Articuno JUST won a major tournament in Europe! Are there any other Gen 1 Pokemon that DIDN'T make the list in this video that you think can also make a comeback to the competitive scene?

Appreciate the kind comments about the editing, super excited to be able to work with the GOAT!

2:03 ah yes, sleep powder my favorite steel type move

Curiously, recently one guy broght significance to Articuno as a relevant meta threat. Freezai done a video about it. Articuno showed itself a incredible Blizzard spammer because of the release of Alolan Ninetales + Aurora Viel. The thing is Gen 9 broght the defense boost for ice pokemon in snowstorm, so it's bulkier than ever. Sheer Cold can bully any dondozo that appears.

The editing in this video is PEAK 😂

I can't wait for the Gen 2 video. Slowking has always been my favorite Pokémon, and somehow whenever the power creep tries to touch him my guy just keeps getting a small boost and blitzed past it. In Gen 5 he and Slowbro got Regenerator, in gen 8 he got a whole new cousin from Galar, and in Gen 9 when almost every Psychic-Type lose Teleport (even Slowbro, poor guy), my guy gets a brand new signature move that is even better than Teleport.

It's great to see how all these old pokemon are still viable. But there's one point I disagree on: Regional forms. Alona Ninetails isn't Ninetails and Hisui Arcanine isn't Arcanine. Don't get me wrong, I like these variants as much as the next guy, but they have different typing and potentially different movesets and abilities. At its core, those are different pokemon.

I appreciate that you pointed out that neutralizing gas fits weezing thematically. I think that's just as important as making changes that balance things competitively!

Its worth remembering that in gen 1, Mewtwo had a base stat total of 744. Only 7 pokemon have had a higher bst; Ultra Necrozma with 754, Primal Groudon and Kyogre with 770, Mega Rayquaza and Mega Mewtwo X and Y with 780, and finally Eternamax Eternatus with 1125. Even after its loss of 64 points in Sp Def Mewtwo was at the top until Arceus.

I feel like your last statement shows just how power crept Pokémon is, when Pokémon such as Mew, a mythical Pokémon with a BST of 600 are now considered "Mediocre" in terms of almost all aspects except for the part where it can learn every TM in game is ridiculous to think about, so much so especially with stuff like Smogon's tiering that it feels like eventually by like gen 11-12 we'll see all time ubers like Kyoger, Giratina, and Zacian show up in the OU tier somehow.

Honestly not sure if regional formes should count, but I guess they do share the name.

I swear this was a moxie thumbnail LOL

No, the notoriously weakest pokemon are gen 2 mons.

I've always thought that Mew needed Protean; it's niche is that it's flexible and its lore is that it's the originator of all Pokemon. It learns Transform, even! Protean or something similar would be *perfect* for the little guy. (Mewtwo, on the other hand, should get an offense-boosting ability. Since the thing that made is scary in Gen 1 was all the Amnesia sweeping, which if it had a mix of Simple and Clear Body? Stats go up twice, and can't be brought back down. Perfect for Nasty Plot or Calm Mind.)

Thanks for sharing the best Pokemon videos on YT. I love this channel

Great video! The editing was awesome and content was super informative.

great video ! I really like these historical perspectives from your channel

Worth mentioning that Ditto gets a _double_ attack boost against Zacian (and similar for Zamazenta). A Smogon original meta where Pokemon lose their generation number in every base stat might be interesting.

I like how Chansey is "Safari Zone Escapee" 🤣🤣 so true. Great vid

I respect the hell outta Raichu for saving my ass in Gen 8 restricted formats. Unironically a great support during that gen due to Regieleki being everywhere

12:00 Talking about Shuckle - I am totally stocked for it's Kalosian (or any future regional) evolution. Just so we can put eviolite on the base form. Especially, if they would revitalise it with a new ability akin to Girafarig line.

The Frozen Abamasnow edit was clean af. Well done

That new Ability idea on Hitmonchan has a lot of potential. Maybe an upcoming video?

"unlike jumpluff" ah yes the go to sun sweeper jumpluff is the curve on which we rate sun sweepers

he's back and with some amazing edits!

Absolutely love your editing 7:54 *THERE GOES MY HERO*

I've been using Venusaur, Raichu, Gyarados, Clefable/Clefairy, Magneton, Dragonite, Chansey, Slowbro, Articuno and Arcanine since I started playing and I've never put them away. Others too probably but those are who remain as my most used still in the current gen 😅 my all time favorite pokemon outside of battle is Nidorina. I do love Gen 1 but I'm not a genwunner by any means. GameFreak just had a blast with that first round of mons and it set the tone for the rest that have followed with do many classic designs and design elements.

Mewtwo will always have JAA and Baz Anderson's Regional Win in Ultra Series at least. But the fact I had to cherry pick to find them proves your point. Poor guy needs a buff. Enjoyable watch, keep up the content Ray.

Ray upload day is good day. Loving the content, delivery, and editing! Looking forward to the upcoming sleepyboi video!

Informative and memed up! I'm impressed

Super interesting video Ray, thanks!

I would love to see a video going in-depth on Gyarados’ history from you

I love that you are making content this good. Kudos to your team and to you.

Legit came to compliment the editing, saw multiple other comments on it, and still felt like I need to compliment it! It was so funny without distracting from the topic.

I never expected Muk to be one of my favorite mons these days but here we are. It puts in work for me in competitive. Such an underrated OG

mew had a special place for me with the only pokemon next to ditto that can use transform. it was awesome to use that in alola times to steal buffs and heal back to full with a z move. ohh and from gen one cloyster was also a thing, but dunno if anything changes so far that he is playable.

love the editing of the video..

Reworking abilities and moves are definitely a way to counter power creep for older pokemon. Imagine, for instance, Magma Armor making pokemon immune to ice type moves. Camerupt and Magcargo would instantly get its own niche. Other currently useless abilities that a rework could give pokemon a niche: Damp (affects and counters terrain somehow), Illuminate (powers up allies fairy type moves and accuracy), Run Away (adds to damaging priority moves the property of U-turn of switching out), Rattle (Maximizes speed and lowers damage from received dark, bug and ghost type moves, if the target is hit by one), Filter and Solid Rock (reduces by half the damage received, instead of only 25%), Rain Dish and Ice Body (recovers more HP and also raises defense/special defense while active), Leaf Guard (does practically everthing support imaginable to allies and itself while sunny, from reducing damage like friend guard, to protecting from stats, added effects, mental status, priority moves, redirection, etc), Overcoat: (protects againist flinches and defense/sp. defense drops) Pressure: (doubles the PP reduced from PP reducing moves like Spite, makes the Imprison move get +1 priority, and doubles the effect of status stat reducing moves applied in an opponent like Leer, Screech, Eerie's Impulse and so on. All affected moves would get perfect accuracy too. Surpasses Clear Body) Unnerve: cancels opponent's Intimidate, Dark Aura, Fairy Aura, and "ruin" abilities while the pokemon with Unnerve is in play Early Bird: gives priority +1 to status moves that affect only the user or only the user and its allies

The Hitmonchan ability theory craft at the end was a really cool idea. Give the Hitmons all unique fighting style based abilities. Maybe even introduce two new Hitmon's for the other two special based stat distibutions as well, to "complete" the lines (ie. if sp.def or sp.att are greater than a certain number and/or EV maxed out Tyrogue evolves into those forms). Hitmonchan: "Bob and Weave"; If This pokemon attacks first with a "punch" move, redirect any attack this turn to it's ally. Hitmonlee: "Extended Impact"; Kicking moves force the target to swap out if they fall under half health. Hitmontop: "Rotational Entry"; Removes all entry hazards and/or terrain on switch in. New Forms and their abilities: Hitmonyama (based on Yoshiro Akiyama, like how Hariyama is, and the Sp.Def evolution), a Judo based Hitmon: "Debilitating Throws"; 'Throw" moves lock the opponent from switching the following turn. Hitmonzen; (based on meditation, name change can be on a famous fighter that turned to being a scholar or monk, Sp.Att); "Meditative Conditioning"; Contact moves against the pokemon have a 10%-20% chance of missing, rolled independently from normal accuracy checks.

Ditto and Wheezing have been my favorite Pokemon and seeing them get love in the Meta is really great to see.

Not even 5 mins in and this video is amazing!!! Top tier editing

Can Blastoise work If you do Shell smash and water spoat or am I thinking very wrong?

I want Parasect to get the Anihilape treatment. A bug ghost evolution with an upgraded base state total of 495 with 50 added to HP 10 to special defense and 30 to attack. Maybe even 485 with taking 10 away from speed. Allowing it to speed tie Torkoal.

Wolfey was the one to make people realize the power of wheezing

The wolfed shade, lmao. I live for this rivalry.

Your editing style is amazing.

Fitting that the Smogon logo is the posterboy of OU.

Great video Mr Rizz, keep making content 😊

I used to love using weezing in the first pokemon stadium. He wasn't good but they actually animated him to where if you used fireblast, fire would come out of both mouths

creeper sound scared the shit out of me good job lmao

Love the quality content

Ray Rizzo! Boosting the alg

Well with megas back for next Legends game and likely next generation - we can assume they gonna bring more gen 1 mons back into meta. I feel like gimmicks should also be talked, because at the end of the day, they will come back sooner or later - especially if they are fan favourite. Like we are definitely keeping Tera typings at least every few gens (BW3, if that happens, definitely will have that). And Megas may hopefully stay with us this time.

weezing has always been good, run it with assault vest, sludge bomb, flamethrower, thunderbolt, and clear smog. it can hit hard and is a decent stat buff killer.

I dont even like Arcanine but I find myself using Arcanine several times in various VGC format. Its bulky with good attack and decent bulk. Also extreme speed is a great priority move. I believe Arcanine will stay relevant in competitive for many years to comes. Especially now with its new Hisuian form.

Editing is awesome

Mew's niche could easily be upgraded from "can learn every TM" to "Can learn every* move" *pending balance

Gyatados/magi carp have always been my favorite Pokémon. Not only powerful, but i like the idea that inside every magicarp is the potential to become a gyarados.

2:15 where is the boxing clip from?

When the video starts with pokemon mystery dungeon music you just know its going to be great.

Isn’t it awesome how our childhood favorites can still dominate in battle against the new Pokémon? I love blending my team with these sorts of hidden surprises

Obviously you'd probably need to do more to make it viable but I think with how it's lore is, Hypno should absolutely get Follow Me As for other buffs, maybe give it a 10 point stat buff to its HP and Oblivious so it can be a redirector that can't be taunted

Venosaur has to be the most consistent starter pokémon in competitive.

It should be noted that canonically, most of the Legendary Pokemon aren't known to exist.... And Mewtwo should be as strong as a Peak Legendary Pokemon that is nerf'd (as it's stated in DPP & BDSP that Legendary Pokemon are often weaker when caught).... And to artificially create a Pokemon of that level is actually pretty damn impressive.... That also means that is canonically the highest level of power a trainer can actually use with the Pokemon (without magic).

Even if you just need a tank to help round out your team, taking Venusaur isn't a bad option. It can be slow enough to use under trick room or using your opponents sun setter to your advantage. A bulky Venusaur, with Black Sludge, a Sun Boost while carrying Sludge Bomb, Sleep Power, Leech Seed and Synthesis can still be a major threat or switch in on some powerful moves to eat them up.

As much as i love my OGs i'm just glad a handful are still relevant as is it is impossible to realy balance a game with so many options. Same issue with trading card games.

I honestly hope that Tera is here to stay indefinitely. Even with Megas coming in Legends ZA. It has so much potential to constantly shift the meta to at least some degree. Simply because new threats can surface throughout the year as the previous ones want for counters. Add new Abilities and Moves to older Pokémon and we might reach one of the most diverse fields yet. Yes, there'll always be ones that rise above the rest. But with the sheer amount of possible strategies and Tera enabling previously unthinkable options for them? It's that much more interesting.

That PMD music in the backround going hard

I know nothing of the competitive pokemon world, but I always hoped my boy Tentacruel was considered a hidden gem from gen1. I mean surprisingly one of the fastest watertypes, huge specdef (maybe helpful against the typically specatk elecs and psys), could even be bred to have mirrorcoat as a countermove and raindish to combo with blacksludge to make it really hard to kill. But I'm probably overestimating strats I relied on in X&Y for a 3v3 all-water pokemon team to real 1v1 or 2v2 competitive mechanics.

These videos are so much better than Wolfe's 3-hour video essays 😂

Isn’t First Impression the strongest priority move?

I love the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon music!

Hello Ray, I still have your Metagross! xD

How come we never see any neutralizing gas weezing and slaking combos? I'm just assuming it will get rid of truant so Slaking can attack every turn

thanks for the video

Full honesty, the Chansey game ending and revealing moxie as the player was the biggest mental flashbang Ive had in weeks

Childish glee at raichu doing well. One time I got a stuffed on from a claw machine, loved him ever since plus he gets to stay pretty fat

I feel it worth noting that Dragonite in Singles is a much different beast than in Doubles. To this day, Multiscale and its ability to set up while still being pretty chunky always make it an option worth considering.

I'm glad you brought this up. Seeing the abilities of Mewtwo and Lugia not to mention that stat spreads compared to newer legendaries leaves a lot to be said. Call it "gen 1 favoritism" but gen 1 and 2 do have the most mons needing help. Another thing that has bothered me for years since I learned it. Why do all the starters not have the same BST? Why is Venusaur at 525 while Charizard is 534, etc? All starters should just have the same bst. Their moves, abilities and stat spread already differ them as is.

Weezing gotta be the only Pokemon to ever gain Fairy typing and get WORSE.

If protean wasn’t nerfed as hard in gen 9 then mew having the pre gen 9 version of the ability would make absolute thematic sense to complement its ability to learn every tm and in its lore.

honestly, as a bit of a joke, my last "multiplayer" team included a Farfetch'd, and not the Galarien type lol but yah, it is sad that you dont see many Gen 1 pokemon in "serious" play anymore.... I think the only ones that are still popular "serious" picks for high tier play are Alakazam, Gengar, and Porygon-Z, though that could have changed since I last kept up with big time play

Mewtwo is basically outclassed by Calyrex in almost every way, so no one really uses it, whereas mons like weezing fill a specific and potentially powerful role that only they do. I think it’s all quite neat.

the goat!!! lets gooooooo :)

Weezing was great to use with Zoroark for me in Gen 5.

Weezing has always just been one of my dudes . He just so fun and has a great design.

My initial thoughts were that gen 1 mons that got powerful abilities would be the ones that survived power creep, and didn't consider regional forms at all. I've always considered them to be separate from the original 151.

the GOAT is back !

How Mew hasn't been turned into a Psychic Normal type is beyond me. It would give it 2x from Bug/Dark bug isn't common enough for it to be a problem. 1x to everything except for 0.5x from Psychic And 0x from Ghost Meanwhile Gurafarig, Farigiraf, Oranguru indeedee, and most interestingly MEOLETA have that typing. Mew is the original base Pokemon of all Pokemon it should be NORMAL. It's the most normal Pokemon genetically speaking. Not that it really matters since they don't want to add it to competitive Pokemon The ability to synchronize is really weird. I think it would be really cool if synchronize would actually change the spread of the base stats based on the opponent or a team Pokemon. Any ability for it to change base stats, or something similar to Arceus Element plates would be dope. Like an Attack plate making it focus its attack stats over defense etc. The ability to learn any TM would allow it to easily have a strong move against Dark. This would make Mew pretty busted, but it's friggin Mew! It should be busted.

I was waiting for the weezing part just to see Wolf's weezing

Weezings one my top 2 favourite Pokemon, so it getting a place here is 😌

In Gen6 they updated their stats. If they do it again and with new abilities and moves they can go OU as any other

I wonder wich one would be a competitive team with only 1 gen pkm

I almost wish pokemon would intentionally make legendaries broken in their debut generation and then nerf them afterwords. Like you could even make it an in universe canon part of the lore where the respective legendaries are stronger in their own region and don’t have as much power outside their home turf. Then just do some standardized buff/nerf when they are or aren’t in their debut regions and you’d be able to have new pokemon feel impactful when they come out, but could overall have the list of pokemon across generations not need to trend upwards in power.

Do alolan and new versions really count as gen 1s tho?

It's a shame they haven't given Muk access to Neutralizing Gas. While I know it has been a nice exclusive, the original Muk card from the Fossil set has the Pokémon Power (Abilities), Toxic Gas. This made all other Powers turn off, just like Neutralizing. I think it would be fitting for Muk's Sticky Hold and A. Muk's Gluttony to be replaced with Neutralizing Gas.

Thanks!

didn't zapdos won the 2023 world championships or 2nd place? might be in seniors I don't remember lol

Raichu just can’t wait until Miraidon is legal

I love that pokemon that came out like 10 years ago are here. That's the true Gen 1 Era..