RAT THINGS & UNDEAD PIRATES - Vampire Coast vs Skaven - Total War Warhammer 3

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Ай бұрын

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@doorag_bill
@doorag_bill Ай бұрын
Never thought I’d hear zombies being called “glass cannon”
@fiveforbiting
@fiveforbiting Ай бұрын
"Flesh Cannon" doesn't sound right.
@Fedakeen
@Fedakeen Ай бұрын
'Fragile' is more apt
@mattbaxter688
@mattbaxter688 Ай бұрын
Glass noodles
@Bird0115
@Bird0115 Ай бұрын
@@mattbaxter688 agreed, I don’t think ‘cannon’ fits the deckhand mobs in any way.
@user-sd9dk5ir7v
@user-sd9dk5ir7v Ай бұрын
all glass no cannon baby
@lich109
@lich109 Ай бұрын
That game was brutal, just a lot of leadership bombs on low leadership units. So many times the rats gave up just before finishing a charge, but I appreciate the Vermintide playstyle. Maybe a large coordinated charge against a flank could've pushed through the ranged offensive rather than a few units at a time.
@KnoxZone
@KnoxZone Ай бұрын
That's one nice thing about a faction that has fallen out of favor. Sure they're probably a little undertuned compared to the more meta races, but you can really surprise an opponent if you bring them out in a decent match up. Plus getting practice on the 'bad' factions is always good for when they inevitably get buffed and return to the main stage.
@babylonastronaut
@babylonastronaut Ай бұрын
Coast feels like it just needs a little tuning to be good again. They received tons of nerfs in wh2 that might not hurt to roll back.
@cinder8926
@cinder8926 Ай бұрын
@@babylonastronaut Makes me wonder what would happen if they were reverted back to how they were on their launch before any nerfs. There are a lot of really powerful factions and units in the game now so really stand out examples. Would fully unnerfed VC really feel all that strong any more.
@babylonastronaut
@babylonastronaut Ай бұрын
@cinder8926 deck droppers might become OP again, but would that really be too oppressive? Idk, but off the top of my head that's a unit that was nerfed beyond being useful.
@Khorothis
@Khorothis Ай бұрын
I think upgrading VCoast's zombies from 23 speed to 28 would be fair, they have no skeletons like VCounts and fluffwise their zombies are in a lot better shape, mostly mentally, than VCounts zombies. I think that change on its own would help a lot. Skaven need cheaper Lords and Heroes, mostly because none of them can perform on the level of a serious counterpart. Just compare Snikch to Markus (both are character-snipers), Queek to Sigvald (both are duelist foot Lords), or Skrolk to any spellcaster Lord, really, and you'll see why Ikit is the go-to choice because at least he has a solid lore of magic and plenty of WoM and he can help deal with infantry in melee. I'd even go as far as suggesting that Skaven get an additional Hero slot. These two changes combined could also help with the leadership issue, with cheaper and 1 more potential Encourage effects on the map.
@eumaies
@eumaies Ай бұрын
Skaven have some teeth. And claws. And ratty little tails.
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 Ай бұрын
You know what Skaven don't haver, citizen? Existence
@Mortarion-xt9wp
@Mortarion-xt9wp Ай бұрын
That man over here Witchhunter
@emilysmite9356
@emilysmite9356 Ай бұрын
Always love the audio going from loud to quiet every other video. One is decent in volume and the next is quiet..
@turinRTS
@turinRTS Ай бұрын
I gotta look into that, I must be standing to far away in some recordings
@profpwn9446
@profpwn9446 Ай бұрын
Ya know, its the pirates life for me
@badgersauce
@badgersauce Ай бұрын
This game was won on the army build screen
@madsjrgensen5736
@madsjrgensen5736 Ай бұрын
SAINT TURIN IS UNSTOPPABLE WITH THE UPLOADS
@ramonminino8382
@ramonminino8382 Ай бұрын
Those Deck Gunners were beasts, MVP of the game
@memedaddy6932
@memedaddy6932 Ай бұрын
I think Vampire Coast would be a solid faction if their units could move fast enough to actually get on points and dodge spells. Watching their infantry get obliterated by fire spells while the player can't do anything to save them is always so brutal.
@sg9524
@sg9524 Ай бұрын
A favourite faction of mine, and many other players. Yeah, it could be decent, but needs, as you say, some more speed with its general troops, and also a few more types of unit that last in close combat that are not so expensive. If you play against dwarves, they simply outlast you, it is a huge race against time for Coast, which usually fails unfortunately. Bring back the ethereal knights, maybe have some ethereal knight mounts, or ethereal sea serpent mounts, or a cracken mount that slows advances over a wide radius. Luthor Haarkon's mount is a bit too expensive considering the current army capabilities :P
@patrickleonard4187
@patrickleonard4187 Ай бұрын
Those damned Knights Errant!
@williampounds5191
@williampounds5191 Ай бұрын
The -16 leadership on those gunners single handedly won that game. Incredible.
@sassyviking6003
@sassyviking6003 Ай бұрын
That was a super interesting game. Great fun to see such thorough leadership control from the vampirates.
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 Ай бұрын
This was like .38 pistols vs T51 power armor
@Michael-kb2gk
@Michael-kb2gk Ай бұрын
Really good defense from the vampire coast player. Active threats kept being sent and coast defended the gunners great.
@Rokolith
@Rokolith Ай бұрын
That thumbnail lmao. I was surprised to see Cylostra on the crab mount, I always assumed it was bad for dom
@Arkancide
@Arkancide Ай бұрын
Vampire Coast will continue to be my favorite faction alongside Counts. Good to see them used properly!
@seermayton-el3488
@seermayton-el3488 Ай бұрын
I mean true Vermantide swarm love the strat but could be better done against factions like Chaos. Run in have rats stabbing from every which way scare the enemy into fleeing. Destroy the enemy through leadership. Super good idea of just making chaff eat the ammo of Vampire Coast. Just needed that backline firepower. Jezails and Warpstone Cannons would have been soooo money here. Still good match great plays by Direfin very good game.
@cyan_2877
@cyan_2877 Ай бұрын
In the last patch Vampire Coast had a record 0 wins and 10 losses against tzeentch on total tavern. In this new patch VC has jumped up to a 50% win rate vs tzeentch but idk if that is exactly something worth betting on staying the same lol
@dennisolovsson4390
@dennisolovsson4390 Ай бұрын
Love the coast resurgence! Wouldnt complain about another SFT as Coast in the near future!
@anthonylittle666
@anthonylittle666 Ай бұрын
Excellent thumbnail as always
@Weberkooks
@Weberkooks Ай бұрын
Bots of slaanesh new dlc unit confirmed for next dlc
@williammitchell6254
@williammitchell6254 Ай бұрын
wut???
@fiveforbiting
@fiveforbiting Ай бұрын
We are living in 40k.
@babylonastronaut
@babylonastronaut Ай бұрын
There are porn advertising bots that frequently invade chat lol.
@emultra759
@emultra759 Ай бұрын
Cylostra's 150 armor on the Rotting Leviathan mount reduces non-AP damage by 87.5% on average. Pretty rough for light ranged.
@sotark1109
@sotark1109 Ай бұрын
Armor doesn't increase damage reduction linearly after 100 armor. Since every "armor roll" above 100% is essentially 100% damage reduction, every armor point beyond 100 is worth less and less (because you get higher chances of reducing non-AP damage by 100%). At 150 armor, you've got a 66.7% chance of reducing damage by 100%, and a 33.3% chance of reducing damage by 75-99.99% (which averages to 87.5%). This means the real % of reduction is (0.667*100) + (0.33*87.5)=95.82%. And *then* you've got to consider that Cylostra on a crab still has 10% physical resistance. The end result is that she reduces non-AP damage by *96.2%* on average, and non-magical AP damage by 10%. So yeah, she's not feeling those shuriken.
@blindwoozie
@blindwoozie Ай бұрын
that thumbnail is somethin else
@facehurt7606
@facehurt7606 Ай бұрын
nice to come back and see this😮
@greengo6489
@greengo6489 Ай бұрын
Ah always a joy to see skaven stomped. Although at least they were classic vermintide and not their obnoxious tools.
@christerprestberg3973
@christerprestberg3973 Ай бұрын
I kinda forgot how cool the giant hermit crab model is, might have to play som TWWH3 with vamp cost soon >.>
@SilverlandgmodTV
@SilverlandgmodTV Ай бұрын
Cool matchup. Nice to see some "lesser" (in terms of meta) factions duking it out
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Ай бұрын
would be so perfect if there was a large boon off skaven once you lost like 70% off your skaven troops; number wise; making them just keep comming. honestly in this format and in campaign one could balance expendable with the trait that once they flee at lower than 50% they flee fully but come back full regiment after x time, dependent on their dmg; like free regenning unit when off the map; could allow them to come in with tunnels xD super skaven like; to balance it out could give their weapon teams and strong units, the true skaven trait off exploding violently often and backstapping your fellow skavens, or leaving them before they should XD
@Nalorn
@Nalorn Ай бұрын
I think the vamp foot characters deserve a speed buff
@bookmanjeb7238
@bookmanjeb7238 Ай бұрын
ya vamps units are like 60 speed in SFO. Always seemed right to me.
@jackobn.m.g.4806
@jackobn.m.g.4806 Ай бұрын
Putting og vampire coast banner in warhammer3 is so rad
@alexfeder9328
@alexfeder9328 Ай бұрын
Dam, been a while since saw vamp coast being used
@lich109
@lich109 Ай бұрын
These are coast, not counts.
@alexfeder9328
@alexfeder9328 Ай бұрын
@@lich109 fuck misspell
@niconilo97
@niconilo97 Ай бұрын
Maybe whit position plays skaven could maybe win that one, by actually concentring is force to take down untis one by one whit mass slinger shots Flamzing ruin on the big crab This way he will create some space allowing himself to flank the enemy gun line whit some sneaky units :) But yeah ez to say whit the hands on the mouse ^^
@Sunshyne670
@Sunshyne670 Ай бұрын
I don't know what Vampire Coast does about the new furies.
@turinRTS
@turinRTS Ай бұрын
dies if bringing ranged, otherwise melee build with hulks, crabs, mourn, etc
@alexfeder9328
@alexfeder9328 Ай бұрын
They die
@sg9524
@sg9524 Ай бұрын
Yeah, lots of furies absolutely detroy vampire guns fairly quickly. Interestingly, the gallows giant roasts furies very nicely... so maybe there is a strat there somehow, perhaps against less shooty enemy factions.
@TNTNinja2
@TNTNinja2 Ай бұрын
All hail the mighty!!!
@arcadius2569
@arcadius2569 Ай бұрын
VC defending their back shooters with next to no investment is masterful. Surprised Ikit wasn't sent back there to disrupt. Although I don't think the Skaven would ever have won this match.
@Lightzy1
@Lightzy1 Ай бұрын
Coast are not so much glass cannon as paper paper
@spartan662501
@spartan662501 Ай бұрын
The skaven army comp really did not seem to be efficient for this map when you have such great lanes of fire. They have good range options but didn't really use them
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Ай бұрын
GGWP
@ALLMIND_
@ALLMIND_ Ай бұрын
Ahoy~
@owenchubb5449
@owenchubb5449 Ай бұрын
This is the most brutal, one-sided game I think you have ever cast. Yikes
@niklassteinholtz3896
@niklassteinholtz3896 Ай бұрын
First?
@budi9232
@budi9232 Ай бұрын
What's up with the polish faction names out of a sudden at the beginning
@Sebatticus
@Sebatticus Ай бұрын
language of the person that sent it in id imagine, then turn plays on english so it maybe didn't load immediately
@Sebatticus
@Sebatticus Ай бұрын
Noticed a game bug - unless anyone can explain 8.40 a gunner mob just walks through a unit of Eshin triads without taking any damage and seemingly without hindrance ... Excuse me please sirs just passing through... noticed recently that units are less autonomous and wont engage units next to them without a specific orders, shame as its more realistic and fun if the units somewhat have a brain but CA aint about that, micro fest is the aim of the game.
@diddyread
@diddyread Ай бұрын
Eshins triads can make a summon copy of themselves that doesn't deal damage
@shiroamakusa8075
@shiroamakusa8075 Ай бұрын
Damn shame that you are punished if you play Skaven like Skaven and are forced to play them like ratty little Dwarfs instead. The game really needs a general nerf on shooting, magic and psychology. Land battles are near unwatchable thanks to how anti-climactic they tend to be with frontlines dissolving after seconds.
@Sebatticus
@Sebatticus Ай бұрын
Yeah id love a rework of the entire fear / terror mechanics, its just abit silly sometimes but guess its a nightmare to implement correctly
@RYUcaEU
@RYUcaEU Ай бұрын
bad news🗣️: until you get good enough to realize that you can easily counter all of these things, especially the first 2 💀
@williampounds5191
@williampounds5191 Ай бұрын
I mean... weapons teams and artillery are just as core to the skaven identity as anything. Hardly "ratty little dwarfs." Not really sure what you're getting at. Or if you really understand the faction identity.
Looks realistic #tiktok
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