Reading the Herculaneum Papyri

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Reading the Herculaneum Papyri

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@missopowers Ай бұрын

Imagine an American scientist appearing on an Italian podcast, and discussing complicated research concepts and philosophical history and ideas in fluent Italian. This woman is extraordinary.

@S.Lander Ай бұрын

E che bella!

@Tony-if3tl Ай бұрын

Well said! As an American of Italian heritage, I’m simply astounded by her ability to flawlessly convey such concepts in a second language. She is indeed extraordinary.

@Arduu123 Ай бұрын

She is great! However, being amazed at someone who can speak more than one language is one of the most American things imaginable.

@enricozetti Ай бұрын

True, thought to give you some context, to us, english is a mandatory subject since elementary school and, though not everyone reaches the same level, a certain knowledge is needed for many works and things of everyday life. The scientific community speaks english so a researcher needs to be able to understand and write papers in english and partake to conferences where everyone speaks english. English is also the common language we use toward europe so every time you visit other places in europe you somewhat need it to communicate. It is pretty common for graduates to have lived abroad for a time either during university or scolarships. Also of course a lot of music we hear is in english, a lot of the internet is in english, a lot of software is in english and so on. A US or UK citizen might study Italian for passion but an Italian one has to study english if he wants to interact with the world. This is not to diminish her value but to us speaking 2 or 3 languages is very useful and somewhat common in highly educated people. I would not be surprised to discover she also speaks either french, german or spanish.

@mikesmith2057 Ай бұрын

I know of two American authors who learned Italian as adults and are currently writing novels in that language -- Jhumpa Lahiri & Heddi Goodrich. It's not unheard of for Americans to learn Europeans' language, though certainly rarer than the other way around!

@Booka60 Ай бұрын

Jeez Dr. Garrett, you really struck gold with Dr. Nicolardi...a great discourse!

@acolyte1951 Ай бұрын

Thank you for continuing these podcasts. They are interesting and informative.

@tmick7108 Ай бұрын

I love Napoli what a great city! I flew over Capri in a helo at 500 ft AGL it was a great memory I love Italy and Sicily and I’m not Italian btw Napoli has great architecture Bella Bella.

@apresmidi153 Ай бұрын

Been following this in the news for awhile, as you say it's a very exciting time for this field. Thanks for covering this!

@gudepop1974 Ай бұрын

Absolutely wonderful to hear from someone close to these new discoveries.

@missopowers Ай бұрын

New information suggests that the former Consul had illegally removed these scrolls after his term ended. A golden toilet in that little room was the first clue...

@525Lines Ай бұрын

A poem about the Battle of Actium is featured in I, Claudius.

@eddysgaming9868 Ай бұрын

Thank you, Professor Ryan. This looks very promising.

@davidmajer3652 Ай бұрын

That was definitely worth the watch.

@themetroidprime Ай бұрын

Get in touch with Voices of the Past please!

@joebombero1 Ай бұрын

I like this idea!

@b.a.erlebacher1139 Ай бұрын

One thing I learned here is that when someone finished reading a scroll they left it with the last page on the outside. Maybe they had special librarian-slaves to do the rewind? How do you read a scroll? Maybe a video to walk us through it?

@eddysgaming9868 Ай бұрын

"Be kind, please rewind." lol An old adage from the days of VHS tapes.

@freespirit995 Ай бұрын

This was an extremely interesting discussion- thank you for making this available to all of us laypersons who are watching the progress of the Vesuvius challenge with great excitement. One question I'd like an answer to is when are we going to get translations of the new part of Epicurus' "On Nature" and other texts for the general public? My understanding is that several parts of "On Nature" have been partially recovered, which greatly expands the very limited number of texts of Epicurus we have from Antiquity. It seems odd that these are not published. Do you have any information on this?

@toldinstonefootnotes Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the books of "On Nature" thus far discovered have been quite fragmentary. They have, however, been published. You can read a nice summary of current work on Epicurus (with a bibliography that includes translations and commentaries) at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: plato.stanford.edu/ENTRIES/epicurus/

@freespirit995 Ай бұрын

@@toldinstonefootnotes Many thanks for this very useful link and bibliography! Please do many more such videos as the Vesuvius Challenge progresses!

@qboxer Ай бұрын

@@toldinstonefootnotes I second @freespirit995's follow on request. The work that these scholars are doing is very important.

@Benjaminwolf Ай бұрын

Amazing. I can only recall the time an archaeologist friend of mine asked if I would help catalog and sort a tremendous amount of excavated fragments of Roman glass. I turned her down. It was the type of tedious task I was not prepared to attempt. The work on these scrolls is monumental and filled with anticipation.

@larsrons7937 Ай бұрын

Very informative conversation, very interesting. This is so exciting. I can't wait to see what else they (hopefully) find in those scrolls over the coming years.

@guspeniche Ай бұрын

Great interview! I learned so much

@Walgriff 12 күн бұрын

I’ve been looking for reliable and regular updates on the deciphering efforts regarding the Herculaneum scrolls. Perhaps you could make these podcasts on this subject more regularly?

@yuriythebest 7 күн бұрын

me too. Notice how all videos on this topic talk about the technology and the basic content of the scrolls but never go into detail? My understanding is that they are able to recover some words/sentence fragments here and there to be able to tell the general topic of the scroll, but (and I'd love to be proven wrong) we have yet to see an actual "text"

@gorygremlin13 Ай бұрын

Great interview

@b.a.erlebacher1139 Ай бұрын

This was interesting. I didn't know that there was work continuing on physically unrolling the scrolls or that so much had been read. The virtual unrolling is promising, but at the moment is more proof of concept than an established method. It's such a hard problem because papyrus has a very uneven multilayed surface and ink sinks into it. The most successful virtual unrolling so far was parchment with an ink containing metal, a much easier problem.

@98Zai Ай бұрын

Love Federica, she's a great speaker and lovely to listen to! I also love the tendency to preserve that they have embraced. I think we should scan, read and preserve all the scrolls we already have before we decide to go to find new ones. We must also consider the buildings and other artifacts that would become exposed, it would be a really bad idea to bring them out if we don't have the capacity to care for them properly. From what I understand they are struggling to keep what we already have excavated safe from elements and tourists.

@Lisa-ol1ih Ай бұрын

This was amazing to hear about!

@lmonk9517 Ай бұрын

It would be my dream dor missing segments of the epic cycle to be uncovered in some of the scrolls, perhaps in scrolls yet to be unexcavated. Would also love any works on the Celtics, rhst bordered Rome. We know so little about their culture and faith considering their vastness and long history with rome.

@samucabitim Ай бұрын

Dr. Federica is so beautiful

@user-jf3hh4xr4n Ай бұрын

I enjoy your videos. But I find this one particularly interesting.

@Laocoon283 Ай бұрын

I only come here to gaze upon the glory of the Loebs behind you

@starcapture3040 Ай бұрын

philodemus lived in Gadara - Roman Jordan. the roman ruins in there still survive

@r0ky_M Ай бұрын

Prof. Brent Seales (computer scientist University of Kentucky) was instrumental in the successful program to decider the scrolls. but didn't even get a passing mention.

@toldinstonefootnotes Ай бұрын

I interviewed him last year

@tmick7108 Ай бұрын

Artificial Intelligence can read the scroll I’m sure you are aware you do good work great insight to the first century amazing.

@joebombero1 Ай бұрын

Difficult and hugely expensive at the moment, but the possibility is there for a future breakthrough.

@delphinazizumbo8674 Ай бұрын

the Real Question: is there a copy of the Necronomicon? i think we all want to know i'm guessing it's probably 60% dissertations on the Iliad or the Aeneid

@scoon2117 Ай бұрын

You should release these on your main channel!

@reddykilowatt Ай бұрын

are you going to post the actual podcast version of this to listen to rather than watch?

@toldinstonefootnotes Ай бұрын

Yes, you can listen to it via Apple Podcasts

@reddykilowatt Ай бұрын

@@toldinstonefootnotes thanks. as I write this I don’t see this episode listed there.

@jluke168 Ай бұрын

what do they actually say they?

@matthewgilmore4307 Ай бұрын

too many "uhm-hmms" -- you've gotta be told

@Panama_lewis Ай бұрын

*jaw drops to floor, eyes pop out of sockets accompanied by trumpets, heart beats out of chest, awooga awooga sound effect, pulls chain on train whistle that has appeared next to head as steam blows out, slams fists on table, rattling any plates, bowls or silverware, whistles loudly, fireworks shoot from top of head, pants loudly as tongue hangs out of mouth, wipes comically large bead of sweat from forehead, clears throat, straightens tie, combs hair* Sorry

@giffica Ай бұрын

Out of pocket but boy she’s looking her best bruh

@allahallah4711 Ай бұрын

ago (edited) Imagine an American scientist appearing on an Italian podcast, and discussing complicated research concepts and philosophical history and ideas in fluent Italian.