. Yes, you can use it whenever you want, but at what cost...

I love these kinds of vids. Just chill otz ranting about perks. 😊

I've played this game on and off for 6+ years now, and I am still blown away at how little I know in comparison to Otz. Always love these types of videos!

Thwack makes survivors near you at the exact moment scream. Why not do that for Ultimate Weapon, too? When a Nurse or Blight can travel across an entire map within its entire duration and get to see everyone for free, that is what makes a perk like that even more unhealthy. Also, maybe make the cooldown longer

knight with all of his 3 perks on the list 💀

Main problem i have with MFT is, that it makes already weak killer alot weaker. Blight, nurse, spirit, oni give a shit about your MFT. It hurts Killers like legion, GF, Trapper, Myers and 110% killers. Especially that there is literally no downside to the perk at all. Getting injured is part of the game and just for that you get a huge bonus like that. Its actually brutal how much it extends a chase against those killers while there is almost no effect against the top tier ones.

Thank you Otz for your informative views on the current states of perks. I mainly only play survivor since I like to play the game with friends and it helps to rationalize the problems for the other side. Overall the information was short concise and got the points across in a nice way. I love the content and will always look forward to more.

I totally agree with the Coulrophobia one, i face lots of weskers that send you to small indoor maps where you spend the most time in one place (like R.P.D) and it's actually impossible to heal, if they have a build around it you just can't heal

I've got a few points with some of the killer perks, if people wanna reply with some counters to the SURVIVOR perks he mentions, I'd like to see. 1. STBFL doesn't do much on great killers, but makes bad killers better. 2. Forced Hesitation might be better if you tunnel, but like you said, many perks are. 3. Pain Res literally only works 4 times in a match and can only affect 4 generators a game. As well as it's limited by the RNG of the hook spawns. 4. Ultimate Weapon doesn't have a short timer. 30 seconds isn't that short. I agree it does a bit much like the lockers not hiding the scream and the blindness, but it's not that unhealthy. 5. Coul only works if you go full hog on the build. Even then, you don't HAVE to heal. 6. Coup is gonna get you a few hits per game. And doesn't work with the best killers. Much like STBFL, it makes bad killers better, but not as much.

Here is one of MANY examples why MFT broke DBD looping, for example, it makes running the top side of Grim Pantry main building an INFINITE even if you run it THE WRONG WAY AROUND!

I was curious to see the argument against adrenaline. The waking up part is because you get a shot of, as the name suggests, adrenaline. It makes sense realistically you would be woken up but gameplay wise it does hurt Freddy a little. (I say a little because they aren’t immune to the dreamworld and if they get hit off hook they go straight back into it.) As for Adrenaline not working while being carried after being hooked, it previously did work this way. However BHVR has made it clear that was not the way they intended the perk to work and changed it to its current state. So I highly doubt Adrenaline is going to get any changes in the near future. If I eat my words about that soon that’s okay.

I feel like pentimento as a concept isn't an issue, I think it's just the numbers, if they changed it to 10/15/20% instead of it's current 20/25/30% it would be in a much better position. Right now it's just so oppressive that people are using it as the core of there builds rather than as the fall back for when there hex builds fail. My only real counter argument for nerfing STBFL is to agree with your issue's about other perks, because without STBFL the killer is so punished by things like Buckle up, Adrenaline, Made For This, and BT/Base BT that you can't realistically nerf STBFL until those are taken care of.

People complaining about perks that will activate once a game *maybe* will always be hilarious to me. What do you mean nerf Adrenaline and Deliverance? Most of the time they're a wasted perk slot 😭

Calm Spirit might could do with adding a Vigil affect against the Oblivious condition. "Your calmness allows you to quickly understand your surroundings," or whatever

Forced Hesitation is a weird one, one of my favorite uses was pairing it with Make Your Choice. That way if the 2 survivors stuck together to heal, either person that goes down will sandbag the other. It actually allows me to take finish other chases with the potential for insane value after finishing the chase you started before the unhook. Its just especially toxic if paired with movement killers like Dredge, who can just teleport to the unhook after MYC triggers. It also gets more value out of STBFL which is already absurdly strong.

I'd move ultimate weapon up a tier or 2. It's insane how quick the cooldown is, that it makes the best killers even more powerful and that, aside from revealing survivors, also makes them blind. I don't even know how to fix it, its so incredibly broken. Maybe double the cooldown? Would also solve the pig box problem.

Forced Hesitation: One of my favorite killers' Perks! I honestly think it probably shouldn't activate unless it can actually affect a survivor and otherwise I think it's fine. Punishing survivors for altruism is something that an intense number of other killers perks do already, and after the Background player buff, I think this perk is perfectly ine.

For Rancor, maybe a condition that needs to be met, i.e. an action that either the survivors or killer need to complete in order for a survivor to be chosen, rather than a random selection. of course other obsession perks may affect who ultimately gets exposed. Or remove the exposed status affect so it's not so similar to noed and just make everyone moriable >:)

Stbfl should not gain tokens on endurance hits. Or even lose 1 token on endurance hits. This imo is problematic especially when a killer farms against an unhooked survivor (and if he already has high tokens, this can be an action that has no punishment for the killer)

I LOVE seeing and trying stealth gameplay in DBD. For Insidious, what if it was a scourge hook that gave the killer a few seconds of undetectable and reduced the hooked survivors sight (e.g. Dredge Nightfall) for a similar/same amount of time? Interested to hear thoughts on that. Feel like it could be spooky and fun.

I feel like Coulrophobia's main issue Otz is that, while yes on its own it may not be too good, it works with other perks that affect terror radius like Dark Devotion and Distressing, and then because of the secondary effect on skill checks, can also work with Huntress Lullaby among other things. At the very least they could either reduce the skill check speed debuff, considering that again, it works with other perks that affect skill checks, or even just remove that part entirely and only have it slow down healing speed, that way it can still see some practical use with Sloppy Butcher which is currently a niche perk. Maybe they could even tweak the perk so that it just has a radius of 32 meters around you, that way terror radius perks don't make the debuff feel oppressive, and you don't end up in scenarios where a Survivor is across the map but is having trouble healing due themselves or someone because of Dark Devotion and Coulrophobia working together

"I don't ever cleanse my plaything" -not Otzdarva

I don’t even play this game. I watch these vids for chad Otz 😎

Okay, i didnt even watch the video yet but pentimento is totally fine. Becuse i always forget to light up the totems

I don't agree with everything, and have just a different perspective on some things, but ultimately I think this is a super interesting and important subject that I've considered from the 1st month of playing DBD ever. There should definitely be a "healthy perks" series so you can illustrate how fun and healthy competition can be achieved and squash the idea that "it's just a game, if you're not having fun, it's a you problem (or skill issue)"

Didn’t even realize deadlock was bugged, thanks for mentioning it

In regards to pentimento, I personally have started bringing 1 boon perk to 90% of my games just in case there’s totems hexed

It's still funny how the buff the funny lunge perk is the closest thing to a twins buff well get, and then right after, it becomes an unhealthy perk

Thanks for putting this out there, now solo ques are going to only be these lmao

I actually use forced hesitation against FTP using survivors. Combined with STBFL, you can down and hit the survivor coming in for the save before they can use their perk. With how often i run into that perj combo it really helps.

Exceptional idea for shattered hope. I think if they choose to keep pentimento the same, they could maybe add a 2 minute timer or something on the broken totem before it can be pentimento'ed

im surprised not to see distortion on this list, most distortion users play super inmersed, and the perk completely kills aura builds wich can most of the time be more fun than 4 slowdowns

I watched this video when I had barely started to get back into the game. After catching up a bit this video is so unbelievably understandable.

Otz you should make a quick guide on how to counter Boil over, just by turning away from whichever side youre getting pulled towards, so the pull becomes a push in the direction you wanna go.

For STBFL i really think the most recently unhooked survivor should become the obsession. Hitting a survivor off hook or tunneling that survivor would guarantee a loss of stacks. The only issue i see with that tho is that perks like OTR and BT can become a bit more nasty.

I feel like ultimate weapon should be in the second row but ive also slowed down playing survivor because of it so maybe theres something I don't know. I believe the best thing that can happen to it is give it something like thwack though.

Calm Spirit could get buffed by either making it take longer for certain status effects to kick in, like Sadako's condemned or Plague's infection rate, or it could slow the needle down on skill checks to counter Coulrophobia.

Hey Otz (darva patent pending), thank you for the incredible video! Also wanted to say you look mighty handsome in the thumbnail too. Good job all around really

I'm glad you bring up Ultimate Weapon, there is no perk in the game I find more frustrating to go against, speaking as a beginner/intermediate survivor. Its cooldown being the same as its duration, how easily it can combo with perks like DMS, that it works even if you hop in a locker, and how it makes you blind even if you run calm spirit are all quite obnoxious. The biggest annoyance for me however is when the killer gets their first hook of a match and then uses this perk for the first time and blinds the whole team with it. I don't always remember or have a good angle to see the bubble where they got hooked, so when this perk activates many times that 30 second blind guarantees I won't find them until stage 2 of the hook, especially if I wasn't originally going to go for the rescue but the person who went after them starts getting chased. It really feels like it punishes solo and newer players really really hard and in an unfun and unavoidable manner.

I would love to see ultimate weapon only work if you don't start a chase for a long time so you can just find someone then

Oh, so that Ultimate Weapon is the reason why so many survs recently run Calm Spirit. I think about 3 perks worth mentioning - Sloppy is still bugged and causes survivors to heal downed survivor way slower (and it's bugged, because it's the only mangled effect doing that, unless it's just an UI bug, but only Sloppy makes the bar red and it feels like it's slower). Jolt is also bugged to the point that Survivors have no way to know if they deal with Jolt or Eruption (later possibly putting them in danger because of that), plus Jolt can trigger DMS right now. It's insanely rare, but if it happens it can make the game. And there's Franklin's that basically negates an offering survivor can make (White Ward), because it requires the survivor to hold the item while dying to take effect, but with Franklin's it's very likely the survivor won't be doing that. Technically since the killer sees what survivors bring, if they see a key or a map they might assume it's for challenge (often it's an iri item, since they are the least useless or just challenge requires an iri) and bring Franklin's just so they could screw the survivor, then even if survivor would bring item protection, they will lose it. But even without that, Franklin's overall feels like a very unpleasant perk to face as a survivor, (not to mention there are already 2 killers (2.5 if we're counting Plague and medkits) that outright prevent survivors from using items, Singularity with EMPs and Sadako with tapes, but that's an item and design issue, not perk issue). I fully agree with STBFL, too many obsessions just choose to ignore that killer needs to hit them (same stuff with Dying Light, where they avoid killer, letting them hook others, but I love to be the obsession with that perk and forcing killer to hook me, and then tunnel me to second stage) and so many killers just abuse that perk to not lose stacks ever, maybe it should just lose stacks on special hits as well? For NOED, I think the best idea would be to give it Face the Darkness effect, where it is active if all survivors are standing, but deactivates once one survivor is hooked/downed/carried. 2 totems idea will inevetibly cause it to have isses like Pentimento/Hoarder that will punish players for doing challenges/points/pips/having nieche perks.

My take on NOED and Hyperfocus -Hyperfocus: essentially trigger merciless storm on yourself. while working on a generator activate the perk to recieve 10 consecutive skillchecks, each skillcheck hit counts as a great skill check but every consecutive skillcheck zone becomes slightly smaller than the previous, starting from something the size of an autodidact skillcheck down to about the size of an overcharge skillcheck. Increases the skillcheck rotation speed by 10%. Perk has a cooldown of 75/65/55 seconds (doesnt go into cooldown until all skillchecks have been completed or any got interrupted). Missing any of the skillchecks or letting go of the gen is the same as missing normal skillchecks (loud noise + -10%). Merciless Storm does interrupt and overtake the effects of hyperfocus. This does not damage the gen and the perk goes on cooldown. -NOED: Mixing old with new NOED, Keep the 4% haste aslong as the totem is up, survivors are inflicted with the exposed status effect, once a survivor enters the dying state the exposed effect lingers for 40/50/60 seconds after which it will be disabled (the exposed effect not the haste). Remove the aura reveal of the totem. Hyperfocus i think this way removes the luck aspect of it while keeping true to the fact youve to focus and with NOED i understand that this way there is still potential for hook camping with it but to me thats more an issues with camping and exposed as a whole. Some ridiculous fix would be something like giving any exposed survivor endurance while the killer is within 24 meters of the hook. I dont know if this effect would/should work on killers with base kit exposed properties or other exposed perks.

The problem with things like Pentimento is that is is incredibly strong against solo que and much much weaker against SWF who can just say "oh yeah the 1 totem we've collectively cleansed is in shack someone go get rid of it again". If BHVR doesn't want to give killers an outright buff againt SWF then they need to be much more aware of that sort of thing when designing perks

I think the best thing to do with Ultimate Weapon is to remove the duration. Just make it so that it works after you open a locker and if no survivors are in your terror radius nobody screams and then it goes on cooldown.

Pentimento is the only reason to not instantly cleanse any hex perk you see. Haunted grounds is a joke pretty much.

Idk if it's been patched now but a few weeks ago me and my friend noticed killers with no terror radius and we were wondering why, found out that Deja Vu blocks the yellow aura from Trsil of Torment, no clue if it's a bug or not

I think that having perks that benefit specific killers speaks less about the flaws of the perk and more about the design choices for the killer. At that point, rework the killers instead, i believe that it would result in a much healthier state for the game

Perks that work well when paired with other perks shouldn’t be nerfed. If you’re running a build just to get value out of an ordinarily weak perk, your efforts should be rewarded. Like the impossible skill check build, the perks individually such as Distressing, Overwhelming Pressence, etc. are pretty meh on their own, but complement each other extremely well. Just my take on it.

@otzdarva what do you think about dredges who hook someone then get in a locker 5 ft away from the hook😂

Adrenaline punishes campers. You want to hook and then camp me when the last gen pops? Ok just know I won't be an easy down. That's it's purpose.