[REAL ATC] Student | SOLO | Pilot LANDS HIS CESSNA WITHOUT A WHEEL!

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@whyyuna69
@whyyuna69 3 жыл бұрын
legends say that the ATC and the flight instructor are still formulating a plan for the Cessna to land
@gonnfishy2987
@gonnfishy2987 3 жыл бұрын
BAM
@evensen007
@evensen007 2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@petersmith8134
@petersmith8134 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Very funny.
@mrdav1e
@mrdav1e 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, no doubt, student did a great job!!! I have one question, where the hec was his instructor? gosh! LOL.
@MarkJohnson-ou6xz
@MarkJohnson-ou6xz 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say but the controllers sound like idiots!
@JCON631
@JCON631 5 жыл бұрын
By the sound of it, the controllers sounded more freaked out than the poor kid missing his wheel.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 5 жыл бұрын
Same thought here ;)
@KingOfTheWorld462
@KingOfTheWorld462 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah ATC sounded panicked
@Diidou1214
@Diidou1214 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not a controller but imagine how frustrating this would be if you’re the ATC and you can’t do much to help this kid. They don’t want him to get hurt.
@6robertdavey
@6robertdavey 5 жыл бұрын
@@VASAviation They, possibly, were more aware of the seriousness and, possible consequences of the missing gear. Blissful ignorance on the students part.
@d_kortman
@d_kortman 5 жыл бұрын
Dylan hehe hello same name person. Anyways, sometimes controllers like this- especially at TRACONs- have supervisors and are really helpful in situations like these.
@agent1174
@agent1174 5 жыл бұрын
_Landing gear suddenly goes AWOL_ , _Gets bored waiting for help to arrive_ , _Searches youtube for landing without a wheel_ , _Finds Maggies video on VASAviation_ , "Ahh so that's how its done, I got this!"
@thomasbirkland2143
@thomasbirkland2143 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking!
@Cissy2cute
@Cissy2cute 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@pondartinc4002
@pondartinc4002 5 жыл бұрын
Orders gear and wheel from Amazon and they deliver to plane.
@Cissy2cute
@Cissy2cute 5 жыл бұрын
@@pondartinc4002 But only if he has Prime.
@SB-jj9kt
@SB-jj9kt 5 жыл бұрын
@@pondartinc4002 I think we finally found the use case for drone deliveries!
@redramage
@redramage 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: In the future he gets married to Captain Maggie and they raise a squad of daredevil test pilots.
@CraigFortune
@CraigFortune 5 жыл бұрын
Love this reference.
@scottycatman
@scottycatman 5 жыл бұрын
They'll be U2 pilots, if you've ever seen the landing gear on those
@Cissy2cute
@Cissy2cute 5 жыл бұрын
How cool would that be!
@drmayeda1930
@drmayeda1930 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottycatman I don't know if there are any U2 left. I think they were replaced by SR71's they are a lot faster. If anything, someone should be working on a SR71 variant as a drone with bigger faster engines. Something that can fly in international airspace.
@NewfyORE
@NewfyORE 5 жыл бұрын
drmayeda1 U-2’s are still on active duty.
@EHEHspotter
@EHEHspotter 5 жыл бұрын
wait for instructor...nah F it .... i'll land !! well done !!
@2012flightsimulator
@2012flightsimulator 5 жыл бұрын
Made my day hahaha
@Joshuaxiong2
@Joshuaxiong2 5 жыл бұрын
fifa 18 De gekste Ha.
@trd4d
@trd4d 5 жыл бұрын
This k he was concerned about fuel. Better to run out on final than in the pattern.
@geekytraveler5899
@geekytraveler5899 4 жыл бұрын
@@trd4d well, he actually said that aircraft functions more and more abnormally as well, so he might have been concerned about his ability to control aircraft in short future.
@alexspencer5971
@alexspencer5971 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@jodysin7
@jodysin7 5 жыл бұрын
I think the student thought that the airplane could be compromised and situation deteriorating. He probably made the best choice for the info that everyone had. He could have had more damage like an oil or fuel leak etc. He felt the airplane acting weird and gut feeling decided to land. Bravo kid, this will prepare him for a lifetime of flight.
@spyersecol0013
@spyersecol0013 5 жыл бұрын
The fuel is in the wings. Since this was a high wing plane I doubt any possibility for a fuel leak. As for oil leaks, the oil is in the engine in the front of the plane. Also a very highly unlikely scenario.
@txman201
@txman201 4 жыл бұрын
All that time he "didn't know what to do".....then suddenly he takes the option to land as if he knew how to handle it. It's most likely he lost his cool and dreamed the plane was acting differently than just being without that "wheel thingy". He certainly took a LONG time to shut down the engine! That should have been done immediately after ground contact. How the hell do you tear a wheel off a C172 and end up airborne, anyway???
@davep6977
@davep6977 4 жыл бұрын
what's the old saying. Any landing you can away from is a good landing
@nkill6
@nkill6 4 жыл бұрын
10 gallon is like 80lbs of gas not a who lot
@lemonator8813
@lemonator8813 3 жыл бұрын
@@nkill6 thats about 1 hour - 1 hour 15 minutes of flying in a C172
@jd_99
@jd_99 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. A student solo and he's left high and dry. Handled it like a boss, still maintains good radio discipline too.
@hardy2k11
@hardy2k11 3 жыл бұрын
Props to the CFI as well. The student is training him well
@gatolibero8329
@gatolibero8329 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding. I think he realized nobody was gonna be of much help.
@SWC44
@SWC44 2 жыл бұрын
jd, KUDO'S TO HIS CFI, DID A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!! YOU DID A SUPER JOB YOUNG MAN!!! BE PROUD OF YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!
@btbarr16
@btbarr16 3 ай бұрын
@@SWC44 You say that, but you're only seeing half the story. The wheel didn't fall off on its own. He hit an airfield sign trying to land in a cross wind on his first solo. Does a good instructor typically send up a student to do their first solo in a 15kt crosswind? What's worse is the wind was do to outflow from an isolated storm cloud to the west. One that was clearly dropping rain. If the instructor would have waited 30 minutes to send him up it would have been perfect conditions.
@OldStreetDoc
@OldStreetDoc 3 жыл бұрын
It REALLY bothers me how, because he’s a student solo, they’re assuming he cannot relay any information reliably. He sounds as if he is calm, cool, and working the problem. In my mind he’s the source of the only reliable information they have & ought to be utilized as one. He’s a student solo, but other than the fire fighters he sounds more calm than anyone. Other than whatever occurred to lose the left MLG… this young man did an OUTSTANDING job landing that aircraft safely. He didn’t wait for whatever help ‘might’ be on the way, he used his wits & the aircraft to effect one hell of an emergency landing.
@gillsejusbates6938
@gillsejusbates6938 2 жыл бұрын
same, ATC loses all respect after that 'he's unaware of his situation' line
@TheRealSovereignCitizens
@TheRealSovereignCitizens 2 жыл бұрын
My thought was could he not hear her calling his flight school wrong. Someone should have caught that even before a female said I don't think that's one of ours
@benbaldwin9181
@benbaldwin9181 2 жыл бұрын
As a current ATP student we get 41 hours before we solo and 4 more before the cross country so like it’s possible for us to have more hours then a private pilot
@telemundie
@telemundie Жыл бұрын
I thought they only questioned him on the fuel qty he was reporting, which I think is reasonable. Fuel gauges in old trainer aircraft as notoriously unreliable (and are only required to indicate empty correctly). I would also be pretty surprised/ skeptical if he had been sent up with 10 gallons of fuel on a student solo, most training flights are conducted with full tanks because the checklist rotate, climb, and best glide speeds are based on max gross weight. That said, totally agree that tower and ground didn't seem to be much of a resource here. If I were in this situation I would hope they could at least act as a calming voice to help me think through my plan. Instead they added anxiety and told him they didn't know what to do without getting his instructor on the line. Glad he decided to put it down.
@SEAAviator
@SEAAviator Жыл бұрын
@@benbaldwin9181 Damn 41 hours? I solo'd at 15. When do y'all normally get sent for the checkride?
@lipadier
@lipadier 5 жыл бұрын
GRD: "... he's a student solo so we aren't able to get that much information out of him... " - Probably not when you don't even ask him question like what his instructors phone number is or how much flightime 10 gallons in a Cessna will give you?!
@actualBomb787
@actualBomb787 5 жыл бұрын
lmfao I read this as it came up in the video
@KyleD237
@KyleD237 5 жыл бұрын
Agree. I heard that and thought...... maybe ask. Why not was him for his instructor number.
@benwilcox1484
@benwilcox1484 5 жыл бұрын
Right? They didn’t even ask him his school or instructor name and number or where to find him.... Not like he’s busy up there doing much while flying patterns in a Cessna.
@bulletbling
@bulletbling 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, let's have this STUDENT pilot pull out his cell phone to get a phone number, while he's maneuvering a complex flying machine, several thousand feet above the earth, dealing with the stress of an emergency situation, trying to keep airspeed, attitude, and altitude in a reasonable range, all while possibly only having flown the aircraft a dozen times. Seems reasonable.
@ArythemB
@ArythemB 5 жыл бұрын
@@bulletbling And yet he lands smoothly and staying calm
@hsxenon
@hsxenon 5 жыл бұрын
So much incompetence in a single video. Congrats to the pilot for making the decision to land.
@Firedog105
@Firedog105 5 жыл бұрын
His instructor saw the wheel come off and decided it was break time lol.
@poolguy101
@poolguy101 4 жыл бұрын
Control: uh, can we find the instructor. Everyone else: anyone know where the instructor is? Pilot: yeah, I'm just gonna land.
@bd5289
@bd5289 5 жыл бұрын
So...wait 10 minutes before asking what flight school? That seems smart. Geez.
@QemeH
@QemeH 5 жыл бұрын
There's probably one main flight school at that field (ATP, it sounds like), so they just assumed he came from them. Only after they weren't getting a hold of anyone there, they thought: Well, maybe he's with a school from elsewhere and his instructor is standing around somewhere. (Which happend to be the case. After they found out his name, the very next thing was a call to OPS to pick him up at the gate.)
@boringperson-zb8vy
@boringperson-zb8vy 5 жыл бұрын
@@QemeH Which is why you should never assume. I was waiting for him to ask what flight school he was with since the alert to tower.
@chriskohanek
@chriskohanek 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a little weird. At KLGB where I did my training, the tower controllers generally knew what call signs belonged to what flight school, to the point of jokingly giving instructions 'give way to company traffic on taxiway X' when you were to wait for another plane from your school or club. Some places like Embry Riddle make it obvious with tail numbers that end in 'ER'. You never know - the controller working tower may be new.
@tafan321
@tafan321 5 жыл бұрын
The flight school and instructor SHOULD be there at the airport listening to traffic on ground station while their students are soloing.
@Avantime
@Avantime 5 жыл бұрын
@tafan321 That's what I thought. All flight schools I know of monitor the frequency, and in the case of the first couple of solos, the instructor will be listening on a handheld transceiver.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 5 жыл бұрын
*Student pilot today. Professional pilot tomorrow!* He said he wanted to attempt it and he did it. Kudos to him and everyone who tried to help out 👍👍 *17-Year-Old Student Pilot Maggie lands her plane without a wheel* --> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJhibJB8sdvIhKM.html
@forgottenfamily
@forgottenfamily 5 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: put a link for the other student with a missing gear in the description
@NoviSavvy
@NoviSavvy 5 жыл бұрын
In our country I think they will blame the student for breaking the airplane. Like it was when our student performed a landing in a field with an engine failure and they said it was his fault like he messed up something with fuel mixture. And another student landed on a runway with gears up they said he forgot to extend it
@visheshgupta9100
@visheshgupta9100 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I am seeing that the ATC does not know how to handle an emergency situation. They did not even know how long the aircraft could fly with 10 gallons of fuel, by the time they got hold of the Flight Instructor, it was probably too late. Good for him that he decided to land, otherwise he could have run out of fuel with a disastrous outcome.
@NoviSavvy
@NoviSavvy 5 жыл бұрын
@@russdill that was fixed gear p2002. Nose wheel was broken by the way as I heard
@RogerAlan
@RogerAlan 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats to the pilot, he did as well as any low hour student could be expected to.
@uhohDavinci
@uhohDavinci 4 жыл бұрын
no kidding! plus putting it down with a gusty crosswind.. I would have lost my shit for sure. He came off with minimal damage.
@jefflangstrom7294
@jefflangstrom7294 3 жыл бұрын
Except the part where he broke the airplane causing the issue in the first place...
@RogerAlan
@RogerAlan 3 жыл бұрын
@@jefflangstrom7294 I hope you’re not a flight instructor. Prick.
@jefflangstrom7294
@jefflangstrom7294 3 жыл бұрын
@@RogerAlan "Did as well as any low hour student could be expected to"? Do you expect low hour students to snap the gear off of their planes? I hope you are not a flight instructor, dummy.
@joemeyer6876
@joemeyer6876 5 жыл бұрын
BE THE PILOT, HE DECIDED! HE was calmer than all those ‘dweebes’ On frequency!
@soccerguy2433
@soccerguy2433 5 жыл бұрын
He was calm because he is blissfully unaware. The ATCers know how bad the situation is and how bad it can get.
@curtisridge2506
@curtisridge2506 5 жыл бұрын
@@soccerguy2433 no.. you must keep a level head in these circumstances. If he started freaking out, it could have been much worse for him. Pretty sure he knew he was in trouble, deciding to put her down was a good decision.
@Something8830
@Something8830 5 жыл бұрын
soccerguy2433 in flight school they teach you all the things that could go wrong and what to do. This kid was just doing what his instructor would have taught him, stay calm and fly the plane.
@cebrady
@cebrady 3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisridge2506 Agreed - he's also in a small cessna without a ton of fuel weight. He's done enough landings if he's soloing - I would have been more worried about doing 'extra' damage to the plane handling the landing wrong than hurting myself. Dude was super calm - great job!
@Aaronautics95
@Aaronautics95 5 жыл бұрын
"Thank you for calling 1-800-ATP-FLYER. Your call is important to us. You are: Number 5. Of. 6. For Takeoff."
@rrknl5187
@rrknl5187 5 жыл бұрын
That was pretty much a textbook landing........really good. The kid kept his calm all the way....that's key to any emergency. While he didn't have many hours, any student who has just soloed is a pretty good pilot. He can handle the plane well, he just doesn't have the experience needed to make decisions, as noted in the video. I hope this guy keeps flying, he is on his way to being one of the best.
@Fiskanatorz
@Fiskanatorz 5 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more thumb ups! Literally most important with any air emergency is keeping calm. Even when he wasn't sure on wtf to do he was calm and collected. IMHO most important quality for a pilot. Well done.
@rrknl5187
@rrknl5187 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fiskanatorz The more ice you have in your veins, the better your chances. Calm, cold and calculating........that'll give you the best chance of a positive outcome.
@worldmenders
@worldmenders 5 жыл бұрын
I was at the EAA convention back in the '80s, and just happened to take a break to watch the planes land. A low wing tricycle gear plane touched down in front of me, and lost its right gear. The pilot kept the right wing up on the runway, then when he was starting to lose it, he turned off the runway to the right into the grass in a tightening spiral. He did about 270 degrees of turn, slowing the plane, and using the energy to keep the wing up. Finally, he hit the breaks and the plane came to a stop, and the wing came down gently in the grass without any forward motion. It was a beautiful thing to see, and I heard later they repaired it and took off the next day.
@FLYANDI
@FLYANDI 4 жыл бұрын
I am shocked by ATC's behavior here. Instead of putting confidence into the pilot they just tread him like he is clueless. Hats up to the student pilot by keeping calm and doing what was right to do.
@beenaplumber8379
@beenaplumber8379 3 жыл бұрын
This guy did all right. He lofted the flare a bit, but considering his situation, I think it was a brilliant landing. He kept the left wing, fuselage, and horizontal stabilizer up until they were in the grass. He was even considerate enough to clear the runway! Really nice job! (DAMN Cessna did a great job designing the Skyhawk!)
@sl33ksnypr285652
@sl33ksnypr285652 2 жыл бұрын
Can't see it super clean in the video, but it almost looks like he was using his rudder to keep it as straight as he could since the plane was trying to go the other direction because of the landing gear. Honestly, all things considered, student solo, damaged plane, wind conditions, he did a fantastic job. Almost instructional tape worthy.
@waynemiller6070
@waynemiller6070 2 жыл бұрын
Pilot: Tower, the plane’s doing a lot of weird things… Tower: oh, well just keep flying around… Good job pilot for taking control of your situation. And pretty nice landing too.
@alexanderSydneyOz
@alexanderSydneyOz Жыл бұрын
Yes, but saying your plane is "doing alot of weird things", isn't actually very helpful
@kyleashdown518
@kyleashdown518 5 жыл бұрын
Common sense kicked in before panic. This kid realized pretty quickly (for a student, at least) that landing was obviously his best option. Even in chaos mode, his phraseology was better than a lot of commercial pilots I've heard on this channel. I hope he keeps flying.
@JacIndyBachs
@JacIndyBachs 5 жыл бұрын
Heh-heh. If you're flying, landing is your ONLY option.
@skyhawk_4526
@skyhawk_4526 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacIndyBachs As my instructor would say, "Takeoffs are optional. Landings are mandatory."
@ChessJourneyman
@ChessJourneyman Жыл бұрын
He was calmer and communicated better than that wannabe hag diminishing him.
@Tendies7645
@Tendies7645 5 жыл бұрын
Him and Maggie flying *We don't we don't need wheels where we're going*
@jayswarrow1196
@jayswarrow1196 4 жыл бұрын
-Alright, sister. Right is all to you, left is *mine*. -Let's scrub this baby's belly...
@IRegretnothing74
@IRegretnothing74 4 жыл бұрын
Tendies This is a event horizon reference right? I just saw the movie a couple days ago lol
@wulfherecyning1282
@wulfherecyning1282 3 жыл бұрын
"He says 10 gallons, we think he has more" This, right here, is grounds for a sacking. Even if someone is a student, if they report an amount of fuel, *never* assume they have *more.* You can assume less, margin of error etc, but never assume more.
@Held_der_Feuer
@Held_der_Feuer 3 жыл бұрын
Depends. For the flight time you should asume its correct or less, but for the fire department asuming more is safer.
@hijosh5671
@hijosh5671 5 жыл бұрын
Serious impressive landing with that broken plane.
@ridge9066
@ridge9066 5 жыл бұрын
Fate T. Harlaown that was a good landing!
@user-th3jl8mz7y
@user-th3jl8mz7y 5 жыл бұрын
How the heck is it broken if he just landed it safely? Any good pilot can land airplane with gear missing/not retracting. And he's shown just that attitude of a good pilot. Now on the other hand we don't know why did it broke off in the first place... But even if it was his mistake he made up for it pretty well.
@hijosh5671
@hijosh5671 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-th3jl8mz7y yes, like what he say, maybe hit sign or something cause the landing gear fall off. I say impress was based on he still on solo learning and land the non fully functional aircraft (as landing gear missing)
@philconey11
@philconey11 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-th3jl8mz7y Metal fatigue and maintenance mistakes exist.
@VictoryAviation
@VictoryAviation 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-th3jl8mz7y NTSB report states he broke the wheel on a previous landing due to pilot error during a crosswind landing. My guess is he landed with a drastic side load, shearing the wheel off. The amount of force it must take to break a wheel off a C172 has got to be substantial considering the abuse we’ve all seen on that airframe for decades and hardly any have wheel shearing issues.
@albino_taco480
@albino_taco480 5 жыл бұрын
I watched it all happen right in front of my place. We had a nasty little storm cell come in while he was doing touch and gos. The winds came up quick and almost 90 degrees from the left on rwy 21. He tried to land around the B12 intersection, turned into the wind a litte too much and got off the left edge of the rwy. He was about three feet off the ground and decided to go around. Smart decision, but before he could climb out of it his left main cought the B11 taxi sign. The sign exploded, sounded like a shotgun. His wheel assembly went bouncing down three more intersections. That guy did a helluva good job keeping it in the air and putting it down safe.
@dobermanpac1064
@dobermanpac1064 4 жыл бұрын
The only “ADULT “ in the video was the Pilot. Calm, followed ATC instructions, realized the situation was deteriorating and took control. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Schm1dtstorm
@Schm1dtstorm 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive skills by the student to recognize that his plane was acting strange and to just go for the landing and avoid further risk. Also nailed the landing!
@DiskoSpider
@DiskoSpider 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous. Why even ask him his fuel if you are going to be like "no I think he's wrong" like wtf?! 10 gallons is like 80 pounds or so, it's not that far fetched. And then when someone asks you a question about the situation let's not even try to ask the pilot, just say "well he is a student so he probably doesn't know." Meanwhile don't even ask what school he is part of, just guess incorrectly and then chase that school around when you don't even have contact info. My god.
@darkiee69
@darkiee69 5 жыл бұрын
And when a student of said school says "I don't think he's one of our's" just ignore that and keep chasing the wrong school before finally asking the pilot himself.
@lightotw
@lightotw 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Solo is the last flight with basic training, so essentially should be treated as a full pilot, not someone new. Yeah his hours are as low as they come, but still, the assumption is he would be fully licensed if he passed everything at that point, so they should treat him like any pilot in charge.
@AlexFHDVideos2
@AlexFHDVideos2 4 жыл бұрын
Not really. 10 gallons or about 37 litres is barely a reserve amount of fuel for a 172 so it's almost definitely the wrong reading unfortunately.
@AlexFHDVideos2
@AlexFHDVideos2 4 жыл бұрын
@@lightotw Not really. If it was a first or subsequent solo there is a good chance he's of a very low skill level. Just because they're solo you can't assume he's competent to hold a licence at all. Especially since he had no idea what to do. If it were near a PPL level he'd have at least some idea on what to do...ie Approach speed correct, hold the aircraft on the good side for as long as possible, shutdown after touchdown etc. etc. I'm not critizicing the landing, he survived unharmed and the aircraft is in reasonably good shape so it was successful nonetheless
@lightotw
@lightotw 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexFHDVideos2 OK, then what happens on the next flight after solo, assuming that was marked as a pass? Still call flight school for help to land? Do you see my point?
@Remaggib
@Remaggib 5 жыл бұрын
When he said weird things were happening with the plane I was hoping he would just land it. No sense making a bad situation worse by trying to keep it in the air and potentially having another problem come up. Great job by him landing
@QemeH
@QemeH 5 жыл бұрын
Especially since ATC disregarded his "10 gallons" statement so easily as wrong information of a confused pilot. What if he was right? Maybe he burned to much during his training, maybe he had a leak, maybe he didn't calculate correctly... I understand ATC's concern for the man and wanting to get a pro on the line, but as we say on this channel time and time again: Ain't nobody in charge of that plane but the captain.
@claystorm
@claystorm 5 жыл бұрын
QemeH I think for me, since she was talking to the fire truck & ops, the “disregard” of the amount of fuel on board might have been more to do with preparing the fire fighters & ground personal for a bigger fire if this became a worse case scenario. I could be wrong, but it’s just a thought.
@ktthequeen
@ktthequeen 5 жыл бұрын
@@claystorm That was my impression as well.
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG 5 жыл бұрын
@@claystorm Same. That was the impression I got, too. 10 Gallons of Avgas burns away much faster than 20 or 30 gallons, and that aircraft can hold at least 50.
@UAL012
@UAL012 4 жыл бұрын
I think he made the right call. You fly the plane first and foremost and then you were serious the situation. If it starts getting Squirrley then you have a whole new set of problems to deal with. By him doing what he did and landing it he probably saved the plane, his own life, and possibly other peoples lives because if he had gone down anywhere in that region, he could’ve had a house, I’ll store, even on the highway. I don’t live too far away from Scottsdale regional airport and I know that area very well. That has the potential for some very disastrous results if he hadn’t done what he did.
@glennwyant9533
@glennwyant9533 5 жыл бұрын
"The aircraft did land safely, and the pilot is out of the aircraft." Well done, sir. Well done.
@ZicajosProductions
@ZicajosProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I respect the student’s decision to land before the instructor even got on frequency. It’s an example of confidence in your own decision-making process which is not something everyone is comfortable with.
@davidborneman1807
@davidborneman1807 5 жыл бұрын
I learned to fly under an instructor by the name of Jean at Riverside Airport in Tulsa. Whenever I would go out for a solo, including my first solo, she would be there in her vehicle with her portable radio set to tower - and had instructed me to switch to her "private" channel (just an unused standard channel - I won't mention the freq here, but I still remember it!) if anything went wrong and I needed to talk to her. I never had to do that... but after watching this and looking back, I must say my instructor rocked. I had no idea how lucky I was... On my first solo I remember setting my secondary radio to her freq just in case, and using the main for both ground and then tower (whereas usually I would have one set to tower and the other set to departure to make the transition easier when the time came). Kudos to this kid... I'm not sure I would have put it down without talking to my instructor first. In fact I am almost certain I would not have, unless there was something else going on - like maybe he really did only have 10 gallons of fuel on board. So ya.. excellent job done.
@danielhenderson8311
@danielhenderson8311 3 жыл бұрын
I fly out of KSDL (Scottsdale) and I was blown away that they did not have direct phone numbers available to every flight school and FBO on the field. There is no reason at all for them to have to dial a 1-800 number like that. Also, any CFI could have assisted - they didn't necessarily need to track down HIS instructor. There are probably 20 CFI's at Scottsdale at any given time. With this, all said.. wow the student did an amazing job of keeping his head and landing perfectly given the conditions.
@_ghost96
@_ghost96 4 жыл бұрын
Atta boy!!! You stayed calm, and you flew the airplane, navigated, and communicated. You couldn’t have done it any better.
@robbynelson3
@robbynelson3 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a cluster. Respect to PIC.
@JarrydS
@JarrydS 5 жыл бұрын
For all those wondering this plane burns about 10 gallons an hour, so he had at best an hour of fuel left. More likely 30-45 minutes to avoid any risk of low fuel/plus higher fuel burn due to his situation
@brad325is
@brad325is 5 жыл бұрын
Tower manager needs to work on a contact list. Not having an FBO phone number??
@soccerguy2433
@soccerguy2433 4 жыл бұрын
its not even an FBO... its a Flight school that regularly sends up solos. I would have direct phone number for the school as well as the instructors' phone for any solo. But that's from a USAF UPT mentality.
@nickshelton8423
@nickshelton8423 3 жыл бұрын
@@soccerguy2433 that’s from a smart business and safety standpoint
@gregorybennett6684
@gregorybennett6684 3 жыл бұрын
Well and maybe not just guessing would help too
@brad325is
@brad325is 3 жыл бұрын
@@soccerguy2433 Agreed. I'm at a busy flight school. We work them everyday and can contact them and the instructor Immediately.
@publicaccount1589
@publicaccount1589 5 жыл бұрын
If he really only had 10 gallons of fuel and he did say the plane was doing weird things (which atc didn't pick up on) he might have been so low on fuel the plane was doing 'weird things' and he knew he better get it down asap. just a theory but I wonder.. in any case stayed calm and landed like a boss.
@ejpeiker
@ejpeiker 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, brings back memories of my first solo in 1991, also in a C-172. Almost immediately after takeoff I lost my airspeed indicator. When you are taught to fly by the numbers that's pretty disconcerting. i made it around the pattern and made a normal landing but it was pretty darn scary that early in one's flying career with just 11 hours under your belt. It turns out the pitot tube had hit a bug which plugged it causing it to be plugged.
@mrdav1e
@mrdav1e 2 жыл бұрын
murphy's law, you did a great job of flying the aircraft!
@zrow9903
@zrow9903 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it took them that long to ask the pilot himself what flight school he was in. That was one of my first thoughts.
@GunSlinger221
@GunSlinger221 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, WTF this is depressing. The Scottsdale Flight OPS KSDL need some serious training, mainly Ground. Pilots intentions were to bring that bird down, instead of calling the flight school. Speaking of flight school where was the FI? Oh wait, scottsdale OPS, call I 800 CAP CRUNCH flight school Press one on your key pad if your Scottsdale Flight OPS in need of retraining, what was that? Bravo to the pilot for bringing the bird down. Scottsdale get some training for God sake, who trained you all? Bubba GUMP? To the pilot, young man I would go down range with you anytime. Excellent work
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 4 жыл бұрын
While I agree that there may've been better ways to handle the situation, the initial problems were that a) the student pilot didn't know what to do, and b) the ATC didn't know what to do. ATC aren't always trained pilots, so for more control-oriented problems, they tend to call in professional flight instructors. Which they tried to do. It didn't go very well, but nothing can change that now.
@straightpipediesel
@straightpipediesel 4 жыл бұрын
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 It's not that the student pilot didn't know what to do, it's he said it outright. If he was an experienced airliner pilot, he'd say "We need to hold to run checklists" and "We need to speak with maintenance" to mean the same thing.
@rickkimball6125
@rickkimball6125 4 жыл бұрын
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 It's true the student pilot didn't know what to do but ATC has been trained, for many hours, in emergency procedures. They wasted time trying to call the flight school when they could've walked the pilot thru some basic emergency procedure checklists, asked him if he'd done crosswind landings (same thing he had to do when landing this plane), figured out why the plane was flying erratically, etc.
@bulletbling
@bulletbling 5 жыл бұрын
No prop strike, and landed on the working wheel. Fine job.
@ByGraceThroughFaithHomestead
@ByGraceThroughFaithHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice landing, great job! Maggie inspiring solo students everyday!
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
I had forgot Maggie was on this channel and thought she was Fight Attendant Supervisor at Ryanair Operations ••• Me myself an I caught a propeller about to come unscrewed on J-3 during first 10 Hours ♦ I argued and pushed it and forced saying I would not go up ~ CFI reported the mechanic said I did have it right - later the _same_ *CFI* locks the axles on the J-3 with Navion starting takeoff roll so me I understand why the CFI took actions that he did
@darrenerickson1288
@darrenerickson1288 5 жыл бұрын
That was a pilot who proved himself worthy of the title. He remembered the fundamentals of aviate, navigate, communicate and brought it down with the best of his skill. Bravo Zulu and I'd be proud to be his passenger.
@zacharytaylor190
@zacharytaylor190 2 жыл бұрын
Good on the PiC for making the call to land. A good pilot knows when to take matters into their own hands, and he knew the right time to do so. As a result, he is safe, the plane looks reparable and nobody on the ground was hurt. Amazing outcome!
@mrc7966
@mrc7966 4 жыл бұрын
Experienced ground crew: Dithered and failed to obtain a complete picture. Inexperienced pilot: Flew the plane, remained calm and was decisive enough to over-rule ground and get the damaged plane on the ground safely. Well done sir.
@alexanderSydneyOz
@alexanderSydneyOz Жыл бұрын
remember ATC did say he was cleared for landing earlier if he wanted to.
@intothemystic5223
@intothemystic5223 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Maggie got way more praise and I think this guy deserves just as much. Excellent job! You two should get married 😊
@Raging.Geekazoid
@Raging.Geekazoid 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not as terrifying for a 36yo man as for a 17yo girl.
@superconnie5003
@superconnie5003 5 жыл бұрын
Flight School will just say "land".
@thisconnectd
@thisconnectd 5 жыл бұрын
They might send instructor up there to help if they have time
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisconnectd I know it's silly, but the image of a cfi with a red bull wingsuit entering the cessna crossed my mind lol.
@fulcrumindicate
@fulcrumindicate 5 жыл бұрын
Man, they didn't even ask if he thought he knew how much air time he had or what flight school they just said he doesn't know he's a solo student but never ask they are inept and should have asked the kid right away. Nice landing kid great composure!!! Now the rest of the first contact with him wow. The woman does nothing but make inaccurate statements and try and defer any responsibility I did tell him to land I was speaking with his instructor (I could not find forever but didn't ask a pilot what school he was from) and "he" just decided to land himself while admittedly she did not know how much fuel he had. Imagine an emergency that required her to think quicker than "circle for awhile". Noice Kid great job!
@Jesse-cx4si
@Jesse-cx4si 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive! Kid was like, “um, yeah...so I’m landing this plane and gonna bring you the flight school info...Then I’ll liftoff amd circle again and wait you bozos to do ANYTHING.”
@jimmars
@jimmars 5 жыл бұрын
That ground controller is dangerous
@FamilyWinn
@FamilyWinn 5 жыл бұрын
Horrible ground controller. Pull out a phone book if you think a phone call is so important. More effort on dialing than helping the solo pilot!
@darkiee69
@darkiee69 5 жыл бұрын
@@FamilyWinn Ground had nothing to do with the pilot, that's ATC's job. She's coordinating what happends on the ground with rescue and others involved.
@ChessJourneyman
@ChessJourneyman Жыл бұрын
​@@darkiee69she was coordinating a freaking chat room like she's talking with her husband about her day at work. She needs to be fired.
@davidallen9526
@davidallen9526 4 жыл бұрын
Tower and Ground had there head up there butts. In need of training. Good job 👍 pilot!!!
@Mr.Ramirez95
@Mr.Ramirez95 5 жыл бұрын
Instructor or NO instructor there's only one thing to do..then he made his choice. NICE landing!
@skyhawk_4526
@skyhawk_4526 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Takeoffs are optional. But landings are mandatory.
@garon43
@garon43 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I could have landed that well with all the wheels on the plane.
@markdanslaug
@markdanslaug 5 жыл бұрын
Garon Hano I can see it now today we are going to learn how to land with two wheels. Student: like that will ever happen Jim: look outside I just did it, ya might want to pay attention
@12Casual
@12Casual 3 жыл бұрын
Lession learned: Get tower a list of phone numbers of flight schools operating at the airport
@jordansean18
@jordansean18 3 жыл бұрын
"Keep circling, we're gonna drive your instructor over here to the tower." "Nah ima just land this thing."
@scot349
@scot349 2 жыл бұрын
Such poise and confidence to trust his own discernment on the decision to land. Glad he had the proficiency to execute it.
@joacampos2268
@joacampos2268 5 жыл бұрын
Love when the ATC and OPS say great job
@markdanslaug
@markdanslaug 5 жыл бұрын
Joa Campos it’s like they’re saying “guess we didn’t need the instructor”
@skellious
@skellious 5 жыл бұрын
OPS handled this terribly.
@tackytubertv5975
@tackytubertv5975 5 жыл бұрын
i agree, that ground lady was awful and annoying. "he says he has 10 gallons but its probably more since he is a student solo" like wtf does that have to do with anything youre a ground controller not a pilot
@kenclark9888
@kenclark9888 5 жыл бұрын
Shawn Huffman chances are that he did have more than that on board system on that plane is around 40 gallons we will never know the whole truth
@russdill
@russdill 5 жыл бұрын
@@kenclark9888 subscribe to the NTSB reports
@kenclark9888
@kenclark9888 5 жыл бұрын
Shawn Huffman 8-12 out of a system on the 172 a little low, when I was training went out with more. As for the NTSB, they may not even show and just leave it for that local FSDO office
@kenclark9888
@kenclark9888 5 жыл бұрын
russdill this might not even make it. We had a guy land gear up at our field and both NTSB and FSDO didn’t show as there were no injuries
@RasheedKhan-he6xx
@RasheedKhan-he6xx 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing to suggest he's a kid. Yes he's a student pilot but he could be 47 years old for all we know. So while he lacked technical skills and would have preferred to defer to expert advice, he didn't necessarily lack maturity or had never faced any kind of emergency before. When the advice wasn't coming and everyone else on the radio is sounding flustered and the aircraft has now started doing weird things he stopped deferring and took the decision. Excellent ending to a scary story.
@yucannthahvitt251
@yucannthahvitt251 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a kid to me. Reminds me of how we all sounded on frequency when I was 18 in flight school
@JoeyB0b
@JoeyB0b 5 жыл бұрын
He did not sound like he could be 47 years old...
@rrknl5187
@rrknl5187 5 жыл бұрын
The video stated he was 17.
@dragsys
@dragsys 5 жыл бұрын
One of our high schools here in the valley of the sun has a pilot's magnet program. When I saw that it was Scottsdale I wondered if it was one of theirs. 17 would be about the right age for their solos, I think.
@RasheedKhan-he6xx
@RasheedKhan-he6xx 5 жыл бұрын
@@rrknl5187 At the end of the video you mean? Look again, that's just a link to the next video which is about a 17 year old female pilot in similar circumstances.
@johnwyoder
@johnwyoder 5 жыл бұрын
Really impressed with the level of calm this student pilot had! I'm sure he will have a great flying career.
@Treasureson78RPM
@Treasureson78RPM 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly executed by the young student pilot. He definitely passed his first major test in aviation. I wish him a great future flying career filled with fun and adventures.
@alantorrance6153
@alantorrance6153 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as an ex CPL, that was one hell of a good landing, especially as he possibly had not yet been given instruction for that situation (to hold the wounded side up as long as possible). Well Done!!! Very well done!!! Why did the Tower not have an up-to-date emergency contact list for all the operators on the Field?
@ChessJourneyman
@ChessJourneyman Жыл бұрын
Because the imbecile lady treats it like an IT helpdesk job where she rambles like she's talking to her friends.
@divindave6117
@divindave6117 5 жыл бұрын
This student flat out Rocked it on is own. Magnificent job!
@AussieMaleTuber
@AussieMaleTuber 5 жыл бұрын
I would have thought they could have brought a Cessna pilot and then an IP from somewhere on freq. to reassure him, get a comprehensive assessment of the aircrafts status and the name of his IP and flight school, as well as talking to him about a regular landing expectation with rudder compenstion on landing run and expected left turn off the runway when he slows down. The tape made it sound like no-one was really working with this pilot, he seemed a bit alone, but we did not hear many of thr radio transmissions I would assume.
@PrairieLands702
@PrairieLands702 5 жыл бұрын
I dont care if that kid is a solo or new, with that landing WITHOUT instructor guidance, give him the license!!
@HairHelmet
@HairHelmet 5 жыл бұрын
DAL4848 ! He hit the sign and lost a wheel without instruction as well, I vote no on the license but thumbs up for surviving.
@KingOfTheWorld462
@KingOfTheWorld462 5 жыл бұрын
@@HairHelmet hahahahaha
@jessebourgelas8811
@jessebourgelas8811 5 жыл бұрын
Hair Helmet But it was an accident. Shit happens idiot! I’d like to see your piloting skills.
@tenpiloto
@tenpiloto 5 жыл бұрын
Give him a license? How about determining how he knocked off that gear?
@FSXpilotman
@FSXpilotman 5 жыл бұрын
More so how did hit something and the plane not hit the ground imediately
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 5 жыл бұрын
He did the BEST THING HE COULD DO by afmitting he was a student pilot and didn't know what to do.
@mechmunch
@mechmunch 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Well done. I’m unsure given the circumstances, that could have been any cleaner. Good job.
@auxityne
@auxityne 3 жыл бұрын
I think this pilot realized that the situation in the tower was basically the shrug emoji and he decided to take charge.
@thefallenrift1705
@thefallenrift1705 2 жыл бұрын
He did an amazing job staying calm and doing what he had ti
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog 5 жыл бұрын
And meanwhile the controllers wound up killing the student by assuming.
@GlareAtEm
@GlareAtEm 3 жыл бұрын
First rule of emergency landing in a Cessna: open the doors. I’m surprised no one told him
@LukeEvans55
@LukeEvans55 3 жыл бұрын
Is this due to fire potential?
@GlareAtEm
@GlareAtEm 3 жыл бұрын
@@LukeEvans55 that’s part of the reason. The main one is the potential to have the door get jammed, trapping you inside, exposing you to things like fire.
@No_Fuse8771
@No_Fuse8771 5 жыл бұрын
Good job dude! Way to go, hope you stick with it. You sound calm and you knew to hold on to for as long as you could.
@AHJ99.
@AHJ99. 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to have this guy as my future pilot on an airliner. He handled it awesomely and put ATC to shame! Well done captain, I hope the career works out well for you!
@areza15143
@areza15143 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly yes, but he did wander from the runway and hit a light or something which is something that most pilots never do, so after that yes he was awesome, Mostly an incredible State of mind
@f3nd13y
@f3nd13y 5 жыл бұрын
You are telling me there was zero instructors on either frequency??
@jerryharrington1034
@jerryharrington1034 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding job dude !! Well composed given the current situation. Well done Sir !!
@lordlandbeast
@lordlandbeast 3 жыл бұрын
This poor guy, he did such a great job with no help 😂
@davidhandyman7571
@davidhandyman7571 5 ай бұрын
When the pilot said the plane was acting weird, it was time to be on the ground. Bravo, Young Sir!
@CommomsenseSmith
@CommomsenseSmith 3 жыл бұрын
Nice landing for a student! Had a student near local airport around here she did a very similar landing and minimal damage to the plane she was safe no injuries also. She also got lucky as there were air force army and coast guard pilots on the ground who noticed her loose the gear her instructor went up in the tower and walked her through the landing.
@alexskinner6905
@alexskinner6905 3 жыл бұрын
It must have felt like hours waiting for his instructor to be found. I can't blame him for finally deciding to land. Must have been really stressful for him.
@raymaiden958
@raymaiden958 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Way to work the problem and not letting the problem work you!!
@golvic1436
@golvic1436 5 жыл бұрын
The second you are solo you are Pilot In Command. Good on him he took command and did a good landing. He walked away. Can't ask for better.
@nike4344
@nike4344 5 жыл бұрын
She keeps talking like he is a helpless solo student pilot who doesn't understand anything.
@borisglevrk
@borisglevrk 5 жыл бұрын
Well the pilot did repeatedly say he doesn't know what to do... Though, from his landing it appears that he was a lot better than what he sounded like.
@newcool1230
@newcool1230 5 жыл бұрын
@@borisglevrk yup, if your a solo student pilot you would at least know how to fly a plane xD
@walidnaceri9665
@walidnaceri9665 5 жыл бұрын
newcool1230 yeah but you know the stress that you get on the emergency makes you feel like you forget everything and the atc doesn't help at all
@lightotw
@lightotw 4 жыл бұрын
@@walidnaceri9665 If you watch a few of these ATC videos on youtube you soon learn most controllers have very little idea about what the pilots know and don't know. You can run out of fuel or have an engine fail (in a single engine type) and they continue to say maintain altitude or take a heading to an airport an impossible distance away.
@BLACKMONGOOSE13
@BLACKMONGOOSE13 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist. Instructor gets fired and they give his job to the kid who is is now a local legend and goes by the call sign "Rough Rudder."
@NGC1433
@NGC1433 5 жыл бұрын
That would only be fair. I'd feel much safer training together with that student, than with an instructor who goes by the callsign AWOL.
@superman17n
@superman17n 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@hardy2k11
@hardy2k11 3 жыл бұрын
Rough Rudder......😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hardy2k11
@hardy2k11 3 жыл бұрын
The kid probably saved the CFI's job with that outstanding landing
@AkiraAkiyama
@AkiraAkiyama 5 жыл бұрын
He could felt he can't stay in the air anymore and decided to land himself. He definitely knows which situation he was at. The helpless one is the controller.
@freevillein9763
@freevillein9763 10 ай бұрын
That was F-ING impressive! He had no idea what to do, but when his plane started feeling unsafe to keep flying he decided to put it down anyway and made a beautiful landing! I love watching student solos ace their emergencies.
@restojon1
@restojon1 5 жыл бұрын
What a class A bit of aviation! Well impressed with that, both the decision making and landing.
@SpencerFcp
@SpencerFcp 3 жыл бұрын
For a student pilot in a non-standard situation, he did a pretty good job of remaining calm and communicating clearly. And had the confidence to make the judgement call to land, likely thinking the situation was going to get worse if he stayed in the air. Well done. On the other hand, little confused by how they handled the situation. Why not just ask the kid for his instructors number? Why ask him how much fuel he has only to then say it's probably more than that? He was in an uncomfortable situation for sure, but he didn't seem incompetent.
@alexanderSydneyOz
@alexanderSydneyOz Жыл бұрын
She was told 2nd hand that he said 'about 10 gallons', and I assumed that from her experience, a student solo likely has more fuel than that. Plus, she is advising a firefighting unit, so the comment that it is likely more is exercising sensible caution.
@3DGFan9000
@3DGFan9000 2 жыл бұрын
That was actually really good for not having anyone walk him through it. Could even tell he tried to correct the drift to the gearless side with the rudders until it was too strong
@timmack2415
@timmack2415 2 жыл бұрын
ATC sounded much more worried than the student pilot.
@HanSoloRio
@HanSoloRio 5 жыл бұрын
He stayed calm all the time. Awesome job!
@shaanemillat
@shaanemillat 5 жыл бұрын
That moment when a student pilot transforms into a real captain. One of the best landings I have ever seen.
@PaulG0502
@PaulG0502 3 жыл бұрын
Who needs an instructor when you are a Boss! Great Job First time I have viewed this. Way to keep calm. Good to be flying a Cessna this time. My Best to you in the future.
@KD-xi3dn
@KD-xi3dn 2 жыл бұрын
You Earned Your Wings 100x Over. Fantastic Job piloting a crippled plane and Landing it & walking away. What an Amazing Pilot, to deal with the pressure of a true life& death dilemma, yet step out with courage and Land that plane. He stayed calm , decisive , assessed the situation , did all possible & then brought it in. God Bless.
@bernardanderson7569
@bernardanderson7569 5 жыл бұрын
Great job staying ahead of his Aircraft and staying with ATC communication with the tower and staying calm throughout this and I'll be the one who would tell him that you did a fantastic landing to walking away from . Please let the student pilot know that .
@jordanryan5064
@jordanryan5064 5 жыл бұрын
The "getting lost" checklist applies. Climb: check. Confess: "I must have hit a sign or something." (Translation: I hit a sign. Y'all need a new sign and I need a wheel.) Communicate: Imma gonna put this thing down while I have the nerve. Bravo. Way to keep cool and handle it.
@braviatelevision826
@braviatelevision826 3 жыл бұрын
The airport shouldn't replace that "1/2 off on new wheels" sign they had on the runway.
@topofthegreen
@topofthegreen 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how the pilot was left to figure it out himself, no instructors to be found.
@CedarPinesFieldGrove
@CedarPinesFieldGrove 5 жыл бұрын
Dude nailed that as well as any pro could. Regardless of how he lost his wheel, he was able to get himself on the ground safely and he managed to not hit anything, that's all that matters.
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