Two important corrections to the video. 1) You cannot use the on board 5v BEC for a video transmitter or camera. It's only for small things like receiver and GPS. 2) The default channel order is TAER. There is no need to go through the silly steps I did of trying to figure out the correct channel order. Just set it in your Mixer screen to 1=Throttle, 2=Aileron/Roll, 3=Elevator/Pitch, 4=Rudder/Yaw. This is a case where I was just over-thinking things.
@10fantic2 жыл бұрын
Also you should in your review video include the fact that the last few FW updates like B25/B26 have some cool new features just added. Alex is adding new stuff and making bug fixes nearly everyday it’s insane!
@SmudgeFPV2 жыл бұрын
don't use buzzer with lippo to connect 5v pad, use ext BEC
@airheadbit19842 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Edge also works, it is now chrome based.
@JustinDrones2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to just get the box of this FC. 😆
@DoctorrMetal2 жыл бұрын
?🥴
@jaredmende36412 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorrMetal How did You accomplish even that!!!!
@baggszilla2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@JustinDrones2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredmende3641 phantom FPV hooked me me up with some parts and used the ultra box.
@AlvinYeoh2 жыл бұрын
You can't say bye to Betaflight when you can't get a Kiss Ultra FC in the first place!
@ofiasdfnosdf2 жыл бұрын
I haven't flown in two years but STILL enjoy watching these.
@JDOGFPV78 ай бұрын
You should revisit this with a Kiss Ultra V2! I noticed in this video you used the V1 and it’s still good. But I believe the V2 flies much better, especially following the tuning guide in the wiki and on EBRFPV’s KZfaq for BL32 settings. V2 has H7 MCU, with IIM42652 gyro. Arguably the best FC for freestyle.
@blackiechan882 жыл бұрын
Long time Kiss user here...I have 3 ultras (2 analog, 1 digital), and a mini sitting in the box! I absolutely love how they fly, how reliable they are, how Alex and crew are constantly updating things for ALL ultra users, and how accommodating the discord is. Cheers pilots!
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@Captain_Flynt Same. Just different FC, FIRMWARE and OSD. ;)
@SmudgeFPV2 жыл бұрын
fuck you! why you have 4 ultra? sold to me 1 please, lol
@kwadupfpv29712 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by a "digital" Kiss FC Ultra?
@cossi_2 жыл бұрын
@@kwadupfpv2971 dji
@blackiechan882 жыл бұрын
@Memer Dreamer sorry it took me a bit to respond. You asked a great question. I've actually never had a flight controller fail on me, on any rig, plane or quad, ever. But the reason I love the Kiss, and specifically the Ultra, is i really feel like how they have always been a "install and rip" type FC. BF on the other hand has always felt like a rabbit hole (IMO) when it comes to getting settings/tunes right. KISS holds true to its name and it has always been super simple for me. And when you have a dedicated community making moves like we are seeing with the ultra, im excited for what's to come. Keep flyin man, it's the fucking best! 💪🏽
@skyweaver31992 жыл бұрын
Wow right before the new ones are about to drop. Good timing.
@ptuxbury2 жыл бұрын
I know there is a lot of hype around these boards right now, but I just have a hard time getting on board with something that is not open source AND appears to have supply chain issues. I also suspect 90+% if us won't be able to tell the difference between a KISS and BF board. I know Joshua has been trying to appeal to a larger audience lately, so maybe that's part of what is fueling this. Why not appeal to an extra 15% of the market? Just don't forget the other 85% of us (which I'm sure Joshua wouldn't do anyway).
@uavtech2 жыл бұрын
hype to get to features and performance that open-source had 2 years ago. 🤔
@raphaelc27282 жыл бұрын
@@uavtech i believe the best part of kiss ultra is if you are flying analog. fedorov really did an awesome work on the OSD.
@nandakoryaaa14012 жыл бұрын
And why the hype? I did not see anything special.
@ctlaltdrone62982 жыл бұрын
"Hey I'm Joshua Bardwell and you're gonna see something you cant get today"
@jamesceastep88742 жыл бұрын
Joshua: I LOVE that you shared your tip that you use Power Point to create your wiring diagram!!! Of course! Why not, doesn't almost every Windows user have it? And what an elegant method it is indeed! I haven't finished watching your entire video (don't worry, I WILL go to the end), but 1) could you leave a comment in your text summary WHY the KISS system is better for your application than the hallowed Matek series of FCs? 2) most of us know you usually fly quads rather than fixed wing planes. Is your KISS configuration also applicable to fixed wing, with an analog camera? Please explain your answer in your accompaning text summary. Thanks for your commitment to our hobby. You are tactful, have a funny, wry sense of humor, give credit to others wherever it is due, and kind to everyone, newbies and detractors alike. Your fan. - Jim
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
Ultra doesn't support fixed wings. I like fixed wings... So. Who knows what happens later! :)
@eder00097 ай бұрын
I really have a love/hate relationship with KISS. I've bought almost 10 Kiss FC's, 5 - gen 1 kiss FC's and 5 gen 2 kiss FC's. I bought 4 kiss FC's at once in 2018 with the thought of conquering the KISS FC since it's SO touchy and burns out quickly!! I've had 3-4 burnout even before I got the FC soldered onto the board. The Kiss FC hates heat, so when you are soldering on the board, get quick and very careful. Even extra heat into the board or having your soldering iron slip, you can de-solder components on the board. Of the 5 KISS V2 FC's, two are on quads are almost working. One is working fine, flies great. The other the FC's compass seems to be doubled. If I rotate the quad 180 degress, the FC shows it going 360 degrees in KISS FC v2. Two would NOT boot up once I had them on boards but once I de-soldered the wires from the board, the KISS FC started working again. I've also emailed the KISS people are have received a response to my questions or be willing to replace my fried FC's. I've also had many problems with the KISS ESC's frying out quickly, after a couple flights. I would say to stay away from the KISS stuff. The FC's and ESC's have had major problems and I've heard from most people who use KISS that over half of the KISS products break almost right away, often before you had even used them once. If you do buy KISS products, make sure to buy them from someone who will let you returned or exchange the KISS products that break or show up DOA.
@jesselopezdrones43962 жыл бұрын
Watched whole video to see your flight. Hopefully next video we'll see your bird in action. Wish I had kept all my kiss stuff. Thank you for sharing 🙏👊👊
@NJ_Drone_Service2 жыл бұрын
Your killing me smalls now it’s gonna be even harder to get 😂
@splif77732 жыл бұрын
The blue sticky stuff for connector was the most amazing hack, gonna try it next build!
@srmxl2 жыл бұрын
Love the bot shirt! I set up my first drone today and have listened to your voice for many many hours, i will probably hear you talking in my dreams now haha
@cinemoriahFPV2 жыл бұрын
Today on Joshua Bardwell, how to stack gold bricks 🤣
@tomsmellinckx29852 жыл бұрын
Would suggest during continuity testing with a vista onboard to also test each separate ESC motor phase connection with either GND or the vista casing - if one motor screw or a stack/frame screw would be touching, the vista will blackout after arming. It's a simple test going over the 12 pads and can save a quad.
@divingfalconfpv46022 жыл бұрын
😳
@MrSabram072 жыл бұрын
I'd love to learn how to do this exactly, is there any place I can get exact instructions on how to do that?
@dominicklittle98282 жыл бұрын
@@MrSabram07 all you need is a multimeter and put it on continuity and listen for the beeps when you touch the pads and stuff. i wouldnt do it personally. if all your stuff is where its supposed to be its not worth the effort. just youtube multimeter continuity testing
@WKfpv2 жыл бұрын
Joshua teaching kiss, is this real life? Hope I can get my hands on an ultra mini some day lol.
@bluevisionfpv88522 жыл бұрын
Great to see you at your best as usual.Thanks I needed that today.
@dinosabic53839 ай бұрын
I have about 15 to 20 quads built so far. At this point, I just build for the sake of creating something unique and beautiful. Never tried KISS though. I have my OG JB frame though with horned arms that I never built up. So on account of you teaching me how to wire up an fcfc ultra, im gunna put it in my JB frame with a Reaper 65a. Thanks JB! :)
@lauschs2 жыл бұрын
As I know and read in many post from Alex on his Discord, you‘ve to use an extra 5V BEC if you got a 5V VTX. Onboard 5V BEC isn’t designed for such a current draw (RX, VTX and Cam)…
@MCsCreations2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃 Looking forward to the flight video! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@divingfalconfpv46022 жыл бұрын
Your power leads are clear 😁 And omg there's a keyboard. I didn't know lmao 🤣
@cheechfpv2 жыл бұрын
Thanks JB for taking the time to do this KISS ULTRA* tutorial! 👍.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
Not kiss.. Kiss ULTRA :) Cool hah?
@cheechfpv2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 Corrected with CAPS 😆
@plexflymate14782 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the kiss ultra club Joshua :-) Alexander has done a very very good FC ! I am very lucky to hat one and its flys amazing. 😍 He has also build some 20x20 mini :-)
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mini came out so nice... I think its smallest 2020 fc right now. Well, sure smallest H7 ;)
@BigWillieFPV2 жыл бұрын
Vista with supplied plug fits straight into the FC ser3, have to change pins. 🤙🏻
@RCRitterFPV2 жыл бұрын
some say there are two boxes leaving a certain factory headed at different times to different locations sometime in the near future.... i have a source.... they say.... "I am Sparta!!!!" 300 and 300 moves faster than 600... f5... f5... f5.... f5....
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
On the way to pilot, 300 + 300 goes faster then 600.... because while u wait for 600, 300 already flying ;)
@jamesnotarianni91902 жыл бұрын
You could run an analogue camera from a 5V out on the vtx if it has one (which the unify pro does). No more messy wires :)
@man0mule Жыл бұрын
11 months later and it's still not available anywhere...
@DanJonesShow2 жыл бұрын
I am very excited to see you on a episode of Linus Tech Tips. I know it's going to happen one day.
@wrstew12722 жыл бұрын
About the suggested wire set from RDQ, if I had a dollar for every time I cussed manufacturers for vinyl coated wires, I could buy a top notch prebuilt JB quad. Get em for your sanity!
@jsflood9 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. What about the compass? I have an GPS with compass and can't figure out where to connect the "DA" and "CL" wires on the Kiss ultra v2 FC 🤔
@mihdd2 жыл бұрын
The kiss GUI still looks like the multiwii gui in 2014.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
And your point is?
@chrishiggins74752 жыл бұрын
Andstill works and fly's amazing 💪
@uavtech2 жыл бұрын
2014 it was so good everyone changed it for not good reason. Like the steam engine. Bastards.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@uavtech totally! ;)
@mihdd2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 Every time I see the kiss gui, I miss the fast readable code of multiwii. KISS is pretty useless for me not being open source. Greetings
@MarcinFlorkiewicz2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be better to use the SER1 and SER3 connectors to connect the receiver and the nebula? There are both proper power supply and serial signals. In addition, it is easier to separate these elements when working on a drone.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
That is actually easiest way to run digital on KISS/ULTRA.
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
I just would always rather solder than build a connector. Mostly. Sometimes.
@Shooter_FPV2 жыл бұрын
I got a Mini from the Christmas Eve batch... and yep, after building maybe 30 quads over the past 4 years or so, I pick this FC to be the first quad that I totally bork the FC wiring harness and I blew up the Ultra... 😥😥
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
:(
@STEDDiEFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua did you end up making that video comparing Kiss Ultra Vs Fettec vs BF 4.3? That video would get all the clicks
@SerJG2 жыл бұрын
I have this FC since November and this is the guide I’ve been waiting for 🙏🏻👍🏻
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@SerJG2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 winter started, the weather got nasty, subzero C temperature, etc. no rush to finish this build. + I had some time to think which frame to buy for this FC :) this will be my second build; afraid to mess it up, and this guide looks very useful for me.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@SerJG Few things can be done easier. Get on discord. We also have WIKI.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
discord.gg/kissultra
@SerJG2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 thank you, I will
@ramus92 жыл бұрын
The reason why you don’t get consistent results at soldering is because you’re using a very high temperature and heating the pad to melt the solder with isn’t actually the best way since the most efficient way of transferring the heat to any surface that you’re going to solder to is by touching the pad and the tip at the same time with the soldering wire. I usually get better results by using the methods listed above.
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
You can watch my 40 minute soldering tutorial if you want to know more about how I do it. I think you're referring to wetting the top with solder so heat transfers to the pad. I definitely do that. Waiting for a dry pad to take solder is a mistake.
@edclevel402 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll be ready to say goodbye to BF in 3 or 4 years when it might be possible to actually buy a KISS FC. 😆
@ronneilcamara50712 жыл бұрын
Kiss V2 FC also works with BLHeli32. It's my current setup right now. I do have to use either Emuflight or Betaflight flight controller to configure the esc using BLheli32 software.
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
You can use blheli with any ESC, but KISS v2 does not allow blheli passthrough I'm pretty sure. That's what I was saying in this video.
@ronneilcamara50712 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Yes, you are correct there. I'd like to clarify that I was just saying it is my current setup. If my english sounded like I was correcting you. I'm sorry but trust me, I didn't mean that way. And yes, kiss v2 does not support passthrough which is why I mentioned I used either emuflight or bf flight controllers to configure the blheli32 esc. Thank you.
@kennykobi2 жыл бұрын
Hey @joshua bardwell I was told I don't need the current sensor wire and my esc has a current sensor pin, I know go to cc.
@marcino.33612 жыл бұрын
Hey, so what is better in Kiss than BF? I can't find out from this video... Seems like you are happy that is working, but still having some compatibility issues and trying to resolve it... (like rates)
@CGKFPV2 жыл бұрын
"Big shot youtuber" lmaooooooo thanks for the video, as usual
@itsbryan4212 жыл бұрын
What’s the reason video 2 is hidden?
@antoinedebonnieres27282 жыл бұрын
Do a comparaison between fettec g4 and kiss ultra fc, with the exact same build
@cine-a-mitch83422 жыл бұрын
Just flew with a kiss ultra. Had quite a few bf quads. It really is that smooth. Default tune and it flew better than all my emu or bf quads ever.
@uavtech2 жыл бұрын
U should log the KISS motor commands one time. It is not smooth commands.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@uavtech Its about FLYING... not about LOGS :)
@uavtech2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 right, but there is no universe where stepped or spiky motor commands makes anything smoother. If a quad is flying smooth, it is inspite of how KISS is sends motor commands, not because of it. That same quad will be as smooth or smoother on iNAV, Emu, BF or FalcoX.
@lordhenrix15102 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to see you in a Botgrinder shirt. I was a little bummed when I thought you guys weren’t boys anymore after the incident
@ojkolsrud12 жыл бұрын
Incident?
@lordhenrix15102 жыл бұрын
@@ojkolsrud1 basically bots name wasn’t on IMDb for flowstate. But they talked it I on a live I think last month or the month before
@proxemiafpv57462 жыл бұрын
It seems like similar steps to beta flight but what makes it daunting is it’s just new. I used to use old kiss gui with older builds. It worked. But I’ve grown fond of beta flight. Either way great content as usual.
@RCRitterFPV2 жыл бұрын
any concerns wrapping Power and ground around Signal wires? should those be seperate twists?
@user-me4hx4pl6w6 ай бұрын
I use kiss ultre v1 with foxeer 65a ESC. The connection cable should be correct because the ESC self-test sound sounded 5 times. But the ESC cannot be recognized in kiss gui. what do I do? please help me
@ARM_TECH2 жыл бұрын
Help ,kakutef4 v2.3 m5 vs m6 output for inav
@itstime69218 ай бұрын
can i use solder pads for motor 123 and 4 or is it just for 5678
@kennykobi Жыл бұрын
Do some escs have built in current sensors. Mine does not and I'm not using analog but I need to wire this correct?
@nicholasnielson95382 жыл бұрын
Well, all be back in 1-2 years 😅
@ryan395842 жыл бұрын
When it breaks you can go back to betaflight lol
@darumaprb85002 жыл бұрын
hy Joshua Greetings my name is Pablo, I downloaded the kiss configurator and fc flasher does not come out. What can i do ? Only have esc flasher...
@liviolucaci2 жыл бұрын
I have it, tested with the axis bb v3 and tmotor f3 f55 pro|| . Nothing special 🫣 , but yeah now it has prearm with the last update 😅 Bf 4.3 fly’s good if I compare it to this fc that took me 5 months to have one … everything is based on finger’s that comands that drone 🙌
@wrstew12722 жыл бұрын
Black tape? White wires? This cannot be a JB build! Heresy! Looking forward to seeing the flight test, is it as good as the hype???
@Brighton-Abean Жыл бұрын
I'm still using my kiss v1.01 fc and 24amp escs, lol
@rocketshipsandrobotsinterg21842 жыл бұрын
What if we have old drone with esc's on the arms ? The motor wires go to the littler esc and then 5v hooks on it ?
@tjburke792 жыл бұрын
Nothing flys better 👌
@neon7fpv799 Жыл бұрын
Trying to flash to update just came out today an im getting no response from bootloader. When I originally got the ultra everything went fine flashing now I'm lost. Even manually put in dfu with boot button same thing
@neon7fpv799 Жыл бұрын
I just got it with web gui. I was trying the web gui an the download gui they updated today. It's really a finicky fc from my dealings with it since I got it few weeks ago.
@simonkrause95502 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks
@SunriseWaterMedia2 жыл бұрын
0:57 do I really have to hold your hand? I'm a big boy now. 😜
@notsure15022 жыл бұрын
No channel re-mapping? How convenient!
@wallywhitefpv2 жыл бұрын
Awesomely informative as they always are but I have one question I'm using a R12DS radio link receiver and I believe it is an S bus But I would like a confirmation on that
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
The RD12S seems to output SBUS on output number 11.
@wallywhitefpv2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks a lot man I've been using radio link the entire time I had FPV it's a little strange but I really enjoy it And it is super easy to bind things together
@v2rfpv3562 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🤗
@neon7fpv7997 ай бұрын
I hate the silders in betaflight the 4.2.11 i was hsppy with but still to much change. parameters, functions etc,thsts another thing help sold me on the ultra. I csn care less about black box so thst dont bother me.the ultra is streamline an no i never flown anything kiss till the ultra. The m3 mount judt file them out for the gummies i did on 3rd spex ultra fc conversion an didnt feel any difference then the impulserc things.i like them alot but ssme want my stsck closer csuse i to my stacks with pyrodrone board thingy thinks is a Isolation 30 ×30 made just like 30x 30 to 20 x 20 .but anyway i do thst so the starp on my apexs dont slide across/ touch fc at all an hold stsrp in-between the top plate sn the isolation board.good video but over hoe long did u reslly fly it b4 making the video? I flew for a month 10to 18 packs everyday i could b4 i made up my mind about the full switch to ultras an got my v2 ultras.at 1st it was just me having to know for myself how it felt an thsts all it took
@mouseFPV2 жыл бұрын
its a boutique product and always will be. It can never be a replacement for betalight. The dev has stated he has no interest in increasing production and tells you to invent your own flight controller when you ask him why he isnt interested in such things, so none of this matters. you will never be able to get your hands on enough to run a fleet. hard pass on getting into that ecosystem if I cant put it in all my quads (at least three five inch). might as well make a video about how great the hope diamond is.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have 2000 pilots that i do excellent support then 10000 i don't give a rats ass. You get the idea.
@mouseFPV2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 exactly my point. That's basically the definition of a boutique product.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@mouseFPV whatever you call it. it is not ment to be replacement to anything.
@dazzdoodlzfpv10202 жыл бұрын
I dont know if you would be up for it or have the parts, but a full fettec g4 build with fettec esc set up especially the setting in the fettec configurator for the esc. Wtf is trapezoidal
why does the esc CUR go to the FCFC CC ? CC is for camera control isnt it ?
@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын
That's just how they've set it up.
@GeFpv Жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell ok... i'll do it...thanks Joshua to learn us some things everyday :) kiss (not ultra) from France
@kanenstuff2 жыл бұрын
Love the cable sets makes life so easy but some cables are so long that's a bit annoying I may just try my first kiss fc.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
Ultra comes with 2 cables. 5cm each. JUST enough to connect practically any esc without spaghetty. :)
@georgezoup2 жыл бұрын
Joshua we alslo need to see GPS setup and how it reacts on GPS rescue mode as on failsafe too...
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
What to setup? solder gps to serial. set serial as GPS. assign RTH switch and [x] RTH on Failsafe. AND ITS DONE. ;)
@angrypickle2 жыл бұрын
Any insider info on when the xilo drone bundle might be back in stock at getfpv? (analog one)
@brendanzaebst90112 жыл бұрын
But 4.3 on a RADIX is so freaking AMAZING!!
@xxxenricop2 жыл бұрын
So Steele was right all along about Kiss being best 🤯
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how you got that from this video but whatever makes you happy. Even if he was right, Kiss Ultra doesn't fly anything like Kiss V2 that Steele flew.
@mathieusan2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice, learning to setup something that does not exist.. exciting... I guess
@fly_n_fitter8862 жыл бұрын
Nah fam..how can you replace something commonly available for something unobtainable?
@PaulSokolov2 жыл бұрын
Wating for the test/ Thanks
@nandakoryaaa14012 жыл бұрын
Wow a 30+ minutes of healthy sleep, thank you Joshua
@adlapl2 жыл бұрын
Never used. Any shitty (not focused, multi interfaces, lacking ergonomics) interface is to be abandoned. That is why I never used beta flight. Any example of well done interface - check this for Eagle-Tree.
@ojkolsrud12 жыл бұрын
You just like it old looking. Eagle-Tree seems to also have tabs and panes. A black background with yellow sliders isn't all that different from gray. Also - why would you abandon excellent firmware because of how the *configurator* works? The time you spend in the configurator throughout a quad's life, versus flying and everything else, is surely about 1 to 500. You really shouldn't *not* use Kiss or Betaflight just because the config isn't to your liking. That's just stupid, man.
@YoYoYo2 жыл бұрын
I preffer them to fly better. GUI is not important even if it's designed in MS Paing.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
I love ET. Pity they are GONE.
@uavbuzz31192 жыл бұрын
FPV is not a crime
@yuthokr012 жыл бұрын
i know this is a little off topic, but have you experienced any issues with USB controllers in Windows 11? I am having alot of trouble flashing firmware ever since my computer switched over to 11 and I'm wondering if thats the issue? I have no problems with connecting my FC, but in DFU mode I am unable to flash and the configurator lists USB error as the problem. Tried Zadig (doesnt actually update), ImpulseRC fixer, and updated the VCP drivers... no bueno. Is this a windows 11 thing, or am I a screwup?
@peteyh4152 жыл бұрын
Kiss ultra > g4 fettec?
@uavtech2 жыл бұрын
$50 if you log A-B they are the same.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@uavtech You are wrong.
@peteyh4152 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 what’s the difference my brother
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@peteyh415 Different cpu. different firmware. different osd. and so on.
@peteyh4152 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 thanks! Now the million dollar question where can I get one
@veizour2 жыл бұрын
"What's wrong with powerpoint?" -Me, being old
@kadyo_diy2 жыл бұрын
Can i use this like on cinewhoop?
@victorschlim46442 жыл бұрын
How many layers is that FC routed on?
@BBFPV2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that powerpoint was so user friendly.
@mschaffer28262 жыл бұрын
Is blue tack conductive? I thought about using it to hold an elrs rx to a nano quad. The black 3m tape does not hold it well as it is 10mmx10mm. What would you use? Hot glue?
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
Blue-tack is not a permanent adhesive. It is not conductive as far as I know, but you wouldn't use it for permanent mounting,
@mschaffer28262 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you. I will come up with a different method of mounting it. Do you have a better solution?
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
Scotch extreme mounting tape.
@mschaffer28262 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you
@hugocatbro132 жыл бұрын
Miss spelling in title. ;)
@customcreations25962 жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner and I'm not sure if I should go with Betaflight or Kiss. Any recommendations?
@bunk42 жыл бұрын
Betaflight might be easier to get and there are hundreds of tutorials for the software. FYI i haven't done a ton of research
@BetterIntegra2 жыл бұрын
Pros might transition to kiss for pro reasons but betaflight is for professionals
@tjburke792 жыл бұрын
Fly KISS 👍
@jpaul85892 жыл бұрын
I’m a KISS pilot and I recommend Betaflight if you want to be able to dive deep into all the bells and whistles available on BF controllers that KISS fc’s don’t have. If your aim is simply be a scary smooth pilot and don’t give a damn about anything but slamming the sticks on full send - go with KISS. They’re both the best at what they do.
@samsam182002 жыл бұрын
I started with KISS in 2017, and it's awesome. But I'm about to build my first custom gucci BF quad. I would say you really can't go wrong with either, but I can say that kiss is more tailored to buttery smooth freestyle and BF is great for both freestyle and racing.
@lukaslanger50682 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me WHY I would want to have KISS and the matching FC? Thank you!
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
Some people feel it flies way better.
@lukaslanger50682 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you! So that would just come down to different mathematical models, calculation loop time and just some different software design choices? Is there any group or style of flying which it fits best? Like is it better for freestyle/racing etc.? Tank you again :)
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@YoYoYo G4 is not ULTRA. Different cpu, different code.
@RickLaBanca2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell but what have you experienced? It seems to me it’s gotta be a subtle difference or we’d have a lot more kiss popularity? Maybe only better if you’re a super pilot?
@pollabotha22812 жыл бұрын
Who is the JB of PCP air rifles?
@VerixLin2 жыл бұрын
But what's actually good about KISS??
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
Some people like how it flies.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
Pretty much plug and fly :)
@GrimSpeedFPV2 жыл бұрын
Definitely gonna watch this soon as off work! Yes I'm ready and heard about this on rotor riot. Betafiight had got way to out there for people that just wanna fly. Gonna look into this switch! Firmware looks more user friendly! Not sure if you said is this same wiring for blheli-s esc to?
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
i dont recommend using blhelis... blheli32... dshot2400!
@richardheedfpv96262 жыл бұрын
Betaflight is simple. Put 4.3 on it and fly mate.
@GrimSpeedFPV2 жыл бұрын
Betafiight is good for if you want to get quad tuned perfectly in depth. Emu flight is simple! I'm digging this kiss option cause looks more easy settings! Don't want to spend all summer trying to figure out why's want to rip packs 😁
@uavtech2 жыл бұрын
Just don't fly around the KISS flight performance issues please. 1. throbbles 2. overshooting (hard to see without logging ... so maybe not a big) 3. drift on throttle chops 4. bent prop tolerance 5. in NO UNIVERSE is smoother (motor outputs are choppy as heck) I struggle to understand how it is simpler and easier (setup or having fly as well as BF, Emu or iNAV). Everyone gives KISS a pass for some reason. Like remapping your TX inputs. In open-source that takes 1 second in the firmware. Giving a pass is nice and all, but then folks pay more $$ for something that flies worse, is harder to tune, can be confusing to setup (less flexible), and is less flexible in general, etc... It devalues all the hard work folks have put into solving these things and is OBJECTIVELY better firmware for free (open-source). And I don't just mean just BF. iNAV and Emu too. [p.s. I'm sorry Alex if you see this one. :-/ It pains me to harp on this, but it needs to be said I feel (right or wrong). :-( ].
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
Sure mate, no problem. 1-4 improved ___ON ULTRA___ by far. 5 - why should i care? Btw... More expensive? cheapest H7 fc on RDQ costs 59... Most of them 79.... its more then ultra (57 usd) :)
@OnepackFpv2 жыл бұрын
Salty.
@uavtech2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 good to hear those are be recognized and worked on!! :-) I would knock out BLHeli pass-thru for an ease of use update and add a TX channel mapping drop-down. For #5 (why to care), stepped or spiked (if Setpoint Weight is not 0) motor commands does not promote smoothness and also wastes energy to heat. If smooth, it is inspite of how the pid loop commands the motor - not because of - and that is because folks motors are not updating fast enough. So if ULTRA firmware is updating, but G4 is not, that's a pretty easy result right there. Fettec is not advancing the FW to make it fly better. I thought ULTRA was more. Can't buy it anywhere. :-/ My bad and it is good to hear it is not a premium.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@uavtech Yes, recognised, and we spoke about it. I am fixing it in ULTRA. Plus i am adding some neat things like BRAKING factor. Not going to disclose what its doing though. :) ask pilots. Blheli32 PT is fully supported on ULTRA. Channel remapping, its legacy of KISS... TAERanis is the order - easy to remember. Not a problem for KISS ecosystem. Keep in mind, we run and recommend DS2400... For a REASON... Also, WHOLE IDEA to keep things SIMPLE. I know BF is like linux, but ULTRA is opposite. It hides complexity from the pilot. As much as it can.
@alexanderfedorov78902 жыл бұрын
@@uavtech G4 uses pretty old kiss code, which flying wise havent changed in last 2 years (you can check release notes)... Felix makes own firmware, but its in sooooo early stage, basically its G4 drivers code from kiss + pid controller. It will take some time to get it on ultra level feature wise, but i guess its easier when you saw once kiss code :)))) hahaha. So, you may say ULTRA is bleeding edge of kiss as we speak. And its still in development.
@kadyo_diy2 жыл бұрын
Does it work on ibus? Please does it work on ibus?
@eurico44202 жыл бұрын
Hi! Elrs receivers can be put together with that FC? Thanks