I think you mean that it's not a traditional cvt, it's still a type of continously variable transmission, it's just specifically designed for the hybrid setup. Like a moped uses a CVT, but that's a centrifugal unit quite different from the cvts used in a Nissan.

Thank you! I really do love the design of the new Tucson but I agree, it is something that I can't see aging near as well as the RAV4. You can't go wrong, id just nail down what your priorities are. I like the camry too and I might personally recommend that for people that do more highway driving or dont use it as their main family car. However, the practicality of the RAV4 and the lack of any big drawbacks makes it easier to recommend to more people. Especially with the ride height, after seeing my gf or friends hit numerous curbs and damage their cars, that extra ground clearance can save a big headache if you let others drive it!

So what did you get?

@@k3iler05 2023 Camry Hybrid LE. Was able to get one for msrp. Rav4 Hybrid was always going to be over msrp, or there would be pricey dealer add-ons, or both, and I wouldn't do that. Still considering a GR86 or GTI.

It's really unfortunate what it has come to, glad you got your XLE ordered at least!

The xse has a tuned suspension along with “fake leather” seats than are better than cloth seats on the SE

I actually mentioned that at the end there very briefly (I wanted to go more in depth but the video was getting really long). There was a fuel pump recall on these but some with 2021s have still reported it. I believe it's for both of them, not just the hybrid and it might be more so down to the fuel tank design triggering the stopper at the pump. A lot of people don't report it though, maybe just because they get used to it. My truck won't fill up near it's 20 gallon tank either (09 tacoma)

There's a video of some guys running a Rav4 Hybrid way past empty. I believe they said they went over 100mi after the fuel light came on, which would account for over 2 gallons of gas in reserve, this could be why it doesn't fill up all the way. If you run a hybrid completely empty, you need the dealership to clear a bunch of codes before it can restart, so I think Toyota programmed the light to come on earlier to prevent this from happening.

@@GriffXJ was it a new one? That's very interesting!

@@Realistick I think it was a 2019. I'll see if I can find the video and share it with you

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My grandfather has a 2003 Highlander with over 200k miles. The new RAV4 is definitely awesome but it will never be as good as an old Toyota..

Pretty standard for the class though in terms of sizing and lack of passenger adjustment. You should get a Venza if you need more car. And the offroad trims here really are just for the people that want it to look a little tough and feel like they can go offroad but they won't actually take it anywhere!

@@Realistick ​ Thanks for replying. This is a tough one for me because I like everything else about the RAV4, except maybe the road noise. I'm coming from a Subaru perspective on things, and Toyota's soft-road claims need a bit more work. Conversely, Scooby does better with AWD but not keen on the CVT or the reliability record for the past decade. I don't drive enough to warrant a hybrid, so the next one will be gas only. I don't care about power liftgates or wireless charging if the ergonomics aren't right. The market encourages gadgetry but the money would be better spent on making the car more comfortable or useful. For instance, the roof rails are gone on the LE now. Stripping the utility out of SUV. A base Crosstrek gets roof rails. And I hear the base Corolla cross doesn't get a rear wiper. These things are around 40 grand after taxes etc. now. I think we have a right to expect more. And by more I don't mean a heated steering wheel. Prices on the Adventure are nearly base model 4Runner now, and I get that it's the real deal. But I'm not going mudding or rock-crawling. I just want a simple crossover that's good on gas and can haul my stuff to a campsite on a muddy track. I want to know that someone can pull me out if I do get stuck. Thanks for another excellent video. Love your coverage of the dwindling manual transmissions in cars.

@@Central-Scrutinizer I like conversation on these kinds of things so im all for it. I would also take good ergonomics over extra features and i personally think toyota does a decent job of this, but i find the mazda cx5 to be among the best in this class but the bar is relatively low there. You kind of have to go Venza or Outback to get into the more substantial, comfy part of the mainstream 2 row crossovers. Additionally, you can likely still buy roof rails for a base model and you don't get them on a base Forester either. Weird that they would remove them though, I didn't even catch that!

Add some hooks yourself, it’s really not hard at all……

It reminds me of one in most ways, outside of the course noise

Im sorry the large waterbottle test (40 oz) offended you :( I include that because it gives you a good idea of cupholder size and matters to some. As far as the CVT, it's specifically designed for hybrid use and doesn't have the traditional cone setup, instead using the front motor to make it all work to my understanding. Im not an engineer, nor is this video about how the eCVT works. But this is a continuously variable transmission nonetheless. It has an infinite amount of gear ratios and performs as such. It's a very interesting transmission that maybe I could have dived into more, but for all practical purposes, it's a type of CVT!

@@Realistick Sorry If I over stated things about the bottle holder test. Was more trying to communicate that this has never been a thing before and it seems like car reviewer channels have to pick on one or two nits the car companies are OK with or they lose access. But the eCVT is most Definitely not something to lump in with the mechanical CVT which uses belts and pulleys and which had teething pains in it early development. For he Toyota hybrids the system is vastly different with none of the bugaboos the mechanical belt and pulley systems of the early Nissan units.

@@edwardzdankiewicz9068 oh, I don't get my cars from the manufacturers, I can roast them however I please! I guess I was more so focusing on how the car performs like a regular cvt, not necessarily how the design is a superior one for reliability. Something I might include in later reliability segments for hybrid toyotas. Although it's also worthy to note that toyotas regular CVTs have been much more dependable than most other competitors.

@@Realistick its called cup holder not bottle holder for a reason. good review nonetheless