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The Bronze Age Collapse: How Civilisation Survived 1177BC (w/ ERIC CLINE)

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@alfonsolopez2540
@alfonsolopez2540 Ай бұрын
3 am... couldn't sleep ... then I switched the tube on and spent the most enthralling 70-plus minutes of my last decade. Having read the first 1177 book a few years ago, I truly loved the subject and your delivery.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
🥹🫶🏼🤓
@PeterOConnell-pq6io
@PeterOConnell-pq6io Ай бұрын
Seems to me that in the face of rising climate-related difficulties growing the crops that bankrolled the late bronze age powers that were, the ruling class remained too greedy, and over-reliant on foreign mercenaries, for their own good, and depending on local conditions, got their just desserts. Something the subsequent, and our current iteration of oligarchs might want to think about.
@amielwayne
@amielwayne Ай бұрын
As a fellow academic, there is nothing more relatable than a historian arguing against the subtitle of his own book, because it isn't *technically* true, but he lost the battle with his editors. 😂 20:41 I'm on team "Hammurabi's Shoes"!
@sarahrosen4985
@sarahrosen4985 Ай бұрын
Hammurabi's Shoes is such a better title. My daughters would even be tempted to read it if they saw that title on the bookshelf. Had 1177 since the first printing and cannot convince either of them to even pick it up off the shelf. And we live in the centre of where the Bronze Age collapsed! Marketing literally gave an unpick-up-able title.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed his previous book, and so will have a read of this new one.
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia Ай бұрын
@crecganford I enjoy every single one of your videos, your channel is one of the best. I have read several of your recomendations too, nice to see you here. Saludos desde Colombia.
@RK-ec5de
@RK-ec5de Ай бұрын
Crecganford!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Dr Cline’s work is GREAT!! 🤓
@Jippa_33
@Jippa_33 Ай бұрын
Great channel Crecganford!
@GeoffreyFox619
@GeoffreyFox619 Ай бұрын
Erica, I’ve been watching KZfaq videos since 2006 and this is the first and only comment I’ve ever been moved to make on a video. Thank you so much for doing these interviews and for making them lively and enjoyable. You don’t get much marketable history content in a visual medium; and while I love a traditional history book, an upbeat, living color channel where you conduct these interviews is a real treat. Thank you very much.
@billthomas7644
@billthomas7644 Ай бұрын
It seems to me that Homer knew something about the Sea People based on two passages in the Odyssey. Menelaus tells Telemachus about his sojourn in Egypt after the Trojan War and the story that Odysseus tells the swine herd. The second story sounds similar to the Sea People attack on Egypt
@markknowles8498
@markknowles8498 Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Almost certain that memories of these rovers are woven into the tapestry, alongside other nautical nightmares... Such a fascinating period of history (and, in case you're interested, you might like this section of Michael Wood's epic 1980s documentary about Troy, in which he speaks to Dr Elizabeth French, daughter of the great Mycenae expert Alan Wace. She has a brilliant angle on their base of operations.... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaibbM1quNLGYY0.html, from 42 mins).
@matthemming9105
@matthemming9105 Ай бұрын
I'll be honest, the Bronza Age Collapse is my "Roman Empire" in terms of that historical time period that dudes spend way too much thinking about. Thank you for feeding my fixation!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! 🤓
@zacharyclark3693
@zacharyclark3693 Ай бұрын
In the third book, do reverse-chronological order. Start at the end at the beginning of the book, and each chapter goes backwards until you get to the end of the Bronze Age collapse. Making sure you focus on the long term implications of the Bronze Age collapse.
@lillpoetboy
@lillpoetboy Ай бұрын
This is so awesome!! I bought book moons ago and I can't believe you had this discussion. Was not expecting this. Made my day!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
🫶🏼✨
@HectorLopez-km7vh
@HectorLopez-km7vh Ай бұрын
Dr. Cline! EXCELLENT questions and what a tremendous communicator of his work. AWESOME!!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@SolracCAP
@SolracCAP Ай бұрын
Love seeing Eric Cline anywhere he shows up, always a great and interesting conversation.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
He’s fantastic!
@chuckleezodiac24
@chuckleezodiac24 Ай бұрын
a new book by Eric Cline? beautiful! the Bronze Age Collapse is one of my favorite eras!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
🤩
@roadtoantiquity
@roadtoantiquity Ай бұрын
Yes, love this already! Edit: up until now I never had any interest in reading 1177BC exactly because of the clickbait-y title - I just thought it would be unnuanced. Now I have heard the author speak I think I am going to give it a shot. Just wish publishing houses would not push for titles like this.. gives an almost wrong impression of the book I gather.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Dr Cline’s books are INCREDIBLE - I hope you enjoy them!!!
@markknowles8498
@markknowles8498 Ай бұрын
Erica, another great interview.. This is personally my favourite of all because it covers so much of the same ground as the research behind 'Hades'. He comes across as such a decent man, too (and glad he corrected your doing yourself down at the end!) p.s. will be returning to Mycenae late October on research: get yourself and your partner back there!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching, Mark! And oh my goodness, we’ve actually been talking about returning to Greece soon - how strange 👀
@gavinsmith9564
@gavinsmith9564 Ай бұрын
Wonderful interview, really excited to read these books now. Hopefully Professor Cline will self publish the Armana letters manuscript on Kindle or similar if a publisher doesn't snap it up.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@alyasgrey9370
@alyasgrey9370 11 күн бұрын
Oh my god, I'm thrilled to have stumbled on this channel. It's so exciting to see an interview with Eric Cline, one of my absolute favorite historians.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 11 күн бұрын
:)))
@devil_pls
@devil_pls Ай бұрын
Hello. I'm pretty new to this channel and eventhough I haven't seen that much of your videos yet I definitely love that you seem to interview allot of people on these topics that otherwise might not get the recognition they deserve if it wasn't for the internet and lengthy interviews like this that you do. Love stuff like this and keep it up 👍
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching 🩵
@sarahrosen4985
@sarahrosen4985 Ай бұрын
Hammurabi's Shoes is a faaaaaaar better title.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@tudorm6838
@tudorm6838 8 күн бұрын
Great interview! I look forward to a new book by Eric Cline more than a new episode of Star Wars :)
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@joknaepkens
@joknaepkens 20 күн бұрын
Compared to 536 AD, the Bronze Age Collapse was a doozy. If Krakatoa kept it's chill back then, this text would probably be in Gaelic, Navajo or Latin. 😆
@AldoYanezRuiz
@AldoYanezRuiz Ай бұрын
Excellent interview! Just ordered the first book.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!!
@omicdog
@omicdog 4 күн бұрын
People in the US call it George Washington University. GW is what we call Games Workshop, which is in the UK.
@macnichols7180
@macnichols7180 18 күн бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this! Am subscribing as a result.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 17 күн бұрын
Thank you!!
@dezukaful
@dezukaful Ай бұрын
another exciting interview!!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
🤓
@Jippa_33
@Jippa_33 Ай бұрын
You have wonderful guests like Dr. Cline & Stephen Fry, all of my favorites! Have you spoken to Irving Finkel?
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Yes I have!
@crhu319
@crhu319 28 күн бұрын
​@@MoAnIncRobyn Faith Walsh would be another amazing interview.
@alwilliams5177
@alwilliams5177 Ай бұрын
Excellent episode! Really hope the Amarna letters book makes it out. I am certain there are many who would love it.
@davehas12
@davehas12 29 күн бұрын
Brilliant interview! Love Dr Clines .. love this channel. Thank you
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 29 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@allesvergaengliche
@allesvergaengliche Ай бұрын
Great video! I loved Dr. Cline’s 1177, and I didn’t know there was a sequel.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
And now you do 🤓
@jameshattaway7017
@jameshattaway7017 Ай бұрын
I’ve had Dr. Cline’s book 1177 on my wish-list for several years now- this interview clinched it. Ordered them both. Can’t wait. By the way, great (and I mean GREAT) interview!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏✨
@WillMowass
@WillMowass Ай бұрын
My favorite channel on YT. Love this interview. Getting both books!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thank youuuuu 🥹🫶🏼
@bob___
@bob___ 27 күн бұрын
On the change in organization from the first book to the second, it makes perfect sense, because the first book tells the tale of a interconnected trading system, while the second book takes the tale of isolated regions after the collapse of the interconnected trading system. If the third book takes the story to the death of Alexander, it will inevitably be a story of reestablishing and extending connections among ancient civilizations. For that reason, if a third form of organization is desired, maybe the place to start is with Alexander and how the world into which he was born came to be - and how he (or his army) changed it.
@bhavens9149
@bhavens9149 Ай бұрын
I like Literary whiplash, very nice, adding it to the lexicon
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
😂🫡
@KevinWardle-jn6bo
@KevinWardle-jn6bo Ай бұрын
I would love to volunteer in Archeology dig, especially with my extensive knowledge of Bronze age and Iron age research.
@odinfireful
@odinfireful 12 күн бұрын
Erica, thankyou, interesting and you are wonderful. Love your energy!!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! 🫶🏼
@CheddarBayBaby
@CheddarBayBaby Ай бұрын
Eric’s got that ancient historian rizz
@NancyBruning
@NancyBruning Ай бұрын
Nice interview about a rather frightening topic, in that we seem to be heading towards a similar collapse. Book number 4, expanding upon what we’ve learned about collapse and how to deal with it, will be fantastic! All this knowledge and analysis could be put to use.
@user-tw1qr6ni4w
@user-tw1qr6ni4w Ай бұрын
This was so good, Erica! I stopped midway and ordered his second book!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
😍😍😍
@andylyon3867
@andylyon3867 Ай бұрын
Book 3 divide by aspects of culture. Religion, great thinkers, wars, arts, trade, technology so forth.
@ubertcoolie8694
@ubertcoolie8694 Ай бұрын
I would never have heard of the sea people if I didn't have internet.
@mateobravo9212
@mateobravo9212 28 күн бұрын
That book is going straight in my basket!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 24 күн бұрын
!!!!
@jannarkiewicz633
@jannarkiewicz633 Ай бұрын
Entertaining as always
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thank you 😇
@tudorm6838
@tudorm6838 8 күн бұрын
In recent years, a new type of information has emerged beyond archaeology: geological research - this is how we learn that there was a very long drought. Or the DNA analysis of the ancients - this is how we find out the European origin of the first Philistines (or their assimilation by the local population later). This information was already used in the second book.
@MarkAS56
@MarkAS56 Ай бұрын
Dr. Cline did a great lecture for a company called Modern Scholar, on Archaeology and the Iliad. Its available on cd and i assume download. I remember firsr finding it at my library. Its great.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
He truly is a great speaker.
@tairayoshimura9056
@tairayoshimura9056 Ай бұрын
Hi Erica, how did Bronze Age societies support and compensate their militaries? If you were the invader, plunder, slave harvests, and land grabs were apparently sufficient. Ig., Caesar in Gaul. But if you were the defender, assembling, supporting, and compensating large armies presents challenges, but yields little commodity gains.
@crhu319
@crhu319 28 күн бұрын
Exactly. So invading paid off for rulers while defending didn't. Kind of explains everything.
@TheReelDealwithTomKonkle
@TheReelDealwithTomKonkle 15 күн бұрын
Love your channel.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 15 күн бұрын
Thank you so much :)
@OldThomMerton
@OldThomMerton Ай бұрын
I have been interested in Mycenae, the Sea Peoples and Schliemans findings at Troy for decades but only became interested in the Bronze Age Collapse around 2019. So little on the internet on the subject, but a few decent KZfaqrs have made a dent in the subject and a few books that didn't really cover the subject well IMO. I just purchased Eric's book and will be delving into it this afternoon! Great video!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Th3BigBoy
@Th3BigBoy Ай бұрын
Have you ever talked to Godward? It would be a fun conversation to see you both talk.
@toddanderson6568
@toddanderson6568 16 күн бұрын
Nice interview. One thought that I had is that you should follow this interview up with an expert who has written on 536 AD. Afterwards, you could have both authors on if you feel comfortable with that interview format.
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia Ай бұрын
I love to see you two together!
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
🫶🏼🫶🏼
@eriktangerstad1260
@eriktangerstad1260 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to the third part of the trilogi. But it should be called ”North of 1177” and deal with the Tollensee Battle as well as the Bronze Age Peak when the Boltic Sea took the Bronze Age Tourch from The Mediterranean Sea. Hope Eric Cline takes this into considerstion since the connection between the Boltic and the Meditteranean remains understudied altough there is a huge amount of new research on the Baltic sea Bronze Age
@jaeslow6347
@jaeslow6347 29 күн бұрын
Whenever I see his face I’m convinced he’s like a actor or something, he has a very recognisable face.
@torrentialrage
@torrentialrage Ай бұрын
This subject really fascinates me.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
As it should!!
@pablolongobardi7240
@pablolongobardi7240 15 күн бұрын
horribly summarized: I want to make a book about shoes No, doesnt sell, make it about bronze age collapse Shoes! okok, start with collapse go to shoes, finish with bornze age collapse Deal!
@michaelstearnes1526
@michaelstearnes1526 8 күн бұрын
Erica, I hope that someday you will interview Prof. Barry Strauss. His book on the naval battle of Salamis is a fascinating read.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 8 күн бұрын
I have Interviewed Professor Strauss, but about his book on Caesar's death! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hM6kmamKx6y9fZ8.html
@michaelstearnes1526
@michaelstearnes1526 8 күн бұрын
@@MoAnInc Thanks for posting your interview with Prof. Strauss. Anxiously anticipating his book on Actium. Hopefully we will someday be blessed by a study of the battle of Ecnomus by Prof. Strauss.
@avenaoat
@avenaoat 22 күн бұрын
Interesting I think the true end of the antiqity is not 476 AD, but it would be better 536 AD. It may be the irone age (antiqity) was between 1177 BC to 536 AD (instead of 476 AD). Phoenicians was succesful to restart the trading after 1177 BC. Only some city got seriouse problem in Phoenicia as Ugarit.
@SubtleReed
@SubtleReed Ай бұрын
We just came out of the dark ane and now we have to go to the bronze age. Look, man, I'm going to the Golden Age right now.
@ryanmichael1298
@ryanmichael1298 Ай бұрын
I really love this topic.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
😇
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 Ай бұрын
Great dialogue 👌 👏 👍 I'm typically a devil's advocate here, but Eric is the man and a great educator who I've learned so much from and followed many generations throughout his career.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! 🤓
@markberman6708
@markberman6708 Ай бұрын
Amazing presenter, will definitely watch later.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🫶🏼
@dozidac
@dozidac Ай бұрын
Now looks like i need to get the book now :)
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
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@skogstjuven
@skogstjuven Ай бұрын
be from South America I always wonder. The Bronze Age Collapse only happened in what we today call Norden Africa and the Middle East right? Bronze Age live on for longer in South and Central America?
@askallois
@askallois Ай бұрын
In South America they knew no metals except gold. Metals were imported n3l 1500 AD by the Spanish. At least that's what I learnt at school.
@vanhowell3011
@vanhowell3011 Ай бұрын
At 30:00, you ask us what third approach could follow the chronological and geographical? The answer lies a minute or two earlier, in your mentioning of Alexander, Buddha, etc. This is when distinct personalities emerge (as ta consistently dominant factor in history-making) for the first time. Although shrouded in myth, they're vividly individual... BIOGRAPHICAL is what you need for part three! Of course you won't be rehashing actual biographies of actual people very much, but by putting them into their CHRONOLOGICAL and GEOGRAPHICAL CONTEXTS you can write something almost like a biography of the world as it was during those centuries,,, with the individual human beings shining brightly and illuminating our path... It might be good literature-that is to say, more interesting-as well as correct politics to give equal time to females, and includes some gods and goddesses, heroes and heroines, as well as mortals.
@kurts4867
@kurts4867 Ай бұрын
many such cases...
@1d1ane
@1d1ane 11 күн бұрын
We get it Erik, she's AI.
@Douglas.Scott.McCarron
@Douglas.Scott.McCarron Ай бұрын
Civilisation?
@ArturdeSousaRocha
@ArturdeSousaRocha Ай бұрын
I'm all for Sea Peoples and poor quality copper memes.
@altinksart
@altinksart Ай бұрын
Du vi no iv bronze Age cululter in mitrian si hav an konekson vit bronze Age cululter in china Zhang en Mycenaean Som konekson
@jag0937eb
@jag0937eb 5 күн бұрын
Nice polka dots
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 5 күн бұрын
Thank youuuuu
@PeterJessenDK
@PeterJessenDK Ай бұрын
So much circling around the matter without ever really getting to the core. Do Americans scholars have an institutional bias always focusing on the "biblical geography" and leaving out the whole picture of the European Bronze age stretching all the way to the North?
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
We don’t “circle around the matter” at all - my job is to bring to light the themes of a book in order to encourage people to read said book (or in this case, books*). I’m not going to conduct an interview where we go over all the details or else people would never pick up the book!
@PeterJessenDK
@PeterJessenDK Ай бұрын
@@MoAnInc Didn't want to be rude, was enlightened by your interesting video❤️ But had expected to hear more details about those specific years mentioned, as I'm not very likely ever to get the book in my hands.
@_DarkEmperor
@_DarkEmperor 13 күн бұрын
One thing is sure, modern women fashion is overrated, and we should go back to Minoan fashion.
@BizarrePower
@BizarrePower 18 күн бұрын
Forget that comment about you trying to be cute. You are cute as is.
@infinidimensionalinfinitie5021
@infinidimensionalinfinitie5021 Ай бұрын
information of interest; to soMe;
@petergianakopoulos4926
@petergianakopoulos4926 14 күн бұрын
Shs is pretty.... when I grow up I'm going to marry her
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 14 күн бұрын
Interesting take from this video?
@DanSam48
@DanSam48 27 күн бұрын
Going forward, could you keep the camera on the beautiful dark haired English lass and not the old man?
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 27 күн бұрын
… that would be Eric Cline, THE expert in the Bronze Age Collapse so … no x
@DanSam48
@DanSam48 26 күн бұрын
@@MoAnInc yeah, but seriously, what sets your channel apart from the dozen other places he's giving that interview on YT? It's you dear. I'm fully capable of respecting your intellect, but getting to look at you is better than him, and your competition for views. Thanks for the content.
@drillbabydrill892
@drillbabydrill892 Ай бұрын
Good stuff. Would be better if the woman would stop giggling.
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
???
@Yoo-yooYeshua
@Yoo-yooYeshua Ай бұрын
Cutie
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc Ай бұрын
I too think Dr Cline is adorable
@emmetsweeney9236
@emmetsweeney9236 Ай бұрын
The Bronze Age collapse is pure fiction. Read Velikovsky's Ages in Chaos and Ramses ii and his Time.
@nmalbrecht
@nmalbrecht Ай бұрын
Velikovsky was a pseudo historian who’s goal was to reconcile the archeological record with the Bible
@persallnas5408
@persallnas5408 23 күн бұрын
omg 12 hour intro and the hands below your mug trying to be cute? No thank u, NO THANKS
@MoAnInc
@MoAnInc 23 күн бұрын
No one is forcing you to watch the interview if you don’t want to✨ You also don’t have to leave comments that are wholly negative just to get attention. I don’t do anything to just try and be cute (I actually place my hand there to remind me to keep my back straight!), but thanks for clicking on the video and giving it a go anyways
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