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Wednesday's biggest problem is that it leans into modern tropes instead of subverting them. It should have gone, "Your father's a murderer!" "I know. They tell that story at every family gathering."

Something that was really annoying me was that Wednesday made it perfectly clear since day 1 that she is a violent and anti-social person but her classmates keep acting shocked when she treats them like garbage or will resort to violence first

I don't know who in that writing room had such severe mommy issues that they felt the need to give Wednesday and Morticia a bad relationship but I hope they go to therapy some day

She just doesn't feel like Wednesday. She feels like a goth girl who wants to be Wednesday.

as a teenager myself, it really bugged me that they referenced tiktok and other social media so much. I get that they were trying to make it seem ‘in touch’ with teens, but that’s going to become outdated really quickly.

this show fell into the trap of “teenager must hate their parents because they're teenagers” trope. i’m not an addams family fan but I can tell that one of the things that people love about this franchise is just how much the family loves one another. they love each other’s spookiness and darkness and support each other even when everyone else ostracizes them. i just didn’t like wednesday becoming essentially a pretentious brat who doesn’t like people (I do think she becomes less pretentious as the episodes go on, though). it was too generic and obvious of a path to take with her character. it’s like “girl dark, girl like death. girl don’t like people.”

They destroyed the original Addams values. One of the main thing about the characters is they’re not judgmental. You can be pastel dolled up lolita nd they’ll be like “ok you’re weird but you do you”. But in Wednesday she’s super judgmental nd she’s always casting this “im superior than you alll peasants” aura. Was pretty annoying.

I also feel like Wednesday was never meant to be attractive. As a character in every other adaptation she's creepy, or just average at best. The fact they cast her as this gorgeous girl who every boy falls in love with even though she's kind of a jerk, further proves my suspicion that this was all about the 🤑🤑

my whole issue with the show is how they turned THE Wednesday Addams into a detective solving a murder in the name of justice, it's so out of character. she was literally bragging about attempted murder in the first ep and then being all upset her father is a murderer and despising Tyler too like ?????? Jenna Ortega's performance definitely is the saving grace of this show.

I feel like not only they seemed afraid of making the show more campy, it feels like they were afraid of making it more macabre and sinister, like, Wednesday tortures her own brother for fuck's sake, why not show her being weird and borderline scary like in other adaptations? Netflix's Wednesday gives me Jughead's "I'm a weirdo" monologue from Riverdale vibes and it sucks

Super minor pet peeve but since I haven't seen anyone mention it I wanted to say the idea that a "scary movie" for Wednesday would be Legally Blonde just goes to show how flat and one-dimensional they made this character. She's been flanderized so much and manufactured to be hashtag not like other girls ™️ that anything pink revolts her and it's so ironic because Elle Woods and Wednesday are kindred spirits just with different aesthetics. The idea that Wednesday could watch Elle be assaulted and mistreated and still come up on top because she realized she never needed to prove anything to anyone and think of it as "torturous" because she likes the color pink and is girly just made me irrationally upset lol. But maybe it's just because I have a soft spot for that movie.

I noticed that something was wrong, I thought that the problem was Tim Burton's direction, but when I investigated I realized that the script was a disaster, it was written by Alfred Gough and Miles Millar, the same writers of Hannah Montana the movie and Herbie, they modified Tim Burton's original script because they considered it weird and creepy. Wednesday ended up being like any other teeanager show.

I find it weird how Wednesday would look down upon Gomez because of a possibility of him committing murder, when in fact she should've been excited or proud of him since they are The Addams family, we are talking about Wednesday a girl who would roleplay decapitation with dolls and even try to kill her infant brother along with Pugsley.

Jenna Ortega really played Wednesday so well but besides that this should’ve been a movie instead of a whole series in my opinion. I also didn’t like how they have Wednesday not have a good relationship with her mother because the whole purpose of the Adams Family is that they seem odd and liked unusual things but they all loved each other. I’m also tired of Netflix and all of these streaming apps rebooting old movies or making these wattpad type of shows/ movies like can we get something original and new?

Finally someone who says Wednesday is just another Riverdale. I felt the same when I saw the first episode and it was just a goth version of Riverdale.

Surprised you didn't mention this: the cut of Morticia's costumes? Very odd. I expect glamorous, plunging, made-for-her, long lines, but instead it felt like an H&M Halloween costume. And the makeup was an odd look as well, because if she's meant to be naturally pale, then the foundation should look like skin. And if she's not, and they want to make it appear as if she DOES apply base makeup, shouldn't it look like it was on purpose? It felt so dry and cakey for no reason, like they were trying to cover up signs of aging but they just made it look worse. Zeta-Jones can and has served so much harder. Them's my two cents.

It's so weird the way they did it, too, because in the jokes Wednesday is all about murder and mutilation/torture, but the second someone is actually murdered she's like "murder bad" (i.e. being upset about her father potentially killing someone)

My biggest problem was that they portrayed Wednesday's character as a quirky e-girl you find in tiktok, and don't get me started on the love triangle.

Another thing that upset me (that I’ve heard a lot of people mention) is Wednesday’s disdain towards her mother. I understand that teen girls often have problems with their parents but like…the whole point of the Addams family is that they subvert the nuclear family with their unapologetic bond and love for one another. The whole “I don’t want to be like my mom” thing was so bizarre. We don’t see any indication that Morticia is trying to push that so it’s fully fueled by some delusion by Wednesday that makes no sense. The show also tries to portray Wednesday as a feminist but just uses feminist buzzwords in the dialogue and then has Wednesday act with a lot of internalized misogyny to propel herself as “better” than the other female characters. Like when she called her black, frilly lace, turtle-necked dress for the Rave’n as catering to the male gaze-what the fuck?? I can’t imagine a world in which Wednesday thinks that being a homemaker is a bad thing when she has been raised by Gomez and Morticia. Like the Addams family is a matriarchal family, Morticia runs everything and has Gomez wrapped around her finger, she is in total control. I think I could forgive it more if we saw her actually grow and change. I know we get that tiny bit when we see Morticia threaten the mayor and Wednesday starts to see that there are different ways to be strong, but then they blatantly missed the opportunity for more growth when Wednesday watched Legally Blonde!!! Like it would have been such a good moment for Wednesday to further realize that feminine=\=bad, but they glossed over it. It’s so clear that the tv show went for the aesthetics of the Addams family without actually engaging with it. Wednesday is purely “not like other girls” from an aesthetic point of view, not a moral one. She hates the blonde (Amanda I think?) in the movie because she’s an elitist bitch, and is very closed minded, not because she’s a blonde girl who wears pink. The Addams family is an extremely open-minded family, so for Wednesday to have an opposite mindset in the tv show is crazy. It shows that the tv show wants to get “girlboss” points but not actually try to grow through its characters and I think that’s a very harmful narrative for young girls.

i was literally wondering why there was a romance too, i'm glad i'm not the only one AND THE WHOLE DEBBY RYAN SMILE WITH TYLER IM DEAD I KNEW SOMETHING FELT OFF

Her relationship with Morticia was just wrong. Yes, Wednesday is morbid and snarky, but her mother very much nurtured Wednesday’s overall attitude and the two never fought. It was all love between them at the end of the day, in their own way 🖤 Also, totally agree with you - don’t think Wednesday would have given a shit about her father being a potential murderer. It would have been a point of pride for her.

the biggest thing that irked me with this show was the family dinamics. Tim Burton is so hell-bent on making his main characters complete outsiders, utterly alone and detached from the world they live in, that he misses the ENTIRE point of the Addams family. We love the Addams family because they are outsiders together. The rest of the world might not get them, but their family is so supportive, so encouraging and caring of each others interests, even with the occasional murder and/or torture, that it doesn't matter what other people think. One of my favourite scenes of the The Addams Family movie is the theatre scene Wednesday and Pugsley perform: it's so gorey, but clearly took so much time and effort, so of course their family is impressed and cheer them on. Obviously they are the only ones who clap, but the kids don't care about other people's opinions, they value their family's above all. This feeling is so absent from the series it made me forget I was supossed to be watching an "Addams family" inspired show.

Tyler and Xavier suddenly liking wednesday for no reason felt so forced

I think that the show's biggest problem was that they decided to treat the Addams Family seriously, which just doesn't work. The TV series and movies implied that the Addams did a lot of horrible things and enjoyed horrible things, but since it was a comedy, we laughed it off. Also, it wasn't the main focus. There has always been a stark contrast between the dark and "wrong" yet loving and supportive Addams family and the supposedly "normal" families that were "normal" to the point of creepiness and only cared about looking good in society's eyes, not about their children's well-being. That was the point of the Addams Family.

The point of the Addams family is that they are the outcast and the weirdos. Their interactions with “normal” people is what makes them so funny. Putting Wednesday in a school with people who are also weirdos and different is just… so… what’s the point lol.

My main issue with the show was the love triangle, I just didn’t think Wednesday needed a love interest. She didn’t really like them, and they thought they were entitled to dates or being around her at all.

"going riverdale" is literally the most accurate description I've ever heard for what Wednesday did to Addams Family

I think it would have been better if Wednesdays' struggle with Nevermore should have been that she's normal in the context of a spooky monster school. Like, she tries to scare away fellow students away by discussing her macabre hobbies, and is utterly unprepared when they reveal that they share those hobbies and are excited to talk with her about them. That would have made things much funnier and also more emotionally resonant. I know I have struggled making friends as a teenager even when I shared interests with people. Also the main reason that the love interests do not work in this show is that they are not camp enough. I can't imagine them having funny interacts with the rest of the Addams family which means that it's obvious to me that they don't stand a chance of dating Wednesday. Xavier should have been more of a peacock and a drama queen, have him be a tortured artist who monologues about either his genius or worthlessness depending on the mood. Which would make him funny in contrast with Wednesday's deadpan personality. I would also have Wednesday give brutal but constructive criticisms to his artwork, and have him spend a large part of the series trying to create a work that fits her exacting standards. The reason Xavier would be attracted to Wednesday is that she challenges him to do better, and the reason why Wednesday would be attracted to Xavier is that he's really fun to torment (and coincidentally appreciates being tormented). Tyler should have had more Connecticut Clark energy. He should have seemingly been the most "normal normie" out there, almost uncomfortably plain and normal. This would thematically play very well with him being a Hyde because the original Jekyll and Hyde is a story about a man denying all the gross and uncomfortable parts of himself and hiding behind the mask of respectability. Wednesday would be interested in dating partially to Not Be Like Her Mom, as she sees Xavier as too similar to her Father. Writing Tyler in a way that he has chemistry with Wednesday beyond saying "do the Connecticut Clark meme" is actually hard, I'm drawing a blank on what the emotional draw of the pairing would be as a potential relationship.

The reason the Wednesday from The Addams family values works is because she's mean and rude towards unlikeable people, that's why we root for her when she lets the spoiled girl drown and when she burns down the whole thanksgiving play. But the Netflix's Wednesday is just horrible to everybody who happens to exist, it was fun when she almost killed her brother's bully because he's getting what he deserves, but after transferring to Nevermore she's terrible to Enid and uses everybody to get what she wants. I have absolutely no idea why Enid decided to go back to her room and be friends with her again. Honestly I would rather be friends with Bianca, she's gold.

i think the main problem i had with Wednesday’s character was that they leaned too much into the whole “girlboss” character with her being good at everything, her having a quip/snark for every answer, having two guys obsess over her, having powers. It’s interesting but it’s not Wednesday. What I enjoyed most about the older versions was Wednesday was just a weird girl with different interests, no powers, no superhuman talents, not a perfect person. She was only snarky when she needed to be, it wasn’t her whole personality. And she had a super healthy relationship with her parents which was cool because it was a subversion of the whole “angsty kid goes against her parents” genre we see time and time again. But they just removed all of that in this. Also, People didn’t just not like her cause shes mysterious or their jealous cause she’s interesting- they hated her, wanted her gone, eliminated, and/or her personality eradicated. Her fighting against those normative ideals being her campy self is what made her so endearing. A lot of the characters i feel were a little too off from what I feel what made them so interesting in the first place.

i'm mad at how much they changed the family dynamic in the new show. the addams family used to be weird and strange, but they were a very happy family. now they're still weird, but also broken. they've changed the happy family dynamic to an end goal rather than where the story starts. as a kid i loved how Gomez and Morticia were so supportive of their kids no matter what. That's not there any more :/

I didn't watch much of it, but thought Wednesday seemed more of a snob than a weird girl, especially towards Enid. She was so rude to her for no reason. I thought Wednesday was supposed to be potentially homicidal, but not a jerk who hated on someone just because they like colors and have a different personality.

They should have sent pugsley along with her. The brother/sister dynamic was great and it could have replaced the dumb love triangle no one but tik tok girls cared about.

"I feel like the original Addams wouldn't care about being murderers" THANK YOU! That bothered me so much while watching the series because they do kill MULTIPLE PEOPLE in the movies. After accidentally killing a stripper in Addams Family Values, Gomez literally laughs it off, exclaims "C'est la vie!" and everyone goes on with the bachelor party as if nothing happened. I just don't believe that Wednesday, a character that's presented to us in this very same story as someone who doesn't want 'attempted murder' in her record because "everyone would know I failed to get the job done", would care about murder at all.

I was honestly so disappointed I when Wednesday was sent to a "boarding school for outcasts". As you said, the main schtick of the Addams family is the contrast between their morbid nature and "normal" society so I had been really excited to see a show fucosed on Wednesday in a "normal" high school/boarding school 😢 If they really had to do that, they could've at least gone all the way with it instead of making a half-assed "gothic" high school setting that didn't really go anywhere.

I like Wednesday in moderation, which is why I liked Christina Ricci's Wednesday because she was a side character. Having her as the main character of an entire series felt overwhelming because honestly she's a very mean person and her constant snarky one-liners, while being true to her character, do become exhausting. And her meanness occasionally reminds me of some of the most arrogant and toxic people I've met so sometimes it's hard to root for her because I feel like I'm rooting for those people who made moments of my life miserable. Worse, I don't like that some of the people around me are trying to copy her attitude as if being mean is cool now. Wednesday has great qualities but it's sad that there are people who think her rudeness or meanness are the most aspirational.

Honestly, when Wednesday gets a special uniform granted from mum and dad privilege and NO ONE says anything ever about that, the tone for the show was very clear. I mean, Wednesday arrives at school among hundreds of people, has no obvious personality traits or powers apart being goth or treating everyone like shit and yet everyone around her will fall in love with her, hate her, want to be her friends. They even talk about her when she's not on screen. A lot. It's Sabrina Mary Sue Spellman meets a Harry Potter generic fanfic.

when you said "wednesday is removed from her family when the whole point of the addams family is that they're a family unit" I finally understood why the whole concept of the show never sat quite right with me!! when I first saw advertisements for the show I was like "oh okay, this could be interesting but idk..?" I always felt kind of iffy and that was exactly why. the addams family is the addams family for a reason. not just the addams lol

my issue was that every issue she was faced with got solved SO quickly. she’s kidnapped? oh don’t worry, she’s so much better than everyone else that she’s already broken out of the handcuffs. And they try to add an obstacle with a school lockdown but it doesn’t EVEN matter!!!

Referring to what was said at 22:57...Personally as a black girl, it was really nice to just watch a piece of media (especially fantasy) that doesn't talk about racism specifically to black people. Not to say it's not important or that it doesn't deserve any acknowledgement, but I'm just so tired of watching tv to take a break from the racism I see everyday and then seeing it on my screen as well when it doesn't need to apply. However, I do think it's a decent concept that deserved some consideration. And I feel that the mention of the colonization of indigenous peoples is necessary for Wednesday and her character.

I saw someone online say that Wednesday was basically an Addams Family modern AU fanfiction and I think that's the best way to describe this show

What put me off immediately was that the Addams’ crimes (murder, maiming etc) was treated so seriously with real consequences in the story. Maybe I’m so used to the 90s version just offhandedly dropping one liners of how they’ve committed crimes being played purely for laughs with no lasting impact (Debby:“Aren’t you a ladykiller?” Gomez: “No, I quit”) I felt like it added to the charm of making the family cooky. They were cartoon characters living in the real world who didn’t abide by its rules but in Wednesday they just seem like absurd people who still have to answer to the law; it just doesn’t feel right

I feel like in the original movie the key joke was that despite being so strange and having issues socializing with ordinary people, the Addams family did not have ANY family problems that normal families have. they love each other unconditionally. and in the Wednesday series, they portray these mother-daughter problems which just seem so untrue and made up when we compare them to the original plot. this ✨key joke✨ is not there and for me the huge reason why i miss the real addams family spirit... i mean - i don't even think morticia would force wednesday to go to that school against her will. so out of character

I am SO glad that you did this video! At least now I know that I'm not the only one who didn't like the new show. The only good thing in Wednesday was Jenna Ortega :// I think Wednesday Addams wouldn't solve all these murders and she probably wouldn't care about the boys. If they want to put love interest they need to base it on Joel from Addams Family Values (1993), but instead they did this love triangle that doesn't even make sense. I'm very disappointed in Addams Family representation, they also missed the whole point that Gomez and Morticia are good parents, they love their children and really care about them. Netflix ruined Morticia and added "family issues" just for money. The only "Addams" in this show was just the main character's surname. :/

What makes me sad is, that the show made the Addams Family has the normal teenager film problems. Like the mom wants her daughter to be that what she never could be, ect. But the Addams Family was so funny, because even though they were strange looking, they were a family that loved, cared and supported each other. And this is now gone

Basically, Wednesday was the ultimate fanfiction

I think the name 'Goody' was supposed to be a reference to Goody Osborne, AKA Sarah Osborne, one of the victims of the Salem Witch Trials. I understand the historical pet peeve tho! Family probably wouldn't refer to their own ancestor as 'Goody'. Loved your analysis.

3:08 Okay but Chaz was ICONIC for using an embalming table as a coffee table, what an absolute creature of a man, truly an inspiration for us all (it's me, i'm Us All)

something that irked me to my very soul in the series was how they tried to create tension between wednesday and her family when literally the whole point of the addams family is that they are a satire of the conventional nuclear family who kind of fake loves each other, so the addams family truly loves each other but it just appears in generally unconventional ways. i feel like its just such a betrayal of the characters and idk what’s worse if they didn’t know or just didn’t care, either way it’s simply tragic and i hope the writers get help soon +i love that someone is finally pointing out the deep flaws in this series i felt like i was going crazy for a bit with the way that everyone was praising it and she always explains things so eloquently too i feel like someone is finally putting my thoughts into words

Honestly I expected a plot in wich Wednesday fought to prove that his father WAS in fact a murderer. I mean... "who do you think my father is? of course he stabbed that man!!!"

I think the goth school being full of normies was a really weird choice

something that bothered me a lot is that her peers at nevermore thought she was a freak etc. (or at first at least) when you’d think bc they’re all monsters and whatever they wouldn’t be bothered by that it just confused me a little

I had a hard time with the Addams trying to be all *we are creepy and like murder, death, torture* and yet, there all so shocked when dad is arrested for murder. Mom is so ashamed of her past murder and what her children would think. Even though, she would, in my eyes, according to her character description, take pride in killing her stalker. Or Wednesday being like I like murder as long as it’s not *murder* It’s that they tried too hard to fit Wednesday into this mold of CW Nancy drew heroine while keeping her personality. They just don’t mesh and just makes them seem fake or trying too hard

What I really thought was weird about Enid is... how are they gonna compare her mom forcing her to wolf out to conversion therapy... which is bad. But then her wolfing out is a big triumphant moment?? Like what's the analogy here. I don't get it. It feels like a weird writing decision.

They did make multiple references to her Mexican heritage throughout the season, and when she is shown listening to music they use modern iterations of traditional songs including “La llorona”

I wanted to add, the principal had some strong Effie Trinket hunger games vibes and it was spot on. Loved it, and wardrobe definable played a part without being the same over the top.

Wednesday stares The guy: "YOU'RE SENDING MIXED MESSAGES" The poor romance made the show into a comedy. Aroace Wednesday is a total icon. Jenna didn't want a romance so the bad chemistry is hilarious Let's stop calling them love triangles when they aren't equal between all three characters. Two boys bothering a girl is a love corner

Strongly agree about the endless series of one-liners. It truly got exhausting. It felt like the writers were just trying to make every time she spoke memeable.

When Tyler and Xavier appeared, I knew they were gonna be unnecessary love interests. The kiss was so random too, I was shocked.

Wow they had all of this genius material to work with and they did THIS😭

I enjoyed the show for the most part, but once again film/tv writers prove that they just can’t write outcasts. Wednesday is “antisocial, morbid and fascinated with the grotesque, an outcast among outcasts”. And yet she’s insanely popular. Everyone knows who she is. People are fascinated by her, drawn to her. She has two love interests despite being aloof and unfriendly, one of which is the ex boyfriend of the most popular girl in school. People want to know her and be her friend even though she pushes them away constantly. She “accidentally” attends the big social event thanks to Thing’s machinations, and of course everyone wows over her dress and kooky dancing. As the series went on, I realised she reminded me of a PG friendly version of Effy Stonem from Skins - a loner, a bit odd and wild, but people think she’s mysterious and hot so they’re still drawn to her. Even Enid is basically Pandora. Wednesday is an outlier, sure. An outcast? No. No one treats her as less than equal. No one avoids her. Christina Ricci’s Wednesday was more convincingly despised and looked down upon by her peers. It didn’t make her any less awesome. I wish Hollywood writers could figure out how to make an actual outcast character and still make them likeable and relatable.

Even as someone that had little to no knowledge on Wednesday or the Addams family in general I felt that it was weird for a character like her to have a love interest, much less be involved a whole love triangle

If i had a nickel for every famous horror director that didn't do anything spectacular for a few yeara coming up back to relevancy with a half baked revival of a classic 60's horror sitcom this year. I would have 2 which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice

Out off all the problems Wednesday had my biggest issue was the lack of humor. Yes there's a few jokes but almost no situational humor like every previous version of the Addams had. Well I guess when Pugsley blew up the fish and Fester eating ketchup & Wednesday with peranah fish but that's all I can recall. As you called it "campeyness"

I never understood why Tyler or Xavier liked Wednesday. With Xavier I kinda came to the conclusion that his type was narcissistic women, because Bianca is sort of like that, but even so he seems to demand more respect for himself than what Wednesday ever gives him. And Tyler is just straight up insane. Plus i didn't really feel like Tyler and Wednesday had any chemistry. Tyler always looked confused or awkward and he was just so pushy about it. Either way I think we could've gone without the love story. Especially the part where it's reciprocated.

My main issue is that the show is just not weird or wacky enough. There are no fun hijinks that I associate with the Addams family. They really didn’t use the potential of the IP at all. Anything that happens is something you can find in any other generic supernatural teen drama. Also, it feels like we were told through dialogue way too often about how weird and macabre the Addams family is, but we seldom see them prove this. Same thing with the school. Why does a school of vampires and werewolves scream for their lives when it starts raining blood.

Totally agree with Mina here that the "school full of weirdos" was very much like any other high school that pressures its kids to fit in and that the juxtaposition of the Adams' in these suburban settings is what makes it so funny. I think what would have been really fun to see if it really was a school full of Wednesdays who are all dark and sarcastic and Wednesday having an existential crises that she isnt as original as she thought and to see her going through a weird experimental phase where she tries different styles to find out if she likes wearing black all the time becuase of her family or because of her own preferences. I think thats what really drives a lot of these coming of age stories where you can see the character doubt things they always held true about themselves and kind of fumble around to find out who they are. Especially as Mina mentions the Adams family is a unit and theyre actually a very supportive family so I can see that going from that to a new school where youre not as special as you were with your family could be really hard for her.

preachhh 👏🏻👏🏻 I think Jenna Ortega is the only reason the show is getting so much hype. she played the character very well so without her, it would’ve been a flopppp. everything else was a cliché.

What irked me about Weems is how she was actually completely unthreatening - when she told Wednesday she would never escape the therapist I was expecting to see some display of power or skill that would explain why she is the principal of this weird school, but she was just chatting away on the phone not even paying attention. Think about My Hero Academia: the principal is a mouse and gives the impression he isn't a threat, until you see him in action, then he becomes terrifying. They could have done so much more with her character, and they had a world-class actress on their hands.

The show was meh, but Ortega made the entire show. Her interpretation of Wednesday sealed the deal

I'm not really a big Addams family fan but I for sure realized that Wednesday is not really suited for a partner let alone have her in a love triangle moment She's the type of character that is inherently sinister n I get that they tried to make her a normal teen show mc moment with a love interest but THATS THE THING that's what makes her HER

I actually like the show, but at the same time I feel it may be more due to nostalgia for The Addam's Family, because I agree with so much that you said, like it overall just felt less camp, and inauthentic to what we know of the Addam's Family! And omg I'm glad you said something about them caring so much about being murderers! Like since when does the Aadams family care so much about being labled murderers?? Wednesday is constantly having one-liners about murder, but seems to abhor the idea of a murderer being amongst them!

23:18 Right at the start Wednesday goes like "oh noo it would suck to have attempted murder on the record, everyone would know I didn't finish the job" and then she got all upset about Gomez maybe killing someone I was like? What?

What made me even more mad is how they destroyed Morticia's and the rest of the family's personalities and relationship to each other. Morticia is supposed to be this dark, vampire-like lady that is both alluring and creepy, the 91's version of her was perfect to show that, meanwhile the the new one looks like a halloween costume with no effort. Her personality is so different as well, she was always a supportive mother, sure she liked the more dark gothic asthetic for her family but she wouldnt force any of her kids to be like that, if Wednesday said she wanted to be a pastel lolita type girl, she wouldnt be personally fond of it, but would still let her kid be herself as long as it made her happy. In the show, shes just an overbearing mom that is trying to force her kid to be her.

Wednesday had so much plot armor 🤣

You can be white and latina, those are two different things. Plus it annoyed me a little bit that the only way one can know Wednesday has a Latin background is mostly because of Gomez name which should have been the surname of the family.

I thought it was entertaining, but just not very original. The whole "school for weird kids with superpowers" has already been done so many times. Harry Potter, Monster High, Umbrella Academy, The X-men, etc etc. And the the romance angle was tropey: even though Wednesday is not nice to people and doesn't even seem interested in romance, but she's the main character so of course every boy instantly falls in love with her.

The movies were just so iconic that I thought the writers would atleast take notes from it. The light focusing on Morticia's eyes, the brother/sister dynamic between Wednesday and Pugsley, and notice how there were almost no fights between the family since they're so understanding of each other. Like Morticia literally finds out her two children is trying to kill their baby brother but she just assured them that no one was getting replaced. Where was that family dynamic in the series? The love interests are killing me too. There was little to no chemistry and both boys are too dramatic for my liking. I thought we would get someone like Joel from Addams Family Values. Devoted, has the same interests, and doesn't mind that Wednesday is too detached from everyone else. I remember there was a scene in the movie where Joel was showing the siblings his murderer card collection.

It felt like a disney show from the early 00's to be honest. I did love the aesthetics of it all though.

What i don’t think a lot of people get is the Addams family is supernaturally wealthy. Emphasis on supernatural AND wealthy. In Addams Family Values, Wednesday is the antagonist to the richest girl at the camp, not only because it’s amusing, but also because she knows she can’t be touched by anyone, possibly ever. Her family’s wealth alone is enough to cover her antics, which as an aside is a great commentary on western culture of today, but also just serves as a point to brush off antics like castrating a classmate via piranha and getting away with it, because they have their wealth thanks to the connection to the supernatural, mainly their ancestors.

My biggest gripe is that, to me, there's no reason for this show to be an Addams family show. There's not enough of a connection to justify it - take away the fact that she's from the Addams family and is just some goth girl with magic powers and nothing changes. It feels like someone had an idea for a fantasy mystery and they slapped the Addams Family stuff into it for marketing. EDIT: ah I'm at the part if the video where you mention that lol

the whole pilgrim world plot was wild because why would a black man willingly run that😭 also the plot hole of the pilgrim hating outcasts but then being brought back by witchcraft and then having powers 😭 like what were they thinking when they wrote that

My hot take is that the setting shouldn’t have been at a school full of monsters… what is this descendants?? How much creepier would it have been if they kept Wednesday at a normie school with the same premise of a murderer behind the scenes Another thing is Wednesday’s hatred towards her mother, The Addams family are ghoulish but are loving without a doubt Edit: One more thing, whats up with Morticia and Gomez being ashamed with their past? And why was Gomez all timid during his sword fight with Garrett? Gomez is like a professional with a sword yet he seemed incompetent

I don't often comment, and I'm late to the party, but this video is so good! I enjoy listening to TV commentaries in general, but this is a standout due to how well researched (about the lore, history, costumes etc.) it is. It was super interesting to learn things about the process and decisions made in production. Great job!

So Wednesday is not like other girls, so she's put in the Monster High for "not-like-others" people. But guess what! She has to be different and quirky here as well! And how is this possible that amongst sirens vampires and werewolves (btw the monster selection is so original) it's of course Wednesday that makes all those people talk about her and call her weird?? This makes no sense!

Its a writing problem... Jenna carried the show

I think that my main issue with the character is that she is mean, not even sharp witted or charmingly sarcastic, she’s just mean,rude, ungreatful,antagonistic,selfish and snobbish. She’s not a lovable rouge or quirky you just kind of want to give her a slap.

Something about your black kitty walking across the screen in the beginning was just absolutely perfect 😂

what i hated was how the boys expected wednesday to fall in love with them because they were in love with her, wednesday clearly was not interested in either

I'm so happy you brought up Wednesday's one-liners!!! They started to get annoying really fast and just felt like quirky "lol I hate people" quotes you'd find on pinterest. They're fine on their own, but that seemed like Wednesday's only source of comedy. I wanted to see her do something physically comedic and morbid like in the movies

Thank you so much. People have been calling me a hater and a gatekeeper for disliking this show, refreshing to see someone feels the same way. You have great taste 🖤

I’m so glad to hear someone else think this!! I think it would’ve been a good Netflix show if it didn’t have the Addams name attached to it. That just sets out an assumption and other pre existing works that all already form a story, which they weren’t able to match well

I hated the love triangle. The love angle in general. Episode 1 they establish that she is a sociopath with little remorse for violence, yet somehow all these dudes are fawning over her, even though she treats them like trash? Then the whole Scooby-Doo type mystery. Like, it she was a sociopath, why would she care about this murderous monster. It's like they couldn't decide who they wanted Wednesday to be

my biggest issue is with the fact that wednesday, regardless of where she is, is treated like she's the weirdest one there. This show would've done AMAZINGLY if they just set it at a normal boarding school, especially since the other characters' weirdness barely contributes to the storyline and two 'normies' end up being the antagonists.

this is an amazing commentary about the show, loved how u talked about almost everything from the history of the addams family to the styling choices all in one video and making really good points about things the should might’ve missed.

I just felt like they took away the essence of the Addams family. The Addams family was all about how they were the opposite of the tradicional American family who lives the American dream. It's two parents who are in love wich each other, who are good with their children, and do and talk about all things that are taboo Then in the series they made Wednesday have an extremely complicated relationship with her parents, with her hating them, made her be outraged at murder, made the parents hide the murder and many more things Instead of the original Addams family were that murder history would be told at family dinner, and that Wednesday, even tough she did express emotions, would still love and bond with her parents and brother in an "Addams way" we were given a Wednesday who doesn't like her parents, doesn't interact with her brother, hates everyone, not in an Addams kinda way but in a petty kind of way, and thinks murder is super horrible thing, even tho at the start of the series she was mad she wasn't successful killing those boys

About the romance, my friend and I came to the conclusion that both Xavier and Tyler are masochistic and actually want Wednesday to put them down, that is the only way it makes sense that they like her 😂

My issues with the show: 1- Addams Family is filled with strange people. Type of people that society never accepts. But their family dinamic is what should society obey. They love every member of family they are respectful. They always support their children and never forces them to do things they dont want to. So originally Morticia would be like "So my daughter doesnt wants to go to school. Its ok she can get education at home." For example in The Addams Family Values childrens wants to go to the summer camp. Gomez and Morticia finds it weird but they let them go. But in this adaptation relationship between Morticia and Wednesday is terribly written. 2- They made my boi Pugsley dirty. He isnt a poor boy who gets bullied. Cant live without his protective big sissy. NO! THATS NOT PUGSLEY! Pugsley is an Addams too. He is as cruel as rest of the family. Also he lives under same roof with Wednesday. Ten times worse than bullies. So he should know how to escape from a locker. Before Wednesday put piranas in pool he would bomb the bullies. 3- Love Triangle. No need to talk about it. İt was unnecesarry. 4- Why Addams Family feels guilty for killing a person? Killing is their normal. 5- Poor CGI. Everytime monster appears i laughed like "look at this dude" man. İs this supposed to be scary. Like monster chokes Wednesday and i laugh like tomorrow doesnt exists. Although series has a lot of issues i still like show. Cuz we got Enid, Bianca(i love her so much i can write an essay about her), Marilyn(Christina Ricci) and a lot of Addams Family and Literature references(Jekyll was my first literature crush) you can feel amount of the effort they put in this show. Also aesthetic is fascinating. Sorry for my bad english

looking at these comments, im so glad that im not the only one who disliked Wednesday. sure she was cool, but it was like she was a Mary Sue. I mean, she was unnecessarily snarky and rude to everyone and thought Bianca was prissy when she was probably the most prissy herself 💀 she threw off attempts to be friends with anyone but then later came back to them when she could use them, and that's not Wednesday. sure, she could throw a sassy comeback or two but that's only when said person was a bully first. she was still able to make friends and be a kind person despite her gothy differences or whatever. like, in the 1991 version, in Addams Family Values, she was able to befriend Joel, and all the other "outcasts" without being rude to them. The only person she was snarky to was Amanda and her friends because they were bitchy in the first place. Also, her love interests. Wednesday in the new series, was in a love triangle (corner. love quad, if you count enid) and that was right after she stated that she didnt want to be in a relationship. Christina Ricci herself even stated in the 90s that she didn't want Wednesday to be in a relationship because that would take the focus off her character. Sure, she had a thing for Joel (that was actually an investive and a relationship that felt real compared to her and Xavier or Tyler but that's another thing) but it wasnt the main point of her character. They didnt make it her entire personality, and at the end of the movie they weren't in an established relationship (though hinted at.) In the adaptation, her "relationship" with Tyler and Xavier was quite literally just using them when she needed them. Tyler was her Uber, and that was it. What the series Wednesday had in glamorous outfits and amazing acting thanks to Jenna Ortega, she lacked in character development which fell short compared to the 90s movies. Even at the end (spoiler alert) when most of her relationships fall apart because she keeps using people instead of actually putting effort into friendships, when she eventually gets sad that shes lonely, everyone comes back to her and she doesnt even say sorry 😭 she mutters out some bullshit youtuber apology, and everyone loves and reveres her again. I could've gotten behind her being an asshole and the beginning but she ends up an asshole at the end too. Another thing, why does she care sm about her father maybe murdering someone? In the 90s version they literally murdered like, 3 people and brushed it off. So idk why shes cares now, but you do you guys At the end of the day, I did enjoy the show, but it really does pale in comparison to the 90s version. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.