Two interesting facts about this composition: Frank wrote this to challenge Terry Bozzio, and after a couple of weeks of practicing it, Bozzio played it for Frank and he replied, "Bozzio, you're a fucking genius!" Upon hearing this when it was released, Berklee student and Zappa fan, Steve Vai, transcribed The Black Page and mailed it to Frank, along with a cassette of his guitar playing. He transcribed this from listening to it on the record to prove to Frank that he could read music. Frank contacted Vai and told him to get his butt up to LA and audition for the band. Vai was too young for the road, so Frank hired him to transcribe his solos for a couple of years. That became The Frank Zappa Guitar Book. Two years later, Zappa took the 20-year-old Vai on the road and, sure enough, young inexperienced Stevie got dehydrated, fatigued and had a particularly interesting encounter with a groupie that turned into the song Stevie's Spanking. It all started with transcribing The Black Page.

So I have an interesting Zappa story to tell. 42-ish years ago I was pre-school age, and my older brother was in high school and big Zappa fan. For an art class project, he make a life sized Frank Zappa stuffed doll. I remember seeing pictures of me sitting on a couch with it next to me posed. After that year, at the end of a Zappa concert he went to, he threw it on stage and Frank held it up as expected. So life goes on, and my brother now teaches rock history classes at college, including a Zappa appreciation class. In doing so he met band members, and even had a trip out to "the vault". While there he told that whole story of the doll, totally assuming that right after the concert the doll was tossed away or some such, as you'd expect. Some time later, he was contacted by someone "you know that doll you talked about? Well it's still here actually". They had changed the clothes on it, but otherwise yes Frank had kept the doll in his vault that whole time. I could tell how much that meant to my brother, to know his idol kept his creation like that. I've always like Zappa's music, but that made me like him all the more.

I think now you get why "I have played in Frank Zappa's band" is such a badge of honor. Not because of the association with the name, but the skill it represents.

Doug: "This is not easy!" Frank from somewhere: "I know..." 😄

Mr. Zappa was basically a self taught composer/musician. The level of his genius is beyond words.

Zappa needs too be recognized as a brilliant composer which he was!

Honestly I don't mind you singing along as you sight-read, I find that fascinating. I have these albums, I can go listen to them any time. To watch you read through The Black Page in real time is extremely entertaining, so please feel free!

Fortunate enough to see Terry Bozzio + Chad Wackerman DUET the Black Page together in 2001 at the Montreal Drum Fest. It was amazing.

This is Pure Ear-Candy. Zappa was a genius!

Finally !! The Black Page is so Petrouchka in a dystopian world. It’s my favorite FZ composition and I have been listening to it like a mantra for 40 years.

My band mates and I sat with Ian Underwood to watch Frank, Terry, Steve Vai, Ruth, George, etc debut Black Page Part 1. I still can't believe we were so fortunate to be there that night, in addition to witnessing such an incredible piece performed live. You mentioned the Inca Roads review. We were at the first show at the Roxy where Frank said they were trying out something new that night, which was Inca Roads.

George Duke once said in an interview that rehearsing with Frank was way different than with other bands. George said normally it was; "see you next week" but not with Zappa. Rehearsing with Zappa meant 5 days a week from 9 to 5. Further on he said that he doesn't know how all the bandmembers managed it but it was by far the most complex music he played.

At the first rehearsal of Alexander Borodin's Symphony #3 in A Minor, most of the musicians had never seen a 5/8 meter. They couldn't get it at first. So the conductor told them to say "Rimsky-Korsakov, Rimsky-Korsakov" and that worked.

Black Page always makes me think of the "musical communication" scene in Close Encounters Of The Third Kind

Finally exposing this masterpiece!! and sooo maaannyy more from the greatest composer of all times. RIp dear Frank

You should watch the whole Zappa Plays Zappa concert. Bozzio does #1 and then Vai joins Dweezil for #2. The entire show will blow your mind and change your life.

Little known factoids: the melody for The Black Page was first written for Eddie Jobson to play on electric violin (you can still hear violin in the live mix); the chordal harmony was added much later for the 'Zappa in New York' recordings to be played by the SNL brass and the Brecker Bros, with Ruth Underwood adding marimba to the melody. But the original version was just violin, bass and drums written as a technical challenge for Zappa's only four-piece band - Zappa, Jobson, O'Hearn and Bozzio. Zappa never played the composition himself.

Zappa not only expected his band to play what was written... he also expected them to watch his hand signals... He may signal for individual members to play different time signatures, make 'peep' noise or scream. He may signal a style change like swing or Reggae (half time or double time depending on how many strands of hair he twisted) etc. He had some insanely talented musicians over the years!

"The cool thing about it is, it's so hard, it's difficult to see if they're actually doing it right" D. Helvering

So complex, so challenging, yet so beautiful. He really was one of a kind. Miss you Frank.

I'm absolutely positive - Frank would love this so much!

Now we're talking. I purchased the score from Frank when he was still with us from Barfko-Swill as a study when I was in college for music composition. I have never achieved his level of "statistical density," but absolutely adore his entire output. He did some very unique reinterpretations of this piece over the years. I love the "new age version" from "make a jazz noise here." Can't wait to see Doug's face when he hears this.

The band that played on the Zappa in New York album (source Wikipedia) F.Z - guitar, vocals, conducting Ray White - guitar and vocals Patrick O'Hearn - bass guitar, vocals Terry Bozzio - drums, vocals Eddie Jobson - keyboards, violin, vocals Ruth Underwood - percussion, synthesizer and various humanly impossible overdubs Lou Marini - alto sax, flute Mike Brecker - tenor sax, flute Ronnie Cuber - baritone sax, clarinet Randy Brecker - trumpet Tom Malone - trombone, trumpet, piccolo Don Pardo - sophisticated narration David Samuels - timpani, vibes John Bergamo - percussion overdubs Ed Mann - percussion overdubs Lou Anne Neill - osmotic harp overdub So yeah, some very high caliber musicians. You probably recognize few names from the SNL band that also performed in the Blues Brothers movie.

What amazes me the most is that behind the complexity there is a beautiful melody. If you repeat listen, in short time you will see yourself humming some passages. The 2021 Zappa documentary has Ruth Underwood playing it on piano, beautiful.

I met a bass player who had auditioned for him, and he said the entire audition was very professional. He sat down across from Frank at a music stand. He opened it up to Bartok and Frank basically said “ please play that backwards, transposed to D”

Interesting to note, what takes other people years at college to learn, Frank just taught himself at the library 🤷🏻‍♂️ That dude...

Few things match the excitement I get when I check my KZfaq feed and see Doug has put out another Zappa analysis video!

Interesting watching videos of Steve Vai talk about all the transcribing he did for Frank's music while Steve was still relatively young (17-18?)

Great work explaining the rhythm!!! In traditional Hindu music they use a method of counting beats called Konnakol. It is especially suitable for complex rhythmic patterns.

When you started demonstrating the 7 I knew right off the bat where I'd heard that before -- another Zappa composition, It's in the middle of the Duke of Prunes suite on Absolutely Free. It's amazing when you have no musical education you know what you're hearing but just can't put it into words :D

Not being a person who plays any instrument or can read music this was still fascinating. I know what i like though and Terry Bozzio is one of my favourite drummers. Love his playing on Punky's Whips, especially given he's also singing it.

Supposedly this took Bozzio a couple of weeks of casual practice to master, while Vinnie Colaiuta played it by sight!

Sooo sad that the "Duke Ellington" old style jazz part at the end was broken off. I just love that transition

FYI Zappa LOVED improvisation and spent much of the concert giving himself and his band time to improvise, but at certain times for solos.

Frank has a lot of wonderful spice in his music. It's been about 40 years since I first heard Frank on the Dr. Demento show as a 12 year old boy. Now at 52 he's still my absolute favorite musician. There is a lot that I respect about Frank but most of all I think it's his devotion to be himself and not give a rats ass about what other people thought about him or what he did.

Frank considered himself a composer first. That’s important to know. He spent his entire career working and writing so he could hear a full orchestra play his music, on his dime. He achieved that late in his career, while he was sick. So yes you are right, he took the approach of a classical composer. I write this before listening here. Have fun!

Post watch… in my opinion this is your best Zappa reaction yet, probably not to be topped. The request is perfect for that. Your insight was much more important here and I’m glad you offered it. That hasn’t been my reaction in other Zappa reactions, just being honest. But now I can see that you’re digging Zappa, and as weird as it might sound I get satisfaction from watching people become Zappa fans. Being a Zappa fan is like carrying around a beautiful secret that nobody wants to hear. Also, watching you read that music and hearing more about your career is impressive. Well done. Probably the best Zappa reaction I’ve seen yet, and trust me I’ve seen them all.

This one I have to see! I've known about The Black Page for years, but somehow have never managed to listen to it. Terry Bozzio even mentioned it in a drum clinic he did in Fort Lauderdale back in 1998. Terry's a great guy. Very down to earth. I hope to watch this tonight.

Black page(s) is amazing watching live. Especially with Terry "animal" Bozzio on his massive drum set, and of course rest of the band when they come in. A (live) video series well worth watching is "Zappa - a token of his extreme", not just for the excellent numbers but also to watch Frank control his band and how better be paying attention constantly!

Hey Doug! Thanks for this reaction video! Can i say that the level of excitement in your eyes when you listen to Zappa is on an other level than usually? It is a joy to be able to see you discovering this musical magician. Thank you for sharing this journey publicly. I'm sure that as a composer you will only have a lot of fun with Franks music. He truly was one of a kind, an expression too frequently used nowadays. Zappa cannot be compared to anything else, it doesn't fit into categories or genres. It is a genre in itself (if you want to stick to a concept of genres, that is. Something i don't like to do personally). Long live Zappa, long live Doug!

BP #1 begins sounding like a Thai Gamelan piece! Can not imagine counting this, much less sight reading it. To say he had fantastic musicians is a gross understatement. Can you imagine going to a tryout? His auditions were legendary. The video of his drummers convening for a discussion of working for Frank is so worth watching.

Doug....I really enjoyed watching you read the music as it played....I bought this album when I was 15 in 1976.....I was alone in my devotion to this wild man with the killer mustache....his music led me to Jean Luc Ponty...Patrick O'hearn....George Duke....sooooo many talented artists over these 40 odd years...outstanding reaction and I'm now subscribed 😁 Thanks again !!!

When you discover that Edgard Varese was one of Frank's favorite composers (if not his favorite), his compositional style and approach to music becomes much clearer. He was an effing genius composer. I still miss him being in our plane of existence ... but his music lives on.

PLEASE WATCH RUTH UNDERWOOD PERFORMING THIS ON THE PIANO FROM HIS MOVIE LAST YEAR. Sorry to shout, but she interprets the piece in a way that makes it Frank's finest composition instead of just a show-piece

I remember hearing Terry Bozzio saying that he added the HiHat to help him getting through the piece. So, originally it wasn't there. The melody is very nice, there is a piano version (Ruth is playing it ;) ) that reveals the beauty of it best. That is what I admire the most, complicated, yes, but also beautiful - happens a lot in Zappas music.

And they play it live from memory, with no notes in front of them. Yet another level of terror.

that was fun. thanks! #1 was Steve Vai's intro to FZ, the composer. i had a guitar teacher who told me that story and then loaned me his vinyl of the concert with sheet for The Black Page #1 (1987) and, i still hear layers and lessons listening. I also enjoy reactions to FZ. precision in time and the space it creates is brilliant.

The first time I heard this piece was in Make A Jazz Noise Here, still my favorite version of it.

Probably should be a masterpiece Friday selection, but I'll take it!! Have fun, Doug!!

Nice one Doug! BTW, do a search for "Vinnie Colaiuta Recalls Brutal Zappa Audition, Reveals How Much He Was Paid" to learn more about how Zappa auditioned people. Vinnie is the best drummer ever, IMHO.

Legend has it that transcribing this monster got Steve Vai his entrance to Zappa World.

Still one of the greatest things I’ve ever heard, and still brings me close to tears after all these years. God bless Frank Zappa. The King.

Ive always thought that this sounded like the soundtrack to a crazy dream.

I'm only a casual Zappa fan (if there is such a thing) but this is the best episode yet, Doug. Well done.

In my second year of high school music theory my instructor gave me a quadraphonic 8-track Frank Zappa's apostrophe album. My musical life was changed forever! So 1983 what's the year I graduated from the Beatles and Black Sabbath and made me a Frank Zappa fan 4life. Keep it up kind sir, love your Channel

King Crimson did something similar to Black Page, called Fracture. A guitarist spent 22 years learning to play this song it is so complex

The pedestrian hi-hat that you mentioned was not written by Zappa. It was added by Terry Bozzio, probably as an aid to keeping his place among all those tuples. Frank and Terry both liked it and Frank decided to keep it in. It's always been one of my favorite parts of the piece as it shows so clearly how the drum hits slide back and forth in amongst the straight beat. Pure genius all around! Praise should also be given to Ruth Underwood for her contribution on other percussion instruments.

That was the best evaluation of Frank I have heard. A shame others could not fathom it.

I've been digging the Black Page since it came out in the 80s. As a former drummer with nowhere near this kind of skill level, it's always amazed me to know there are people that are at that level. But I never thought of it as a piece Frank would use to separate the real deals from the imposters. Only a composer would figure that one out. Nice job

5, 7, and 9 stroke rolls were common rudiments for snare drum training, when i were a lad. They became inherent tools.

Doug, Frank is the the Mozart, Beethoven etc (pick your classical favorite ) composer of contemporary music in my opinion. He is a composer, conductor (what some of his videos conducting) accomplished guitar player with a gift for the obsurd in the rock era. Frank is THE most interesting and utterly unique musician that I've ever heard, and I'm glad your finding this out. Watch the Zappa documentary that was put out last year by Alex Winter ( Bill & Ted fame) and you'll see what I mean and love him even more. He was also an intellectual even though his lyrics and on stage antics would make you think otherwise. I don't like everything he's done but there is so much of it you'll always find something new and wonderful with him. I think over 30 years or so he put out like 60 or 70 studio records and 57 posthumous ones for a total of around 120, and that's not including the live ones. So you could listen all your life and probably not get to all of them. Keep up the great work and I'm telling you that your on the verge of being a Frank superfan because of your music background. Keep up the great work!

You are GREAT Doug, it’s really interesting and also a lot of fun to listen to your passionate analysis’s!👍🙂 And since I love the music of Mr. Zappa so much I strongly urge you to return to him ASAP!!!🤪

Been waiting for this one. Great episode! Ive listened to this track for over 40 years and I learned quite a bit from your explanations. Thank you!

Doug, what a masterclass this video has been. To hear you talk about the music is so rewarding and enlightening and was so interesting to understand your teaching principles. An absolute joy to view. All the best from Dave from the U.K. ✅✅

Doug, journey through this masterpiece with you was like riding a roller coaster in the amusement park. Thank you for this joyful experience, I haven't ride one before =)

Frank always had some of the greatest musicians to ever grace the planet. The Black Page was originally written for Terry Bozzio, as a drum solo. To me it's more of a drum composition. Don’t forget about the great Ruth Underwood on percussion.

You touched on something that Zappa said about having an ensemble play a melody that is made up of these type of nested tuplets. A melody of five notes in a measure followed by a melody of four and then later thirteen notes crammed in a measure of 4/4 followed by maybe eleven notes... Frank said that if you only have people play the melody without the "pedestrian" beat behind it (to ground it) you end up with what sounds like a rubatto section. So, he purposely put the 4/4 beat behind the melody to give the melody something to push and pull against. This is a VERY difficult piece to pull off! I have recorded quite a few Zappa pieces over the last 40 years and to pull off this piece I had to write out the notes in the sequencing software. This is how Zappa used his Synclavier in Page R. In around 1990 I started inputing The Black Page into a Synclavier (using Page R), but I found that my Opcode Studio Vision Pro was a bit easier to use. Once I had the melody put in it was relatively easy to play the chords and bass section behind it. Fun days!

Love your approach and enthusiasm Doug. Thanks.

It's great watching you listen to Zappa, the joy in your face! And I will keep suggesting Sonny Sharrock/ Last Exit for Weird Wednesday. It's Jazz like you never heard before.

Frank's main early influence was Edgar Varèse and Igor Stravinsky....I strongly suggest you listen to the album Orchestral Favorites....from a 53 years and counting long fan of Frankie Boy....

Learning so much listening to you teach rhythms and this is an amazing piece to work with. On his introductory speech during the live version on Zappa in New York (1979), Zappa says: “This song was originally constructed as a drum solo…. Now, after Terry learned how to play ‘The Black Page’ on the drum set, I figured, well, maybe it would be good for other instruments. So I wrote a melody that went along with the drum solo, and that turned into ‘The Black Page, Part 1, The Hard Version.’ Then I said, well, what about the other people in the world who might enjoy the melody of ‘The Black Page’ but couldn’t really approach its statistical density in its basic form? So, I went to work and constructed a little ditty which is now being set up for you with this little disco-type vamp…”

So glad you finally got to the Black Page! I have several comments: 1) To me the piece is very musical and beautiful even as complex as it is. I've seen comments from some of how it is random noise; but to me, I find it repeating in my head as I think about it later. A lot of Zappa's music is like that for me. 2) There is a KZfaq video "The Drummers of Frank Zappa" with Ralph Humphrey, Chester Tompson, Terry Bozzio, Chad Wakerman, and Ruth Underwood. In this video someone talks about how they would try to approximate some of the complex rhythms by using slightly different rhythm counting to make it easier to play. Ruth would call them out on it saying you are playing it like this, while actually is should be like this. So for at least some of the musicians (or most or all of them) they were playing exactly what was written, not an approximation. It's long (like 40 minutes" but really gives you an inside scoop to the drumming and rhythmic nature of Zappa's compositions. 3) Frank stated that Steve Vai was the most accurate in terms of getting the rhythms exactly right of all of his guitar players. In fact, Steve used to transcribe music for Frank, and he wrote a paper on how to play nested tuples. www.vai.com/tempo-mental/ Check it out! If you want to watch something funny, find the KZfaq video of Steve talking about the time he interviewed to be in the Zappa band! ("Well, I think that Linda Rondstat is looking for a guitar player!") Also there is a cool interview on KZfaq with Rick Beato and Steave Vai and they talk about Frank for quite a bit. Also long at about 40 minutes but also very interesting. 4) Another fun KZfaq video is Vinnie Colaiuta which includes talking abut his interview with Frank Zappa. They pulled out the Black Page sheet music and as they were placing the music on his stand to test his sight reading he was playing it with one hand. They quickly took it off realizing OK obviously you can play that but now try something else! There is another fun story somewhere about one of his drummers playing the black page with one hand while initially sight reading it and eating sushi with the other hand. I think it was Terry Bozio watching this in disbelief as it happened... Have you done "The Grand Wazoo" from the album of the same name? How about "Big Swifty" and "Waka Jawaka" from the "Waka Jawaka" album? Still want to hear you do a reaction to the Berklee School of Music Zappa Medley! Cheers! Regards! Thanks again!

Important to remember that FZ started as a drummer...

Thanks for tackling this Doug. Its fun to watch you so fully engaged in a piece. It requires all the braincells to be firing!

FINALLY - thank you! I've only been griping and hounding you for about a year

Always a pleasure to hear you speak and I appreciate your musical knowledge here too. I really enjoyed your explanation of the drills and exercises you teach at the very technical level.

Really enjoyable watch as usual!! Still hoping for some heavily composed Phish one of these days. One of the few bands that take a lot from FZ. Keep up the great work!

If you knew Frank's original influences, you wouldn't be surprised by his classical mind.

Thank you for this, what a treat!

That was really fun, I so appreciate the technical analysis. I've listened to many versions of The Black Page since it was released ( 40+ years !! ) but today I gained insight into it's meaning and purpose. Thanks Doug.

Somehow becomes an elegy in the Piano Version arranged and played by Ruth Underwood. My favorite version. I favor it.

Greetings Doug. As much as I love Frank Zappa and appreciate your reactions to his music, I'd like to introduce you to another form of music that I find captivating and encourage you to explore the group Return to Forever. A good first go would be the track "Duel of the Jester and the Tyrant" from their "Romantic Warrior" release. Musicians are: Chick Corea, Al Di Meola, Stanley Clarke and Lenny White. There are tons of great music for you to discover created by these excellent musicians.

So glad you got to this piece (both #1 & #2), not only an amazing test of musicianship for any performer as you explain, but also and amazing composition to listen to in it's own right. Loved watching your reactions as you travelled through the piece. Thanks Doug.

I love hearing you talk about the music Doug. Giving us insight on what we are listening and you present it in an understandable way. All the best!

Thank you for doing this song, it really takes me back. Great reaction. Check out Waka Jawaka when you get a chance, you'll love it.

Classifying Frank is really not possible, since he wrote in many genres. That being said, the first seven years of his career (beginning at 14, nevertheless), he was strictly a composer of instrumentals. He didn't get into a band or rock-oriented songs until twenty or so. Another amazing factoid is that he's self-taught, learning how to write and compose via "books at the library," as he was fond of saying. His ability to compose music for orchestra, understanding all those instruments well enough to write, is miraculous. Personally, I think you see the real Frank, Frank at his best and happiest at the Yellow Shark (Ensemble Modern) performance which you can find right here on KZfaq. Great stuff.

As John Cleese's French taunter would say 'It's vare naas!' Thank you!

Thanks for this reaction, I had a smile on my face throughout both pieces! It was definitely a fun one!

I got to see Frank live 5-6 times. Every time I walked out feeling like I had just heard a modern day Mozart.

Frank said his favorite composer was Harry Partch. Partch is a really interesting character. He was Hobo during the depression and built his own instruments from junk. Lot's of microtonal stuff.

I can never get over the art of sight-reading. From the early 1960s to the early 70s my life was Drum and Bugle Corps. At 9 years old I could play back and retain the 2nd soprano parts, 11 1/2 min. of music needed for field marching competition. After 2 seasons, I got into 2nd French horn. A French horn bugle uses the French horn mouthpiece and is used as an alto bugle. As styles change, the French horn was phased out in favor of mellophones. They have more bottom than a French horn with better carry. I took to it right away and in about a month I was asked by Ed Sudal, our brass instructor to take the mellophone solo in our concert formation. Thanks to Mr. Sudal and John Palitucci ( Now classical composer and conductor ) for their understanding, playing my parts back to me a phrase at a time so I could memorize them as I never learned to read music. I was also a fast learner on the drums, which caused some funny moments. The Monarchs, the corps I belonged to was hosting a winter Color Guard competition at the local High School. As host corps, our guard was to do an exhibition. A 3 man drum line supplied their beat. The tenor drummer and I were always being mistaken for twins, so when I found a free-standing mirror with no glass I dragged it back to our hall. I was known as a prankster so everyone watched me. Will, the drummer was inside so I went in. When we came out we were both wearing drummer's uniforms and carrying tenor drums. I adjusted my drum harness to mirror his and since I am naturally left-handed it was no problem playing left-hand lead. It was a short program so when our guard went out Will had already taught me his solo and the accent high-sticking that went with it. When the time came, someone slid the mirror to the edge of center court, Will stepped out of formation, I purposely started one step shorter to take Will's cue. We both hit our marks perfectly (when his left was down so was my right ). It went off to perfection and the drummer in the mirror even got mentioned in European drum corps newspapers. We could only do it in an exhibition because props were not allowed on the field during competition. It has all changed. We were all working-class kids. If someone couldn't do something (like reading music) they were never left behind.

I really enjoyed this and got a lot out of you following along. Singing out the notes and using the mouse. It was very helpful in bridging sight reading visuals to hearing the piece. Count out the rhythm was not only entertaining, but educational for me. Glad you do what you do, my good man. Looking forward to more!

My mind really strongly connects the feel of this piece to Stravinsky's Sacre du printemps, how the constantly changing time signatures and emphases build the wild unpredictable rhythm for the pagan ritual depicted in the suite. Also, the Stravinsky, too, is extremely meticulously scored, down to explicitly prescribing up- or downstroke for just about every note in the string section. I am too young to have seen it myself but I have heard of performances of it conducted by Stravinsky himself at a very old age, where he really only provided the metronome beats with his stick and expected the orchestra to fill in the rest from the score, because he had so elaborately written it out. Somehow there is a spiritual kinship to me between these to works. Anyone else feel that way?

I suggest a very large whisky for this one...

Wow! This my favorite reaction you’ve posted! As a musician, I totally dig the way you broke down subdivisions. Great to see a composer appreciate the brilliance of FZ!

Love how you break things down passionately into something more understandable. Thank you

Well, it's true that Frank Zappa wanted his music played as he had written it, but it's not true for all his pieces. He gave his musicians room to improvise in some songs, sometimes even lyrics (Ike Willis was his favorite in that respect). Some music, like King Kong, was actually made to give everyone in the band room to improvise. Zappa knew that to maintain discipline he had to give the musicians freedom too.

Can we just admit that Frank Zappa was a true musical genius? I truly hope that a 100 or so years from now (unless the world destroys itself before then) holds Zappa to the level of classical composers who are still admired. Is he even in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame? If he isn't, the fact that Eminem is more than likely going in this year is a true insult. Though I really do not consider Zappa rock but neither is Eminem. Then again how many bands who name Judas Priest as a major influence are in there but, Judas Priest isn't? 🤔

Thanks for doing this.. One of my Zappa faves!

I’ve been waiting for this!!