Rating Disney Princess Dresses on Historical Accuracy (Part One)

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Mina Le

Mina Le

3 жыл бұрын

PART TWO: • Rating Disney Princess...
This video was a monster to research/edit! But regardless, I'm still fueled to do Part 2 very soon. Please be kind if there are any errors 💛
REVISIONS:
- Sleeping Beauty takes place in France? - Based off of Perrault's story as well (For the locations/time periods of these princesses, I didn't have a straightforward "choosing method." I mostly looked at original stories as well as the time period likely depicted in the movie and then deduced from there. They are, in no way, conclusive!
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Further Reading ⬇️
Mentioned Videos:
• Fashion Expert Fact Ch...
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Snow White
cerridwencreations.weebly.com...
Cinderella
www.frieze.com/article/how-lu...
www.theatlantic.com/entertain...
Aurora
cottesimple.com/fitted-dress/f...
medievalhomecompanion.files.w...
www.bayrose.org/AandS/handouts...
rosaliegilbert.com/kirtles.html
Jasmine
/ decolonizing-princess-...
sayyidajahanara.files.wordpre...
www.abbasidstudies.org/abbasi...
www.12thnight.atlantia.sca.org...
Pocahontas
news.google.com/newspapers?ni...
ew.com/article/1995/06/16/poc...
www.historyisfun.org/wp-conte...
cottageburner.tumblr.com/post...
www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...
www.nps.gov/parkhistory/onlin....
For Cinderella, Belle, and Ariel, I mainly used my books:
How to Read a Dress by Lydia Edwards
Survey of Historic Costume by Phyllis G. Tortora & Sara B. Marcketti
Fashion: The Definitive History of Costume and Style by DK Publishing

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@DiscoGoesOn5067
@DiscoGoesOn5067 3 жыл бұрын
As an indigenous canadian, I really appreciate the moment you took to explain the sexual violence against native woman. I really wasn't expecting it, but it was a nice surprise.
@canadianxpotato4862
@canadianxpotato4862 3 жыл бұрын
same
@hehe7471
@hehe7471 3 жыл бұрын
I’m an indigenous American and I have to agree with you it was amazing that she took the time to explain sexual violence against native women because it happens everyday on reservations but no one talks about it
@rosemary_carll
@rosemary_carll 3 жыл бұрын
Nice?
@alavenderfawn4025
@alavenderfawn4025 3 жыл бұрын
Echo that!!! Seneca femme here, so grateful for the recognition to our sisterly plight. Unrelated note, I love *your* huge, floofy pink sleeves! 🖤
@DiscoGoesOn5067
@DiscoGoesOn5067 3 жыл бұрын
@Kamryn Pierre 💜💜
@katisjustfine2960
@katisjustfine2960 3 жыл бұрын
*Mina* : “I can’t think of another animated character with a red blue and yellow color scheme” *Donald Duck has left the Chat*
@charlesperrault69
@charlesperrault69 3 жыл бұрын
Donald being lefted in the colour scheme shadows behind snow white is a mood
@ebidy
@ebidy 3 жыл бұрын
Pinocchio too lol
@ashikapersaud
@ashikapersaud 3 жыл бұрын
Donald just put a big fat F in the chat😂😂
@alyssakaramitos3605
@alyssakaramitos3605 3 жыл бұрын
superman has also left
@Hevendemo
@Hevendemo 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of nintendo characters
@onnagata7770
@onnagata7770 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Jasmine is such a opportunity loss. Imagine her wearing the actual amazing costumes and ornaments.
@konanxhidan3202
@konanxhidan3202 3 жыл бұрын
Esmeraldas dress is also terrible. She is basically wearing her "underwear", I read the book and it was never written that she was wearing such revealing clothes.
@nowhyisuck6666
@nowhyisuck6666 3 жыл бұрын
@@konanxhidan3202 wdym?she just has a dress.
@konanxhidan3202
@konanxhidan3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@nowhyisuck6666 I'm talking about the corset also the red dress as well which is to revealing. I don't understand why Esmeralda always got sexualized, she didn't worse such clothes in the book.
@nowhyisuck6666
@nowhyisuck6666 3 жыл бұрын
@@konanxhidan3202 Oh, I mean most of the princess had dresses like Esmeralda. I never found it sexual or anything. But the dress was meant to be like that for the story of the film bc Frollo supposed to lust.
@konanxhidan3202
@konanxhidan3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@nowhyisuck6666 I love Disney Esmeralda, she was always my favourite character and I also like her body type but she was too sexualized ! Her dresses were too revealing especially the red one (similar to Jasmines red slave outfit), she is to much portrayed as the *exotic sexy rebellious brown girl* but in the novell Esmeralda was actually a shy, virtuous and a very innocent girl. Just look at her dance, it was basically a pole dance. Frollo wasn't only interested on Esmeralda because she was hot, he was also fascinated by her innocent, pure and kind personality. Except for being nice Disney Esmeralda is NOT portrayed like that simply because to make her more "independent". The same problem is with Jasmine, instead of wearing graceful modest clothes, she is dressed like a prostitute. Remember the three prostitutes in Aladdin ? They were all dressed like Jasmine, a royal princess.
@advikashankar3116
@advikashankar3116 3 жыл бұрын
Also Jasmine's outfit is completely inaccurate to the climate. There is a reason why in hot dessert climates and even hot humid climates like those in India and the Arabian peninsula people wear loose clothing that covers a lot of their body. My girl jasmine would be extremely sunburnt.
@noorykorky5056
@noorykorky5056 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Also, thank you for mentioning how it is *loose*.
@hyfhyf-kc7py
@hyfhyf-kc7py 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how disney made her (as well as other princesses ofc) have the perfect bodies. Because they made her waist very small with wide hips,while also being really slim(smh) they made me as well as countless other young girls feel a little self conscious of their already perfect and healthy bodies. I remember how I used to try and pinch my waist by tying a belt as best as I could or else I would'nt look like a princess. I realized just how bad disney is and how much of an impact it can have on little children. Its made more aware bcoz they basically showed a lot of skin in jasmine and ariel( and others too ig). Also, Jasmine's story was set in the arabian peninsula. This means that the weather is extremely hot and sunny, so you can get reallllly bad sunburn(I was brought up in an arabian country so Im telling yall coz kf experience). And also the fact that they made her clothes so "revealing" was disgusting bcoz in arab( and islamic culture), we are required to cover ourselves modestly, which means, we're supposed to wear loose and airy clothes. Basically, as much as they want their new princess to be a BIGHIT and get reallllly wealthy, they shoukd keep in mind abt how much they should consider the historical accuracy as well as the cultures of whatever new princess theyre making. Feel free to correct me politely if Im wrong anywhere and what yall can add to this as well
@ananyajames9558
@ananyajames9558 2 жыл бұрын
You're right. Although in a lot of parts in India especially the south women mostly are free to show their waists and arms
@ariaxrose1
@ariaxrose1 2 жыл бұрын
Right I live in England and a lot of Muslims live here and weark burkas etc and when its hot some people say how arent they sweating under there or when its cold why aren't they freezing under there? But whats amazing about those clothing is that when its hot you stay cool underneath and when its cold you stay warm. Its so fascinating
@user-tt4iz6qo9z
@user-tt4iz6qo9z 2 жыл бұрын
YESS, I'm Persian and whenever I go to visit Iran and some of the desserts there everyone is covered bc of the sun.
@comfymoth7359
@comfymoth7359 3 жыл бұрын
The only excuse I can think of for making Belle’s dress less historically accurate would be to make it simpler for the animators to draw. Rococo is a gorgeous style, but thinking about drawing each ruffle in each frame is already giving me a hand cramp, haha
@j.d.e.7416
@j.d.e.7416 3 жыл бұрын
Also, as the ballroom scene/dance was such a huge thing, I think they needed a dress with much more graceful 'twirl' in it than a gown with huge paniers could ever manage. Is there any little girl ever who didn't enjoy a dress with a good twirl? And they wisely left off the nasty curled and powdered wig that a noble of that era would have been wearing too. I was pleased to see, though, that in the 2017 remake of Beauty and the Beast, they did more of a nod to accuracy in the prince's original pre-curse outfit and wig...plus, it hid his appearance nicely, so when he was transformed back to human, his handsome looks were a nice surprise to the viewer.
@illegalmaknae550
@illegalmaknae550 3 жыл бұрын
@@j.d.e.7416 YEP literally me as a kid I loved wearing skirts that twirl (still do, theyr'e epic)
@sarahwessels7020
@sarahwessels7020 3 жыл бұрын
The version they went with might also be easier to produce for dolls than a rococco-dress.
@inkypaige4505
@inkypaige4505 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think it had to do more with marketing. It would be a lot harder to make and sell a rococo style dress for little girls to wear/to put on dolls, than the dress that they actually ended up putting belle in.
@milk2398
@milk2398 3 жыл бұрын
eh yeah but then in the movie they failed
@manoncandy
@manoncandy 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought Ariel's pink dress symbolized her not fitting into human society and that's why it didn't suit her at all.
@NameName-yj7lp
@NameName-yj7lp 3 жыл бұрын
It is- and that’s why I hate and love it Love because it’s pretty just on its own and it fits Ariel as a character she becomes human Hate how it looks on her tho- that pink and that red ain’t working with each other
@mattakubodimasen10
@mattakubodimasen10 3 жыл бұрын
That's such an interesting take on it and I must agree! It highlights how out of place she was among the humans then. How is it possible that Disney's brilliant artists would make such a clash unintentionally? Her red hair went beautifully with her green eyes and tail as a complementary colour scheme. On the contrary, the pink dress made her almost monochromatic and less dynamic.
@tubatud2327
@tubatud2327 3 жыл бұрын
agree :D would also add that i personally thought her dress was pink to symbolize childlike purity of her love + her newness to the human world
@wendyev310
@wendyev310 3 жыл бұрын
Green and red is so overdone and stale to me. The instinct is to dislike a pink & red color combo but it’s actually grown on me a lot throughout life and now I love it. Besides ariels dress is totally adorable
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 3 жыл бұрын
HAHA YE THATS SO SMART ✨
@mangofire4742
@mangofire4742 3 жыл бұрын
As an indigenous woman Thankyou for talking about the sexual abuse rates that we suffer from. It’s not talked about as much as it should be
@r.j.penfold
@r.j.penfold 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry to hear about that. Whenever I watch true crime or things talking about history that hasn't been revised I'm shocked and disgusted how poorly treated y'all get. It's not fair, you guys are human beings, not some "weird savages" that history tries to paint every indigenous individual as. I don't mean to come off offensive in my wording, I apologize if I have. I don't even want to think about what it's like for indigenous folks who are a part of the LGBTQIA+ community... This is why I hate America. And I live here. It suuuuuuucks.
@Litalici0us
@Litalici0us 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video! Jasmine and Pocahontas styles are basically the réflexion of how occidental men see "exotical" women. Thats was just them expressing their fantasies. They never had thé intention to make some historical/cultural accuracies. Definetly agree with the fact that Ariel's dress color was an awful choice. They could have chose turquoise or green it would work for her. And the glitter dress was Amazing i would love Disney to give it more lights, they could have work more on the structure détails of the dress (bottom and waist) it looks like the dress isnt finished yet. Also, I've been saying this forever but Aurora's dresses definetly needed to have more Shades of blue and/or pink in it. It would look way better. About belles dress i've just Always hated the whole style, not only talking about the dress but the hairstyle is... Meh
@delicate7109
@delicate7109 3 жыл бұрын
Okay about the dress color, ariel got her dress from Eric, it's most likely that they had a pink dress laying around rather than a mint green one, also in a lot of her artwork she's shown in a seafoam green dress
@thekitkatlizard8661
@thekitkatlizard8661 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they intended for the glitter dress to be her real one and then backtracked? Honestly most of the time I just see her in her seashell bikini...
@cmd0317
@cmd0317 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a comment about the pink dress coming off as her being “a literal fish out of water”
@vikingsong2068
@vikingsong2068 3 жыл бұрын
Well Disney was originally based on White European culture. PoC demanded to be included because "cultural appropriation" is a one way street steeped in double standards and hypocrisy. To be honest, I'd rather Disney had stayed White. It was better before PoC ruined it.
@joseeeee2626
@joseeeee2626 3 жыл бұрын
@@vikingsong2068 Was that supposed to be intentionally racist? Not being rude but just a general question because the last sentence makes the comment look bad in my opinion.
@jackilynncrenshaw1964
@jackilynncrenshaw1964 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is close to my native American ancestry, the movie Pocahontas makes me sick. They literally romanticized a sad story of a CHILD and left out all the icky things and made her older to be more "appealing" like wtf a story like hers shouldn't be changed just to be shared and spread misinformation about how Native Americans were REALLY treated.
@rubym4760
@rubym4760 3 жыл бұрын
i’m not a native american but i’ve always found the movie sick it felt like it was mocking of your culture and they were romanticizing a guy how came slaughtered people and stole land it’s disgusting
@MicahRion
@MicahRion 3 жыл бұрын
+
@A_Strawberry
@A_Strawberry 3 жыл бұрын
Blame the book its based off.
@jackilynncrenshaw1964
@jackilynncrenshaw1964 3 жыл бұрын
@@A_Strawberry doesn't mean they had to make a movie off of it..
@bleedingbellybutton9403
@bleedingbellybutton9403 3 жыл бұрын
They made a sequel which shows her with her husband that's just as gross
@Ifra444
@Ifra444 3 жыл бұрын
They didnt have to do jasmine like that - literally her dress is nothing like what it should have been and they combined so many different cultures into one and said yep that's what you're all getting. Like arabian and indian and other cultures are so so different, they're just too lazy to give us all some good representation.
@Habibteaa
@Habibteaa 3 жыл бұрын
So true. They see all us all as homogenous, just combined south Asian and Middle Eastern... like her tiger being called Raja LOL
@fatoumfatoumeh
@fatoumfatoumeh 3 жыл бұрын
They put an Arab princess in a belly dancer’s outfit. It was a show of disrespect, fetishizing and sexualizing Arab women who have always been known to be modest and conservative.
@Ifra444
@Ifra444 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatoumfatoumeh absolutely, its awful. Adding to the sexualised stereotypes for ""exotic"" women.
@kitkat299
@kitkat299 3 жыл бұрын
Yupp orientalism it's gross and racist.
@orchidsarepretty1422
@orchidsarepretty1422 3 жыл бұрын
Does scenes have always made me uncomfortable, but you guys aren’t the only brown people. I’m brown and Hispanic.
@NA-ht5qz
@NA-ht5qz 3 жыл бұрын
As an Arab woman myself, Jasmine’s dress is very upsetting. They could have made her wear slightly loose drapes (wouldn’t be too upsetting if it is slightly cinched at the waste since they love that) with a sheer veil or something. It would still look veeery pretty. Most Disney princesses wore modestly and still looked nice. Arab women even prior to Islam wore very modestly even with veils.. so I don’t get why they had her dress like a belly dancer ?? No princess at that time would ever wear like that. You wouldn’t see a European princess wear something like that would you?? And what upsets me mostly is how they smashed two cultures together? Like both cultures are individually very rich and could have focused only on one and still had so much substance to work with. It is disrespectful to mix both. Do westerns see us and south asians all the same???
@lifeisascam
@lifeisascam 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pakistani (so south asian) and from what I've seen... yes, yes westerners seem to think our cultures are the same despite being very, very different.
@clips_a_la_menthe
@clips_a_la_menthe 3 жыл бұрын
@@lifeisascam I am wondering if you can tell the différences between the different regions of the « Western World » too ... It always seems more diversified in your own region, isn’t it ? 😉 And if you know that even among western european countries, the culture is very different... and even among a single country which can be 5 times smaller than India😅😅 I am French, not a very large country, and there is huge cultural, architectural, cooking differences between regions, and so I am perfectly aware that between the so large Asian continent, there are A LOT of cultural differences SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH but every westerner don’t speak the same language (≈ 40 dialects in France 3 generations ago... before the WW1, the majority of French people didn’t know how to speak French! The « westerners » cannot be seen as previous colonialists considering that 95% of the population (at least in France) was made of peasants ) So, well, speaking about how westerners think doesn’t make more sense than speaking about how « Asians » think, like if they were all thinking or knowing the same thing with such cultural and gerographical distance between them
@lifeisascam
@lifeisascam 3 жыл бұрын
@@clips_a_la_menthe Ah, sorry, I should havs said "americans" sorry for using the wrong word, english isnt my first language either. In any case, I'm sorry for offending you. I really just meant americans,, and again not all of them just a large percentage.
@thekitkatlizard8661
@thekitkatlizard8661 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they didn't hesitate to give Ariel, a teen girl, a shell bra, and Belle probably was saved because of her booknerd personality. And Ariel's final dress was some weird, tight, modern dress with a low neckline. The original three princesses were created when America had different, more modesty focused opinions on women showing skin, and were likely dressed modestly because of that, so had they made more than two white princesses during the reinassence I wouldn't doubt they would try to pull some disgusting things with them as well. The next princess was made in 2009, and by then people had finally started caring about accuracy and not sexualising children so they couldn't try anything like this again. Though bellydancers having the most well known outfit in the west didn't help either, so they were probably mostly lazy. If they did bother to give her a more accurate outfit, thanks to her personality and the time period they would've gone out of their way to find a way to make it sexy anyways :( But Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, and maybe Belle all have very modern(ly American) dresses for the time they were published instead of traditional ones as well so honestly Disney is just kind of disappointing all around
@criticalhard
@criticalhard 3 жыл бұрын
How is that disrespectful? that's just a fictional movie, i'm pretty sure if that movie was set in one country only people would still find a way to criticize.
@desanipt
@desanipt 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood dresses with trains (including modern ones). They just end up sweeping every place they go to and get really dirt really quick :/
@noname-zr8jd
@noname-zr8jd 3 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure back in the day rich women had servants to carry their long trains so it was like a status/wealth thing but now trains seem dumb to have
@e.s.r5809
@e.s.r5809 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! Historically dresses with trains would have a "dust ruffle", a ruffled bit of sturdy, cheaper fabric under the train that kept the more expensive fabric off the floor and away from dirt. It would be just tacked into place, so that it could be easily removed and replaced for washing or once it got worn out.
@desanipt
@desanipt 3 жыл бұрын
@@e.s.r5809 That's very interesting! I didn't know that, thanks you!
@Turquerina
@Turquerina 2 жыл бұрын
They're also usually worn indoors, likely on costly rugs and well maintained floors. Mainly because women, especially of a higher status, tend to stay indoors which also gives preference to fair complexion as opposed to the tans you'd get from toiling under the sun in the fields. And even then, I believe that super long train weren't exactly worn 24/7 because those kinds of gowns were typically reserved for special occasions, like a wedding or ball.
@bug1390
@bug1390 2 жыл бұрын
Depends where you wear it to
@nymmkins179
@nymmkins179 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like Pocahontas because it is romanticizing a 10 year old girl who went through horrible stuff.
@lpsfairylightz6468
@lpsfairylightz6468 3 жыл бұрын
She was 10?! Oh my god 🤮
@darklilith96
@darklilith96 3 жыл бұрын
@@lpsfairylightz6468 not in the animation, in the animation they aged her so she's around 18...they're talking about the real Pocahontas, the one in the text books
@lpsfairylightz6468
@lpsfairylightz6468 3 жыл бұрын
Lilian Alves I know they are talking about textbook- I’m just saying that it’s disgusting that Disney would try to romanticize such things happening to a ten year old.
@juliameyer10313
@juliameyer10313 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like Pocahontas because it glorifies colonisation. Like how there was one bad guy and the rest just didn't understand each other. In the song savages thisis made perfectly clear. Disney tries to act like both parties are the same and both are at fault when historically speaking, this is furthest from the truth. They also tried to glance over the brutal treatment of natives in the second film
@PGOuma
@PGOuma 3 жыл бұрын
@@juliameyer10313 ty!!!
@me-cp7he
@me-cp7he 3 жыл бұрын
The whole point of Ariel’s pink dress is that it’s *NOT* hers. It was literally a borrowed dress that they had at the castle and put her in because she didn’t have anything to wear. She was a (literal) fish out of water and it showed that perfectly. It wasn’t really meant to look good on her. Pretty dress and pretty girl but they weren’t meant for each other.
@haley5735
@haley5735 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is why Disney shouldn't have used it for her marketing.
@kenzie-rm
@kenzie-rm 3 жыл бұрын
YESS thank you.
@BoxOKittens
@BoxOKittens 3 жыл бұрын
Well it WAS meant to look good on her, this is Disney they'd never be so brave as to intentionally have one of their heroines look 'ugly' in something. But I do get your point and I agree, the dress wasn't made (in the movie) for her, but still would've been nice if the marketing team had caught on to that and put her toys in green sooner. But better late than never I suppose.
@micaelagordon7328
@micaelagordon7328 3 жыл бұрын
Furthermore, the pink color of her dress is a good way to show her love for Eric and the idealization of a life out of the water, something romantic for her.
@annaannaanna354
@annaannaanna354 3 жыл бұрын
Raisins and Capers thats why they changed it to the emerald color to compliment her red hair. now face chacters at disney that play her wear the emerald dress
@JHVH
@JHVH 3 жыл бұрын
*Mina:* “I can’t think of another animated character with a red blue and yellow color scheme” *Sailor Moon has left the chat*
@GoddoDoggo
@GoddoDoggo 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I think she means outfit color scheme, not counting the hair.
@oof8847
@oof8847 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo characters:
@donutpersonisme
@donutpersonisme 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoddoDoggo she does have a bit of yellow but it's mostly overpowered by the gold
@sleepyzeezee1660
@sleepyzeezee1660 2 жыл бұрын
I was scrolling through the comments and she said that exact part as I watched the video
@sonianevermindultimateprin659
@sonianevermindultimateprin659 2 жыл бұрын
lol, i think she was talking about disney ones though
@confusedpotato5017
@confusedpotato5017 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny how Disney took the German originals and just made everything so sparkly sparkly rainbow unicorn glitter sugary, when in the originals it was more bloody bloody bloodily bloody.
@confusedpotato5017
@confusedpotato5017 3 жыл бұрын
@@hemnamusunur6088 the originals were made for children too. We hear them as bedtime stories here, if we don't wanna hear about ppl whose thumbs get cut off, guys who starve bc they don't like soup or the girl who set herself on fire ofc.
@confusedpotato5017
@confusedpotato5017 3 жыл бұрын
@@hemnamusunur6088 yeah ik, it kinda has an educational value, at least it's supposed to. But i get your point
@shawnbay2211
@shawnbay2211 2 жыл бұрын
@@confusedpotato5017 maybe kids back then we’re hard as nails or something. I know for the Inuit, storytelling was extremely beneficial for their children [it probably wasn’t bloody though]. For me, I like sparkles. I like the look of glamourised synthetic things.
@talbotpassant
@talbotpassant 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've read a few of the classics in my German classes, and let me tell you the brothers Grimm lived up to their names... yiikkes
@stellaphillips9501
@stellaphillips9501 2 жыл бұрын
In the german versions everyone got their eyes gauged out. Like every story had a person loose their eyes. Very bloody
@deborasilva3746
@deborasilva3746 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with making the dresses historically accurate is that they have too many details, it would be hell to animate them by hand. But i do agree that there where some shapes and colours they could have changed (especially Jasmine's).
@kishinumaayumi
@kishinumaayumi 3 жыл бұрын
Yea definitely but at the same time, you can still do detailed animations eithout making them too detailed. Like simplifying thise details. Trims can just be one colour with some lines or beads can just be made into shapes or little textures.
@angelabby2379
@angelabby2379 3 жыл бұрын
lol its not about details. the peasant clothes worn by jasmine is way way more accurate than her blue belly dancer costume
@emmaryartistry2874
@emmaryartistry2874 3 жыл бұрын
I don't blame them for making the dresses simpler and more appealing, but sexualization of the cultural dresses and clothing is very irritating. And the fact they changed Bells dress. The concept art was gorgeous, and not much more detailed than the final product. The dresses are artistic expressions, not made to be accurate, but drive the visual story telling. As the said, accuracy isn't the top priority, considering theirs magic, witches, and other fantasy elements.
@breew1702
@breew1702 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is, keeping any detail consistent is a lot of work. Sure making some trim seems easy but you have to make it flow with the rest of the dress in a 3d space. Same with any small bead. You have to keep it consistent within a 3d space. Costs way too much money for something so insignificant
@Sophieperky
@Sophieperky 3 жыл бұрын
Bree W Animation student here to back this up. To give you an idea, I worked on a 30 second animation that was full coloured and included a more simplified version of a victorian coat. That alone took me about 4 weeks to finish. 3 seconds can take an animator anywhere between a few hours to an entire day depending on how fluid the movement it. Disney strives for very fluid animation where the characters move alot. To animate even really small details at disneys fluidity, on disneys budget at the time, with the amount if staff disney had at the time and the traditional disney framing techniques would be hell! I agree that sexualising a culture is wrong! That’s a given, and adding more fabric and layers in areas for accuracy would be fine. But as for decorative details, nah bro, even back in the 90’s it would be be complicated and it would probably result in staff being underpaid for extra work and unfair outsourcing (something I don’t doubt disney don’t already do oof)
@mennaaly2460
@mennaaly2460 3 жыл бұрын
The way Disney sexualizes women of color character is disgusting
@TheCuriousFinch
@TheCuriousFinch 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Tiana wasn't sexualized
@bonniehowell4259
@bonniehowell4259 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Go back and watch The little Mermaid along with Pinocchio to see how Ariel Md Tinkerbell wwre sexualized..
@UwU-yd4vc
@UwU-yd4vc 3 жыл бұрын
Except for tianna
@kisinaa8032
@kisinaa8032 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennas9033 yeah like Tiana was a FROG. ofc she's not as sexualized when she's not even human for over half of the movie
@mennaaly2460
@mennaaly2460 3 жыл бұрын
@@bonniehowell4259 you’re so pathetic just please shut the fuck up
@loreleiflare7388
@loreleiflare7388 3 жыл бұрын
Aurora's neckline is probably angular because the team deliberately made her general design (and that of most characters) more angular/"pointy", to recall the style of stained glass windows and tapestries. Funny enough, this actually made a lot of people see her as less attractive than previous princesses, because "dollface" was in back then.
@caIyps0
@caIyps0 3 жыл бұрын
maybe unpopular opinion, but i actually love the Sleeping Beauty visuals and the aesthetic. the pointy look is iconic to me :'D
@loreleiflare7388
@loreleiflare7388 3 жыл бұрын
​@@caIyps0 It's funny, because it's a much more common aesthetic nowadays - we are very much overly celebratory of skinniness, if anything. That said, having an angular jaw does make it easier to headcanon her as trans. A girl with strong shoulders and jaw, raised in the woods by three sweet old lesbians, classically dressed in pink and blue, who also goes by a flower name and mostly avoids her parents? You think we didn't notice, Disney?
@caIyps0
@caIyps0 3 жыл бұрын
@@loreleiflare7388 aahgghh i was just digging the aesthetic, nothing deeper than that :''DD but hey, that's a very nice interpretation✨✨
@mysaria7641
@mysaria7641 2 жыл бұрын
sleeping beauty aesthetic was definitely much prettier
@alli8869
@alli8869 2 жыл бұрын
I still think she's the most beautiful princess..
@rebeccafarrell3680
@rebeccafarrell3680 3 жыл бұрын
"Westernization does not equate to feminism." Thank you!
@comptgoogl4471
@comptgoogl4471 2 жыл бұрын
True. But people often misuse this word: Jasmine was not westernized, not her features nor her clothes or the place she lives in. Same for Mulan. Actually, most Disney princesses were not westernized. I'm still waiting for an African princess (well, more sub-Saharan one, than Egyptian or Moroccan since both of these countries already have a huge worldwide exposure in pop culture). Because Princess & the Frog was more Black-Americans. Imagine a Kenyan princess.
@Indonesianboy
@Indonesianboy Жыл бұрын
​@@comptgoogl4471 actually Aladdin and Jasmune speaking with American accent while Jafar speaking with Arab accent .
@tiramisu066
@tiramisu066 3 жыл бұрын
Miss, i’ve never seen ANYBODY pull off those extremely thin (literally non-existent) pencil brows like you do and i’m shook 👁👄👁
@maddiepaddy2608
@maddiepaddy2608 3 жыл бұрын
ikr usually they fugly but something about her face.. maybe how they arent like dark black? anyways 10/10
@girlsuckmydick
@girlsuckmydick 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting heavy 1920's vibes from them and I adore it!
@homosexual4757
@homosexual4757 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen lots of attractive ppl with them, I love seeing different types of eyebrows and it really goes with her aesthetic^-^
@isimp9231
@isimp9231 3 жыл бұрын
She's like.....otherworldly beauty lol 😂💞
@shelbyinmon8654
@shelbyinmon8654 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've only seen people with mono lids be able to pull it off ( I think that is what she has)
@rayeannedalton3274
@rayeannedalton3274 3 жыл бұрын
And! Notice how none of the “non exotic” outfits are super sexualized but jasmines and pocahontas’s are??
@edwarddrake8992
@edwarddrake8992 3 жыл бұрын
It's because of when the movies were made. Unfortunately, those movies, despite to a degree not seeming like it, are both sexist and racist. But back then it was the norm. I like The Princess And The Frog because it's not like that. Edit: I like The Princess And The Frog because it doesn't have a sexualised main female character. Also, frogs are god, don't diss the frog
@maya4237
@maya4237 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwarddrake8992 yea, instead of a black princess, we get a frog :/
@jizzypuff
@jizzypuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@maya4237 atleast they put in a tiny bit of effort, Hispanics don't have a legit disney princess. Sure we have disney tv shows but we don't have a real Disney movie princess which is stupid.
@maya4237
@maya4237 3 жыл бұрын
jizzypuff we can argue the meaning of effort but fr we need a Latina queen no shade towards Elena and Sophia
@jizzypuff
@jizzypuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@maya4237 oh yeah I'm not trying to argue about the amount of effort they put in. Although tiana is beautiful, they are doing women of color dirty. My five year old daughter loves Elena of avalor but there is no legit disney movie princess that she relates to (although Moana is her favorite out of all of them)
@ceciliar.l.1246
@ceciliar.l.1246 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder about when people in the future are gonna be like,”In that time era, skater skirts were particularly popular, being worn regularly with...”
@whereislamp3912
@whereislamp3912 3 жыл бұрын
Literally everything else about all of disney's Pocahontas movies: 0/10 The songs from Pocahontas: 10/10
@ghostlyhousehorrors
@ghostlyhousehorrors Жыл бұрын
Art design that wasn't the of the natives and Pocahontas's awful outfits were stunning tbh, i loved the backgrounds
@misstuxbrandi
@misstuxbrandi Жыл бұрын
But I love Meeko and Flit😢
@LUNARIANADeluxe
@LUNARIANADeluxe 3 жыл бұрын
alternative title: snow white drags every disney princess (including herself)
@muddywater1710
@muddywater1710 3 жыл бұрын
Ps: Also steals Ariels dress and proceeds to drag it too
@hyungeum2907
@hyungeum2907 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like Pocahontas because it is romanticizing a 10 year old girl who went through horrible stuff.
@LUNARIANADeluxe
@LUNARIANADeluxe 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyungeum2907 i didnt mention pocahontas
@cheddarcheezit2647
@cheddarcheezit2647 3 жыл бұрын
@@LUNARIANADeluxe I think they replied to the wrong comment. It happens to me all the time xD
@sweetwolf4487
@sweetwolf4487 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyungeum2907 She wasn't ten years old she was actually 15 but go off I guess .-.
@kimberlyterasaki4843
@kimberlyterasaki4843 3 жыл бұрын
Also, let's talk about the fact that Jasmine and Pocahontas, two of Disney's most sexualized princesses, were the first Princesses of color and were 15 and 19 (though real life Pocahontas was freakin' 12 when the Jamestown settlers landed). The only good thing about Pocahontas is that Disney (probably, hopefully) won't make a live action adaptation of it. But seriously, thank you for bringing up the fact that these were made by Westerners, for Westerners and how that obscures the facts and skews the truths of these cultures and how they're perceived.
@nemashan3701
@nemashan3701 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, they were both one of the most sexualised princesses and if they DID make a live action pocohontas, i will RIOT. Here's what id want: 1)pocohontas better be twelve 2)she better be played by an indeginous actress 3) there will be an ACCURATE STORY 4) they mention her actual name (matoako, i believe) 5) imagine seeing a little girl DEFEND her enemy. idk kinda sounds badass but indigneous should judge on that scene or not edit: spelling and adding to the list :)
@doodoodoodle
@doodoodoodle 3 жыл бұрын
@@nemashan3701 exactly!! There's no way to live action the Disney fairy tale version without being offensive towards native Americans and life she actually had. I loved Pocahontas, Aladdin, and Mulan as a kid, but once I grew up I realized they totally sugar coated / altered stuff they didn't need to. Idk, I will say that those movies definitely made me interested in other cultures, I just wish they were more accurate. I think Disney is headed in a better direction now at least (like Moana was pretty cute. SHINY.) Also I didn't see them being sexualized as a child because I was innocent, but I can see that now. I love seeing more color and culture coming to cartoons though. I love animation. I'm forever a child lmaoooo
@nemashan3701
@nemashan3701 3 жыл бұрын
@@doodoodoodle bahaha sameee.
@minakyc3003
@minakyc3003 3 жыл бұрын
how do you know jasmine's age?
@sandhyachristine7173
@sandhyachristine7173 3 жыл бұрын
Yes pocohontas was the worst because it was based on a real person. Like at the very least they could have used different names since making it historically accurate would not have been child friendly. But the morals of the story were good. When it comes to Aladdin since the setting is fictional I don't think historical accuracy is as important
@talithamoran8409
@talithamoran8409 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how amazing Jasmine would have looked if Disney had animated her in traditional, historically accurate clothing? It would have been beautiful!!
@JenniferBrigitteOpticalVortex
@JenniferBrigitteOpticalVortex Жыл бұрын
The most beautiful princess dressed in her historical garments would have been gorgeous
@summert1251
@summert1251 3 жыл бұрын
I love how educated this comment section is, I love it when people act maturely about a serious situation.😊
@akashajones6079
@akashajones6079 3 жыл бұрын
Getting angry about every thing is not well educated. This comment section is plaqued by social justice warriors, and people always seeing themselves as the victim.
@biancblavk493
@biancblavk493 3 жыл бұрын
Well educated in the matter of opression olympics
@alisa-cu8mq
@alisa-cu8mq 3 жыл бұрын
@@akashajones6079 who's angry?
@whatislife3603
@whatislife3603 3 жыл бұрын
@@akashajones6079 I can obviously see the type of person you are from this comment 😒. They’re serious issues but ok
@whatislife3603
@whatislife3603 3 жыл бұрын
@@akashajones6079 pretty ignorant but ok
@Puncomfortable
@Puncomfortable 3 жыл бұрын
The reason for the pink vs. blue debate in Sleeping Beauty is because at the time blue was changing from a girl's color to a boy's color and pink visa versa. For Dorothy, Wendy, and Alice their dresses were blue because back then blue was still a girl's color because it was associated with the virgin Mary.
@reversemitosis4213
@reversemitosis4213 2 жыл бұрын
wow thats so interesting
@emilyrose3490
@emilyrose3490 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was because Cinderella’s dress was blue so they had to change it. This makes sense too I guess
@stellarae8257
@stellarae8257 2 жыл бұрын
my understanding is that the switch from blue being a girl color and pink being a boy color etc is that it happened around WWII. has it happened multiple times in history?
@calliode2512
@calliode2512 2 жыл бұрын
@@stellarae8257 From my understanding, not really. But for most of history, pink wasn’t a super popular colour because it was just faded red dye and a rich blue colour was expensive to produce. (Until the invention of unique indigo dyes that led to the invention of the blue jean) That’s where the association of the Virgin Mary wearing blue comes from- and Jesus would often be depicted in pink. Pink paint is much more expensive then pink fabric because it’s not just a faded red, it has to be specifically mixed out of red and white paints. I think the use in renaissance and post-renaissance art allowed pink to become a colour in fashion, where it was used mainly for men because it was still highly associated with red and baby Jesus, but evidence of this is based on *paintings* so it’s kind of a self-contradicting topic. Anyways, no, it’s unlikely any switch between blue and pink’s gender-specific colour identity ever happened before the WWII era, because they didn’t really have those strong associations to most people. Just rich peoplez
@Best_FaceForward
@Best_FaceForward Жыл бұрын
Wow interesting, that's good to know because my favorite color is blue and I always thought it was mainly a boys color, I know it's a girls color too but I love your comment
@FIXON99
@FIXON99 3 жыл бұрын
Mina: idk how to put this nicely, but i just think Ariel’s dress is ugly also Mina: is possibly wearing Ariel’s dress
@noelshelnutt2573
@noelshelnutt2573 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing 🤣
@isimp9231
@isimp9231 3 жыл бұрын
She looks like Snow White with Ariel's dress on 😂
@scriptedmyths7660
@scriptedmyths7660 3 жыл бұрын
omg hahaha
@tori5596
@tori5596 3 жыл бұрын
Literally was gonna comment the same thing like, Idk how to put this nicely but I think ur wearing her so called ugly dress😂
@jjrhwy3376
@jjrhwy3376 3 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason why she found the dress ugly was mainly because it didn't suit Ariel at all. Simply changing the color would've made a big difference.
@hiparifu6889
@hiparifu6889 2 жыл бұрын
Jasmine’s outfit when she left the palace to explore the markets was more accurate than her entire fit throughout the rest of the movie.
@malenafalicoff7532
@malenafalicoff7532 3 жыл бұрын
When you say "does it hurt the story to make it more historically accurate" referring to the dress Belle is wearing, I totally understand what you mean because you clearly know about fashion, etc. But the thing is that when you are designing a character you have to make it "animatable", It's incredible hard and you have to think that 1 second of animation are 24 frames, 24 drawings. Imagining having to animate every detail hundreds of times. So they make dresses and clothes that they can animate, and that means having to simplify them even If they dont want to. Also, the characters (skin tones and clothes) have to contrast with the backgrounds (settings), because If not its going to make the color pallete in general look really "similar" and nothing would stand out. That's why Snow white dress have those colors, to make her pop off the screen. I study animation so I just wanted to explain/tell these things. Everyone analyze something from their field of expertise.
@shawnbay2211
@shawnbay2211 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. 100%. Animation is extremely intensive. And I just have to tolerate the Disney Princess™️ brand dresses. It’s like most of them wore a similar dress in the film so it’s hard to market it.
@smwatertasteslikewater
@smwatertasteslikewater Жыл бұрын
If you can’t animate a good dress, you shouldn’t be animating a dress at all
@Mialikesthings
@Mialikesthings Жыл бұрын
@@smwatertasteslikewaterif you don’t know anything about art don’t say stuff about it 😊
@LightMoon7890
@LightMoon7890 6 ай бұрын
Maybe they could at least make a good dress for like a short? Like a little dance short where belle wears a historical dress. They make the dress cool for the dolls at least
@sophieplumbob2900
@sophieplumbob2900 3 жыл бұрын
Your blouse reminded me of Ariel’s dress and then you came for it. 💀
@creativemotives7272
@creativemotives7272 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao fr. I heard that and looked at her blouse and 🌝
@NyxieLove22
@NyxieLove22 3 жыл бұрын
Ariels dress is ugly and is her blouse so like she came for Ariel and herself
@urdadsleftasshole69
@urdadsleftasshole69 3 жыл бұрын
The difference is the colour scheme. It's a nice dress, but it looked bad on Ariel because of her hair colour, while Mina found a way to match it correctly.
@urdadsleftasshole69
@urdadsleftasshole69 3 жыл бұрын
@@NyxieLove22 nah, I really like it. To each their own or whatever, but I think it's cute
@missg8861
@missg8861 3 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I was thinking! Very funny touch and made me like her more
@daemo72
@daemo72 3 жыл бұрын
As an artist who has dabbled in animation, it takes a lot of time to draw ruffles and little bits of detail in a dress. Most of the animation studios make the necessary decision to remove details that would take too much time and money to add.
@janne6200
@janne6200 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it!
@b.c4440
@b.c4440 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The princess dresses all have easy animation features in common. They have a limited color palette, have broad areas of color, simplified shapes and distinct silhouettes.
@ConcietedMuchXD
@ConcietedMuchXD 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very underrated comment!!!!
@anniboogi
@anniboogi 3 жыл бұрын
This!!!
@sofiae587
@sofiae587 3 жыл бұрын
also i think that since the renaissance era there was set an ideal silouette for the commercialization of the dresses (colors, estructure/shape), so making these super elaborated details would have not been such a success in the eyes of little kids who judge what they want by just the visualization of it.
@tranquilitybasehotelcasino2932
@tranquilitybasehotelcasino2932 3 жыл бұрын
ariel’s blue and white dress was so pretty! it’s simple and the bow is adorable (also as a redhead blue is the best)
@randomkword
@randomkword 3 жыл бұрын
“I can’t think of any of character with a red blue and yellow color scheme” Superman: 👁👄👁
@luv_strawberriez
@luv_strawberriez 3 жыл бұрын
She said disney
@randomkword
@randomkword 3 жыл бұрын
@@luv_strawberriez 5:50 "I can't think of any animated character that has the same scheme" did you even check ma'am
@urmom16969
@urmom16969 3 жыл бұрын
donald duck and sailormoon:👁👄👁
@xXJoeyXxcoooool
@xXJoeyXxcoooool Жыл бұрын
Bart Simpson
@katitadeb
@katitadeb 3 жыл бұрын
To me Ariel's dress is not iconic because she's a mermaid, I only see her with her tail and... "bra"
@kisinaa8032
@kisinaa8032 3 жыл бұрын
i think her dress should have been light purple to match the shells she wears as a mermaid
@dallasswain5549
@dallasswain5549 3 жыл бұрын
Actually i like her green dress i think its nice on her at least it fits well since shes a mermaid
@hadassah6563
@hadassah6563 3 жыл бұрын
The blue sparkling dress is way more iconic. Even though you see her in it for about 10 seconds
@TuesdaysArt
@TuesdaysArt 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Ariel looks in blue and seafoam green. Pink is a nice color but it doesn't fit Ariel.
@astralkilla
@astralkilla 2 жыл бұрын
They definitely should have done a green,purple, or seafoam dress. I mean even a mermaid style dress would have helped with her character. If they had done it historically accurate & had put more work into her dress they could have embodied her character a lot better than the dress they chose. I feel like the pink dress was a major flop
@lemongeth
@lemongeth 3 жыл бұрын
It was eye opening to see how much the two brown princesses' culture were distorted
@kisinaa8032
@kisinaa8032 3 жыл бұрын
@@hanit279 yeah. if ur skin is brown. Like i'm native american and i'm technically a person of colour but my skin is pretty light so i'm not really "brown."
@louriewylde9293
@louriewylde9293 3 жыл бұрын
I think a Moana was done better.
@clips_a_la_menthe
@clips_a_la_menthe 3 жыл бұрын
What does brown mean? Is it a new term to say swarthy or tanned ?
@clips_a_la_menthe
@clips_a_la_menthe 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennas9033 Thanks! We have no corresponding expression in French
@ridabhinder6098
@ridabhinder6098 3 жыл бұрын
@@clips_a_la_menthe The world isn't just black and white
@VictoriaZimm
@VictoriaZimm 3 жыл бұрын
being middle eastern, Jasmine has always been my favorite Disney princess. however, her outfit is very inaccurate. it’s hella disrespectful that Disney thinks it’s okay to modify our culture/s to fit their westernized/sexually appealing fantasies about middle eastern women. :/
@jcbrad4709
@jcbrad4709 Жыл бұрын
its just a movie i always liked jasmines clothes
@jgk6863
@jgk6863 3 жыл бұрын
I am European/Afrikaans and no one has ever taught me much about the American continents, countries and culture so hearing about the indigenous women really hit me quite hard. We really need to talk about this more.
@noodles1291
@noodles1291 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why the dresses aren’t more historically accurate is because they have to animate it all, if they put tons of ruffles on the dress they’d be drawing those ruffles about a million more times, slowing down the process. Also they are marketing to children so these dresses have to be made into toys and intricate dresses are more expensive to produce than simpler ones. No excuse for not having an accurate silhouette
@Yussirah_
@Yussirah_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennas9033 yup for jasmine, its probaly the worse one yet. I loved the idea but it was just sooooo inaccurate
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennas9033 I fail to see how she's sexualized... Maybe in the US, showing a little bit of belly is sexual but that sounds weird to me. I mean, Ariel is literally half-naked for most of the Little Mermaid.
@starz4220
@starz4220 3 жыл бұрын
I think she knows that, she’s probably just pointing out what they would actually look like but I think she knows it would be hard for Disney to do that
@kordeliiius9821
@kordeliiius9821 3 жыл бұрын
Let me just add that silhouettes are an incredibly important step of designing an animated character, so that should’ve been the first thing on their minds
@mvvx313
@mvvx313 3 жыл бұрын
@@_blank-_ Ariel is a mermaid, Jasmine is a human arab princess, and one of the most preserved ideology that we have in our culture is Modesty. No arab princess in history has ever wore that. Belly dance customes are made for belly dancers and it doesn’t show just a little belly..... her whole legs, chest n back . Its this the presentation that little arab girls r supposed to have bout our history n how the westerns view us.
@hope3290
@hope3290 3 жыл бұрын
The simple answer to why Disney didn't care about historical accuracy in many of their character designs: all those ruffles and folds and details and accessories would be a PAIN to animate.
@ManiacalBlueberry
@ManiacalBlueberry 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention its for children and they honestly couldn't give 5 shits
@FantasticBeasts2024
@FantasticBeasts2024 3 жыл бұрын
And less popular for modern audiences plus they would probably date as dresses for young girls.
@hmmm173
@hmmm173 3 жыл бұрын
Also marketing. They need to sell toys and shit
@croatianeurofan5497
@croatianeurofan5497 3 жыл бұрын
0:00 Intro 1:12 Snow White (1937) 6:21 Cinderella (1950) 9:36 Aurora (1959) 12:44 Ariel (1989) 15:41 Belle (1991) 18:03 Jasmine (1992) 22:34 Pocahontas (1995) 26:25 Outro
@marsmallow7245
@marsmallow7245 8 ай бұрын
Thank youuu 🙏
@prikazuju
@prikazuju 4 ай бұрын
hvala ti croatia eurofanu 🙏🙏
@TheGPFilmMaker
@TheGPFilmMaker 3 жыл бұрын
My mother's family is Eastern Band of Cherokee and my father's family is Persian and so I greatly appreciated the Jasmine and Pochahontas sections of this video so much. With the amount of vagueness in the Aladin story, I don't understand why they couldn't have copied some of the really fabulous Turkish and Persian clothing from the 16th to 18th century and had to revert to belly dancer tropes. Also if you're ever looking for information on Native American clothing check out the complete works of Edward S Curtiss, who was a 19th-century photographer that self-funded anthropological expeditions to document the traditional clothing and practice of Native Americans. They are quite spectacular.
@guesswhoshere8024
@guesswhoshere8024 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Arab not Persian
@lo-fiaesthetic5382
@lo-fiaesthetic5382 2 жыл бұрын
@@guesswhoshere8024 Aladdin is a terribly inaccurate movie, it mixed up Persian, Arab and Desi cultures
@guesswhoshere8024
@guesswhoshere8024 2 жыл бұрын
@@lo-fiaesthetic5382 v true
@lillitaft9195
@lillitaft9195 3 жыл бұрын
i really love how they only made the women of color so sexualized 🤦‍♀️ 🙄
@hsonmari6665
@hsonmari6665 3 жыл бұрын
It’s 💯 true they’re the most sexualised, although I think some of Ariel’s ‘poses’ are too; Usually when she’s coming out of the water, tilting her head, looking up from under her lashes, thrusting herself chest first... typical of Disney to sexualise children’s content
@thevioletskull8158
@thevioletskull8158 3 жыл бұрын
Hson Mari oh god-
@isimp9231
@isimp9231 3 жыл бұрын
@@hsonmari6665 ugh now that I look back on it, yes- 😐
@xXPurpleCougar16Xx
@xXPurpleCougar16Xx 3 жыл бұрын
@@hsonmari6665 I feel like theres very few selection of poses to do as a mermaid lol. It's kind of like a seal pose. I don't see the sexuality in her having lashes and sitting like that etc.
@hsonmari6665
@hsonmari6665 3 жыл бұрын
Tiffany N. I’d love to see the little mermaid doing some awkward seal flops coming out of the ocean 🤣. “Hey Eric 👋🏻”
@nadeenabuhalima6365
@nadeenabuhalima6365 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly thank you so much for speaking about Jasmine's outfit the way you did. As a muslim, Arab woman it really bugged me how inaccurate disney made Jasmine. They had no idea what they were doing, or maybe they just didn't care idk.. I love the line "westernization does not equate feminism". You summed it up perfectly.
@perfumedsilk4025
@perfumedsilk4025 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@someone-wk2wj
@someone-wk2wj 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I’m Algerian, if you consider that Arab, and I remember being a little girl and being kinda disappointed at her outfit. I was so excited to see a movie depicting something similar to my culture, and possibly a Muslim princess. I was confused when I saw her cause I’d assumed she would be Muslim but her outfit was very wrong, I thought she would be wearing a hijab, or at least some kind of veil. Instead she came out looking more like a belly dancer than a princess.
@nadeenabuhalima6365
@nadeenabuhalima6365 3 жыл бұрын
@@someone-wk2wj EXACTLY!! THIS! She looks exactly like a belly dancer! Which is terrible they're basically sexualising and fetishising "exotic" people. The most sexualised princesses are Jasmine and Pocahontas, the first 2 colored "exotic" princesses... It seriously sucks, especially when our culture is the literal opposite of this.
@judesulieman2245
@judesulieman2245 3 жыл бұрын
I am Arab too and I do not mind Disney westernizing her to market to a more western audience, I mean we did have Fulla. However, them modelling her after a belly dancer and the scene where she seduces Jaafar did not sit well with me.
@someone-wk2wj
@someone-wk2wj 3 жыл бұрын
@@judesulieman2245 who’s Fulla?
@marriedtoimyeojinandnayeon8143
@marriedtoimyeojinandnayeon8143 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I hated Alladin sooooo much because I was confused why they didn't represent the Arabs as it, like Jasmine was young and on the time she was alive no way she would dress like that not to say she's a princess and for a princess the king would NEVER let his daughter dress in some cheap stuff and showy, so I really hated it with all my heart, I still do
@comptgoogl4471
@comptgoogl4471 2 жыл бұрын
In pre-Islamic Arabia, royalty women would definitely wear a much more detailed & 'modest' attire. I put 'modest' in brakes because the amount of work & detail would definitely make the outfit shine and expansive in an obvious way. Jasmine wearing a bellydancer outfit would be like Cinderella or Aurora wearing a cabaret outfit lol and hanging around in such clothes.
@popcornpenguin6225
@popcornpenguin6225 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you don’t just look at the style bc of style you explain why it is that style and how it affects people, society and cultures. This is the most well rounded, thought through princess review I have ever seen. You looked at each one through multiple perspectives. Love it! ❤️
@nonbinarycode993
@nonbinarycode993 3 жыл бұрын
They should've put Ariel in lavender you can't change my mind
@pinksugar5599
@pinksugar5599 3 жыл бұрын
Well they give it to her in second movie
@pennybennett874
@pennybennett874 3 жыл бұрын
worddd
@jessicaaskew9173
@jessicaaskew9173 3 жыл бұрын
Shes also wearing lavender coming out of the water at the end I think
@candicoated2001
@candicoated2001 3 жыл бұрын
Seafoam green. Would have completely her hair and eyes as well as pay homage to her connection to the ocean.
@offbeatkiki
@offbeatkiki 3 жыл бұрын
I would just take her tail/shell colors and make them a dress.
@bernadettebanner
@bernadettebanner 3 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome analysis! 🤩✨
@gremlita
@gremlita 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Bernadette! ❤️
@princessn2275
@princessn2275 3 жыл бұрын
Right!!
@mell_s9065
@mell_s9065 3 жыл бұрын
The only problem is that she didn't realize that they would have to remove some elements to make the animation easier and more realistic
@sorexlozen8968
@sorexlozen8968 3 жыл бұрын
“I think the dress is pretty ugly” The child in me: *Exasperated Gasp*
@sofiesalgado5851
@sofiesalgado5851 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that all the princesses were so young! snow white was only 14
@humanbeing-ep4eu
@humanbeing-ep4eu 3 жыл бұрын
I recently watched Aladdin, and I noticed in the first bit with Aladdin running away from the guards, he jumps through a window into a room where there appears to be a h*rem. All the women there are dressed basically exactly like Jasmine. That confused me a bit, as that doesn't make sense in any way, shape, or form.
@Layla-rv7ym
@Layla-rv7ym 3 жыл бұрын
They were female entertainers (prostitutes) lol. You can see that they treated Aladdin badly because he had been there before and they knew he was poor. They were dressed like that because their job probably required them to belly dance and such to attract attention and costumers, though then again, considering the region and era I'm not sure how much open and revealing even prostitutes could have been back then. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@StrongestLibrafluidAlive
@StrongestLibrafluidAlive 3 жыл бұрын
why censor harem?
@jenicalockhart2056
@jenicalockhart2056 2 жыл бұрын
They were more covered than jasmine
@zoarium4289
@zoarium4289 2 жыл бұрын
h a r e m. why censor words nobody gets triggered by?
@distraughtlesbian
@distraughtlesbian 2 жыл бұрын
@@zoarium4289 youtube censorship is more likely than the word being offensive, like how people on tiktok will say shit like “unalive” and “real life game over” when discussing s/uicide so their videos don’t get flagged.
@grassina3
@grassina3 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not Native American, but Native Brazilian, and growing up I had zero role models or representation of my people. Pocahontas was the closest thing I had. It sucks how she was designed with the white male gaze in mind, but at the time just seeing a girl who looked like me was so amazing. My feelings on are a lot more bittersweet now that I’ve grown older and learned more about the situation. I really love how you discuss these issues, it’s so important to being awareness to these things!
@-ib.3869
@-ib.3869 3 жыл бұрын
Pior que é bem isso. Ou o Brasil não é representado, ou é representado de maneira péssima.
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 3 жыл бұрын
My take is not to beat ourselves too hard. These movies were products of their time with their shortcomings and problems. They also introduced millions of kids like you and me to characters that were not pasty-white. They told us that we could be heroes too. While it's important to be aware of their flaws and to look for authenticity, we shouldn't go all the way around and throw stones at them. It just means that it's time for us to write our own stories.
@profissio1917
@profissio1917 3 жыл бұрын
Me irrita muito que toda/qualquer representação de países sul americanos e centro americanos, é mostrado como algo mais amarelado e sujo (não só em filmes da disney, mas filmes americanos em geral) acho que pra mostrar pobreza??? E quando tem alguma representação (como em Rio ou Viva a vida é uma festa) é muito esteriotipado e não retratam a cultura direito, mudam e misturam coisas.
@HimekaR
@HimekaR 3 жыл бұрын
Sameee I grew up in a mostly white country and as a little child people would call me Pocahontas, I thought it was a compliment until I read the real story and was heartbroken. I get uncomfortable whenever I think about it now...
@noface____
@noface____ 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from the Peruvian Amazon and I feel this exactly. As a little girl I loved Pocahontas but as I grew older and read the story (after moving to the US) it makes my stomach turn. It also doesn’t help that we (women from the Peruvian Amazon) are desired by het cis men for having “sangre caliente” (sexy/hot blood... as in “sexiness” is in our blood.)
@eebertdeebert
@eebertdeebert 3 жыл бұрын
Mina: "I can't think of another character with a red, yellow and blue colour scheme-" Superman and sailor moon: *Walks out of the door slowly*
@prettymuchdeadlol6048
@prettymuchdeadlol6048 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Helloknight
@Helloknight 3 жыл бұрын
wonder woman, mario, optimus prime, lightning mcqueen,the incredibles and sonic: am i a joke to you?
@by_elle7951
@by_elle7951 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Aladdin’s real life version is more accurate then the animated version
@hoboerenisbestwifuinaot4927
@hoboerenisbestwifuinaot4927 3 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@erizxs
@erizxs 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed ✋🏻
@daisydeaton2679
@daisydeaton2679 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@misscellaneous6741
@misscellaneous6741 2 жыл бұрын
It’s quite the opposite actually. The live action had strong Indian elements whereas the animated movie was strictly Middle Eastern
@madhurimak564
@madhurimak564 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm, I wouldn't say so. They had very glaring issues with accuracy-for example, no Indian girl EVER would wear a dress like that to her wedding, if it's white, it always atleast has a red or green border. And who kisses in Indian weddings that openly?? Her dresses were such a disappointment too. You might feel like I'm overreacting but really, can't Indian girls get some representation that isn't mishmashed with other cultures? India has the second largest population in the world and the majority are Hindus, so why isn't there a princess with a bindi in Disney? Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to gripe about this issue, I'm resigned to it anyway, and it's nice that Muslims and Christians girls are getting their representation on Disney, I'm happy for them (💛)but I wish I had some too. Anyway,i really got off track, there. My point was that the live action is even worse than the original in terms of accuracy. They didn't even bother to study accurate clothes, and just basically gave her ball gowns with "exotic" colours. Like, what south Asian culture involves trains in dresses? Check out cherry bepsi 's video on it, she explains it far better than I ever could. Have a great day :)
@jeniferpeiris6396
@jeniferpeiris6396 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you could be a Disney princess tbh
@deville6120
@deville6120 3 жыл бұрын
A cross between Mulan and Snow White
@bleepbloop644
@bleepbloop644 3 жыл бұрын
EMMY d definitely snow white
@emilymulcahy
@emilymulcahy 3 жыл бұрын
Disney princesses have eyebrows
@jesuusch
@jesuusch 3 жыл бұрын
emily mulcahy have you seen Snow White?
@jeniferpeiris6396
@jeniferpeiris6396 3 жыл бұрын
emily mulcahy Disney princesses can have any eyebrows they want
@intern_dana
@intern_dana 3 жыл бұрын
as a history and fashion nerd, i feel this so, *so* hard. but as an animator, im getting carpal tunnel just imagining drawing Belle's panniers during the dance sequence ahejdisks
@riahdoesyoutube22
@riahdoesyoutube22 Жыл бұрын
Fr I dropped animations like 5 months ago 😭💀
@senhoritajose
@senhoritajose 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid, I always HATED Pocahontas and still do. I’m indigenous and I still cannot believe Disney released this film. It is outright disrespectful
@victoriagarcia3032
@victoriagarcia3032 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr, like Jesus Christ. Why did she have to be so sexual. (I'm indigenous too)
@konanxhidan3202
@konanxhidan3202 3 жыл бұрын
I always loved Pocahontas. She was always my favourite Disney character. Pocahontas was very wise, smart and incredible brave. But the story was terrible and nothing more than a fanfiction. Disney, a company so popular, made a terrible mistake by romanticizing the tragic story of a real heroine. Imagine if Ghibli could have made a movie about Pocahontas, they would have gave her justice.
@pietracassolrigatti
@pietracassolrigatti 2 жыл бұрын
I`ve been binge-watching your videos and I have to say: I love your approach to fashion (and also history, society, and power). I'm so glad I found your channel!
@theakaialator
@theakaialator 3 жыл бұрын
Me being a Native American I find Pocahontas kind of upsetting to history.
@kelsey2333
@kelsey2333 3 жыл бұрын
Right. I'm white and I hate how movies (especially old westerns) have native American people as savages and villains. Its terrible
@theakaialator
@theakaialator 3 жыл бұрын
Kelsey 23 it really is. Native Americans weren’t the bad guys.
@someonecalledmaya9985
@someonecalledmaya9985 3 жыл бұрын
i remember i loved the we are all the same message but the movie is problematic considering the history of pocahontas that i really can’t watch it the same.
@noorykorky5056
@noorykorky5056 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree!
@peacelovetv95
@peacelovetv95 3 жыл бұрын
i absolutely loathe the portrayal of history, especially the ending. the way it's just like "the murderous colonizers and native people protecting themselves are conveyed as equally bad, and ultimately it was just one really bad guy and then the other colonizers just went home and everyone lived happily ever after the end"
@kishinumaayumi
@kishinumaayumi 3 жыл бұрын
I hated Jasmine's clothing, honestly. As a muslim woman when I found out she was meant to be muslim it left a sour taste in my mouth.. not to mention her clothing didn't scream "princess" at all. Hell they didn't even do anything that showed arabian ties with the textiles which is a huge part or arabian clothing. No patterns, even the colour seemed off and they wouldn't even give her a little beaded see through veil? I also just don't like how sexualised she was
@Maryam-qx9kp
@Maryam-qx9kp 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree, but i think the thing that got most on my nerves was the fact that Jasmine's clothing (and everyone else's clothing) looked more South Asian/Indian. The story takes place in the Middle East, yet their clothing look nothing Middle Eastern!??
@duaakhan4383
@duaakhan4383 3 жыл бұрын
I so agree! I remember watching the movie as a kid and being soo confused.
@biancat7761
@biancat7761 3 жыл бұрын
Well when I was a kid, I just thought she was middle eastern so I identified with her (Maltese) and I loved she was sassy and a bit more sexy. I loved it,
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 3 жыл бұрын
As I kid I was like “Jasmines weird lol” or “wears tHe ClOtheS” Now I get what my ‘kid self’ meant- I think I tried to say revealing but course I didn’t know what that was, but ye that’s my story-
@cursedcancersurvivor
@cursedcancersurvivor 3 жыл бұрын
Hey it's a movie... Calm the fuck down.
@catalinaarias5303
@catalinaarias5303 3 жыл бұрын
Your makeup it’s sooo cool. Heck, your whole aesthetic it’s perfect ✨
@oh.no.its.sydney5341
@oh.no.its.sydney5341 3 жыл бұрын
lol i’m obsessed with you now. i’ve watched two videos and i’m in love. your makeup, your hair, your accuracy, your vibe, it’s great.
@sophiajovanovic4012
@sophiajovanovic4012 3 жыл бұрын
P L E A S E do historical accuracy of historical american girl dolls
@Abcdefghijajajaja
@Abcdefghijajajaja 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@fionamaccrimmon7973
@fionamaccrimmon7973 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@bellabyers2929
@bellabyers2929 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS
@saf8514
@saf8514 3 жыл бұрын
I totally get what ur saying about Jasmine, but as an Arab women myself, I can tell u I most certainly wore shiny baggy pants like she did in the movie. they were tight on the ankles, and baggy on the legs. I never watched Aladdin as a kid but I can see where they got a couple aspects of the fashion, although I totally agree it is way over sexualized, and modernized. I think they did ok on the earrings though. I'm not middle eastern so ik the fashion is different there but there r definitely overlaps, and I feel as though the pants r one of them. (I'm Algerian)
@gremlita
@gremlita 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The pants are definitely the most “accurate” aspect. I guess what I meant was that women living in the Arabian Peninsula in the 9th century would look considerably different from Jasmine haha. Thank you for your perspective 💜
@saf8514
@saf8514 3 жыл бұрын
@@gremlita yes I totally agree, loved the video btw it was really well done
@frannyc7248
@frannyc7248 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Jasmine other clothing in the movie. like the one she was wearing, when they were announcing her fiance Aladdin to her people.
@frannyc7248
@frannyc7248 3 жыл бұрын
@@gremlita What do you think about Jasmine other clothing in the movie. like the one she was wearing, when they were announcing her fiance Aladdin to her people.
@yeaaahnop3287
@yeaaahnop3287 3 жыл бұрын
@@frannyc7248 it's still not that accurate 😂 but at least they covered her waist lol, even when I was a child I felt weird watching Aladdin because Jasmine looked like a stripper 😱 so I didn't even complete it, tbh even as a child I felt offended and like they were mocking us by making her a stripper.
@agathacccc2710
@agathacccc2710 Ай бұрын
This was so interesting, I had a blast watching you explain the historical context of all these iconic dresses I grew up admiring as a kid!
@lexhdz5803
@lexhdz5803 3 жыл бұрын
your videos may not cure my depression but they sure make it easier to deal with. you give me faith in humanity and i learn a lot more from you than i do in most of my classes (and i'm majoring in philosophy). the fact that you rate based on historical accuracy not only shows that you really care about what you're doing professionally (as in, you gathered and researched all the info you could) but you also educate yourself in the issues and implications of all of this and you make a point to mention them and give facts about it and i love that honestly it feels amazing to know someone cares enough to do the research and learning about opressed people through opresses people's voices is, in my opinion, the best way to do it. anyway i sound like a white girl trying to praise herself but truly this video made me so happy thanks
@Melissa-cl2rf
@Melissa-cl2rf 3 жыл бұрын
"Westernization does not equate to feminism." YES. Also let's let it sink in that Mel Gibson a)voiced John Smith and b)said "she's a babe." About a teenaged cartoon character. In other news: great vid, and way to acknowledge your biases!
@kioku618
@kioku618 3 жыл бұрын
In the movie she was 19 if that helps at all. I know historically she was younger.
@clem269
@clem269 3 жыл бұрын
@@kioku618 he was 38 at the time. thats still creepy to say that about a 19 year old.
@Melissa-cl2rf
@Melissa-cl2rf 3 жыл бұрын
@@kioku618 You have a good point. I thought a bit more, and I guess my main issue with Gibson's comment wasn't the age gap. It was his reduction of the character to a sexual object and nothing else. It's a sum-up of the character... w/o acknowledging any actual CHARACTER traits her appearance may reveal. Sigh. At least, according to Mina, that means the animators achieved the "sexy" look they were going for :/ I also thought his role of John Smith, the Misogynistic Colonizer, was very on the nose. Mel Gibson's behavior towards anyone NOT just like him is painful. I'm kinda morbidly fascinated with which public figures get "cancelled," for how long, and which get "forgiven." Check out his history of crappy life choices and worldviews: variety.com/2020/film/news/mel-gibson-controversies-career-1234696080/#article-comments
@hexmaniacgabby5160
@hexmaniacgabby5160 3 жыл бұрын
@@kioku618 *trigger warning* He's a creep period don't forget he wished someone to get sexually assaulted
@fmamamaba1460
@fmamamaba1460 3 жыл бұрын
J Do can you explain what you mean by ‘’woke buzzword crowd’’?
@yourlocalplaguedoctor7023
@yourlocalplaguedoctor7023 3 жыл бұрын
I remember in 1st-2nd grade I dressed up as Jasmine for Halloween and it was a two piece. My mom wanted me to wear a white shirt underneath, but I didn't want to because it would "ruin the costume" or something. Now that I'm 16, I understand why she wanted me to. I understand that for marketing or whatever, Jasmine was a popular character, but WHY would you sell two pieces to young children?
@akashajones6079
@akashajones6079 3 жыл бұрын
...Children wear two piece swimwear showing stomach. I'm not sure why a childs stomach should offend anyone.. wtf
@Fifi-jb3yx
@Fifi-jb3yx 3 жыл бұрын
@@akashajones6079 yes but this specific 2 piece is mimicing a highly sexualised character
@marshmallow927
@marshmallow927 3 жыл бұрын
@@akashajones6079 but that is *swim wear* we are talking about a costume marketed towards literal CHILDREN who may be 9 years old.
@Doggygal612
@Doggygal612 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you unintentionally are so on brand for this video. Looking like Snow White and dressed like Ariel. You look great! ❤️
@amanidjinni
@amanidjinni 3 жыл бұрын
so... there's actually a reason for the blue-vs-pink argument over Aurora's dress. way back when, pink was considered the masculine color for kids' clothes (red = strength, and pink is "light red") and blue was more feminine (something something Virgin Mary....) but the clothing industry was flipping that, about when Sleeping Beauty was coming out.... so the fairies' argument over the color of her dress was actually Disney poking fun at societal standards, and then-pop-culture issues and femininity ideals. I wouldn't have expected that from them, but there it is!
@kassandratorres1463
@kassandratorres1463 3 жыл бұрын
After reading the comments. I'm guessing I was the only girl who thought Ariel's pink dress looked cute on her.
@shi_.
@shi_. 3 жыл бұрын
the dress did look cute, but now that I think about it, it really didn't do much for her hair
@heathersaxton8118
@heathersaxton8118 3 жыл бұрын
No I loved the dress even if it’s not that memorable. She only wore it for a little n it looked really cute
@GrayeIra
@GrayeIra 3 жыл бұрын
I like the dress.
@mpvf0
@mpvf0 3 жыл бұрын
I love it too! I love the red and pink combo, it's very lovecore and Valentine's Day is my favorite holiday anyways
@ayanaowens5495
@ayanaowens5495 3 жыл бұрын
I love snow white dress is so beautiful cute and pretty !😇😊👸💖💖💛
@toqa6735
@toqa6735 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Arab and a feminist but I've hated (Yasmine) Jasmin so much in my childhood and honestly till now, she was supposed to represent us middle eastern girls but they sexualized her and chose a belly dancer clothes that are the opposite of my culture.
@samaraisnt
@samaraisnt 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's not even the opposite of culture they literally took the most sexualized part of the culture then bastardized it to fit Western ideals/views of Arabs or brown people. Imo it's not just belly dancer clothes, it's an idealized harem outfit. It's like they wanted to do "French couture" and they literally went to the STREETS and modeled the clothes after prostitutes. The disrespect is so infuriating.
@bruhhhhh1666
@bruhhhhh1666 3 жыл бұрын
bruh not even women in harem would wear something like this,,, why they couldn’t give her pre-islamic persian/arab dress if they’re so scared to give her hijab/veil
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@samaraisnt I mean, modern French haute couture is not far from achieving that style.
@bruhhhhh1666
@bruhhhhh1666 3 жыл бұрын
@My name is Dannye i mean, if they had one particular culture and not a mix of three different cultures, then it would be easy to say how she supposed to look like. in persia, arab caliphate and during the muslim rule in india in one particular century and year all this three countries had their own fashion.
@ananyavallurupalli673
@ananyavallurupalli673 3 жыл бұрын
@My name is Dannye firstly, im hindu, have you ever seen a picture of a hindu goddess? Obviously not, they wear sarees. Not belly tops. We know she’s not Hindu because the sultan mentions Allah, so they’re Muslim. As for your second comment, do about 2 minutes of research. If Aladdin took place in the 9th century then she would most definitely not be wearing that. Search up ‘9th century Indian clothes’ or ‘9th century Persian clothes’ it’s not accurate. Besides no one is saying that dressing like a belly dancer is wrong, but most muslims don’t wear such revealing clothing for religious reasons. Please do your research.
@Dianimations_
@Dianimations_ 2 жыл бұрын
Well, a lot of unnecessary hate comments here for the princesses. I can't really comments much on the fashion as you are the expert here. But as an animator, I can say that a lot of your notes wouldn't work because the animation process would be a living hell. Of course, they could have taken some of your notes into consideration, but putting in mind when those were made and what knowledge they had at the tip of their fingers also plays a part. That being said, lovely video good job :)
@spacey-sam
@spacey-sam 3 жыл бұрын
“Does it hurt the story to make the clothes more historically accurate?” (16:29) No! But you know what it does hurt? Merchandizing! And TBH that’s alllll the higher ups care about when it comes to the Princesses’ fashion choices, it’s “can we sell these to little girls and their parents” :D
@K_saha
@K_saha 3 жыл бұрын
Also the ANIMATORS(and colour theory)! Animation is hard, and is hard to do right, people have to draw these dresses by hand over and over. I am not talking about the dresses of Jasmine & Pocahontas (that's a different can of worms), but the others. It's easier to render multiple details in 3d animation but please do know that while doing 2d(also somewhat applies to 3d) you cannot and should not over-detail the design.
@officialnezquick
@officialnezquick 3 жыл бұрын
Girl you are not alone I have always hated Ariel’s pink dress why her dress looks like that is beyond me 😬
@sighcantthinkofaname
@sighcantthinkofaname 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a preschooler I wanted her to be in the sparkly dress more! it's so much better
@charchica_711
@charchica_711 3 жыл бұрын
Even though Ariel's pink dress is horrible, it accurately reflects her character because she doesn't fit into the "human world" as well as the fact that she only had a small amount of time to get ready.
@missimperfectlyfine7
@missimperfectlyfine7 3 жыл бұрын
ik
@julianabeesly8070
@julianabeesly8070 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that everyone hates it is funny to me it has always been one of my favorites
@breezechen7149
@breezechen7149 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianabeesly8070 Same!! Its my favorite disney princess dress 😂 it feels so good to see another fan as well!!
@juliamaya3009
@juliamaya3009 3 жыл бұрын
I once heard that animators made Ariel’s dress pink and awkward on purpose to show how out of place she was. A fish out of water if you will
@kaltaje
@kaltaje 2 жыл бұрын
I liked this video straight away, purely for Ariel's dress burn and the recorder noise to match it. Too good. Also, the framing of this video (with the picture, dramatic bed frame, curtains and lamps in balance) is such a visually appealing setup. Love!
@anart008eng
@anart008eng 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video and I am slowly binge watching all your content and I just need to say that the shirt, the hair pieces, the lipstick, the hair... the whole thing is giving me life.
@leenal-anzy9119
@leenal-anzy9119 3 жыл бұрын
21:05 as a brown arab woman, that made me very happy Being independent doesn't mean following the west and abandoning your culture
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 3 жыл бұрын
Depends. If it's in an Arab country, you should totally embrace your culture. If it's in the West, you should accept the taboos/rules/laws of the country that hosts you.
@mvvx313
@mvvx313 3 жыл бұрын
@@_blank-_ we do accept they’re ideologies but that doesn’t mean we have to be like them
@Fifi-jb3yx
@Fifi-jb3yx 3 жыл бұрын
@@_blank-_ i'll embrace my culture no matter where I am thanks very much, if my culture breaks your taboos then that sounds like racism and xenophobia to me. Wish the west had the same attitude when it comes to invading and destroying our home countries.
@djklmnx
@djklmnx 3 жыл бұрын
@@_blank-_ say you are racist and leave I see you everywhere
@clips_a_la_menthe
@clips_a_la_menthe 3 жыл бұрын
What does « brown » mean? (I am sorry idk)
@Winterborne.
@Winterborne. 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the real pocahontas was a literal 11 year old makes her dress design even worse lol
@7bloemen
@7bloemen 3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad you mentioned the crime that is cinderella’s blue dress. The silver was gorgeous! It didn’t have to be changed to blue!
@90210bryan
@90210bryan 3 жыл бұрын
Your dress is sooo beautiful!
@urissaresto
@urissaresto 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Irene Bedard, the voice of Pocahontas, had spoken up to Disney about her appearance but was unfortunately unsuccessful in changing their minds.
@hat7475
@hat7475 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. How low could the producers get
@RariettyC
@RariettyC 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen so much Pocahontas concept art where she was dressed differently. I wouldn't be surprised if Irene Bedard was cast before the character design was completely finalized, and it's tragic that Disney wouldn't listen to one of the only contributors who was a Native American woman working on their movie about a Native American woman.
@DylanRomanov
@DylanRomanov 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought Pocahontas had one of the most beautiful faces , her dress is cute fashion wise but once I think about historical accuracy. It’s ridiculous and overly sexualized for no reason. I never cared for the movie when I was younger, I’d literally fall asleep as soon as John Smith showed up. Maybe one day we can get new stories that don’t white wash.
@camryngaines4024
@camryngaines4024 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Pocahontas a little girl in reality though? Shouldn’t that be a factor? I may be wrong and I’m open to being corrected. But I do know there are confusing versions of her history. But if she was actually a child, I think it’s a little gross that they sexualized her character so much. Even as an adult, but Disney did also change the original story of Cinderella drastically. It was originally a gory story.
@yanstein8464
@yanstein8464 3 жыл бұрын
disney's cinderella is based on the charles perrault's retelling of the story which is moderately tame compared to earlier versions most of the western fairytales are originally gory lol
@camryngaines4024
@camryngaines4024 3 жыл бұрын
yan stein ah, I was thinking about The Brother’s Grimm version
@bananabrain2996
@bananabrain2996 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah she was about 13. Don't want to get into details too much as it's a very tragic story that may upset some, but she was sexualized in real life too.
@XX-bf2tt
@XX-bf2tt 3 жыл бұрын
Camryn Gaines Her name was actually Matoaka, but Pocahontas was her nickname. She was 10 when the colonists arrived. The only reason they coexisted(loosely using that word) for a few years was because they made the Powhatan become their allies against the Spanish. She was about 15 or 16 when they kidnapped her. She had a husband and child at that this point from her village. They murdered her husband after letting them see each other one last time, and she never saw her child again. She was constantly raped. John Rolfe only married her for tribal alliance and tobacco curing techniques. He forced her to bare his child, then took both of them to England. She was a show pony for the elite, to show there was no hostility between the natives and colonist(HA). Once convinced the colonists continued to get their financial support. She was in good health supposed to be getting ready to head home. She died shortly after eating dinner with her husband John Rolfe and Captain John Argall(also the captain that kidnapped her and multiple people from her tribe). She was only 21.
@camryngaines4024
@camryngaines4024 3 жыл бұрын
Ws X wow, I have read a few things on her, but I never got this much insight. Thanks!!
@sylvan44
@sylvan44 3 жыл бұрын
this is the first video about disney princesses that hasn’t made me want to scream when it comes to Aladdin (I’m iranian) and Pocahontas. thank you for the respect and empathy you put into your analysis of those two movies specifically ❤️
@sushibeam2779
@sushibeam2779 3 жыл бұрын
This literally educated me, thank you so much!!!! I loved every bit of the video
@mimineko1019
@mimineko1019 3 жыл бұрын
The blue lighting in the ballroom scene became so iconic that everyone thought of the dress as blue 😭😂
@Bella-du4vb
@Bella-du4vb 3 жыл бұрын
disney marketed her dress as a pale blue not silver or white or even sky blue
@tlakiwi530
@tlakiwi530 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bella-du4vb they did that because they didnt want to make it seem like the marketing white wedding looking dresses to kids
@elizabethgammon8789
@elizabethgammon8789 3 жыл бұрын
Mina le: "Ariel's dress is ugly!" Also Mina le: *is wearing Ariel's dress*
@steffanysarabia63
@steffanysarabia63 3 жыл бұрын
Right!! Before i even clicked the vid, the thumbnail to me looked uncanny to ariels dress
@sophia.aquino.
@sophia.aquino. 2 жыл бұрын
Ariel's dress IS ugly. Mina can just rock anything
@kaesijoo444
@kaesijoo444 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophia.aquino. period
@beaner2539
@beaner2539 2 жыл бұрын
i thought her dress was super pretty!! idk i like the shiny and she looks really nice in light pinkシ
@beaner2539
@beaner2539 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophia.aquino. fr
@sarahv5869
@sarahv5869 2 жыл бұрын
This video is one of the jewels of KZfaq. I am a History student, 19 years old and Latina and I have always loved the Disney fantasy, obviously I am also aware of its hegemonic cultural position. This video meets all my interests and is only 26 minutes long. Thanks Mina. ❤
@feralpisces
@feralpisces 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video! It was very educational and im sure it was a lot of work, so thank you for taking the time to do all this research and sharing it with us!
@alinarose7453
@alinarose7453 3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the blue dress Ariel wears when she goes into town I don’t know how historically accurate it is but the colors and design fit way more with her red hair and personality and not to mention her behavior cause she is quite naive, bubbly, excited and is always ready to explore and having this toned more civilian dress just suits a lot more.
@CarlDillynson
@CarlDillynson 3 жыл бұрын
I mean really, who’s idea was it to put Ariel - this pale white girl with fire-engine red hair - in a blush pink dress? That combination doesn’t even sound good on paper, much less look good on screen.
@starthelotus3453
@starthelotus3453 3 жыл бұрын
A genius, because they knew it wouldn’t fit.
@ErieRosewood
@ErieRosewood 3 жыл бұрын
It was meant to show how she was new to the human world and didn't know how to dress well. That being said, its ugly as fuck
@LadyDragonbane
@LadyDragonbane 3 жыл бұрын
I personally never understood the hate the pink dress gets as I've always liked it on her
@ChestersonJack
@ChestersonJack 3 жыл бұрын
LadyDragonbane Same here
@julianabeesly8070
@julianabeesly8070 3 жыл бұрын
@@LadyDragonbane same here ive always thought it was nice
@lareisto481
@lareisto481 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I love how you brought your passion to something that influenced many of us as young children and were able to teach us something new!
@petra6147
@petra6147 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so well researched, and you spoke about the topic vert nicely, as if you were reading an essay. Good job, and I really liked the video, I watched the whole thing!
@Asummersdaydreamer14
@Asummersdaydreamer14 3 жыл бұрын
ModernGurlz sent me. Love your sleeves and appreciate your research/opinions!
@amoldytortilla
@amoldytortilla 3 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@flurryisland6882
@flurryisland6882 3 жыл бұрын
you should rate a movie called the snow queen it looks pretty historically accurate to me
@dirt203
@dirt203 3 жыл бұрын
HA I GAVE YOU 690 LIKES
@damarii.estradaa
@damarii.estradaa 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@thekoala2074
@thekoala2074 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the sleeves are reminiscent of older asian fashions so (if that's what you were going for) I appreciate the asian representation and how you incorporate it into out fits!
@lucyjarman8500
@lucyjarman8500 3 жыл бұрын
She is the only person I have ever seen pull of those thin eyebrows
@mila3493
@mila3493 3 жыл бұрын
no
@doodoodoodle
@doodoodoodle 3 жыл бұрын
I have a goth non binary buddy that looks pretty sick nasty with their thin line brows/lighting ziggys/ random shapes lol!! They have a super cool aesthetic I could never pull off. Some people can pull of anything and I'm jelly 😂
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 3 жыл бұрын
One Salty Beach o cool! And lol 🤣
@fmamamaba1460
@fmamamaba1460 3 жыл бұрын
mila yes❤️
@zinnia5659
@zinnia5659 3 жыл бұрын
Fact I didn't notice her eyebrows till now
@Shaz-oo8lq
@Shaz-oo8lq 2 жыл бұрын
i teared up a little at 21:10 not many youtubers mention this.
@CHLOE-ho6hw
@CHLOE-ho6hw 3 жыл бұрын
YOUR DRESS IS LITERALLY SO PRETTYHDHDB
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