RatRig KillerBee Review Part 1

RatRig KillerBee Review Part 1 - 6 Months Later

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Күн бұрын

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After completing the KillerBee build and doing a lot of testing with various projects, it is time to do a detailed review. In this video, I go over all the options I chose and the modifications I made to the base machine. This should give you a good idea of what you might want in your KillerBee build. In the next part, I will then go into detail on the cutting performance with various materials, including some detailed metal testing.
Playlist with all my KillerBee videos: • RatRig KillerBee CNC
Links to things:
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KillerBee: www.ratrig.com/3d-printing-cn...
Closed Loop Steppers (2.2N): s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9xWN9z
2.2kw Spindle: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AdWGyP
1.5kw Spindle: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AFxQWj
NVEM Controller with MPG: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AL599H
Air Blast: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A96jlV
Descent Cheap Endmills: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9zp74F
Saunders Machine Works: saundersmachineworks.com
My motor adapter plate: www.thingiverse.com/thing:539...
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Support me (for free) while shopping online (affiliate links):
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Aliexpress: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/b3a0ISl6
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eBay.com: ebay.us/xd6vPa
eBay.de: ebay.us/AwHtLQ
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My links:
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Instagram: / darkartguitars
Website: www.darkartguitars.com
Thingiverse: www.thingiverse.com/DatulabTech
Github: github.com/datulab
E-Mail: guitar@darkartguitars.com
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00:00 Intro and Overview
01:03 Paying Bills
01:37 Machine Overview
09:00 Frame Improvements
12:41 Machine Bed / Fixture
15:08 Spindle Mount and Accessories
17:04 Electronics
19:57 Probing
20:54 Conclusion
22:55 Outro

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@luislanga 17 күн бұрын

I didn't realize how compact this machine was in your other videos! I thought it was in a much pricier tier from watching you work with it. I wish they were available where I live.

@ashir3730 2 жыл бұрын

I just can't believe someone like you lives in this world nice to see those incredible pixels.

@kristianhorsager2968 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love your videos! - i've been looking forward to this video in a long a time ;)

@graveurgraveur2691 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I just ordered the RatRig upgrade for my Ooznest Workbee.

@sacric1de 2 жыл бұрын

very informative, love your channel

@x_ma_ryu_x 10 ай бұрын

Great channel, great videos. thank you

@diogovalerio4064 2 жыл бұрын

AMAZING !

@rito147 2 жыл бұрын

Since you have already beefed up the center of the table, and you're not the biggest fan of how the t-track clamps were working, and you may want to run coolant in the future this is what I did on our machine. We have a techno cnc router, but I used 1/2" acrylic, drilled and tapped 1/4-20 holes every 3 inches of the table, and for two corners [let's say lower left and upper right] i spaced them an inch apart for a 7"square. (sorry for using the imperial system) works great for routing wood, holding clamps, and I've even had decent results cutting aluminum. The dream is to replace the acrylic hole bed with an aluminum one, but the acrylic was free and aluminum is a lot more expensive than free 😜

@lexverboom328 Жыл бұрын

Cool review! I was wondering what the z axis range/travel is on these? Can't find it anywhere

@crabsshed 2 жыл бұрын

Made a switch to uccnc some time ago and it's just great. Had a bunch of hobby controllers before and they were simply not good enough (for various reasons). This just works and has a ton of features, both hardware and software. Just a suggestion, but could you do a video about actual killerbee capabilities in various materials? I mean achievable material removal rates (feedrates, depth and width of cut)? Ratrig does not have many and on the other hand many people ask about this for example in their Facebook group. Would be also nice to be able to compare it to stock workbee (which still uses dated and weak design) and also competition like queenbee (both original from cnc3d or various versions from Chinese sellers).

@Jenus85 Жыл бұрын

Great review! Just one question... Where did you buy the T-slots and MDF strips?

@HearGear Жыл бұрын

Great review, its a lot better with Linear Rails like you have on this machine, but it is possible to cut aluminum with V Wheels to, even though its not as simple as with Rails. What do you think about the OpenBuild Lead 1010 ? i guess the V wheels are the only downside to it, only the 7 Gantry plates cost almost 100 Euros and the V Wheels with bearings about 100 Euros, that's 200 Euros to instead spend on Linear Rails to get a much better Lead 1010 machine. Thanks for a good review.. :D

@plundra 2 жыл бұрын

Excitingly awaiting my 1510 ordered a month ago. Hopefully not too wobbly :-) It'll be my first cnc ever, so went with their full kit (and duet controller). Seeing your mods and upgrades have been great though, just knowing what's possible and what might be good things to fix.

@nico9314 2 жыл бұрын

How are you liking the 1510? I'm about to order one for work but with these concerns I'm wondering if I should do the 1000x1000mm instead

@plundra 2 жыл бұрын

@@nico9314 Just got the kit last week. Have not had time to start building. Got PWM to analog converter from Amazon today (for spindle) and picked up MDF yesterday for table top. The Mesh Workbench I opted for is delayed until June so will have to fix something temporary for that too.

@Ale_Lab 2 жыл бұрын

I recently changed to UC300ETH. Really nice motor controller

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

Looks interesting, had not heard of it before. It is definitely quite a bit more expensive than the nvem (at least once you add a breakout board), but looks to be closer to the smoothstepper I'm using on my other cnc in terms of functionality. How is the documentation for it? As that really is what makes or breaks such a controller.

@Ale_Lab 2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkArtGuitars The board is made from the guy at cnc drive. They are really responsive and the mach3 plugin is stable. I had USS before and this one is better. Also more functionalities, including rigid tapping. Plus can always switch to UCCNC which is much better than Mach3. It also accepts the same macros. Regarding the probe, on Ali there are nice little ones and if you get a shorter stylus it should fit the RatRig perfectly.

@graveurgraveur2691 2 жыл бұрын

How do you lubricate your linear rails?

@elderlopescosta449 Жыл бұрын

Excelente trabalho!!! A máquina ficou bonita e eficiente com essa idéia da mesa de trabalho. O painel de controle está equipado com um bom conjunto. Seria muito eficiente você criar Macros no Mach4 e projetar um magazine com troca automática de ferramentas para agilizar o processo de usinagem.

@nitacawo 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I currently have an openbuild c-beam machine and thinking to upgrade. This one seems far more rigid is it true ? Can you apply like 5-10 kg pressure on a spindle in various directions and show the amount of flex like you showed it on the x axis pushing on top ? Have you had any experience with c-beam configuration by any chance ? I mostly cut wood but on occasion want to cut aluminum. While c-beam is a great machine for wood but then it comes to aluminium while possible I find it way too flexy.

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

I am not familiar with that particular machine, but from what you've mentioned it is probably using v-wheels for the motion instead of linear rails. If the metal structure itself is descently sturdy, you might consider upgrading it with linear rails, they can be had quite cheaply from aliexpress. Or if the machine is similar to the queen bee, RatRig also sells an upgrade kit to get the killerbee features on a machine that was using v-rollers.

@maximilianmuller9118 2 жыл бұрын

Did you look into linear rail protection ("Faltenbalg")?

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

I have considered it. There isn't quite enough room to fit it without loosing any travel, so I haven't done it yet. I might add some chip shields to the Y axis though as the rails there do get hit quite a bit by chips.

@TheculinaryexchangeNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video! Curious if it costed a bundle to import it into Switzerland?

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

The import fees were around 150-200 if I remember correctly.

@TheculinaryexchangeNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkArtGuitars Appreciate the insight! Considering RatRig or Openbuilds and want to be very prepared for import/VAT fees. I thinkI will go with Ratrig as it seems just a bit more sturdy then Openbuilds. Hard to know really as there are no comparisons out there,. Anyway, Thanks again!

@henningkleinecke5199 2 жыл бұрын

Hallo Great videos about modifying your Bernardo Mill. I try to copy it for my Bernardo BF25pro. How much torque i need for the motors? regards and best wishes from Berlin Henning

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

I went way overkill with the Nema 34 motors I used, some high torque Nema 23 would probably be enough, possibly a small Nema 34 for the z axis, depending on how well supported it is.

@kristianhorsager2968 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently you can't get a custom size of 750 mm x 1500 mm :( .... To bad - It would have fit perfectly in my shop.

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

Guess they're too busy now, when I ordered mine I considered a custom size and they were open to do it for a minor fee and difference in material. But it also makes sense that they want to focus on catching up with the queue instead of doing custom stuff.

@trevorwalters7978 2 жыл бұрын

Can this machine 3d carve in wood.

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't done so myself, but it would be great for it.

@MrIzaks 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed your build and learnd a lot. thank you! are you familiar with QueenAnt Pro CNC? looks like main difference is ball screw and thicker plates kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9ShrZt5u7W0m3U.html . looks like similar prices but I think your build has larger work area for the same footprint. I have limited space... was wondering what is your first impression from the QueenAnt pro?

@DarkArtGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

It looks a bit beefier than the KillerBee, but since it still uses the same aluminum extrusions, they are the main source of any flex. Probably won't make a big difference which one you choose.

@MrIzaks 2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkArtGuitars thank you for the prompt reply. I might just go with the killerbee. thanks again for sharing.