Real World Comparison Jeep Gladiator 5.13 vs 4.88 Gears

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2 жыл бұрын

Whats should you choose? 5.13 gears? 4.88 gears? Stock gears? Lots of opinions and conjecture from keyboard warriors about 5.13 vs. 4.88 gears. Blake (IG: jeepymcjeepfaceyyc ) and I decided to share our real world experiences and do some similar tests. Please check it out....weigh in on your choice and enjoy! Please like, subscribe and hit the notification bell. #JTRSPARTACUS

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@chanerx Жыл бұрын

About darn time someone did the real world comparison. Thank you for this. Great job.

@JTRSpartacus Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Now that I have 5.13s I have zero regrets. 4.88 would have been ok too. It’s not really a huge deal but it’s great to see the difference and make your choice. Thanks for watching!! #JTRSPARTACUS

@llegacy1870 8 ай бұрын

Great job. Love the side by side comparison.

@JTRSpartacus 8 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching. #JTRSPARTACUS

@VeryCoolJeep 2 жыл бұрын

I can hear that Centerforce Clutch roooar love it!

@sellickusa 10 ай бұрын

Great comparison

@JTRSpartacus 10 ай бұрын

Glad these are useful. Thanks for watching!! #JTRSPARTACUS

@jamesschneider6136 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! I’m going w/ the 4.88’s

@JTRSpartacus 10 ай бұрын

Nice! Good luck. You really can’t go wrong with either. #JTRSPARTACUS

@carlosmaldonado9510 5 ай бұрын

This was great 👍

@craigversetti5700 7 ай бұрын

Great video ! Thanks fellas !! Honestly being a former machinist it's really about what I'd expect , 488 & 513 are really similar and shouldn't have a huge huge difference between the two. Now if we're talking 438 to 538 I'd expect to see a bigger more noticeable difference.... I am curious to see the MPG difference between the two? Actual calculations not digital dash readings lol

@JTRSpartacus 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. I’d guess mileage differences would be negligible. Lots of factors with the driving style, traffic, terrain, and vehicle weight being big ones. I did a trip to Yellowstone and back from PA and calculated 15.6 mpg - dash showed 16. I get about 13.6 driving around home in hilly PA in short trips and usually lugging stuff. #JTRSPARTACUS

@johnniemeyer3139 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!!!

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it. #JTRSPARTACUS

@pitin8201 Ай бұрын

Good video. I would like to see the first 1-4 gears side by side. I have people telling me if I go with 5:13 that I won’t have a first gear.

@JTRSpartacus Ай бұрын

I have 1st gear and use it daily. It’s short but unless it’s completely flat or downhill, I use 1st to take off. The difference between 4.88 and 5.13 is about 5%. I’d rather have the extra 5% lower gears in the mountains or when towing. Thanks for watching. #JTRSPARTACUS

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

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@richardrussell1930 7 ай бұрын

Like to see this with auto and also maybe a 0-60 test. What’s the difference at lower gears when coming up to speed.

@100pyatt 6 ай бұрын

Good question

@St.PierreProductions 2 жыл бұрын

Where are you? Those trees behind you were absolutely GORGEOUS!!

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Southern Chester County, Pennsylvania. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS

@Rottie_713 Жыл бұрын

Im glad i found this because i have a 6mt mojave wondering if different gears function different compared to at

@JTRSpartacus Жыл бұрын

Nice! #savethestick You really can’t go wrong with either. Good luck! #JTRSPARTACUS

@lawnews Жыл бұрын

great topic, thank you. will be upping to 37's and needed this info--basically, not much difference but as long as pricing is similar i think i will opt for 5.13

@JTRSpartacus Жыл бұрын

I believe the prices were basically the same. You’ll love 5.13s with 37s!!! #JTRSPARTACUS

@keithfraser364 2 жыл бұрын

I did notice that there was about 30 degrees difference in air temperature. I wonder how much that affected the test. Other factors would be actual tire size, pressure, and difference in height above sea level. All very interesting. Thank you for posting!

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Not scientific but still useful. Thanks for watching!! #JTRSPARTACUS

@ricklime1793 10 ай бұрын

One truck is Fahrenheit, and one is Celsius. 34 degrees F to -1 C is a difference of 3 degrees Fahrenheit. Virtually no difference.

@JTRSpartacus 10 ай бұрын

Good catch! Again - not scientific but a reasonable comparison. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS

@4X4ish 7 ай бұрын

In a manual, the engine speed vs all those other variables doesn't matter since it is a mechanical connection

@wailingalen 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for this vid. Got a JL Sport with 6MT. Doing research on gearing bc I would like to upsize tires in near future. Nothing crazy. Def 33 MAYBE 35. Got the stock All Terrain Wranglers. Haven't had a chance to take her off road yet. Will see how she does. Who knows, I might keep it bone 🦴 stock after all is considered!!! Def gonna put an exhaust tho 😇

@JTRSpartacus 5 ай бұрын

Glad I could help! Good luck. #JTRSPARTACUS

@ghernandez6457 9 ай бұрын

Damn I wished this was an 8 speed auto comparison. I am at around 2400 Rpm going 75 on seventh gear on 4.10s on 38s. I might get my 8th gear back with 4.88s, 5.13s might be too much.

@bbannongmu 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Probably not too much at 5.13 for 38s. Really depends on where you live/drive and what you use your JT for. #JTRSPARTACUS

@100pyatt 6 ай бұрын

I think the 5.13 would be totally fine the overdrive is insane on these

@jbann4300 2 жыл бұрын

Cool

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏. Appreciate the support!

@simoncharest7620 2 жыл бұрын

hello, congratulations on your good work, thanks to you the consumer is carefully informed. now i have an ambiguity for the ratio of my gladiator rubicon, i live in quebec in canada, my job is snow removal with tractors, for moons, everyone knows that a jeep is superior to a truck. I want to install a front plow to push snow. in the summer I have a boat that weighs 3000lbs, I am often on the road for travel, my top speed here in Canada is a maximum of 120 kilometers per hour. what would be the best ratio for my utility, the ideal for me is the maximum of force and power while respecting the speed of the engine at approximately 1700 revolutions in 8iem clutch. thank you !

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

It really depends on what size tires you are running. If you are running stock size tires the stock 4.10 gears are just barely adequate with the manual transmission. You may want to look at 4.56 ratio gears for stock tires and plowing. If you go to taller say 35” tires you may want to go up to 4.88 gears but even 4.56 ratio gears will be better than stock. Be sure to buy quality gears and use an experienced mechanic. Thanks for watching and good luck! #JTRSPARTACUS

@MidKnight2142 2 жыл бұрын

Btw (I'll try to correct this later if I'm wrong), but my Stock JT Rubicon manual is maybe at 3200-3300 RPM in 4th gear at 60mph. I haven't bothered looking at oil pressure though. EDIT: Numbers were wrong, see the updated numbers below, if you're curious.

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Seems a bit high for stock gears and tires in 4th gear. Oil pressure goes up when over 3,000 rpms. Not sure it’s a big deal unless you run like that for a long time. Like everything. YMMV. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS

@MidKnight2142 2 жыл бұрын

@@JTRSpartacus You're correct, they were too high lol. It was actual about 2600rpm at 60mph and about 32 for the oil pressure. The number I was thinking of was 4th gear at 75mph, that was closer to 3200rpm.

@aemsmdhxraysection1318 Ай бұрын

i love the way you guys do the real world comparison but, i'd like to ask regarding the road you guys are taking. . was it uphill or on level surface? thank you !! more power!

@JTRSpartacus Ай бұрын

Almost no true level spots where I live in Pennsylvania can’t say for my colleague in Canada. In PA it’s small hills that go up and down and average out. Not scientific but a decent comparison if I do say so, myself. Thanks for watching. #JTRSPARTACUS

@irvingmorales5855 2 жыл бұрын

Woowww finally the video that I was looking for, great video, very informative and excellent explanation !!!!! do you think that it can be the same results with my jk 2014 6speed if I switch to 5.13 ? I don’t know the difference between JL 6 speed and JK 6 speed, thanks a lot for amazing video

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Different transmissions, with different ratios so it will be a bit different. The basic ideas is similar. The JL Wrangler and JT Gladiator use an Aisin D478 trans with these ratios 1st - 5.13 2nd - 2.63 3rd - 1.53 4th - 1.00 5th - 0.81 6th - 0.72 Reverse - 4.49 The JK Wrangler uses the Daimler NSG370 manual transmission. 1st 4.46 2nd 2.61 3rd 1.72 4th 1.25 5th 1.00 6th 0.84 Reverse 4.06 Good luck ! #JTRSPARTACUS

@irvingmorales5855 2 жыл бұрын

@@JTRSpartacus thank you so much really appreciate it!!!!!!!

@stevebryant1035 2 жыл бұрын

I would have liked to see the difference with a trailer. Around town without a load on the truck is minimal.

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not against this but there would be some logistics involved. Ideally we would need two trucks in the same place, same loop, same trailer. (Blake lives in Canada 🇨🇦 and I live in Pennsylvania 🇺🇸) we would need 1 with 5.13s and 1 with 4.88s. I’m open to a collaboration and have a trailer we can load up if anyone in the Southeast PA, DE, MD, South NJ area has a manual Gladiator on 37s and 4.88 gears. Thanks for watching and commenting. #JTRSPARTACUS

@DerrickOil 2 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison, didn't see much of difference until North of 75 MPH (120 KMH). Btw, got any merch?

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I’ll have some Centerforce stickers a d a Centerforce t-shirt to give away for that video. Hit the notification bell 🔔 for updates! #JTRSPARTACUS

@andrewbouffard6118 7 ай бұрын

Nice vid! Any concern with the clutch recal? With regearing?

@JTRSpartacus 7 ай бұрын

I did the Centerforce clutch because the factory clutch was woefully inadequate and I didn’t believe (and still don’t) that Jeep would make it right. This replaces all the faulty components with hood parts so zero worries. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS

@marcnunes6916 Жыл бұрын

Something to consider with the manual. First gear in 4H is awesome maybe better than AT but 2nd gear feels tall in stock form. If you like to air-down tires, 37s might be better off with the 5.13?

@JTRSpartacus Жыл бұрын

2nd gear is a bit tall on the manual. In 4wd low, I can put in 2nd and crawl up a 20degree hill without giving it any gas.

@St.PierreProductions 2 жыл бұрын

So for 38in tires, do you recommend 5.13?

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Probably be ok. For auto trans 5.13 will likely be great for 38s. Depending on the tire weight and your use (especially if towing) you might want to look at 5.38 gears for manual transmission. Thanks for watching and good luck! #JTRSPARTACUS

@blakemarchand6650 9 ай бұрын

Will re-gearing to 4.88 gears through a code or check engine light on my dash ? Do you have to re-flash the ecu?

@bbannongmu 9 ай бұрын

You’ll need to get a Tazer or other programmer or have a dealer reflash to correct the Speedo. There is also a relearn procedure - basically drive 20 seconds in 6th while accelerating - I have another video on my channel of this . I have a Tazer mini programmer. Good luck! #JTRSPARTACUS

@JTRSpartacus 9 ай бұрын

Relearn for manual trans is here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8xghMuanN23cqc.htmlsi=pwZwAAan-Uvbz5Ce if auto trans - there may be something different.

@Kissfan113 9 ай бұрын

How is your takeoff with the 5.13s, I have a 2023 Willys Sport, and the take off is horrible, stalls easier than a mid 90s ford escort, reverse up hill or out of a hole is nearly impossible without side stepping the clutch, and i really have to feather the fuel in 1st to get going

@Kissfan113 9 ай бұрын

Also Im on the factory 255 tires and 3.73 gears

@JTRSpartacus 9 ай бұрын

Take off is much better with 5.13 gears and 37s. It’s not fast but it is responsive. If it’s flat I can take off in 2nd gear ⚙️. Thanks for watching. #JTRSPARTACUS

@kentleclair9939 2 жыл бұрын

What’s your average MPG with 5:13’s ?

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Getting about 15.6 mpg calculated by hand in back road/hilly local driving. About 1 mpg less thank stock 4.10 and 33inch tires. Display is showing 16mpg so it’s not that far off. Thanks for watching!

@jamesbarnett4166 Жыл бұрын

Did you also GPS the speed ?

@JTRSpartacus Жыл бұрын

We both previously calibrated our speedos with Tazers and checked against GPS.

@christinabruce5660 2 жыл бұрын

Does it feel different?

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

THANKS for watching and for your comment. It does feel different. 5.13 gears feel so much more powerful than the stock 4.10s with 37” tires. I got 5th and 6th gear back. It was a dog on the highway and trail with stock 4.10 gears. Checkout the first tow video for an example kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJ1kps1hnNLHZI0.html #JTRSPARTACUS

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

If the question is do 5.13s vs 4.88 feel different. I’m not sure. Probably at least a little bit. Blake is in Canada 🇨🇦 and I’m in Pennsylvania 🇺🇸 so this was a virtual collaboration. I’m open to doing a back to back in person comparison if anyone is in the PA, DE, MD, Southern Jersey region with a manual JT, 37s and 4.88 gears.

@christinabruce5660 2 жыл бұрын

Ok. Cool, good to know. Our family is new to the Jeep family and we got a 2021 manual rubicon gladiator. Weve done nothing yet because we just dont know anything and I was curious. Just myself, I'm a short lady so I've never really driven a manual pickup before this jeep. I'm pretty good with any manual sedan, but this truck is definitely taking me some time to get accustomed. We live in Hawaii so not much opportunity to get above 50mph so I find myself most comfortable really around 3rd gear. I like to keep rpms around 2000at most for manual sedans, but it's not as natural or easy in this truck. My husband does the driving when we go offroad, lol.

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

@@christinabruce5660 thanks for watching and welcome to the Gladiator obsession OlllllllO!!!

@steamman9193 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this is exactly why people should opt for the 8 speed auto. My sport on 33s can cruise at 80mph on the interstate at 2100rpm and get 20mpg. Bigger tires? 7th gear and 37s run an almost identical final ratio to stock and you still have another gear over the manual option. Plus the auto is so fast on a gearshift your always in the right gear for the situation

@JTRSpartacus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. To each their own. Everyone should buy/build what works best for their lifestyle and needs. The auto is nice and smooth but I enjoy rowing my own gears and used the $2k I saved to buy mods. #JTRSPARTACUS #savethestick

@chanerx Жыл бұрын

Problem with the auto is it will not let you slip down to a lower gear manually at times when you need it due to preventing from reveling up engine too much and only goes up to a certain RPM on its own. Manual is nice to just release the clutch and Krawl away.