Yall are speaking some facts with this one, but I would like to point out that the hyperindependent attitude a lot of women have is kind of a maladaptive survival technique rather than a preference. Women have needed to make their own money and be their protection because a lot of men have used those things as mechanisms for control. Historically, needing a man has been very dangerous for women because it meant the likelihood of being chained to a tyrant. So a lot of women decided to to go into male-centered spaces to be able to provide for themselves, because that was the safest way they saw to get their needs met. Unfortunately, you can't succeed in a male-centered environment by being in your feminine, regardless of gender. And so the most successful women in these spaces had to become more aggressive, competitive, and ruthless than even the men around them. But it wasn't for fun, or to be "cool". It was to survive. A lot of women are overly in their masculine because they feel like they have to be for their own safety. It comes from a lack of trust in men, not from an identification with the masculine. A lot of those women would prefer to be in their feminine (that's where a lot of the "soft life" foolishness comes from), but they genuinely believe that they can't without putting themselves at risk.

This was interesting theres alot of conversation with men regarding masculinity

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