Two important corrections to the video. 1) You cannot use the on board 5v BEC for a video transmitter or camera. It's only for small things like receiver and GPS. 2) The default channel order is TAER. There is no need to go through the silly steps I did of trying to figure out the correct channel order. Just set it in your Mixer screen to 1=Throttle, 2=Aileron/Roll, 3=Elevator/Pitch, 4=Rudder/Yaw. This is a case where I was just over-thinking things.

I was lucky enough to just get the box of this FC. 😆

You can't say bye to Betaflight when you can't get a Kiss Ultra FC in the first place!

I haven't flown in two years but STILL enjoy watching these.

You should revisit this with a Kiss Ultra V2! I noticed in this video you used the V1 and it’s still good. But I believe the V2 flies much better, especially following the tuning guide in the wiki and on EBRFPV’s KZfaq for BL32 settings. V2 has H7 MCU, with IIM42652 gyro. Arguably the best FC for freestyle.

Long time Kiss user here...I have 3 ultras (2 analog, 1 digital), and a mini sitting in the box! I absolutely love how they fly, how reliable they are, how Alex and crew are constantly updating things for ALL ultra users, and how accommodating the discord is. Cheers pilots!

Wow right before the new ones are about to drop. Good timing.

I know there is a lot of hype around these boards right now, but I just have a hard time getting on board with something that is not open source AND appears to have supply chain issues. I also suspect 90+% if us won't be able to tell the difference between a KISS and BF board. I know Joshua has been trying to appeal to a larger audience lately, so maybe that's part of what is fueling this. Why not appeal to an extra 15% of the market? Just don't forget the other 85% of us (which I'm sure Joshua wouldn't do anyway).

"Hey I'm Joshua Bardwell and you're gonna see something you cant get today"

Joshua: I LOVE that you shared your tip that you use Power Point to create your wiring diagram!!! Of course! Why not, doesn't almost every Windows user have it? And what an elegant method it is indeed! I haven't finished watching your entire video (don't worry, I WILL go to the end), but 1) could you leave a comment in your text summary WHY the KISS system is better for your application than the hallowed Matek series of FCs? 2) most of us know you usually fly quads rather than fixed wing planes. Is your KISS configuration also applicable to fixed wing, with an analog camera? Please explain your answer in your accompaning text summary. Thanks for your commitment to our hobby. You are tactful, have a funny, wry sense of humor, give credit to others wherever it is due, and kind to everyone, newbies and detractors alike. Your fan. - Jim

I really have a love/hate relationship with KISS. I've bought almost 10 Kiss FC's, 5 - gen 1 kiss FC's and 5 gen 2 kiss FC's. I bought 4 kiss FC's at once in 2018 with the thought of conquering the KISS FC since it's SO touchy and burns out quickly!! I've had 3-4 burnout even before I got the FC soldered onto the board. The Kiss FC hates heat, so when you are soldering on the board, get quick and very careful. Even extra heat into the board or having your soldering iron slip, you can de-solder components on the board. Of the 5 KISS V2 FC's, two are on quads are almost working. One is working fine, flies great. The other the FC's compass seems to be doubled. If I rotate the quad 180 degress, the FC shows it going 360 degrees in KISS FC v2. Two would NOT boot up once I had them on boards but once I de-soldered the wires from the board, the KISS FC started working again. I've also emailed the KISS people are have received a response to my questions or be willing to replace my fried FC's. I've also had many problems with the KISS ESC's frying out quickly, after a couple flights. I would say to stay away from the KISS stuff. The FC's and ESC's have had major problems and I've heard from most people who use KISS that over half of the KISS products break almost right away, often before you had even used them once. If you do buy KISS products, make sure to buy them from someone who will let you returned or exchange the KISS products that break or show up DOA.

Watched whole video to see your flight. Hopefully next video we'll see your bird in action. Wish I had kept all my kiss stuff. Thank you for sharing 🙏👊👊

Your killing me smalls now it’s gonna be even harder to get 😂

The blue sticky stuff for connector was the most amazing hack, gonna try it next build!

Love the bot shirt! I set up my first drone today and have listened to your voice for many many hours, i will probably hear you talking in my dreams now haha

Today on Joshua Bardwell, how to stack gold bricks 🤣

Would suggest during continuity testing with a vista onboard to also test each separate ESC motor phase connection with either GND or the vista casing - if one motor screw or a stack/frame screw would be touching, the vista will blackout after arming. It's a simple test going over the 12 pads and can save a quad.

Joshua teaching kiss, is this real life? Hope I can get my hands on an ultra mini some day lol.

Great to see you at your best as usual.Thanks I needed that today.

I have about 15 to 20 quads built so far. At this point, I just build for the sake of creating something unique and beautiful. Never tried KISS though. I have my OG JB frame though with horned arms that I never built up. So on account of you teaching me how to wire up an fcfc ultra, im gunna put it in my JB frame with a Reaper 65a. Thanks JB! :)

As I know and read in many post from Alex on his Discord, you‘ve to use an extra 5V BEC if you got a 5V VTX. Onboard 5V BEC isn’t designed for such a current draw (RX, VTX and Cam)…

Awesome, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃 Looking forward to the flight video! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Your power leads are clear 😁 And omg there's a keyboard. I didn't know lmao 🤣

Thanks JB for taking the time to do this KISS ULTRA* tutorial! 👍.

Welcome to the kiss ultra club Joshua :-) Alexander has done a very very good FC ! I am very lucky to hat one and its flys amazing. 😍 He has also build some 20x20 mini :-)

Vista with supplied plug fits straight into the FC ser3, have to change pins. 🤙🏻

some say there are two boxes leaving a certain factory headed at different times to different locations sometime in the near future.... i have a source.... they say.... "I am Sparta!!!!" 300 and 300 moves faster than 600... f5... f5... f5.... f5....

You could run an analogue camera from a 5V out on the vtx if it has one (which the unify pro does). No more messy wires :)

11 months later and it's still not available anywhere...

I am very excited to see you on a episode of Linus Tech Tips. I know it's going to happen one day.

About the suggested wire set from RDQ, if I had a dollar for every time I cussed manufacturers for vinyl coated wires, I could buy a top notch prebuilt JB quad. Get em for your sanity!

Great video. Thank you. What about the compass? I have an GPS with compass and can't figure out where to connect the "DA" and "CL" wires on the Kiss ultra v2 FC 🤔

The kiss GUI still looks like the multiwii gui in 2014.

Wouldn't it be better to use the SER1 and SER3 connectors to connect the receiver and the nebula? There are both proper power supply and serial signals. In addition, it is easier to separate these elements when working on a drone.

I got a Mini from the Christmas Eve batch... and yep, after building maybe 30 quads over the past 4 years or so, I pick this FC to be the first quad that I totally bork the FC wiring harness and I blew up the Ultra... 😥😥

Hey Joshua did you end up making that video comparing Kiss Ultra Vs Fettec vs BF 4.3? That video would get all the clicks

I have this FC since November and this is the guide I’ve been waiting for 🙏🏻👍🏻

The reason why you don’t get consistent results at soldering is because you’re using a very high temperature and heating the pad to melt the solder with isn’t actually the best way since the most efficient way of transferring the heat to any surface that you’re going to solder to is by touching the pad and the tip at the same time with the soldering wire. I usually get better results by using the methods listed above.

Maybe I'll be ready to say goodbye to BF in 3 or 4 years when it might be possible to actually buy a KISS FC. 😆

Kiss V2 FC also works with BLHeli32. It's my current setup right now. I do have to use either Emuflight or Betaflight flight controller to configure the esc using BLheli32 software.

Hey @joshua bardwell I was told I don't need the current sensor wire and my esc has a current sensor pin, I know go to cc.

Hey, so what is better in Kiss than BF? I can't find out from this video... Seems like you are happy that is working, but still having some compatibility issues and trying to resolve it... (like rates)

"Big shot youtuber" lmaooooooo thanks for the video, as usual

What’s the reason video 2 is hidden?

Do a comparaison between fettec g4 and kiss ultra fc, with the exact same build

Just flew with a kiss ultra. Had quite a few bf quads. It really is that smooth. Default tune and it flew better than all my emu or bf quads ever.

I’m happy to see you in a Botgrinder shirt. I was a little bummed when I thought you guys weren’t boys anymore after the incident

It seems like similar steps to beta flight but what makes it daunting is it’s just new. I used to use old kiss gui with older builds. It worked. But I’ve grown fond of beta flight. Either way great content as usual.

any concerns wrapping Power and ground around Signal wires? should those be seperate twists?

I use kiss ultre v1 with foxeer 65a ESC. The connection cable should be correct because the ESC self-test sound sounded 5 times. But the ESC cannot be recognized in kiss gui. what do I do? please help me

Help ,kakutef4 v2.3 m5 vs m6 output for inav

can i use solder pads for motor 123 and 4 or is it just for 5678

Do some escs have built in current sensors. Mine does not and I'm not using analog but I need to wire this correct?

Well, all be back in 1-2 years 😅

When it breaks you can go back to betaflight lol

hy Joshua Greetings my name is Pablo, I downloaded the kiss configurator and fc flasher does not come out. What can i do ? Only have esc flasher...

I have it, tested with the axis bb v3 and tmotor f3 f55 pro|| . Nothing special 🫣 , but yeah now it has prearm with the last update 😅 Bf 4.3 fly’s good if I compare it to this fc that took me 5 months to have one … everything is based on finger’s that comands that drone 🙌

Black tape? White wires? This cannot be a JB build! Heresy! Looking forward to seeing the flight test, is it as good as the hype???

I'm still using my kiss v1.01 fc and 24amp escs, lol

What if we have old drone with esc's on the arms ? The motor wires go to the littler esc and then 5v hooks on it ?

Nothing flys better 👌

Trying to flash to update just came out today an im getting no response from bootloader. When I originally got the ultra everything went fine flashing now I'm lost. Even manually put in dfu with boot button same thing

great video, thanks

0:57 do I really have to hold your hand? I'm a big boy now. 😜

No channel re-mapping? How convenient!

Awesomely informative as they always are but I have one question I'm using a R12DS radio link receiver and I believe it is an S bus But I would like a confirmation on that

Thanks 🤗

I hate the silders in betaflight the 4.2.11 i was hsppy with but still to much change. parameters, functions etc,thsts another thing help sold me on the ultra. I csn care less about black box so thst dont bother me.the ultra is streamline an no i never flown anything kiss till the ultra. The m3 mount judt file them out for the gummies i did on 3rd spex ultra fc conversion an didnt feel any difference then the impulserc things.i like them alot but ssme want my stsck closer csuse i to my stacks with pyrodrone board thingy thinks is a Isolation 30 ×30 made just like 30x 30 to 20 x 20 .but anyway i do thst so the starp on my apexs dont slide across/ touch fc at all an hold stsrp in-between the top plate sn the isolation board.good video but over hoe long did u reslly fly it b4 making the video? I flew for a month 10to 18 packs everyday i could b4 i made up my mind about the full switch to ultras an got my v2 ultras.at 1st it was just me having to know for myself how it felt an thsts all it took

its a boutique product and always will be. It can never be a replacement for betalight. The dev has stated he has no interest in increasing production and tells you to invent your own flight controller when you ask him why he isnt interested in such things, so none of this matters. you will never be able to get your hands on enough to run a fleet. hard pass on getting into that ecosystem if I cant put it in all my quads (at least three five inch). might as well make a video about how great the hope diamond is.

I dont know if you would be up for it or have the parts, but a full fettec g4 build with fettec esc set up especially the setting in the fettec configurator for the esc. Wtf is trapezoidal

Great video thank u.

why does the esc CUR go to the FCFC CC ? CC is for camera control isnt it ?

Love the cable sets makes life so easy but some cables are so long that's a bit annoying I may just try my first kiss fc.

Joshua we alslo need to see GPS setup and how it reacts on GPS rescue mode as on failsafe too...

Any insider info on when the xilo drone bundle might be back in stock at getfpv? (analog one)

But 4.3 on a RADIX is so freaking AMAZING!!

So Steele was right all along about Kiss being best 🤯

Oh nice, learning to setup something that does not exist.. exciting... I guess

Nah fam..how can you replace something commonly available for something unobtainable?

Wating for the test/ Thanks

Wow a 30+ minutes of healthy sleep, thank you Joshua

Never used. Any shitty (not focused, multi interfaces, lacking ergonomics) interface is to be abandoned. That is why I never used beta flight. Any example of well done interface - check this for Eagle-Tree.

FPV is not a crime

i know this is a little off topic, but have you experienced any issues with USB controllers in Windows 11? I am having alot of trouble flashing firmware ever since my computer switched over to 11 and I'm wondering if thats the issue? I have no problems with connecting my FC, but in DFU mode I am unable to flash and the configurator lists USB error as the problem. Tried Zadig (doesnt actually update), ImpulseRC fixer, and updated the VCP drivers... no bueno. Is this a windows 11 thing, or am I a screwup?

Kiss ultra > g4 fettec?

"What's wrong with powerpoint?" -Me, being old

Can i use this like on cinewhoop?

How many layers is that FC routed on?

I didn't know that powerpoint was so user friendly.

Is blue tack conductive? I thought about using it to hold an elrs rx to a nano quad. The black 3m tape does not hold it well as it is 10mmx10mm. What would you use? Hot glue?

Miss spelling in title. ;)

I'm a beginner and I'm not sure if I should go with Betaflight or Kiss. Any recommendations?

Can someone tell me WHY I would want to have KISS and the matching FC? Thank you!

Who is the JB of PCP air rifles?

But what's actually good about KISS??

Definitely gonna watch this soon as off work! Yes I'm ready and heard about this on rotor riot. Betafiight had got way to out there for people that just wanna fly. Gonna look into this switch! Firmware looks more user friendly! Not sure if you said is this same wiring for blheli-s esc to?

Just don't fly around the KISS flight performance issues please. 1. throbbles 2. overshooting (hard to see without logging ... so maybe not a big) 3. drift on throttle chops 4. bent prop tolerance 5. in NO UNIVERSE is smoother (motor outputs are choppy as heck) I struggle to understand how it is simpler and easier (setup or having fly as well as BF, Emu or iNAV). Everyone gives KISS a pass for some reason. Like remapping your TX inputs. In open-source that takes 1 second in the firmware. Giving a pass is nice and all, but then folks pay more $$ for something that flies worse, is harder to tune, can be confusing to setup (less flexible), and is less flexible in general, etc... It devalues all the hard work folks have put into solving these things and is OBJECTIVELY better firmware for free (open-source). And I don't just mean just BF. iNAV and Emu too. [p.s. I'm sorry Alex if you see this one. :-/ It pains me to harp on this, but it needs to be said I feel (right or wrong). :-( ].

Does it work on ibus? Please does it work on ibus?

Hi! Elrs receivers can be put together with that FC? Thanks

If it came in a speedy bee type module