Raptors in 'no win' situation ahead of NBA Draft Lottery

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17 күн бұрын

The NBA draft lottery takes place on Sunday afternoon and there's a lot at stake for the Raptors. Toronto owns the sixth best odds at winning the first overall selection but have even higher odds of losing their draft pick all together. Josh Lewenberg breaks down the 'no-win scenario' the Raptors put themselves in.

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@heyjoey009
@heyjoey009 15 күн бұрын
The fact that everyone is calling this year lottery the worse means a very big star will shine from the group.
@MYBallinWorld
@MYBallinWorld 14 күн бұрын
What about pick Bluin Lofulo ? He Had 6-4 in height, 6-11 in arm span and 25cm in palm width. He is point guard
@mejason4
@mejason4 15 күн бұрын
Massai ujuri messed up the team all because he was too stubborn to trade pascal and fred vanvleet sooner
@AgentGrimm-809
@AgentGrimm-809 15 күн бұрын
We should never have traded Pascal.
@SidiousPalp
@SidiousPalp 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, it was the total and complete wrong evaluation at that deadline that year that really was the critical error.
@thomasmontgomery805
@thomasmontgomery805 14 күн бұрын
@@AgentGrimm-809 bro he was holding Scottie back we have won nothing since kawhi left we needed to rebuild
@AgentGrimm-809
@AgentGrimm-809 14 күн бұрын
@@thomasmontgomery805 Scotty will take the same time offensively to become an elite scorer. He has some serious work he has to put into developing his offence. Besides RJ seems to be the one ready to take the next step. Are you Scotty fans going to say the same thing about RJ? That he is going to stop Scotty growth? Scotty needs to be able develop his skills alongside good talented players.
@damiendolce1081
@damiendolce1081 14 күн бұрын
We got 2 picks that are higher than Pascal and Fred drafted numbers. So wait and see who we draft before your assessment
@rulz2663
@rulz2663 16 күн бұрын
Fred, NN and Siakam played Masai like a cheap violin… They did a 180 on the culture.
@savvyguy1353
@savvyguy1353 15 күн бұрын
He got cooked my guy.
@cormacmacaongusa
@cormacmacaongusa 15 күн бұрын
You can't blame them, they gave it their all. Masai made big mistakes
@Death4K
@Death4K 15 күн бұрын
Jacob poetl was such a electrifying talent that Masai just had to Overpay and handicap the team
@ppcbernier9945
@ppcbernier9945 15 күн бұрын
He was the most efficient low post scorer in the NBA this season. Tf u crying about casual
@thomasmontgomery805
@thomasmontgomery805 15 күн бұрын
@@ppcbernier9945who cares DID HE HELP US WIN MF?
@cormacmacaongusa
@cormacmacaongusa 15 күн бұрын
​@@ppcbernier9945 who the fuck cares lol, it was a terrible trade
@ppcbernier9945
@ppcbernier9945 15 күн бұрын
@thomasmontgomery805 such a casual take. Imagine being so casual that you judge trades a year after they're made 😆 🤣 😂
@ppcbernier9945
@ppcbernier9945 15 күн бұрын
@cormacmacaongusa how? Raptors had no centre or big body interior scoring. I'm curious how you casuals think, it's fascinating 🤔
@toppatop21
@toppatop21 15 күн бұрын
Wasn't Josh Lewenberg one of the ones that wanted to keep Fred and Pascal here? Now because we didn't trade them early enough we're screwed! Josh L and Michael Grange are the most misinformed members of our media!
@diego5125
@diego5125 15 күн бұрын
Josh Lewenberg is the real TROJAN HORSE. Since his bf Fred BumVleet left, Josh has been in a mood of attacking Masai and the raptors. Poor Josh. He should've moved to Houston with BumVleet...
@johnnydepp4866
@johnnydepp4866 15 күн бұрын
If one team moves up the raptors are screwed, unless they also got to move up
@Reardon.
@Reardon. 16 күн бұрын
Let's all use our heads for this one in what universe is giving up 7th better than 15?
@raymendez3403
@raymendez3403 15 күн бұрын
it's better if you're the spurs :)
@Reardon.
@Reardon. 15 күн бұрын
@@raymendez3403 guess josh is a spurs fan then lol
@windowman9665
@windowman9665 15 күн бұрын
This guy is an absolute goof. I hate Josh L. Him and grange are a joke
@diego5125
@diego5125 15 күн бұрын
totally agree.......
@savvyguy1353
@savvyguy1353 16 күн бұрын
Masai should be termed. Absolutely mismanagement of assets for zero returns
@justanobody0
@justanobody0 16 күн бұрын
1. I take it you dislike Quickley and RJ considering you call them "zero returns" 2. Even if your goal was draft capital, we got back 3 picks for Pascal
@IceManLikeGervin
@IceManLikeGervin 16 күн бұрын
@@justanobody0 Siakam brought back 2 non Lottery FRPs (one 2024 FRP was traded to Utah) and bench fodder: Olynyk, Agbaji, Nwora and Brown. OG, Achiuwa, Flynn brought back 2 starters. Poeltl may return a Top 10 Lottery pick to SA. That being said if Masai goes the Raptors will be even more of a dumpster fire. Masai needs to hit on these draft picks and bring in some contributing free agent vets not Garrett Temple towel wavers. I hope Masai can get rid of Brown because at 23 million for 2024-25 that is a garbage contract. Brown, Boucher, filler for Andrew Wiggins, filler... give GS some salary cap relief and the Raps a top wing defender to replace OG.
@savvyguy1353
@savvyguy1353 15 күн бұрын
@@justanobody0 all garbage late teen type picks. Those picks give you nothing to work off of. RJ and Quickley also are not building blocks. Lastly embarrassed himself by getting nothing for chunky van vleet
@justanobody0
@justanobody0 15 күн бұрын
@@savvyguy1353 1. Pascal was a late first rounder something like 27. OG was a 23rd pick. Jokic was a mid 2nd rounder. Marc Gasol was a mid 2nd rounder the idea that a late first round pick, or a pick in the teens can't be good, I don't know what to say to that 2. "RJ and Quickley also are not building blocks" Tell me who is a building block. Why aren't they building blocks in your opinon 3. embarassed himself by getting nothing for chunky van vleet obviously Masai viewed the Raptors with all the talent we had to be worthy of giving them a shot at making a good push and not trading a player that was very important to them having success. Our offense basically ran through Van Vleet, and if we traded him, then it wouldn't be expected we go 41-41
@robertomaldonado2723
@robertomaldonado2723 15 күн бұрын
He owed the spurs one after the kawhi trade. I do think Jakob is a good player though but the fit is questionable
@TexanInItaly
@TexanInItaly 15 күн бұрын
Just give the pick to us, we will find someone at 7.
@briansella2839
@briansella2839 15 күн бұрын
This is a weak draft, do we want a pick that's 7 or less? Will that player be better than Yak? Will a 6th/7th/8th/ pick this season be better than pick(s) we could possibly get next season in a stronger draft if we trade Yak? Yah, its a Win/Win.
@thomasmontgomery805
@thomasmontgomery805 14 күн бұрын
His name is jacob not yak and we should have never trade for his MID ass in the first place
@David-ni3dj
@David-ni3dj 14 күн бұрын
The Raptors need a new embassador.
@urbanmonk6774
@urbanmonk6774 15 күн бұрын
TSN raptors coverage is absolute trash.
@rick8602
@rick8602 15 күн бұрын
These guys are not real basketball analysts. Where is Sherm!???
@gundinaganda2817
@gundinaganda2817 14 күн бұрын
They have to trade Masai now
@Cushtic
@Cushtic 15 күн бұрын
Fire masai!!!!!!!
@Doug5614
@Doug5614 15 күн бұрын
As if draft pick matter... they don't. The Raptors have put themselves in a position where draft picks her all they have to look forward to. It's trades with for significant players with other teams that will get them into discussions of winning a championship. By the time these draft picks start to matter (if they even ever do), contracts for today's main players on the team will be expiring.
@eeriekekashi419
@eeriekekashi419 15 күн бұрын
That’s not true at all. If you land a top 5 pick they can usually provide some use on the floor. If we had all our draft picks before making the Jakob trade, we could have been adding lotto picks to the lineup which is good for the team. Who are you trading for that supposed significant player? Chris Boucher? We got no one besides Scottie to trade and he’s our guy so that’s not happening
@Doug5614
@Doug5614 15 күн бұрын
@@eeriekekashi419 I'm not going to waste my time trying to do the front office's job. They're going to do what they see fit anyways. But I will tell you this... When it comes for Scottie's contract to be renewed (and the clock is ticking on that one) , Mr. Rookie of the year and Mr. All-Star is going to be commanding a max deal. If the Raptors don't have things figured out how to be true contenders by then, Scottie's gonna walk and go somewhere he's got a better chance to win. Connections and quiet discussions are had at All-Star weekends.
@user-uh6vc5bi2p
@user-uh6vc5bi2p 16 күн бұрын
We need this pick. Gods will be Done In Jesus name
@windowman9665
@windowman9665 15 күн бұрын
We got Ochai and Kelly for a 29th pick. That’s awesome value. We still have to see what happens with the 19th pick (pacers pick), what we do with bruce brown , and also the 2026 first from pacers. So shut up. Chill out. None of you could do a fraction the job masai and Bobby are doing so go back into mom and dad’s basement, shut the door, and go to sleep. Wake up in 2026 when we see what the results are.
@pampermenetwork
@pampermenetwork 15 күн бұрын
Totally agree.
@nickrael5693
@nickrael5693 16 күн бұрын
We will be just as bad next year as we were this year best option to keep this year's pick add top end talent right away, then tank again next season keep the pick again and then it conveys into 2nd round picks. But at the end of the day this is all masai's and Bobby's fault. For being buyers when we should have been seller and could have gotten much better value for OG and Pascal and even Fred. Please get rid of this FO we need new leadership
@raph8505
@raph8505 16 күн бұрын
I'm with yea, we essentially hot nothing from the Pascal trade and let Fred walk. But I'm a big fan of the OG trade, pretty much a win for both teams. It's just OG is currently injured and could probs miss important games for the Knicks
@justanobody0
@justanobody0 16 күн бұрын
@@raph8505 we got 3 first round picks in the Pascal trade
@savvyguy1353
@savvyguy1353 15 күн бұрын
Raptors are stuck for 4-5 years easy
@northstar1060
@northstar1060 15 күн бұрын
29 teams are not going to win the championship this year
@Anthony-nd6vk
@Anthony-nd6vk 15 күн бұрын
We fleeced y’all 🤠🫡 go spurs go!
@boshahrokhi3752
@boshahrokhi3752 15 күн бұрын
Maybe we will be bad enough to keep this years and next years deaft 😅
@mattchancey3202
@mattchancey3202 15 күн бұрын
Bring back Oliver Miller. He was unstoppable.
@snarkmark2806
@snarkmark2806 14 күн бұрын
lol, Raps.
@user-vr4jz4tj3w
@user-vr4jz4tj3w 15 күн бұрын
Maybe if we can get our 2025 pick back unless we still got it im a raptors fan and think somebody like a dypan harper tre johnson or sokebody in 2025 qould be amazing for toronto but nope lets not be smart trash draft class and we probably gonna pick some bum 😢
@heidimueller1039
@heidimueller1039 16 күн бұрын
You sold away all the good Raptors. How to destroy a great team, 101!
@justanobody0
@justanobody0 16 күн бұрын
well, tell that to all the youtubers saying we needed to trade Pascal, and OG away
@pampermenetwork
@pampermenetwork 15 күн бұрын
Those boys were not winning (and would have cost too much money). Give it a rest already.
@diego5125
@diego5125 15 күн бұрын
Nice to play with someone's else money.....
@SidiousPalp
@SidiousPalp 15 күн бұрын
Well they definitely didn't win lol
@ScottiePimpin416
@ScottiePimpin416 15 күн бұрын
Fred shouldve followed Kyle Lowry’s footsteps and stayed with the team. But then again, Toronto has the worst politicians and way of life is horrible. Who would want to play here. WNBA going to prioritize that team over raptors. Were cooked for the next 10years.
@Andrew-nu4hi
@Andrew-nu4hi 16 күн бұрын
Fire Masai
@mikeyjames
@mikeyjames 15 күн бұрын
Yes fire the only guy that have won a meaningful championship in probably your lifetime in this country.
@Gilgunderson86
@Gilgunderson86 16 күн бұрын
Why is Masai here? Or Bobby? Ohh right Giants of Africa. That will help us get a chip.
@small_blue_bird
@small_blue_bird 16 күн бұрын
I mean, they literally did get us our only one ever.
@Gilgunderson86
@Gilgunderson86 16 күн бұрын
@@small_blue_bird been 5 years. I know they did but for how long do we hold on to that? It’s been a rough few years now and it’s not looking great for next year either….
@small_blue_bird
@small_blue_bird 16 күн бұрын
​@@Gilgunderson86I'm not saying you just hold on to that forever, but lets not also be victims of the moment either. They've mismanaged a lot of assets and carried out absolutely pitiful roster construction the last few years. But even these last few years they've made some decent moves like: drafting Scottie over Suggs, drafting Grady, turning Og who was likely to walk into Quickly and Barrett. Lets also see what they do with the Picks they got for Pascal. I'm also not just gonna completely ignore all the great moves this front office made in the 2010's because they didn't happen recently. The list is ridiculous: The Bargnani trade, the Gay Trade, Turning Grievis Vasquez into OG and Norm 😂, getting Ibaka, getting Gasol, getting Lowry, getting Leonard, drafting Pascal, Firing Casey for Nurse, signing undrafted Fred. If they continue to drop the ball they 100% do gotta go but I'm not entirely sure yet if they are incapable of turning it around. And if the team is atrocious next year, then good. 😂 We're rebuilding the worse the better.
@dickvandyke673
@dickvandyke673 15 күн бұрын
@@Gilgunderson86 be grateful. Been a Raptors fan since day 1 and I truly believed and accepted the franchise probably wont see a ring in my lifetime as Torontos always been bottom of the barrel as a free agent destination. Through savvy drafting, great development of talent and ballsy trades (with a bit of luck no doubt) we can call ourselves a championship city. In all likelihood itll be decades before it happens again, so yes hold on to that memory! :)
@Gilgunderson86
@Gilgunderson86 15 күн бұрын
@@small_blue_bird can’t argue with your articulate response :) let’s just agree that we both want this next season to be much better than last year :)
@huzaifahdin6804
@huzaifahdin6804 15 күн бұрын
need a change in the management, too many bad decisions. Losing our picks, siging Poetl, not re-signing or trading FVV was a big loss. They could've moved everyone in the summer and postured themselves for a top 3 pick.
@jamaldee2355
@jamaldee2355 15 күн бұрын
The raptors are garbage!!!!
@diego5125
@diego5125 15 күн бұрын
you sound like a LeQueen James lover. How's he doing with his Fakers? Troll..........
@rubybaby5811
@rubybaby5811 15 күн бұрын
How long did it take for you to make up this ‘brilliant’ comment?
@jamaldee2355
@jamaldee2355 15 күн бұрын
@@rubybaby5811 just stating the facts and I can’t stand Toronto fans
@thomasmontgomery805
@thomasmontgomery805 15 күн бұрын
I never wanted jacob white centres suck
@davedeonarain8150
@davedeonarain8150 15 күн бұрын
Look at Masai's record since his time in Denver. He's a disaster of a GM. Fire him.
@pampermenetwork
@pampermenetwork 15 күн бұрын
Such nonsense. The man only had a ten year run that birthed the 2nd winningest team in the League behind Golden State (and the 5th most wins since 2013). Two of those years saw the Raptors have to deal with the pandemic, and one year having to play an entire season on the road. Give it up, man.
@mikeyjames
@mikeyjames 15 күн бұрын
Yes let’s completely ignore the championship he won here that no other GM in this country can seem to do. Go back to watching a hockey team in this country that will never win a cup buddy.
@thomasmontgomery805
@thomasmontgomery805 14 күн бұрын
Fire Masai
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