They siphon your framerate for higher weapon damage

I came here to say mulch.

@@azureprophet gotta love tha mulch

@@wile123456 that got me 😂

It's way more practical than Legend makes it out to be. It's not hard to get a ton of pirate coves; you can do it in post-battle so it's as easy as sacking a city. Take one strong army, go sail around Norsca, drop a cove on every settlement, done. The hard part is the trait farming.

With cheese all things are possible

T'sarkaven: We must cheese this battle! Easy victory-triumph,yes-yes? Legend: Shut up,skaven!

I'm glad he's trying to really put the army to the test! There was a clear shift in mentality after the blood dragon thing. It's even made him resist the juicy WoD.

WoD?

@@Dancan799 Wind of Death .

@LegendofTotalWar give this man a 9/10 damn it

@@KampsKnows pirate coves can be established after every settlement battle! 10/10 way easier than previously thought

kudos to you man

I think this is way more practical than the similar gunnery wight one, because it's not like you need the Haunters in other armies. You're not hurting the rest of your faction by making this. Good work, dude. I thought about doing this one for legend but I figured it would take a long time to trait farm. :) Do Haunters not get Dread Incarnate? Seems like that would be even stronger. Another version of the insta-rout army.

Thanks for that clarification! Seems like a labour of love for total dominance.

I don’t think enough people liked this comment

@@sexyelote2638 the lord did, it’s enough

Nice

I think usually Legend plays Vampirates more traditionally but I like to play it as a only holding settlements like Sartosa or The Galleon's Graveyard. Everything else is a pirate cove.

@@minerva9104 even then, it's normally more convenient to go all money building because you're not making much money otherwise. Increasing hero capacity is nice and all, but it's not really needed unless you have a bunch of armies, in which case you need the money more. Occasionally, i might put one or two down, but 19? ouch

@@sympunny8636 Oh definitely. I mostly spam money but I'm also usually making bank and could afford to go with 12 for capacity if I wanted.

@@minerva9104 I mean, if you desperately wanted sure, but it'd really limit your number of armies, which is a pain in killing major factions. Like you could do it, but...why? This army isn't even very interesting to play with.

@@minerva9104 I actually like this approach. The safest opening with Noctilus is to get out of Ulthuan as fast as possible and then beeline Sartosa, setting up coves along the way. It's a great defensive position and nobody wants to go to war with you. Then you just pick whatever area is weak to start conquering.

But he has a doomstack of Necrofex too

@@MultiDannyboy1995 not 1, 5 or 6 =)

Vampire Haunter D

Vampire Hunter D is a much older reference than 1P tho

@fucku weebsnfurries lmao someones dad didnt love them

One of the pirates you can get in research can give you more stats(the one used)

@@bernasgoncalves Good point--looks like they both give the same amount of physical resistance while the guy used here also gives weapon strength. Cylostra just makes it easier to level them up because of the recruit rank bonus (and additional recruit slot).

Count noctilus with the weapon strength buff too

BUT THEY GOT NO LEGS!!! very disconcerning to look at...

@@beanhavok2287 indeed, that and the long slack jaws is kinda what gives them their unique look. It feels like something out of a horror movie.

@@beanhavok2287 What bout there legs? they don't need those...

A whack of lt dans

@@obombomattatetrahondamog1461 just a bite off the flank.

same

Yeah fell in love with them after had 1 obliterate an enemy army when all hope seemed lost

I mean they're probably one of the best heroes in the game to face Dark Elves with due to to Haunters have crazy high missile defense and decent speed. They can easy get to and bog down missile units without really taking any damage at all on the way there.

@@piercebrosnan9528 Sorry I’m late. Adventuring Party I believe.

If you turned down visual effects it would make a huge difference.

@@azureprophet seeing as how Legend hates hotkeys i doubt he'd want to press ESC and change visual settings mid battle

@@wile123456 The cause of the framerate drop doesn't even have anything to do with the doomstack

@@SatisfiedOnion it does partly because of the visual effect on the chilling aura that is hard on CPU. I've had similar problems of frame

@@SatisfiedOnion when they enter combat they all get an effect that triggers smoke particles above them

Ah, a man of knowledge

Barstool sports i see, a man of culture

playing total war from new haven aka barstool pizza capital of the world, this comment makes me so happy to see

Paladins with vows would probably disagree with you, (although without sure).

Saurus scar vet

@@gloubiboulgathefirst5784 Fully levelled up a Scar Vet is better because Carnosaur. But at level 1, I agree with Arturi.

@@doktarr what about the orc big boss stack? the power...

@@ThePatank Not sure if you're trolling or referring to the confident hero spam + Grimgor + Krimson Killers army.

It's not nearly as impractical as Legend says. It's easy to set up lots of coves. You can do it instead of sacking.

Full stack is impractical, but just combining 3-5 still gives you a very respectable army blender.

You can freelt establishncoves witt armies get the Mounghouls and if needed replace cove building for the money one.

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 i got like 30 of them in one of my campaigns, its really not that hard you just need to consolidate your corner of the map early and then sail around the world establishing coves on every port.

Why did you think Mournguls were bad? They become very tanky with levels, honestly one of the better scaling heroes in the game. Either way glad you and Legend see the light now :)

I think it's because he already knows how op wind of death is, and wanted to see how strong the mornghul haunters are by themselves.

How quick can you sack about 18 settlements. Very doable in ulthuan or Norsca or lustrian coasts or anywhere really. I think this is way easier than legend makes it out to be. If you don’t trait farm you can have these guys mid game.

Its not that hard to get

still pretty impractical because dread incarnate stacking takes ages, and if you desperately want one, it's quicker easier and better to use vampire captains, since they're better at fighting, easier to recruit, and easier to find dread incarnate since you have effectively 3 pools of them to look through with the different lores of magic. And your other stacks really don't need 19 gunnery wights, they're useful but not in large numbers.

Do Haunters not get Dread Incarnate? Seems like a great option if they do. Gunnery Wights are more useful for boosting your other stacks so I don't really like making a hero army with them.

They slobbered them. Not ate them, because ya know, no mandible, but if they had one they would absolutely devour those elves

thanks for the correction. fixed it in the title.

@@LegendofTotalWar WUt GrAmmAR prOBlEm WUt iS ThIS LEgenD can'T SpELl baD-bA DiSIiKe ANd UNSUbscriBe yES-Yes rATINGg 0/10 . just joking

I don't know how I never noticed that they weren't called Mourngul Hunters, I've only ever called them that. Looks like I gotta invest in some glasses lol

@@Shero1337 You can save your money man, I wear glasses and I still thought they were hunters all this time.

@@Shero1337 yeah me too😂

the balance of power was also not good and seemed to make sense. And then the melee charge hit and suddenly legend's computer pooped trying to render all the death animations

So the pirate coves are most often used in 2 situations. 1 you're sending a hero around to the best money making ports (lothern, marienburg, altdorf etc), while you build a traditional empire elsewhere, or 2, you're going the pure pirate route, using the galleons graveyard as one settlement, and sacking along the coastline, making coves in any harbour you can find. In 1, those coves are making tons of money, and coverting them into the hero ones, loses you a ton while you wait for disciplined. In 2, you have some coves that aren't making crazy money, so it's not so bad to convert them, however, you're pretty much only making money through coves and sacking, so taking away the coves for a long time, will hurt you. Trait farming a full stack of heroes just takes ages, and trait farming a full stack of heroes that need special buildings in pirate coves is just awkward. You definitely can do it, but there's really no need, the vampire pirates have tons of great armies that are so much easier and quicker to get. By the time you finally get this army, there's a good chance you've won the campaign already so it's more just for the memes.

Bump

They were used though, just as heal/support instead of damage dealing.

@@connoisseurofcookies2047 sure, but if he says i should use wind of death now, and doesn’t, then he’s not using the stack as intended. I get he’s trying to test the doomstack and not just the magic user as he did before, and that’s good. But i think he went a bit too far in the other direction.

@@feanedhell He is testing the unique element of the stack which in this case are the Mournghul Haunters who are pure melee heroes. If they boosted magic, then sure WoD away, but in this case you might as well have a deckhand stack or a crab stack if you started casting WoD. Testing the stack shouldn't be about winning the battle but seeing how well the stacks unique elements affect it's effectiveness.

@@connoisseurofcookies2047 i disagree again, using magic alongside the stack is important information. This particular one he managed to blob the enemy together because he attacked in melee making the WoD more useful, so it is relevant to the doomstack.

well, the vampire captains are decent at holding the line, just because of the summons, either prometheans, or vampire gunnery mobs. But i do agree, i like the mornghul haunters too, tbh, all 3 heroes for the vampire coast are really good, the gunnery wights are excellent support units for the artillery. Love the look of the mornghuls too, the detached jaw is so creepy but cool.

Except 4 stacks of late game Dark Elves is a much tougher battle than 4 stacks of Empire.

When you dont have friends

Older vids he was using magic way too much, often not actually testing the army, just the wizard. The community got more and more sick of it over time. It culminated with the blood dragon doomstack about a months ago where he basically didn’t use the blood knights except to chase down routing units. Comments were OVERWHELMINGLY negative. He changed his approach after that

better with clan pestilens, but not really a doomstack, because it can't kill any single entities.

To be fair the average druchii soldier probably deserves it lol

eh all you need to do is destroy the building and replace it with a money building once you've got the required heroes, really the only impractical thing about the army is the trait farming. its just as impractical as trying to get a crushing noble HE doomstack or Incendary firemage on dragon doomstack

You also get a gunnery wight from your cove, and the wight is an excellent force multiplier for the rest of your armies. Not that I've ever had more than eight armies in a vampire coast campaign, but still.