While I agree that the whole concept of racial "pride" is totally irrational, I'm not so much inclined to put "Black Pride" in the same category as "White Pride." To me, there's one key difference between them. White Pride = "WE BELONG ON TOP!" Black Pride = "WE REFUSE TO BE CONSIGNED TO THE VERY BOTTOM!"

LOL "My parents fucked, and now I'm black" hahaha Good stuff man! HUMAN POWER! THAT is the only race that matters!

Well, I'm short. Been messed with about it most of my life so I am trying to get a new Short Lives Matter thing going. But it's fallen short.

I care. I don't want that from a band I listen to, this hurts. I am Black, and I have been listening to them since the 90s.

Completely agree with you 100% I've been telling people for years that all of this "black/white pride" stuff needs to be abolished.

(Ethnic minority) Pride is not about boasting about the prowess of your racial background and its superiority over others. It is a response to institutionalized discrimination that has occurred in this land since - and before - its inception. Throughout the history of American soctiety, non-whites have been made to feel inferior to their white counterparts. "Pride" in your ethnicity is a response to that. When they have Gay Pride parades, it's not because they think their sexuality makes them better than straight people. It's simply a way for a community that has historically been on the receiving end of oppression to come together and refuse to accept anything less than being equals in society.

FYI.. I'm not into metal, but I undertand your passion..and that you're able to seperate the music from the creator. Yes, you can cry "racist" or "bigot" ..when it applies..and it looks like it applies. I'm gay and I have trouble shouting in public: "Gay Pride".. I half understand the reaosning behind it 30 years ago.. I don't see the need for it today. Rock on

So I watched a bunch of your videos now and I'm just gonna take this opportunity to say you're a really swell guy :D Keep rockin dude \m/

The thing I think Robb was trying to articulate in the differences between black pride and white pride is that when black pride became popular in the 1960's its agenda was to give black people equal rights and equal treatment. White white pride or white power it's always been an agenda of the belief that the white race is superior and they deserve privilege because of that. I agree with what you're saying that the belief that any race is superior is stupid. I just want to give you my take on the differences. Great video man. I definitely appreciated hearing your perspective.

Bro I respect Robb Flynn so much after this video. As a black person who started listening to rock and metal in high school, it was always difficult for me to find out where exactly I "fit in". I didn't fit with the black kids because i "act and talk white" and while I did fit in with the outcasts, losers and freaks, I got seriously harassed during a show by some racist assholes saying I don't belong here. The racism in the community is rampant and so it makes me happy to see such a response from the community saying this can't be tolerated.

The only race that matters is Human Race

just because you havent dealt with direct discrimination does not mean others haven't keep that in mind

The difference between the whole white power vs black power thing is there is something to have pride in being black, according to those I have talked to who identify with that slogan. While you may have had it pretty good, I know countless black people where I'm from who do not. And that is today, and people who are from this new generation. Not baby boomers or even Gen X's. While I am not saying that black power has not been used once for violent/destructive effect, it has roots in the fact that black people ARE oppressed a grand majority of the time, and is a slogan of empowerment within those circumstances. 99.5% of the time, it is something said to encourage peaceful resistance against racial discrimination, not something that is said to entice violence or hatred, as saying the white version of it is. That's what Robb Flynn was trying to say, and it is a statement based on fact, not opinion. I have talked to several Black Panther members myself, and they have been nothing but kind and straight forward with me, and I have even invited me to sit in on their meetings at my local college. They do not preach hatred against whites, they preach empowerment of those who are oppressed. Of course there are a minority who take it all too far and turn the black power thing into something destructive, but that is a ridiculously small minority compared to literally all of the white supremacists who undeniable ARE trying to be dick heads. I respect your perspective, and I'm not saying you should kiss Flynn's ass about this. You have your own experiences and your own point of view. But calling Robb Flynn stupid for doing something as kindhearted and truth based as what he did was a bit uncalled for. I don't even like Machinehead really, or even metal all that much to be honest. But I don't think you should have really shit on his move to make improvements to the music genre as a whole when it comes to accepting different people. A lot of this video is just gonna be pointed out by those Phil Anselmo fans, who will pick out a single person's experience, to discredit the experiences of countless others. I think your perspective of the black power thing is much too exclusive to your own personal experiences, and doesn't account for the countless experiences of countless others.

I don't think Rob was off base. He did say he was giving a history lesson.

"I don't need to be proud of the color of my skin because I was never taught to be ashamed of it." -White Guy You said yourself that you've never experienced racism. So, from other people's perspectives, black pride might actually matter. Just food for thought from another perspective.

I disapproved of Phil's bull shit and didn't like what Rob had to say either. Thank you for putting forth some views on equality.

Big Up for using a George Carlin quote.

im a life time Pantera, Down, etc fan... what Phil said is bullshit... people have said to me "why do you like Pantera? dont u know their racist..." to which i replied " none of their songs are that i can tell and I've never seen anything to proove racism..." well now I have... RIP Dimebag. and big ups to Rob for having the balls to bring this up. Just saw Machinehead for the firat time [finally] back in November and it was fucking amazing! wont miss em again. man did they rip LIVE. Long live Metal, down with racist BS!

Pride is the most horrible thing, it does not keep you warm at night, does not fill your stomach when hungry, does not shade you from the heat, does not cover you from the rain, all it does is keep you from what you need to survive.

Everyone should be proud of who they are and where they came from. I'm proud of my European heritage, you should be proud of your African heritage. It's not personal pride, but the sort of pride you might have in your kid or best friend who stood up to a bully or accomplished something great. Or in your grandfather who fought in WWII. It's pride in the sense that you're part of something great; being part of a particular bloodline, being made of the very same DNA as the vikings who explored North America for the first time hundreds of years ago. It gives me motivation to live up to my ancestors and make something of myself, continuing on the tradition of cultural progress. However, at no point does this necessitate looking down on or even hating others who are unlike me. Every culture has both light and dark spots in their history.

I'm just not able to distinguish music from the person that makes it... I just can't.

God Forbid's Gone Forever is one of the best metal albums of all time.

Man, you're more wise than most of thepeople I know. Sorry I am not English.,but I udnerstand it mostly.

dimebag and Vinnie Paul are the ones that made pantera what it was, not Phil

Bro's I'm not white I'm mexican. So when someone says white power it can be interpreted as racists towards myself also. It's good that Phil was called out but just because your not white, don't throw out all of your pantera cd's and shit yet off your ipod or whatever. It's about the music. I don't tolerate Phil's behavior regarding this but he deserves to be forgiven after his apology. Racism is wrong but I'm pretty sure that Phil is not really racist. I'm sure he has learned his lesson.

I've listened to Pantera since the early 90s and yeah, Phil has always had problems like booze and drugs or whatever, but i never noticed anything racist about him or the music. There are several vids about this so apparently it's true but i'm kind of surprised by it.

I am an advocate of NON-VIOLENT free speech. In other words, I would use the 2nd Amendment to protect anyone's 1st Amendment, even if I didn't agree with them; I believe one is able to do, and say, what they want as long as that action is not physically harassing or antagonizing anyone. If what the guy said is true, and they want to do it in their little collective circles, so be it. If it is okay to have some 'Black Power' concert in the middle of the Superbowl, I believe it should be okay to have a 'White Power' concert in the middle of where ever. And, to be frank, it really isn't 'racist' until we start thinking one race is superior to another. Of all the things we can change in life, race/ethnicity is not one of them. The more tolerant we become about racial language, the more tolerant we become as a culture. Pretty simple.

Many fine artistic works were done by really shitty people. It's just important to make a distinction between the art and the artist.

Interesting take. An argument I can't stand is the "Well, why can't WE be shitty, cause THOSE GUYS are shitty too" rationalization. One of the commenters below asks, "What about racism in rap music?" Yeah. What about it? The notion that Anselmo should be excused because Professor Griff or whoever is also a racist is absurd on the face of it.

When you were talking about Howard Jones, I immediately thought of the 80's pop singer. Nearly shit myself laughing of the thought of him yelling 'BLACK PRIDE.'

I've been into metal for a while and actually had no idea Phil was throwing up white power signs. Pantera is of course a classic band of American metal, but I've definitely been more on the side of the more contemporary bands in the genre. So apparently he apologized for the most recent incident but there was some some controversy apparently in 1995 where he was associated with white pride or something. Yeah, he's probably racist. No, you're not a SJW for calling him out on it. He should be called out on it. Totally reasonable. And yeah some people are like that and will continue to be like that. I think he knows that his beliefs are unacceptable and I'm sure he knows he's in the wrong. And like SBG was saying, he mostly keeps it to himself. So what do you you do? I think you just sort of break your silence and say, "Hey, Phil - STFU, stop being a racist prick" and move on. If it continues to be a problem, just let him alienate himself and don't support anything he's a part of.

Phil is a contradictory person, but he's not racist.

Calling Philip out on his crap wasn't exactly a surprise. It was warranted as well. The guy has said a lot of questionable thing in the past, so this past incident didn't really come as a surprise at all. I won't be wasting my time calling for the burning of Pantera records though, lol!

You know how they say: Love the art, hate the artist.

Its good to be proud of your heritage maybe not your skin color. Color doesn't matter.

I do the salute all of the time and really dumb racist jokes, and im black... So... Just thought i would point that out.

Cool Batman Beyond Sweatshirt.

there is pride in heritage which is way different than pride in skin color , I believe there's a difference a very big difference between the two

I'm half Black and white. I love metal music. I'm glad you spoke out on this man we don't need to emphasize our color to be proud to be a human or be negative to other people. I am glad people are finally calling this dude out on what he seems to do every show he is at. So good for Rob and good for you dude you have my respect on speaking about this stuff

I'm an old 80's and 90's speed metal head . I'm almost 49 now and listen to other things too but I still love Slayer , Overkill , Vio-Lence , Destruction , Celtic Frost , Candle Mass , Merciful Fate , ect . Cool to know your a fan :-)

I thought metal was more anti-Christian, pro-Satanism, more than racist. Or maybe that's exclusively black metal..

Good one mentioning George Carlin (RIP).

I don't think he's racist. It was just... Bantera.

You've hit the nail on the head. The whole thing about the pride, people should take pride in their own personal achievements rather than trying to take pride in something they were born with.

Phil can say what he want, but freedom of speech does not grant you freedom from criticism. I have never liked Phil and his views, but at the end of the day it's important to be able to separate the artist from the art. I still enjoy Pantera, not matter what spews from his mouth.

I really don't think it's an SJW thing to call out someone who is obviously a racist. Phil is a dick aside from the racist thing but I still listen to Pantera occasionally. Also, I know both conservative racists and open minded leftists that are into metal...liking the music has nothing to do with your politics or feelings about other races.

If you told me Denzel Washington hated white people or the same for Samuel L Jackson or Danny Glover even Eddie Murphy I would still love their work and everything they did

Your mind set is so elevated and it makes your videos fun to watch

Some Black Guy. Your Videos kick ass ..Keep on Keeping on

I think what you said was great. The only thing I kind of felt different on is. Pantera is 4 parts and Phil is just 1. Yea he's a kickass vocalist. But Dime shredding and Vinny on the double bass were just as if not more important. So I think we can't hold Pantera as a whole responsible for Phil.

im black and i listen to metal and most "rock" genres. I have white best friends. no racism. straight edge friends and stuff. positive guys from all colors.

Hey man thanks for speaking out I'm from Texas and a Mexican - American, I've bumped into bigots before though there is no excuse for what he said in perspective people should not open there drunk mouths when they stand on such a gifted platform as him we must all watch what we say because someone will think it's all right to act that way in the south we're really trying to put a stop to it . but again thanks for your voice long live metal!!

I'm a Bernie Sanders suppoter. I'm pro civial righs. And I'm a Pantera fan. How? Because you can't combine all of the band members into one politcal view.

The idea that oppression of minorities or racism is in the past is a fatal flaw with modern conversations about racism. If you haven't been discriminated against, you are either ridiculously lucky, don't live in the US, or are oblivious

the band is called Barely Alive I have 2 edits I did for them on my channel

Theres a grest doc "A Band called Death" A black punk/metal trio from detroit in the 70s. That were totally obscure until one of the guys family member found their old album and started rockin it without realizing who it was in the band. Bands were not visible much back then, you heard them, there were no vids.

it may be grand standing or something like that but generally when i find out a band member or a whole musical group is into some racist shit or has bigoted beliefs i stop listening to them, i guess on principle. I feel that I don't listen to them or buy their music that's less support i'm giving them. if the band gets rid of the f'd up member then sure i'll listen to them again. Am i a baby for doingthing/acting like that? You can call me what ever you want but that's what i believe. It's like when i found out Frank Sinatra was an asshole. yeah he's not making money anymore it but when ever i hear his voice i think of the accounts of women saying he abused them. Sometime i can separate the artist from their misdeeds other times i cannot.

I knew there was something great about you when you were talking..... and then when you mentioned George Carlin, I knew why! Subscribed :)

been loving all your videos

I agree completely. I was shocked when the frontman for Lost Prophets was outed as a pedophile. In fact, I learned about it in the most awkward situation possible. I worked at a Hastings store and was running the Lifestyles department (basically everything that isn't movies or books). So I had control over the music on my shift. So I put in Start Something, and the manager from video basically ran up to me and started yelling at me for playing the music of a pedophile. For a few days, I didn't play it again, but ultimately I came to the conclusion that it didn't matter to me. I played the band for their music and what it meant to me as one of the bands that helped me through middle school and early high school. You bet your ass that I will never deny, dissemble, or defend Ian, but that won't change my love of the band and the anger I feel on behalf of the other members that will forever be associated with that nutjob because of their working relationship.

Had to stop it at 1:25 . Wait, so people are being silent about Phil's supposed racism. What about the racist rap songs, against whites by black men? Is there not a lot of silence from the black community in not calling that kind of crap out? Because you and I both know, that kind of thing is MUCH MORE prevalent in rap than it is in metal. What about blacks not ever calling out these BlackLivesMatter folks and all of the hatred they spew? I never see black folks demonstrating against black lives matter. It's a two way street buddy.

Great video man. I agree let's keep all this nonsense neo-nazi BLM whatever issues away from metal. Saint Rob and meathead Phil should just focus making kick-ass music. Rob should seriously get over this and not make his lame white guilt songs.

I just watched the video of Phil and i admit it looks very bad but i look at lyrics like this and wonder how this guy could be racist. PANTERA LYRICS "Rise" We've got no time to lose Your news is old news Hate this, hate me, hate this Right approach for the wrong It's time to spread the word Let the voice be heard All of us, one of us, all of us Dominate and take the motherfucking world Mass prediction, unification Breathing life into our lungs EVERY creed and EVERY kind To give us depth for strength Taught when we're young to hate one another It's time to have a new reign of power Make pride universal so no one gives in Turn our backs on those who oppose Then when confronted we ask them the question What's wrong with their mind? What's wrong with your mind? [Chorus] It's time to RISE We've lived with past mistakes And we've lived with our own Forgive, forget forgive Be a man, not a child There are to tears for peace Of the common sympathies Educate, reinstate, educate A thing of past The trouble in the states It's time to rise

I honestly never thought of it as "why should you be proud of what you were given from day one" Honestly Metal fan or not People should really take the time to watch this video

If BP is ok what is wrong with WP?

well my opinion on this and I've said it b4 "insert race POWER" is dumb. Being proud of something you didn't achieve is pointless. I am a straight forward person, i dont like hypocrisy and double think.

My favourite music band is Amorphis, they are from Finland and songs are in English, they have songs of different sub-genre of metal. I recommend it to everyone. They are great

I was trying to brush away screws in your wardrobe for half a minute. XD

I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, the birthplace of Pantera. I love them, but it's common knowledge that Phil is a racist. I don't respect it. Plus he's garbage to fans. But aside from that, I love Pantera. Met Vinnie Paul a couple times. Nice guy. Dime passed away the night before my 20th birthday. I was crushed that night. Pantera, even with Phil's rhetoric is in my blood.

Pantera is still better than machine head despite phil.

Racism isn't exclusive to the metal community. You can argue that people who are racist will be drawn to the aggressive sound in metal. But people will be drawn to the sound for many different reasons. There's problems that need addressing within every community, great video!

I agree and I thought i was the only one, "I don't care what a musicians beliefs are, I only care about the music"

Totally agree with you man! .You'r the first US legit black guy that i ever hear that speaks about this issue without any taboos or any kind of complex I can't get it this whole thing about racism,specially in Usa ,bcz in the rest of the world there is not such perspective. btw check my channel

don't really listen to metal much anymore. prefer old school 2 tone ska music thesedays

Respect to a black man that trully isn't racist. There are many white and black artists that make passionate music but may be assholes in their personal life and their beliefs. Good man.

I'm a Metalhead myself and I think that you should just listen to the music regardless of what the band members stand for. Just keep your eyes open to their human side because we aren't perfect and you like the music keep listening to it, just remember that aren't realy the best people arround (if they aren't indeed good people)

I love Pantera in spite of Phil. He's always been a douchebag esp when it came to Dimebag.

I'm a metal head but gotta be honest....never dug Pantera. Just meh to me. I dont like King Diamond while i'm at it.

I really like this video because it sounds like Derrick is talking from his own experience on his former band

I'm black and I love rock n roll/metal because of this one man I'm not going to look at other rock bands like they are racist.

from what I've learned about the situation, sounds like he was being a smartass to a few hecklers in the crowd who continued to call him a racist from the beginning to the end of the show

Agreed, we don't choose the color of our birthday suit but we do choose the way we act.

Right with you there. No one should be ashamed of their skin colour. But it's not something to announce that you're proud of, the way you can be proud of an achievement.

I agree that having pride in something you inherited is ridiculous.

I just watched one of your other videos for the first time and I had a feeling you were a metal fan. Good deal, subscribed.

"My parents fucked, and now I'm black. I did nothing to achieve it. " Brilliant. Fan from Brazil.

If you don't mind, I'll try being the devil's advocate here on behalf of the metal fans who don't make a big deal out of Phil's racist gestures and comments. I believe that a lot of it stems from fandom (heavy metal fans, in my experience are a little more hardcore than fans of other genres of music). They don't just "listen" to metal and enjoy what they hear. They LIVE and breathe metal. The music isn't just some form of casual entertainment for a lot of them, it turns into a lifestyle that shapes their outlook on life in many respects. A person in that kind of mindset will more often exhibit difficulties in adopting a critical stance of the people they idolize (the metal bands). However, that's not my only explanation. The point I wanted to make first and foremost regarded the philosophy and culture in the heavy metal scene. Ever since it started, metal has in a large part been about provocation. It's pretty much anti-establishment to the core, and more and more extreme sub-genres of metal have evolved for the purpose of pushing boundaries in terms of sonic harmony, technicality AND themes and lyrical content. Most metal fans are aware of this. They expect it. That's why so many of them aren't particularly freaked out when metal bands make songs about murder, satanic ideals, sex and other stuff that is (or at least has been) considered taboo in the establishment. Indeed, this has even gone so far as trying to make reality of the lyrcis and themes (like the Black Metal scene in Norway where band hardcore band members even murdered eachother, committed suicide and burned actual churches citing satanic beliefs as their reason for doing it). So for better or for worse: Metal strives to be anti-establishment, and fans expect it to be and thus aren't as easily offended or freaked out by taboo topics as the general public. And I believe that might be a big reason why metal fans don't react very strongly to Phil's comments. Because as you may or may not agree on, racism, nazism and Nazi Germany have all been turned into the "boogeymen" of the modern, culture. Adolf Hitler basically fills the same spot that used to be reserved for Satan 50-60 years ago. And in large part because of social justice warriors trying to equate everything to racism, and all racism being equated to Nazi Germany. (We live in a society of Godwin's law where everything is being equated to and bottles down to Hitler) They're even going so far as portraying racism as some mystical "corrupting" force. As though you can become "racist" without being aware of it (which is ludicrous because racism is and as always been a set of conscious beliefs in theory regarding racial biology, and it's not something that you can get "infected" by unconsciously). So, Hitler has taken the place of Satan in the modern culture. Then naturally certain heavy metal artists will eventually conjure up the imagery of Hitler and racism to push boundaries and taboos, just like they did back when the general society was more spooked by Satan and satanic imagery. I believe that's one of the primary reasons why most metal fans and bands aren't very shocked by it. And I believe it's both a good and a bad thing. It's bad because I think Phil may be an actual racist (he genuinely believe in racist ideals) and the scene let's his ideals go almost unchallenged. But it's also a good thing because while racism is pretty backwards, it's also not the worst thing in the world. Stupid, yes but far from the "looming apocalypse" that SJW's and the establishment have spent years trying to portray racism as. And I think you can agree on this as well because while you, like any rational individual, thinks racism is stupid you still exhibit a pretty laidback attitude in regards to it. You (and me) are rather happy with calling Phil a dick for acring the way he does, and stupid for believing in what he believes in, and pretty much let the matter rest at that. Because we're not running around like paranoid sheep expecting Hitler to rise from the grave and establishing the Thirs Reich all over again just because Phil from Panthera said some racist shit, and neither does most heavy metal fans in general. Anyway, that's my take on it, based of course on personal interpretation from my years as a metal fan. You be the judge if you think it sounds reasonable or not.

"I read your eyes, your mind was made up. You took me for a fool. You used complexion of my skin for a counter racist tool. " look up the story behind the song 5 minutes alone.

You make an excellent point but it didn't seem to me Rob was defending "Black Power" per se, just putting the difference between "White Power" and "Black Power" into perspective. Fortunately we're reaching a time where that difference is getting smaller and smaller, but Rob himself may have grown up in different circumstances.

dudr when a black guy listens to typacally white music like rock or country and drives a lifted truck or has like piercing that are typically like white rock it looks fucking awesome. they kill the style in a good way.

As a metal fan I respect Phil as a musician and what he has accomplished. As a white man I condem all racism. All the racist bullshit needs to stop.

Lots of love. This video is 100x smarter than Phil will ever be.

this video is how I discovered you man, you're a great creator.

If someone says a racial slur to me, I do it back

I've been attending metal shows for 15 years and I am always proud to see blacks attending a metal show! I have to ask them who they are there to see and have actually started some good conversations about music. Sometimes they are just there for ass which is always in abundance at concerts so who can blame anyone there.

The world will be a better place when we're all just human beings

if someone is racist then they should own up to it and be allowed to be themselves.

Robb Flynn said the whole white person saying white power and black people saying black power thing sarcastically from the point of view of a person who supports Phil's comment. Robb was agreeing with the fact that saying white power is wrong

When Alice In Chains decided that William DuVall was the new lead singer, there was a big outcry about the roll being filled by anyone other than Layne (R.I.P. Layne) but there was a ton of responses about how a black lead singer could never work for AiC. It was pretty sad to see, even more so after William proved how good he actually is, yet there are still people who hate him for one reason, and that is pathetic.

The problem I have are the double standards. No one calls out the racism in genres like rap or pop, but everyone is keen on what comes up in hardcore punk and metal. Until equal standards are applied everywhere, I mostly ignore ut.