Elizabeth I's Suitors: Fates and Fortunes

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Images (from Wikimedia Commons, unless otherwise stated):
Portrait of Duke Charles of Angoulême by Corneille de Lyon (1536). Held by the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon.
Portrait of Anne Boleyn by an unknown English artist (late 16th century, based on a work of circa 1533-1536). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of Thomas Seymour, 1st Baron Seymour of Sudeley by Nicolas Denizot (c.1547-1549). Held by the National Maritime Museum.
Portrait of Katherine Parr by an unknown artist (late 16th century). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of Philip of Spain and Mary I of England by Hans Eworth (1558). Held by Woburn Abbey.
Portrait of Edward Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon by an unknown artist of the English school (c.1555). Held in an unknown location / collection.
Portrait of Emmanuel Philibert, Duke of Savoy by Giacomo Vighi (16th century). Held in an unknown location / collection.
Portrait of Philip II in Armour by Titian (1551). Held by the Museo del Prado.
Elisabeth de Valois with her husband, Philip II of Spain. Miniature from a prayer book of Catherine de' Medici (16th century). Held by the Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris.
Portrait of Anna of Austria by Alonso Sánchez Coello (c.1571). Held by the Lázaro Galdiano Museum.
Portrait of Frederick II of Denmark and Norway by Hans Knieper (1581). Held by the Museum of National History, Denmark.
Portrait of Anne of Denmark by John de Crittz (c.1605). Held by the National Maritime Museum.
Portrait of Erik XIV of Sweden attributed to Domenicus Verwilt (1561) Held by the National Museum, Sweden.
Portrait of Thomas Wyatt the Younger by Hans Holbein the Younger (c.1540-42). Held by the Weiss Gallery.
Portrait engraving of James Hamilton, 3rd Earl of Arran by Pieter Stevens van Gunst, after Adriaen van der Werff (1707). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester by Steven van der Meulen (c.1564). Held by Waddesdon Manor.
Portrait of Lettice Knollys attributed to George Gower (c.1585). Held in the collection of the Marquess of Bath / Grand Staircase, Longleat.
Portrait of the Archduke Charles of Austria by Bartolomé González y Serrano (c.1608-1617). Held by the Museo del Prado.
Portrait of Henry III of France in Polish hat attributed to Étienne Dumonstier (c.1580-1586). Held by the National Museum in Poznań.
“St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre” by François Dubois (between c.1572-1584). Held by the Cantonal Museum of Fine Arts.
Portrait of Prince Hercule-François, Duc d'Alençon by an unknown artist (16th century). Held by the National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C.
16th century German engraving of Ivan IV by an unknown artist. Held by the Austrian National Library.
Quoted texts:
Glyn Redworth, ODNB entry on Philip of Spain.
Patrick Collinson, ODNB entry on Elizabeth I.
Susan Doran, ODNB entry on William Pickering.
Rosalind K. Marshall, ODNB entry on James Hamilton.
Also consulted, were:
Other relevant entries from The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography Online.
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@BethDiane 6 ай бұрын

Marriage was a raw deal for women throughout much of the past. Elizabeth was smart to steer clear of it under the circumstances.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 6 ай бұрын

Yes. She did the right thing by bringing the Tudors to an end.

@lynnebarnes3840 6 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3ithe Stuarts were a piss poor alternative, they had Tudor blood anyway, from Margret Henry VIIIs sister.

@annwilliams6438 6 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3iThere is still a monarch with Tudor blood on the throne….

@joyoung2483 6 ай бұрын

Robert Dudley simply because he seemed to be who she would have chosen - but I truly think she felt that marriage was not a great option for her. 👑

@fridayhunt7075 6 ай бұрын

I’m with you on that.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 6 ай бұрын

Smart woman. I’m glad she ended the Tudor line. They were awful and not worthy.

@annwilliams6438 6 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3iJames was even worse!

@ingerfaber3411 6 ай бұрын

Dudley wanted to be king more than he wanted to be Elizabeth's husband I think

@arcola44 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video! I don't think Elizabeth ever believed that marriage was an option for her. She was probably badly scarred by how Henry treated her mother, and how Thomas Seymour treated her. She also saw how the people turned against Mary when she insisted on marrying Phillip. She may have harbored deep feelings for Dudley, but her interaction with various suitors was all diplomacy. She thought the only way to keep her throne was to remain unmarried, and she was later confirmed in her belief by watching the train wreck which was Mary Queen of Scots. 💒 👰

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Smart woman. Do you think she made James vi her heir because she had his mother executed? Or were there no other options this side of the channel?

@Raven_Nivhaar 6 ай бұрын

I agree. The marriage examples that surrounded her weren't exactly the most positive, so I can understand her choosing to steer clear. Also that this was the first time there had been a proper Queen in power, and it would have been incredibly easy for everyone to look to her husband instead of her if she were to marry, so that could have played a role as well in her decision.

@barbarak2836 6 ай бұрын

Not only did she see Henry's treatment of her mother, but that of all his wives. Although she never knew Catherine of Aragon, of course, I'm sure she was aware of her treatment at Henry's hands, and either witnessed or was aware of the way he treated all her stepmothers.

@arcola44 6 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3i Don't think she named him as heir, but she knew he would most likely be king. Maybe she felt some guilt late in life for executing an "anointed" queen, but it also seems a bit out of character for Elizabeth. I think she probably favored James VI because the other three claimants had baggage. Edward Seymour had legitimacy rumors, and he was a Seymour. Anne Stanley never really made a claim. Arbella Stuart was rumored to have been plotting with the Seymours (imagine that!), and I think she was nominally a Catholic.

@tinygypsyladycreations7265 6 ай бұрын

Holy cow she had a lot of suitors. I honestly feel like she didn't choose one because there wasn't one she was willing to share power with at a time when women were considered less than.

@dfuher968 6 ай бұрын

Ive always thought, that most, if not all, of her suitors had no real interest in her as a person, but only in her position. They were ambitious men, who wanted to be King of England and had no intention of sharing power with her. That might be unfair to a few of them, but it would be perfectly natural for the time. And I think, she knew that. She knew, if she married, she would end up sidelined and at the mercy of her husband. Just consider the observations, she wouldve made, of the marriages of her father, her sister, her cousin Mary, Queen of Scots, and the nobility in general. Even unmarried she had to carefully and cleverly navigate all the intrigue around her to avoid men usurping some or all of her power.

@AprilBird4 6 ай бұрын

I think she was lucky to have bypassed them all. None of them really impressed me, but if I was going to pick one, it would be Robert D. Just because she seemed to love him. I think he did care for her, but..... I think he had other motives, too.

@TheIntrepidSockKnitter 6 ай бұрын

Thoroughly enjoyed this episode! I think William Pickering would've made a great husband for Elizabeth - I could just imagine him pottering about in the background doing the gardening and the washing up and letting Elizabeth get on with being Queen 😆

@ellencook1658 6 ай бұрын

Totally Dennis Thatcher vibes!

@TheIntrepidSockKnitter 6 ай бұрын

Exactly! Poor Dennis - I remember him as a kid seeing press photos of him looking pretty hapless and that Spiitting Image puppet of him - oof!

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 6 ай бұрын

Definitely a man who would have towed the line. Not sexy though.🤣

@renastone9355 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the laugh - love the idea of an Elizabeth-Spouse doing the washing up while she ruled the country.

@westzed23 4 ай бұрын

😁😁👑

@caitlinallen8400 6 ай бұрын

This topic has always fascinated me; I think Elizabeth might have wanted to marry someone, she obviously envied her ladies and favorites who were "free" to do so. But in the end, her past experiences and the experiences of others gave her reasonable caution, and she opted out. Probably the wisest thing she could have done back in those days, unfortunately, to protect herself and her throne. In a sense, I feel like she sacrificed being married for the protection of her kingdom, since marriage to any of these suitors came with a small possibility of political strife and civil unrest.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 6 ай бұрын

Yes, and possible death in childbirth. Then what? Glad she brought the sorry mess that the Tudors were to an end.

@CoffeesChypresBooks 6 ай бұрын

Marriage would have resulted in her demotion. As long as she stayed single, she had control of herself and her realm.

@spews1973 6 ай бұрын

Erik XIV of Sweden probably is the one most deserving of his own video.

@marcusfridh8489 6 ай бұрын

The whole Vasa family, makes the young and the restless look like a kindergarten show. Fun fact, he sent his brother John (later John the third) and his sister Cecilia, Elizabeth even became the godmother of Cecilia's first born son Edvard fortunatus. And Cecilia's life would be a huge epic box office adventure drama if ever got filmed, she even became a pirate for a few years

@deborahhill4595 6 ай бұрын

This was excellent. I honestly think there was no option she could have taken. A woman in that role needs a partner who understands the concept of partnership. She was clearly a means to an end for most. The few that may have genuinely cared for would have come with issues in her government making her vulnerable. I always thought this was solely her choice but I'm not so sure now.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 6 ай бұрын

Maybe she always knew she’d name James vi her heir, especially after she had his mother executed. I think she deliberately brought the Tudor line to an end because of the actions of her father. I’m only sorry he could never know that the mayhem and murder had all been for nought. Apart from Elizabeth l I can’t stand the Tudors. They should never have been on the throne in the first place.

@kathyjones3681 6 ай бұрын

I think she made the right choice...none of the above 👸👑👑

@annemorton5236 6 ай бұрын

An enjoyable talk about a complicated story - far more fun for us than for Elizabeth and the men who actually experienced it - the men being not just the prospective bridegrooms but her civil servants and politicians wringing their hands over their monarch's failure to marry. 💘

@bethwingfield6669 6 ай бұрын

Another program about the Duke of Anjou might be fun.

@pattimilstead8794 6 ай бұрын

She should have picked Pickering to marry and have children with in order to leave an heir, but was also scared of marriage from all that she had witnessed. He wasnt who she wanted though as her heart belonged to Dudley. ❤ Love your videos!

@ContextShakespeare1740 6 ай бұрын

Dudley was the man that she was in love with, their relationship was passionate and stormy. I think he loved her too, but he was a wrong un through and through, he was a possible murderer, not just the suspicious death of his wife Amy, but rumours that he was a poisoner. Elizabeth had a true affection for Duc d'Alencon and agreed to marry him, she was angry that Dudley had married Lettuce in secret, it was Simier (French Ambassador that Liz called monkey) that told her the news. Dudley was jealous of Francois and Elizabeth was fuming that Dudley had married in secret. On the night she announced her engagement to Francois her ladies in waiting wept so loudly that in the morning she changed her mind, in the words of Edward de Vere Earl of Oxford, The moon methinks looks with a watery eye; And when she weeps, weeps every little flower, Lamenting some enforced chastity ( A Midsummer Night's Dream III.i.198-201)

@grievousangelic 6 ай бұрын

Dudley. I know Elizabeth was gravely concerned about optics, but I think she could have survived it. There would have been a storm of response, but it would have eventually blown over, and Elizabeth still would have been queen -- and a much happier, more contented woman, since she could be with the one person she really loved. I'm not sure Robert really felt the same, though, since he had to know that marrying Lettice Knollys was going to stoke Elizabeth's ire. Unless he decided if he couldn't marry her, he'd rather just not be at court, and marrying Lettice did just that. For a while, anyway. 💍

@ellencook1658 6 ай бұрын

I honestly believe she knew she couldn’t afford to marry and give birth. With apologies to Woody Hayes addressing the forward pass in American 🏈football, “Getting pregnant has three possible outcomes, and two of them are bad.”

@amykortuem5554 6 ай бұрын

Dudley, because, for once, she would have been able to follow her heart. It would likely have been disastrous, though. And I really don’t think she ever intended to marry, or she would have, being as strong as she was.❤

@hollynewsteinhautala5573 6 ай бұрын

Robert Dudley was her great love, but she was too well aware of the pitfalls of marriage and the danger of childbirth. She was also unwilling to share the throne with anyone. By remaining unmarried, she chose wisely.

@dalestaley5637 6 ай бұрын

Hello Dr. Kat! California here! It's not a sunny day and yes, all the leaves are brown. 😊 I'd pick France. He died early. No to Ivan. H8, a tyrant. Ivan a tyrant. I know some ladies seek or are placed by situations not of their choosing, multigenerational chaos. Elizabeth I, was not one. Elizabeth I made the best possible choice by remaining unmarried to a man, but married to her country and it's people. Thank you for the history you research, present to us. It is a lot of work. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Loving this channel.

@lynnedelacy2841 6 ай бұрын

I hadn’t realised Dudley had had an affair with a child before his second marriage - I wonder how Elizabeth reacted to this

@timefoolery 6 ай бұрын

Oooh sounds scrummy with lashings of intrigue!! I’m so here for it.

@okiejammer2736 6 ай бұрын

Her options were few on everything we mortals take for granted - trusted friends, potential mates - and what foreign leader will betray me next ... really a tough position. She chose what she evidently thought was best for her country, considering herself more than a few times in speeches the Mother of her beloved England.

@bethwingfield6669 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Dr. Kat, for your channel. You feed a hungry mind.

@rhiannonpoole6019 6 ай бұрын

I'm old enough to remember Elizabeth R on telly, about 1970 I think, I still picture Robert Hardy and Robin Ellis as Dudley and Essex, I'd have married either of them....Seriously, I think she felt safer unmarried after her scarred childhood, and may have feared dying in or around childbirth like so many of her contemporaries.

@pfranks75 6 ай бұрын

I remember that series, it did help me develop an interest in history.

@martyjones5750 6 ай бұрын

..Robert Dudley..!✨🥰..I know love wasn’t a fashionable reason, but I think she loved being with him.. Question Please: is there a name for the style of beard all of the suitors had during that time..? Thank you for this wonderful channel..🤸🏼‍♂️🤸🏼‍♂️❤️

@janeventer3376 6 ай бұрын

Definitely Robert Dudley! Anyone else notice the startling resemblance between Elizabeth and Lettice...? 🤭

@scarlettg6136 6 ай бұрын

Excellent information. Elizabeth truly didn't have a total package in any of her choices of a life's partner. They all came with baggage. Poor Elizabeth.🎎💔💔💔

@rosevale3218 6 ай бұрын

Elizabeth I was bound by conventions of the times and a union with any of her suitors was not possible due to the fact that women were subjugated to their husbands. Had her brother survived to a ripe old age she may have found happiness by marrying for love instead of as a pawn in the great chess game that was European monarchy at that time. I would have chosen Dudley since she seemed most likely to have loved him. Both Mary and Elizabeth suffered greatly from Henry VIII's obsession with a male heir. 😢👸💒👑👰‍♀️

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 6 ай бұрын

And his wives. I only wish he could have known that all his murderous actions came to nothing. Loathsome man.

@nightowlslounge 5 ай бұрын

This was very interesting, I always wondered why Elizabeth chose to give her “favorite” to Mary Queen of Scots.❤👸🏼🌼

@theresalaux5655 6 ай бұрын

I can't help but laugh at that portrait of Mary and Phillip and his toothpick legs. I know I'm bad! 😂😂

@annekearneyfarrelly9643 6 ай бұрын

She was also fond of my tenth great uncle Thomas Butler, 10th Earl of Ormond. I throughly enjoyed your video 🙋‍♀️☘️

@danielsantiagourtado3430 6 ай бұрын

Love your content 😊😊😊❤❤❤

@veesimmons2464 6 ай бұрын

I never knew there were SO MANY possible suitors for QE !! Very interesting, indeed.

@R08Tam 6 ай бұрын

My namesake Robert Dudley of course. What a stunner!

@BeeKool__113 6 ай бұрын

I saw another program just about Robert someone called him "Robert STUDley" 😂 😎

@ea42455 6 ай бұрын

Nothing brightens a gray rainy day more than a new program from Dr. Kat. Many thanks from Magnolia, Kentucky.

@AmberWatson-1921 6 ай бұрын

Same. It is a gloomy, rainy day here in Richmond, IN, which means I am cuddled up watching Dr. Kat. 🌧

@jessicam3676 6 ай бұрын

Starting a 6deg day in the PacNorthwest snuggled with Dr. Kat too. Thanks for reminding what a treat these are.

@avivatal614 5 ай бұрын

The frog, of course. He seemed to make her laugh and feel like a woman desired. She needed it badly. Her own very sad death would ,may be, have been less bitter.

@HLBear 6 ай бұрын

I honestly didn't realize she had so many potential matches. This was very interesting. ❤❤

@donnariahi2975 6 ай бұрын

👑👑 Dudley would have made sense but he doesn’t seem like he would have respected her authority.

@goeegoanna 6 ай бұрын

Fascinating, as always, thank you. I would love a show on the boyfriends of James I, all the salacious rumours and scandals

@CrossroadsDemon 6 ай бұрын

Hello! Greetings from Australia! I’m a long time fan of your content. Would love you to do an in depth video on the life of Sir Nicholas Carew. He is a figure in Tudor court that flies under the radar but he had a real significant impact on the King and court. Would love to hear your thoughts on him in a video. 😀

@aimeemorgado8715 6 ай бұрын

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@fredericasteller8939 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for providing these most interesting videos of the Tudor Era! I love hearing and reading about life in this historical period!

@kathrynmast916 6 ай бұрын

Again, Dr. Kat presented a thoughtful and excellent video! I never realized that there were that many men and monarchies after poor Elizabeth. I think she had witnessed too much tragedy and trauma to fall into the marriage trap herself. Considering the marriage record of her father and sister, I think she decided that was not going to in her life.👸🤴🏼💍🐸🐩🔕💔🥰😵‍💫🤫🤔🥺🏰

@user-hx6ye4jq1n 6 ай бұрын

Interesting that Elizabeth out lived most of her suitors, even ones considerably younger than her.

@tessat338 6 ай бұрын

Wow! So many of them either died young or turned out to be train wrecks! She may have had a lucky escape from most of them!

@Elvertaw 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I think the trauma of her childhood set the bells ringing when she got serious about a fellow. Dudley was her youth but the Anjou was her mature love. And probably the one she could have had more fun with 😎

@gogreen7794 6 ай бұрын

I wasn't there, of course, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't in love with anyone except Robin Dudley. I'll keep it at that, although I could lay out all my reasons after studying Elizabeth's life for nearly 60 years, but this isn't the place to do that.

@woodrow60 6 ай бұрын

We see in the present day, and slightly further back to Prince Albert, how frustrated and unhappy male consorts of monarchs can be playing second fiddle. It is reasonable to think that a male consort not only could have but would wielded substantial power and undermined Elizabeth. Philip did that to Mary I when he was in England.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@jenniferroxy5956 6 ай бұрын

Another banger!❤

@a.e.rivera-weaver8175 6 ай бұрын

Great video! ❤

@Caladonia 6 ай бұрын

Great show! 🙌

@karinbroberg6683 5 ай бұрын

14:10 As a Karin, I have to say that your pronounciation of my name was the best one I've heard from a primarily English speaking person! Bravo! 👏 🎉

@arthurfarrow 6 ай бұрын

If John Knox thought he was mad, he must have been

@Dfoto679 6 ай бұрын

Very informative thank you🎉

@vidaudink3044 5 ай бұрын

Wonderful video! Thank you!!! 🍾🎉🎂

@barbarella1.301 6 ай бұрын

Very interesting Dr Kat.

@XX-vu2cz 6 ай бұрын

Great content as ever.😀

@christyb2912 6 ай бұрын

I didn't realize they were so many! thank you great video!

@nicolenox7882 6 ай бұрын

Great vid as usual. 💒🎉

@beckycollier-burgess1568 6 ай бұрын

💍 thanks for another brilliant video!

@robynsandri7924 6 ай бұрын

It’s hard to think of her being married at all. She obviously was determined to stay single as many of the matches seemed good.

@Amc933 6 ай бұрын

So very complete and informative. Many thanks!

@Kristine709 6 ай бұрын

Dudley may have been the favorite but he was a scoundrel. If only Elizabeth was as young as Anjou - they might have been happy. 🎉🎉

@louiseoliver3453 6 ай бұрын

My mind boggles with the Ivan the Terrible idea, not because of his reputation but the idea that they'd add another denomination (Russian orthodox Christianity) into the mix

@theresalaux5655 6 ай бұрын

Hi Dr Kat. Good video stay well❤😊

@francesnash5872 6 ай бұрын

💍👑💐 Not much to choose from in the husband pool. QE 1st needed a helpmate not an opportunist.

@Jaspersmom411 6 ай бұрын

❤Hello from USA. Recently discovered your channel/videos and am enthralled!

@LiamDeeley 6 ай бұрын

Another great video. Comment to feed the algorithm!

@msvaleriah 6 ай бұрын

I agree with @joyyoung2483. I would have picked Robert Dudley for her too, for the same reason. I also agree that she really didn't want to marry at all, from out of fear of both losing power and losing herself. She was carrying a lot of emotional trauma from all she had experienced during her formative years and thereafter, and that would have affected how she viewed the concept, I'm sure.

@MistbornPrincess 6 ай бұрын

I don’t know why she couldn’t have written a prenup that said “I’m the Queen, you’re the prince, this kingdom is mine, you’re just going to be my baby-daddy.” Surely she had enough power to even just marry an English courtier.

@msvaleriah 6 ай бұрын

@@MistbornPrincess It's far more complex than that! Although she was ahead of her time, in order to keep her power, Elizabeth still had to deal with the cultural conventions of her day. It's a completely different world from the one we live in now. They disputed that a woman could even rule, period, let alone be okay with her thumbing her nose at the marital conventions of the time. Her remaining unmarried was controversial as it was.

@MistbornPrincess 6 ай бұрын

@@msvaleriah yeah, it’s still a strange concept, even for me, a student of history. Some things are hard to grasp unless we could live in their time. Even then it would be hard to accept because we know better-at least in some ways.

@MsFlamingFlamer 6 ай бұрын

This is so much fun!! ❤❤❤👰🏼‍♀️💍💐

@helencooper1813 6 ай бұрын

❤ another interesting and informative video, about love and marriage thank you so much

@leslieannashing8911 6 ай бұрын

A wonderful episode for 2024! Thank you! 💍

@prettypic444 6 ай бұрын

I find it interesting that royal brides were expected to convert to their husband's religion, but royal grooms were not (even if they were marrying a queen regent!) as far as matches, I so find the Anjou match pretty interesting, especially considering all the political drama going on in France at the time. we could have a queen regent of England married to the king of France! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿➕🇫🇷🟰💋⁉️

@thebanditking8502 6 ай бұрын

my friend got me your goth af shirt for christmas!! been watching for years, thanks dr kat 🫶

@madelinevanderbunny607 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@misskitty2710 6 ай бұрын

My vote would go her “Frog”, because they seemed so truly fond of one another. I know that it would then have been doubtful that she would have had issue, so perhaps her Council was against the match because it could have led to undue French influence on England’s future, but he seems to have been a genuine suitor, with Elizabeth’s best interests T heart🐸💕

@vmommyx4 Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@mianilsson710 6 ай бұрын

Did not Erik XIV send his sister, Princess Cecilia Vasa to England as a messanger? Cecilias friend and lady in waiting, Helena Snakenborg married William Parr the markis of Northampton

@ReadingthePast 6 ай бұрын

That was certainly part of the reason for her visit. She’s really interesting and really deserves a video of her own!

@mianilsson710 6 ай бұрын

Vadstena bullret!

@marcusfridh8489 6 ай бұрын

He even sent his brother the future king John the third, and during his time in England be became a very competent tennis player

@karentucker2161 6 ай бұрын

@mianilsson710 what noise????

@mianilsson710 6 ай бұрын

Vadstenabullret, when Princess Cecilia got caught with her brother-in-laws brother in her bedroom and her unstable half-brother Erik made a great spectable of everything

@robinbaum-hn2pc 6 ай бұрын

Dudley, Elizabeth seemed to like his company the most. I would love to speculate about what history would have been like 💕🍾🥂

@ssg8051 6 ай бұрын

All evidence seems to indicate that Elizabeth was extraordinarily shrewd----certainly as related to the implications of marriage for a female monarch. Many thanks for another intriguing and wonderfully presented video. Cheers, Ardith

@pennyatkinson5740 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Dr Kat. If Elizabeth had married Dudley,do you think it would have set a precedent for future monarchs (ie marrying " lower placed"nobles .)?? The Kings and Queens of England might have been saved a lot of heartache (as in the case of our current monarch and perhaps Queen Victoria and Lord Melbourne?).❤️💙❤️‍🩹👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨

@ireneford5722 6 ай бұрын

I learnt so much more about her suitors.

@cosgroveshepherd191 5 ай бұрын

William Pickering or Froggie would have made good consorts. Ivan the Terrible maybe less so. But I do wonder what happened to Thomas Seymour's daughter by Catherine Parr.

@ameryek.9607 6 ай бұрын

Hello Dr Kat, please do an episode on the Marshalsea prison, in existence well before Q. Elizabeth I and holding Ben Johnson, George Wither, & etc. The second most important prison next to Tower of London, and of course continued on till Dickens' time with "Little Dorrit" fame, which put an end to the terrible abuses. Thanks from California

@Myke_OBrien 6 ай бұрын

Fascinating as always! I would have chosen Robert Dudley, as I suspect that he was Elizabeth’s one true love, though, of course, the suspicions surrounding the death of his first wife made that impossible. On the other hand, I doubt that she ever intended to marry: I honestly don’t think she wanted to let someone else rule in her place. 👰‍♀️

@truthseeker1954 6 ай бұрын

I can't help but think that Elizabeth I dodged so many bullets. Thank God!

@susanfisher606 6 ай бұрын

I think Robert Dudley was her “love-match” although I do not think it would have been a good choice. I feel Dudley would not have been able to let her rule and would have caused issues amongst the other nobles. I like the idea of Pickering. As another commenter suggested, I think he might have been content to support Elizabeth in her rule.

@tinacarlyle33 6 ай бұрын

Ive always thought the Duke of Anjou would be a good choice, they seemed friendly despite everything.

@sharonharris9782 6 ай бұрын

I think she definitely had an affection for him. Perhaps not in a romantic way,but an affection nonetheless

@bethwingfield6669 6 ай бұрын

How about a program on Wyatt's rebellion?

@BeeKool__113 6 ай бұрын

I know she has a video on Wyatt the elder. I could have sworn she did a presentation on Wyatt's Rebellion. I was trying to find the video and link it to you but I was unsuccessful in locating it.

@bethwingfield6669 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your help.

@JanetCowan 6 ай бұрын

If she hadn’t been Queen, I think Elizabeth might have wed Robert Dudley, but she knew marriage as Queen would have stripped her of the power she’d so carefully attained.

@Shane-Flanagan 6 ай бұрын

Very interesting. Thank you Dr Kat 💒 💍 So many choices for Elizabeth but maybe not all suitable. Elizabeth 1 and Ivan the Terrible. Could you imagine such a match 😳

@percyweasley9301 6 ай бұрын

What would have happened you think?

@CrazyArtistLady 6 ай бұрын

Great look at all E's hopefulls! ❤️💑💍👰‍♀️🤵‍♀️💒

@marcusfridh8489 6 ай бұрын

Can you blame them, after all she was a ginger.

@--enyo-- 6 ай бұрын

Why was Edward Courtenay such a big deal? A lot of people seemed to want to put him on the throne via marriage to Elizabeth I. I hadn’t even heard of him before, so it seemed a bit random.

@ReadingthePast 6 ай бұрын

He was a great great grandson of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville through a younger daughter. So he had royal blood and, thus, a claim but it came through a younger child and a female line which made it less pressing.

@victoriamarkos4100 6 ай бұрын

A great video, thanks Dr Kat. A marriage with Robert Dudley would have been less abrasive than one with a Roman Catholic, however his marital status precluded him from marriage. Elizabeth was uncommonly wise and prudent to not marry at all, however the Stuarts that replaced her were quite disastrous!! A shame that she left no heirs 😢

@pegsu6104 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for another excellent video! I think she would have married Dudley had it been anyway possible. Your videos have brought the past much closer to me and it's indeed easier now to see Elisabeth as a woman, the person behind the crown. Erik's xiii is the most familiar story to me. I have been to the castle rooms where he was kept with his lowborn wife Karin. It was said he had terrible rages and his wife was the only one able to calm him down. Probably not an easy fate for her either.

@elizabethraitanen5057 6 ай бұрын

I will add my voice to those who believe marriage wasn’t really a viable option for Elizabeth.👑

@nearlydied 6 ай бұрын

I'd like to imagine Elizabeth married to Ivan as a kind of royal power couple. If they could have found some way to value each other and work together, even if neither truly of the other as an equal, they would have been hell on wheels. Both had a strong streak of (often petty) cruelty and neither one was stupid. They could have made Eurasia a very interesting place to be during their lifetimes. In the fashion of the old curse, 'May you live in interesting times' sort of way.

@joanholg15 5 ай бұрын

I’d say Dudley if she was going to marry. It’s interesting she’d want to marry the frog as she was most likely past childbearing age. I can see why her advisors might not be keen for that match as it wouldn’t produce an heir & might give the French too much power in the English court. Of course, no one knew he would die in just a few years.

@neenareadsalot7563 6 ай бұрын

💍 Elizabeth’s single status was my favorite thing about her. Although, thought it must have been lonely for her. 💍

@bookaufman9643 6 ай бұрын

What was the difference in age between Elizabeth and Lettice? They definitely have a resemblance to each other.

@cardinalgin 6 ай бұрын

On a very cynical note😏, with hindsight I think the best political marriage would have been to François, Duke of Alençon, since : 1. it would have tightened England's links with France; 2. She perhaps would have produced an heir (if still able to conceive at 49) ; 3. Then losing her husband to sickness, therefore being able to solely rule England afterwards. 🤫

@Pauline-wu4ej 6 ай бұрын

Thank God she thought about her people first. Some of the suitors would have been disasterous.😲

@JCstrikesagain 6 ай бұрын

Such an interesting video. Honestly, I think if Elizabeth were to marry any of these men, it would have to be Robert Dudley. She truly loved him, and I believe he loved her to.

@anthonytroisi6682 3 ай бұрын

The ideal situation was the one Mary, Queen of Scots had. If Elizabeth had married a nobleman who provided her with an heir and then shortly died of natural causes after the heir's birth, Elizabeth would have an heir but would not have the bother of a husband who tried to muscle in on her power.