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RARE WW2 API Ammo from FINLAND - TESTED!

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TAOFLEDERMAUS

TAOFLEDERMAUS

Күн бұрын

A viewer named John donated some rare and unusual ammo for us to test out. This is Finnish 7.62x54R, and was captured from the Russians and re-used. The condition of these were pretty rough. Bullets that were not fully-seated, dents in the cases, and very grimy. Will these even function after over 80 years stored in just a cardboard box?
John did mention he believed these were used for the ShKAS MG.

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@jvihavainen6705
@jvihavainen6705 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. D-ps-sy are abbreviations indicating D-type (= boat-tail) bullet, armor piercing incendiary. I have Finnish WW2-era ammunition manuals, so I checked them. A287 marked in the box is Finnish military ammunition inventory number, which indicates steel-cased Soviet 7.62 x 54R AP-incendiary ammunition without stripper clips. The ammunition type is intended for piercing some armor and then igniting flammable liquid or gas behind the armor - so basically designed for shooting aircraft and setting its (often lightly armored) gas-tank on fire. The Soviets referred the bullet type as B-32. Tip of the bullet contains incendiary mix and is intended to fall apart and ignite while bullet pierces armor and inside the bullet behind it is hard steel penetrator. According manual muzzle velocity was 860 - 875 meters /second. Ammunition manufacturer is marked in headstamp and known factories to produce this ammo included factories 60 (Lugansk), 17 (Podolsk), 46 (Kuntzevo / Jekaterinburg) and 529 (Novaja Ljalja).
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I was counting out someone to fill in the blanks
@flyfin108
@flyfin108 Жыл бұрын
voting to be pinned ;)
@Asko83
@Asko83 Жыл бұрын
I would like to add that the date of "inspection" is from before Continuation War (between Finland and Soviet Union) was over. So to me this implies that these cartridges were looted from Red Army troops by the Finnish Army and then repacked for use by the Finns. That could explain the dents and poor conditions as damage the ammo got before it was deemed "still good enough for use" and packed by Finns. Considering that these were meant for shooting at planes... Either Finnish troops conquered a position that had these for AA Maxim machineguns. OR Finns shot down a Soviet planet that was carrying guns loaded with these and then went through the ammo belts on the wreckage and decided that these particular rounds are "still good." And yes, since the pack says "inspection date" I really assume that someone went through looted ammo and checked each one to see if they could be packed and used by Finns or the condition was too dangerous seeming and even the dented round was deemed good enough...
@Dr_Mario2007
@Dr_Mario2007 Жыл бұрын
I agree, pin the comment! 👍 It was what I thought, as tips of the bullets just gave it away that it was clearly an incendiary round. Thanks for filling in! It's always good to know exactly what it is.
@Dr_Mario2007
@Dr_Mario2007 Жыл бұрын
​@@Asko83 That would make the most sense for why they're repackaged.
@plantmaniowa8168
@plantmaniowa8168 Жыл бұрын
Those rounds are for 1930- WWII soviet aircraft. They ran those through the ShKAS machine gun. Armor piercing incendiary rounds.
@VeritasEtAequitas
@VeritasEtAequitas 8 ай бұрын
Was the D-round not also used for the modified Finnish captured Mosin-Nagants with D-stamped barrels?
@Grobut81
@Grobut81 2 ай бұрын
Correct. But like everyone else, the Ruskies quickly discovered that Aircraft technology had outpaced the 7.62's usefullness, so the ShKAS LMG's were phased out for the 12.7mm UB HMG as quickly as possible. This rendered tons and tons of these AP-Incendiary rounds that had been made for aircraft use obsolete. Well, waste not want not, so they ended up getting used by Russian snipers quite often, and sometimes LMG crews would get their hands on them aswell.
@nuclearmedicineman6270
@nuclearmedicineman6270 Жыл бұрын
Kiv. Patr. is short for Kiväärin Patruuna (Rifle Cartridge). D is the designation of a boat tail bullet, PS is armor piercing, SY is incendiary. Based on the box, it's a Russian made armor piercing incendiary, a B-32 7.62x54R. Packaged before the end of the continuation war, so It's captured enemy ammo, which could explain why they look like they've been through a war. Likely surplussed because a Finnish 54R is actually 53R; they're mostly interchangeable, but not the same. It's like the difference between .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO. You should be able to use a 54R if 53R isn't available (there's only a thou or so difference in length), but it's not recommended. Once the war was over, domestic production would have made Russian ammo unnecessary to stock.
@SeersantLoom
@SeersantLoom Жыл бұрын
I kind of remember russian 7.62 is a little different caliber than what we usually think as 7.62. It should be tad larger.
@lukerhode8960
@lukerhode8960 Жыл бұрын
@@SeersantLoom Yeah, it has a bullet diameter around .312 as opposed to .308 for American/Nato 7.62 if memory serves.
@MrEshah
@MrEshah Жыл бұрын
The russian caliber is 7.62x54R where as the finnish is 7.62x53R so the russian casing is slightly longer than the finnish one and the bullet is 0,07mm bigger in diameter. Which also means that it was good that they used a russian barrelled rifle to test these as the cartridge might have not seated properly in the chamber of a barrel made for the finnish caliber.
@greycorbie224
@greycorbie224 Жыл бұрын
I think you are right with the bullet type. In the 80s I served in the East German Airforce and I remember the different types of AK ammo we had: a red/black bullet tip meant armor piercing/incendiary!
@vihreelinja4743
@vihreelinja4743 Жыл бұрын
my memory say that Finnish bored the guns in a way that Finnish guns can shoot Russian ammo but Russian weapons can NOT shoot Finnish ammo. so the Finnish ammo should be a tad bigger to not fit a Russian bore. i just cant remember what weapons were made like this :D
@noahcount7132
@noahcount7132 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy Ryan being the designated TFM shooter. His remarks/comments are every bit as off the wall as OG's, but in enough of a different direction that they're distinct from each other. Also enjoyed seeing the terminal effect of the ancient ammo! 👍
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
THanks for the feedback Noah
@tsasso6199
@tsasso6199 Жыл бұрын
Trys way too hard
@ryanrooks7570
@ryanrooks7570 Жыл бұрын
@@tsasso6199 I've seen a couple comments like this. I'm pretty much the same person on camera as off camera. Maybe I'm just not right for the channel.
@jentlejeniuskat
@jentlejeniuskat Жыл бұрын
@@ryanrooks7570 I'd love to see you back on the channel. When I finally stopped laughing after the "application programmer interface" gag, I had to rewind to see what I'd missed.
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanrooks7570 I think you'll relax a bit as you do more of these and your delivery will feel a little more natural, but otherwise you're doing just fine. Keep it up.
@TSKNBgaming
@TSKNBgaming Жыл бұрын
15kpl 7.62 kiväärin patruunaa (translation: 15pcs 7.62 rifle cartridges) 🤔 what i coincidence that i just opened youtube, and saw this as a Finnish follower.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
good timing!
@b6983832
@b6983832 Жыл бұрын
Ei ihan noinkaan. Patruuna on cartridge englanniksi. Bullet merkitsee luotia.
@TSKNBgaming
@TSKNBgaming Жыл бұрын
@@b6983832 ainiin jooo, totta👍vähän väsyneenä tuli toi kirjotettua potato modessa. Nyt on korjattu.
@th.burggraf7814
@th.burggraf7814 Жыл бұрын
I like Ryan's humor, and he's a good shot as well. Had a great time watching this video. 👌🏻👍🏻
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@dieseldavidson2671
@dieseldavidson2671 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Ryan like to see more of you
@KingAnarchist
@KingAnarchist Жыл бұрын
@@taofledermausYep, I like this guy. He’s good on camera, very relaxed and entertaining.
@NathanielStauber
@NathanielStauber Жыл бұрын
You would certainly think American Petroleum Institute rifle cartridges would have more of an effect on gasoline. Thank you for helping us understand what these rounds can do, and thanks to John for sending them in!
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
I think when the Soviets made them they would likely have been intended to be fired from a machine gun rather than a bolt-action rifle, and therefore would have had a much greater chance to start a fire.
@jannejohansson3383
@jannejohansson3383 Жыл бұрын
When you pierce enemy's head, it dosen't matter do it burn or not later that.
@yellowhorse6
@yellowhorse6 Жыл бұрын
Ryan is officially Audience-approved. He's a good shooter, witty and just irreverent enough to keep us guessing as to what he might say next.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks for the nice words
@hessex1899
@hessex1899 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Ryan knows his way around REGEX.
@neilsimpson79
@neilsimpson79 Жыл бұрын
The tip never lies, I realized they were HE Incendiary rounds when you opened the box but I've never seen ones as spicy before. It's amazing they didn't break down or just turn to rust
@VashStarwind
@VashStarwind Жыл бұрын
Being covered in that oil probably saved them
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same reaction. Then i saw the first shot. CONFIRMED.
@petrimakela5978
@petrimakela5978 Жыл бұрын
It's not HE. It's armor piercing incendiary
@zzzzzzzzzsz
@zzzzzzzzzsz Жыл бұрын
@@petrimakela5978 its actually the eye of sauron
@Dr_Mario2007
@Dr_Mario2007 Жыл бұрын
Coating the bullets in oil, grease and wax are one of a few common way to preserve the ammunitions.
@drshoe8744
@drshoe8744 Жыл бұрын
I love those API Rounds impacting with the High Speed Cams, that's such a Beautiful Display of Destruction.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@rustleshackleford1553
@rustleshackleford1553 Жыл бұрын
You definitely don't get content like this every day, truly outstanding!👍👍
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks
@john_in_phoenix
@john_in_phoenix Жыл бұрын
My father gave me some packaged exactly like that, only 1951 (and actual Finnish manufacturer) with brass cases. It was for a 1903 Springfield, and in considerably better condition. Fired just fine 30 years ago. He bought it shortly after the Korean war.
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
That's interesting, I didn't know that Finland used any military small arms chambered in .30-06. Or did they use the same packaging for civilian ammo?
@StubbySum9
@StubbySum9 Жыл бұрын
black-red tip are armour piercing incendiary round from my understanding, Nice video :)
@Superkuh2
@Superkuh2 Жыл бұрын
You can't say those words on youtube anymore.
@StubbySum9
@StubbySum9 Жыл бұрын
@@Superkuh2 Just did though for 2h ago
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Exactly, we had to play it dumb and not mention key words.
@richardwilson6392
@richardwilson6392 Жыл бұрын
@@taofledermaus I think key words are key words
@sasquatch440
@sasquatch440 Жыл бұрын
double crimped primer, that means it was intended for the ShKAS machine gun. more than likely came out of a wrecked/downed soviet aircraft
@wolfgagger
@wolfgagger Жыл бұрын
they wouldn't keep boxes like that in an airplane...
@sasquatch440
@sasquatch440 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfgagger if you payed attention during the video the ammo was 1939/1940 russian made, repackaged by the Finns in 1944 (who put them in the boxes )
@MrTruckerf
@MrTruckerf Жыл бұрын
Cool!
@wolfgagger
@wolfgagger Жыл бұрын
@@sasquatch440 its the way you worded it saying, it came out of, i was thinking you actually meant it as in the box
@MrMiggoH
@MrMiggoH Жыл бұрын
Yeah the packaging says it's rifle ammo but it's actually russian machine gun ammo. According to wikipedia not to be shot by a rifle but what do they know.
@baarum
@baarum Жыл бұрын
I don't know where and how you picked this guy up, but he's got the right amount of TFM snark and fits just right in. Another great video, keep it up. P.S. I'm addicted to cosmoline too
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback and kind words.
@snarky_user
@snarky_user Жыл бұрын
More snark is always appreciated.
@keithrickson8522
@keithrickson8522 Жыл бұрын
14:09 love the bird flying through the high speed shot 😮
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
He was hard to see in the real time shots
@keithrickson8522
@keithrickson8522 Жыл бұрын
@@taofledermaus I didn't see it at all in the real time shot.
@machinegunfrank661
@machinegunfrank661 Жыл бұрын
armor piercing incendiary black over red
@zman1508
@zman1508 Жыл бұрын
I hate that I hardly get recommended your videos anymore Tao Still love to see em. Was talking rockets with people from work and we all watched your Gyrojet video.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
I think YT has been stomping on us for most of this year.
@zman1508
@zman1508 Жыл бұрын
I unsubbed and resubbed hoping that works. Keep up the good content.
@StrangerOman
@StrangerOman Жыл бұрын
Ryan is a fine gentleman, good with his words, fine shooter. Hope we can see him more on a range with more exotic ammo. Man, life is like a box of old ammo. You never know what you get. API, what a flashy treat. And what a nice bonus at the end! Amazing stuff.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@heywardmorgan7699
@heywardmorgan7699 Жыл бұрын
What a treat, like seeing the old ammo demos, this one was especially interesting with the spicy rounds from the past. Thinking if the bag had been ballooned out so the vapor could fill more space, you may have gotten a little different result, but it's just a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess 😂) as always, enjoyed and will be looking forward to more from the mind of Jeff and the TFM crew.
@leadfoot8593
@leadfoot8593 Жыл бұрын
Need the right sir/fuel ratio.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
From what I googled it says those are armor piercing incendiary rounds or api like you said lol love the measurements of freedom in hamburgers lol my kind of figures lol awesome video those rounds did great for the age the fire ring was awesome too thanks for sharing
@SpencerShirey1998
@SpencerShirey1998 Жыл бұрын
Yea. Vintage WW2 Russian made API
@VashStarwind
@VashStarwind Жыл бұрын
I thought it was incendiary also. Makes sense, red stripe for incendiary, black stripe for armor piercing, probably some awesome ammo once upon a time. Probably better to shoot it while it still works than to just let it rot away also.
@SpencerShirey1998
@SpencerShirey1998 Жыл бұрын
@@VashStarwind Yep. API, Armor Piercing, incendiary
@chris_is_here_oh_no
@chris_is_here_oh_no Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, incredible rare ammo find! These were some great results.
@timo1218
@timo1218 Жыл бұрын
Along with the 'regular' exotic shotgun slug content, I and probably a lot of people also really like these videos about old exotic rifle ammunition! Thanks for the video :)
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@tomhandel9176
@tomhandel9176 Жыл бұрын
Lots of fun shooting old specialty ammo but most if not all ammo from that era was mercuric primed, I believe, so better clean that Mosin well. Great video though!
@cameronlamb7274
@cameronlamb7274 Жыл бұрын
Anyone shooting surplus ammo should already know this.
@vicroc4
@vicroc4 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about Eastern European ammo, but the US moved away from mercury fulminate as they transitioned to brass cartridges. The mercury residue had a nasty effect on the brass, so another primer compound using potassium chlorate was developed. Now, the advice of cleaning your gun immediately after a range session still applies with chlorate primers. One of the combustion products of potassium chlorate is potassium chloride. Potassium chloride is hygroscopic, meaning that it absorbs water from the air. And having water and a salt in close proximity to your steel barrel means rust. That's why chlorate-based primers are known as "corrosive" primers, because they will rust your barrel if their residue isn't cleaned out shortly after your shooting session. Edit: I do know that the US was one of the last countries to move away from chlorate based primers. Commercial ammunition didn't stop using chlorate until the 1950s.
@cameronlamb7274
@cameronlamb7274 Жыл бұрын
@@vicroc4 soviet countries still used corrosive primers into the 70’s atleast and most British made .303 into ww2 was corrosive.
@vicroc4
@vicroc4 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronlamb7274 Thanks for the clarification. Like I said, I knew that most Western countries had made the shift by the 1950s, but I had no idea about the Soviets or their sphere of influence.
@cameronlamb7274
@cameronlamb7274 Жыл бұрын
@@vicroc4 I don’t believe it was a mercuric priming compound theirs other compounds that were also corrosive.
@berniedanjou8158
@berniedanjou8158 Жыл бұрын
Hello from France... Wahou good discovery... It seem's percing armor and explosive bullet (black nose ''percing'' and red circle ''explosive''). Thanks for this vidéo. See you soon
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Awesome! thanks
@mikeblair2594
@mikeblair2594 Жыл бұрын
I really want this guy to come back more often. He's just damn funny
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@Chaotyk-Official
@Chaotyk-Official Жыл бұрын
@@taofledermaus wow I wud keep those WW2 pre Nagasaki rounds
@davedave9552
@davedave9552 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a young Dom DeLuise
@terryobrien308
@terryobrien308 Жыл бұрын
Ryan and OG have the same type of humor. Thanks for making this video. The old ammo was performance was interesting
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!!
@jormalonnberg1578
@jormalonnberg1578 Жыл бұрын
I did not see best before date in that package. Did You?? 😎
@walqu
@walqu Жыл бұрын
Great video! really enjoyed seeing some rifle content as an Scandinavian. In addition, I use a Mauser K98F as my main rifle and it was extra fun to see content so closely related to my own firearm. Loved the content, the humour and the bullets.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you Audun
@simennilsen5457
@simennilsen5457 Жыл бұрын
Finland is not Scandinavian
@mikeblair2594
@mikeblair2594 Жыл бұрын
I love armor piercing incendiary rounds! Anything that makes nice holes while simultaneously exploding is just fabulous!!!!!
@billyhess5263
@billyhess5263 Жыл бұрын
Another…banger…of a video! Ryan is great, I thoroughly enjoy his humor!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks Billy
@Leverguns50
@Leverguns50 Жыл бұрын
That was really interesting, I really appreciate you guys expanding the old emerald that way all for the love of science, right, anyhow, I appreciate it
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@heaven-is-real
@heaven-is-real Жыл бұрын
The red black color markings must mean it is an armor piercing incendiary (api) round.
@MmMerrifield
@MmMerrifield Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that that bird off in the distance made it out okay!
@matthewtaylor3308
@matthewtaylor3308 Жыл бұрын
14:11
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
i would have expected Finnish D stuff to be heavy ball and not API, when it comes to dented cases, very common with combloc copper washed steel cased ammo, still goes bang and fireforms itself straight when you fire them, no biggie, if it seat it yeets.
@davida267
@davida267 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Ryan back, he fit right in beautifully
@Mister_E.
@Mister_E. Жыл бұрын
I knew this guy would be back. What a personality! I'm still laughing about the Cole's Law joke he made after shooting the cabbage.
@daneil_center_rides5121
@daneil_center_rides5121 Жыл бұрын
These are explosive target accusation rounds. Often used by snipers since they caused devastation
@gscapinelli9214
@gscapinelli9214 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video guys, as always. Great guest, too
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!!
@Carpythesharky
@Carpythesharky 10 ай бұрын
"This is Tula ammo, a weapon to surpass Metal Gear" I love this guy!
@williamhudson4938
@williamhudson4938 Жыл бұрын
I love my Mosin 91. It looked like it had been dipped in crankcase oil for storage. The receiver was marked as being made by SAKO and with Chinese surplus ammo it will stay on an old Copenhagen can at 100 yds. Fun times.
@noonehere1793
@noonehere1793 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure they were not just picked up off the battlefield in the Ukraine last week?
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Жыл бұрын
I hate to be that guy, but since Ukraine is a singular, sovereign country, you do not say "the" Ukraine; it has not been "the Ukraine [oblast]" since 1992 when it ceased being part of Russia. 😊 Same with it being pronounced "Keev" (Kyiv) and not "Key-yev" (Kiev). They deserve our respect in this regard, as they've *_certainly_* earned it! 💙💛 _(sorry if this comes across like me being an asshole, not my intention)_
@hungryburger1170
@hungryburger1170 Жыл бұрын
That would imply they got munitions in the first place
@cuntontheweb2657
@cuntontheweb2657 Жыл бұрын
​@@hungryburger1170 GERASIMMOV, SHOIGU? WHERE IS THE AMMUNITION?? -Yevgeni Prigozhin 2023
@randyadams03
@randyadams03 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the DPR cherish they're up to date Mosin-nagant Dragoon. 🤣🤣🤣
@jmyd83
@jmyd83 Жыл бұрын
Yes but at Great Expense to the US Tax Payers 😂
@SuperGorillaGlue
@SuperGorillaGlue Жыл бұрын
Kentucky ballistics would be proud of the table destruction
@Dilz6669
@Dilz6669 Жыл бұрын
Jeff: "Yeah, I try to make these tables last as long as I can." KB Scott: 😏 Great video as usual. Enjoying Ryan's humor.
@q5echo154
@q5echo154 11 ай бұрын
Someone has been hangin around Officer Gregg for about a decade too long.
@jameslowe3792
@jameslowe3792 Жыл бұрын
Nice...API rounds, love the video Jeff.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks Jim!
@DJJ81
@DJJ81 Жыл бұрын
I mean…. API round?
@headhuterdk
@headhuterdk 11 ай бұрын
Loved Ryan killing it with his marksmanship! And he was also funny. Appreciate the content ❤
@tonydabaloney
@tonydabaloney Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one. Hope you invite him back again. Like a younger OG. Those rounds were spectacular! I'd hate to get shot with one and have it hit the titanium wire holding my chest together. Be quite a shock ,to say the least. Boom, "Hello St. Peter!"
@ohiphotopro
@ohiphotopro Жыл бұрын
44 is still a year out from beating Germany, so yes they would be picking up used shells and sending them back to be remanufactured. Great find. Hoping to find some of these someday.
@nigelsmith7366
@nigelsmith7366 Жыл бұрын
Wrong sorry mate it is captured Russian ammo... Finland was at war with Russia during ww2
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
@@nigelsmith7366 Not only were they at war with Russia, but they were *allied* with Nazi Germany.
@ohiphotopro
@ohiphotopro Жыл бұрын
just to clarify my previous comment, peace between Russia and Findland was announced on March 1, 1944. If this box was remanufactured on May 25, 1944, it is very likely that components made their way to Findland through Russia, in the effort to defeat Germany, that would not happen for another year. April 25, 1945 last bit of German Army pushed out of Findland, and on May 2, 1945 Germany unconditionally surrendered. Conditions in USSR were very rough throughout the war, and it makes complete sense that soldiers would be ordered to pickup any spent cases to be reloaded. I do believe that factory production of ammunition continued throughout the war as well in evacuated factories (my memory may be failing me, but I remember seeing one sealed tin of 54r dated from around that time). I apologise if I got any of this wrong, but I always was interested in this topic, because my grandfather was one of the managing directors of one of many evacuated factories, and my father was born during the evacuation in 1942. I wish more people would remember unimaginable cost of war.
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
@@ohiphotopro That's not true either, a ceasefire was called on the 5th of September 1944, and the Continuation War formally ended with an armistice on the 19th of that month. Also the ammunition doesn't seem to be "remanufactured", merely repackaged, as evidenced by the country of manufacture being stated as Russia. And when this ammunition was repackaged in May of that year, the war was very much still ongoing.
@coalminer6278
@coalminer6278 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure some else may have suggested this, the vapor needs to be around the application-programmable-interface(😂) impact for ignition! Love your videos!!
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын
"My name is Ryan and I'm addicted to Cosmoline" Please have this man on more often!
@jonathanbrocklehurst6724
@jonathanbrocklehurst6724 Жыл бұрын
14:19 a visit from a real life fladermaus. Did no one else see the bat? Love your work Jeff
@gotindrachenhart
@gotindrachenhart Жыл бұрын
There's a difference between the two steels used. Mild steel is more of a general purpose round for when the rounds might have to defeat mild cover or obstacles like bushes or interior walls or doors and worn equipment. The hardened steel used in AP rounds is for just that, armor. Pretty cool video! Those clouds and fire rings are amazing!
@majogl188
@majogl188 Жыл бұрын
You got a real gem there... Those are russian API rounds used everywhere, from bolt actions, through LMGs to aircraft armaments... The telltale flash on impact is the incendiary part detonating and the color coding on the tip is consistent... Love this! Google (since i cant put in links) 7.62x57mmR B-32 (7-BZ-3) EDIT: oh nvm, kept watching, and this info is in the video after all xD
@abrahmfiloramo7278
@abrahmfiloramo7278 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jeff! I think Ryan is a great addition to the guest shooter lineup. The shot of primary ignition with the bird in the background is priceless! Thanks
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@alwolf2325
@alwolf2325 Жыл бұрын
OG's kid brother is a great addition.
@scousewillo62
@scousewillo62 Жыл бұрын
WOW, those 80+ year old API rounds where not messing about. Fantastic content as usual and I love Ryan's humour. I would not feel safe having those shot at me even in a period APC or light tank. It would be interesting to know how much performance they have lost if any over those 80/90 years.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks Roy!!
@squishy312
@squishy312 Жыл бұрын
There's a reason the Finns were pretty much unstoppable during the Winter War. Sisu, along with special treats like these. They were very tactical with everything they did.
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks Ryan, Mark and of course Jeff 👍
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@highoctanehotrod
@highoctanehotrod Жыл бұрын
Non-AP steel core is used to improve barrier blindness, not because it’s cheaper than lead. Mild steel core isn’t AP but it does improve penetration of non-armor barriers such as windows and sheet metal on vehicles. Also steel core is prohibited on almost all indoor ranges, not because of its penetrating capabilities but because it can generate sparks that can ignite unburnt powder that can accumulate on the floor of indoor ranges.
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
Note that we are talking about Soviet-produced ammunition from the WWII era, cost and availability of materials was almost undoubtedly the primary factor. The Germans made sintered iron 9mm rounds for the same reasons.
@highoctanehotrod
@highoctanehotrod Жыл бұрын
@@jic1 I don’t think the Germans use of sintered iron was a cost saving measure as much as it was a prioritization of supply use during war. Lead was required in the making of batteries. My point was generally a steel core can have benefits outside of cost, and in most cases steel is more expensive than lead and making a steel Cored projectile adds another level of complexity to the manufacturing process. Just my opinion.
@MrIrondog55
@MrIrondog55 Жыл бұрын
Good to See Ryan on the channel again, love his subtle sense of humour. Glad he had some fun playing with some "SPICY" vintage rounds! Greg, Mae, Ryan & Brianna video needs to happen. Maybe an anniversary special or something. :)
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@kriztov265
@kriztov265 Жыл бұрын
Enough of those " Altitude Programable Interceptors " going through a vehicle soon enough something is gonna go boom. Fantastic images, thankyou for taking the risk.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@moparedtn
@moparedtn Жыл бұрын
Good job Ryan and Jeff. I did the Mosin and 54R thing back when it was cool; it always amazed me the rather crude looking surplus ammo always worked. That said, I must admit I didn't enjoy shooting the thing much at all. Wound up selling it for double what I paid for it (less costs associated with initial cleaning off of cosmoline, of course), so I guess "been there, done that" will have to suffice. Feel better soon, Jeff! - Ed on the Ridge
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you Ed!
@thesnipercat6792
@thesnipercat6792 Жыл бұрын
Man I love Ryan's sense of humor 😂. Imagine having him and OG in a video. Please Jeff! 😂❤
@Nick-rs5if
@Nick-rs5if Жыл бұрын
These are old Russian BZ-bullets. (B-32 / 7-BZ-3 by the looks of it) Essentially just Armour-Piercing Incendiary, or API. They were in production from 1932 to 1969. I'm frankly amazed they still ran so smoothly after all these years. I wish I knew how the Finns got their hands on these pearls, I bet that'd be quite the story! 😄 EDIT: Spelling, English is not my native language... 😂👍
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
edit: you could have fooled ME! lol
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, I think the story would probably be fairly boring: 'We shot some Russians and took them.'
@Dr4gon2000
@Dr4gon2000 Жыл бұрын
I think we have to clarify this, indoor ranges typically dont allow bimetal jackets or steel core ammo, not because it is 'armor piercing' but because it is ferrous. Indoor ranges typically have a lot of unburnt powder, coating the walls, stalls, targets, backstop, etc and generally the dont want the liability of a fire happening due to a spark. With that said, yeah typically ammo wont cause a fire, as seen in this very video, but at the end of the day a business has to run and insurance is a huge part of that
@up4open763
@up4open763 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest that steel is less likely to lose energy due to deformation, and the risk is not as much penetrative power, as it is ricochet. I would also suggest that years of passing down, "don't shoot with steel because it can go where you don't expect it," got turned into "don't shoot steel cause it can go through to where you don't expect it." I felt horrible watching you open that treasure, and yet I'm so impressed those rounds worked so well, and glad you documented their use.
@1959Edsel
@1959Edsel Жыл бұрын
Ryan's delivery is perfect for the presentation of the boxes.
@cycoholic
@cycoholic Жыл бұрын
Those rounds were amazing for how old they are. And those fire rings were cool. 👍
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@michaelrandell4021
@michaelrandell4021 Жыл бұрын
The Myth Busters tried this with tracers. They increased the yardage to see if tracers would ignite a car gas tank. You guys were about 25 yards to close. Hey, live and learn. Great guess shooter. You can bring him back again, he would go good with the "OG." Thanks for the good content.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
These aren't tracers though
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
translations: 15 items 7.62 rifle cartridge without straps bullet: D, armor piercing, incendiary casing: ferrous origin: Russian inspected: May 25th, 1944
@lanedexter6303
@lanedexter6303 Жыл бұрын
Wow, fun test! I’m impressed by that 80+ year old ammo. Great velocity, always lit off when it hit, great penetration. You could take this stuff to war.😁
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you Lane
@WhenTheManComesAround
@WhenTheManComesAround Жыл бұрын
This gent reminds me so much of some of the best engineers ive ever worked with. Great vid 👍
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@LexCinnabon
@LexCinnabon 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video! I have a few of these rounds I want to test. You got some great footage!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 7 ай бұрын
thanks!
@FrankMuchnok
@FrankMuchnok Жыл бұрын
The TV show "MythBusters" did an episode on the Hollywood meme of cars exploding every time when hit with a bullet. It turns out gas tanks aren't that easy to blow up. First off, the off-gassed vapors burn, not the contained liquid fuel inside the tank. Then you need the proper oxygen content for the vapors to ignite. I think that during war time air combat the first shots would puncture the tank and following incendiary rounds ignited the vapors from the leaking fuel. Another entertaining video. Good job guys ! ** And so much for "crappy" Soviet ammo.
@damienthomas6655
@damienthomas6655 Жыл бұрын
i like the new guy,,he is petty funny like Greg!
@bobjordan8283
@bobjordan8283 Жыл бұрын
Now that was awesome! Thank you for your hard work!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks Bob
@bnnyclips
@bnnyclips Жыл бұрын
Those aren’t technically 7,62x54 they’re Finnish 7,62x53. Hence looking like the bullet wasn’t seated all the way. It’s typical of that round. It’s fires reliably out of a typical 54r rifle as it was intended to be used in adverse conditions perfect for the Fins.
@Enterstyx
@Enterstyx Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing an old soviet manual that had info on shooting this type of ammo through mosins. It was known to jam bolts shut. If this happened, the manual instructed you to place the rifle on the ground, put one foot on the stock, and kick the bolt till it opens.
@humdinger5701
@humdinger5701 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Ryan come back. He fits in nicely.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind feedback
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
I don't consider old ammo to be collectible, unless it's in a sealed can. Ammo is meant to be used and you've got to keep your "collection" fresh by shooting all the old stuff first. For the gas, try pulling it out of the bag at the last minute and having it in the open, it just needs more air in the mixture. A small bowl might work, or a large lipped plate for best visibility. As a programmer I appreciate you guys using the correct definition of API. :P
@Tarquin21723
@Tarquin21723 Жыл бұрын
Steel Core Ammo is prohibited at Indoor Ranges not because they think it penetrates armor. It's because the steel cores spark when they hit the backstop. That could cause a Range Fire with all the unburnt powder downrange.
@markburke2533
@markburke2533 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this show, thanks!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thanks Mark!
@dcrog69
@dcrog69 Жыл бұрын
Now yall got me craving 80+ year old Finnish surplus cheese.
@chrisleach4245
@chrisleach4245 Жыл бұрын
14:11 I don’t know what kind of birds you have but that’s a big one flying from left to right through the smoke.😮❤
@dryhumor7302
@dryhumor7302 10 ай бұрын
Ferrous Bullets Day Off: A Taofleder Flick.
@ronin47-ThorstenFrank
@ronin47-ThorstenFrank Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the 80 year old Soviet ammo still does work. Got to forward this to some Finnish guys I know. Love your videos! PS: Ok, is this now a change from school busses to hamburgers? I mean, I´m still wondering about if you meant American, Asian, European or African school busses. And where are those burgers from? West coast? East coast? Texan? Smash burgers? Or the international McDonalds standard burger?
@vicroc4
@vicroc4 Жыл бұрын
Ammo can last a surprisingly long time if it's properly stored. I'm kind of surprised the API bullets were still intact though - incendiary compounds aren't the most stable chemicals.
@jic1
@jic1 Жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell, there isn't a standardized European school bus.
@ronin47-ThorstenFrank
@ronin47-ThorstenFrank Жыл бұрын
@@jic1 Don´t make it more complicated as it already is. For our purposes there IS a standardized lenghts for school busses in Europe! ;-) 😀
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to the steel core ammo situation, a lot of the bans have to do with sparking more than actual penetration concerns, although it does chew up backstops.
@videodistro
@videodistro Жыл бұрын
Correct. They can be a fire hazard. Both from the sparks hitting stone or metal and even igniting unspent powder that gets ejected down range.
@seanhazelwood3311
@seanhazelwood3311 10 ай бұрын
API, Apple Products Inc., lives up to its namesake. Lots of flash and bang, but not much advertised result. In all seriousness, API was designed for full auto use. Numerous hits in a small area will penetrate light armor and can ignite some materials like truck seats or ammo crates; As Intended.
@Chrisamic
@Chrisamic Жыл бұрын
Yep, WWI pilots found it was almost impossible to get hydrogen observation balloons to catch on fire even with incendiary rounds. Mostly, they just passed straight through. It took them until 1917 before the British devised an incendiary round which was more successful than the very inaccurate French rockets that were in use up until 1918. It's debatable whether the incendiary rounds were more successful than the rockets, but they had the big advantage that they could be fired from a greater distance. "Balloon busting" was one of the more hazardous assignments WWI pilots could be tasked with, both because it brought them within range of heavy ground fire, and because of danger from the hydrogen balloon if they actually were successful. There were decorated balloon aces from both sides. These particular rounds were intended for use against lightly armoured vehicles, specifically to set fire to the fuel tanks. They were intended for use in a light machine gun, as a single penetration is unlikely to result in a fire. The reason for the packaging - there are three five round clips per packet, and the packets were designed to be alternate stacked into metal boxes, 20 packets (300 rounds) per box. API = armour piecing incendiary round, which I'm sure you knew. The bullets actually were inserted into the cases correctly. There is a ring depression around the bullet, and behind that is more bullet with a boat tail. It's correct if you can still see the depression. The ring might improve obturation of the projectile in machine gun barrels. Those rounds should not be considered safe. It's possible for muzzle bursts to occur. That is, it's possible for the HE component to ignite immediately after leaving the barrel. Eye and ear protection should be considered as non-optional.
@Messier87_M87
@Messier87_M87 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jeff! Very fun! Does Ryan have his own KZfaq channel?
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
I don't think he has a channel
@hard4hardware
@hard4hardware Жыл бұрын
I believe a tank of gasoline would ignite if hit by application programming interface rounds because of the compression and heat. Also O.G.'s hairy daughter is great on camera. Loved the video and thank you for sharing the results captured in such high detail!
@erniemathews5085
@erniemathews5085 Жыл бұрын
Those are the exploding rounds that snipers loved in WW2. Cool!
@abdou.the.heretic
@abdou.the.heretic Жыл бұрын
When OG and Ryan finally meet, it's dad jokes day and I'm eating all that up. I still puff air out of my nose remembering OG's "monolith one lith" joke 😂
@F_L_U_X
@F_L_U_X Жыл бұрын
I love this dude. He's funny. I'd love to see more of him and maybe a live stream party with him, Jeff, OG, Bri, young Danny? Eh? EH?! And do a tarp giveaway live on stream with everyone's autograph on it.
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis Жыл бұрын
Kiv. Patr.=Kiväärin patruunoita = rifle's cartridges Luoti D-ps-sy=Luoti D-PanSsari-SYtytys Translates to Bullet D-armor-ignition, or armor piercing incendiary.
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis Жыл бұрын
On the bottom: Hylsy=case Rautainen=(made) of iron, specifically coated mild steel Alkuperä=origin Venäläinen=Russian Tarkastettu=inspected, and then the inspection date in DD/M/YY format.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@chrisleach4245
@chrisleach4245 Жыл бұрын
Be sure that if you invite Scott from Kentucky to the range that he brings his own tables!!😂😂😂
@cynthiakoehne7004
@cynthiakoehne7004 Жыл бұрын
I like the Robin flying in the background.
@andrewdobosz3682
@andrewdobosz3682 Жыл бұрын
Excellent slow mo!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@henrikchristensen6314
@henrikchristensen6314 Жыл бұрын
Steel core ammo is also a no go on indoor ranges because of the increased risk of sparks that might ignite the powder residue that is everywhere on a range floor
@billtheunjust
@billtheunjust Жыл бұрын
Also, I bet it's easier to ban all steel core rather than expect everyone to know the different types of steel core. If the range has steel targets they probably don't want to deal with potential increased wear on the plates, or possible ricochet.
@erroneous6947
@erroneous6947 Жыл бұрын
It’s also common for the jacket to come off the bullet and the steel core to bounce back at you. So be careful shooting steel core on steel plates.
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