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Could it be possible that Toby started the killing well before moving to Costa Rica and actually went to Costa Rica to evade police because he was getting nervous? He never had much of a motive to leave the country.

Something that was missed: Dwight's costume of the Strangler, based on police sketches, has a longcoat similar to the one Toby occasionally wears.

What about in the episode where Andy gets attacked by the young girl in the parking lot and then Toby does a talk on self defence... Telling people to go straight for the throat. MIND BLOWN!

The video is scarier because of the lower pitched theme of The Office

This video was legit scary.

Love that the background music is actually the theme in a freaky minor key arrangement

This is inappropriate.

"The final part part of the story is the trial of the strangler - that Toby himself is on the jury. Throughout the whole trial Toby goes through several different phases. At first he is excited to be part of it, more excited than most people would to serve in this position." I could maybe see how this might be evidence, but Toby seems to have an obsession with crime novels/stories. Wouldn't anyone interested in crime novels be excited to by on a jury?

i just realized this song playing is a minor version of the theme lol

I believe that if Toby was the Scranton Stranglers, the first time he ever strangled someone was before he left for Costa Rica in season 4 during the "Night Out" episode. I believe that after touching Pam's leg and suddenly jumps the fence, Toby's embarassment and rage causes him to stop and strangle someone for a sense of release and control. it also make sense that he would want to leave the country after killing someone. and alot of the times with serial killers, the most guilt happens after the first kill. I believe that while in the hospital for all those months, toby looked back at his first kill over and over again and decides that's the only time he ever felt in control and decides to go after that control

During S9 E19 Clark walks in while Toby and Jim are talking about couples therapy and he muttered "I'm going to kill him" under his breath.

Ok. Now I really want a criminal minds/office crossover fanfic in which Toby is found to be the Scranton Strangler.

I always found it bizarre that a professional killer like the Scranton strangler attacked Toby and didn't kill him. A professional strangler would finish the job so how else did he get out alive?

This reminded me of that one episode where Toby gives Michael a therapy session. At on point in the episode, Ryan mentions how "psychiatrists tend to be more crazy than their patients."

Also, Toby says he always keeps his passport on him to be ready for adventure... maybe he is keeping his passport on him to flee from the police?

Toby tried to call the office right before he went down the office street.

Why is this creeping me out this much...

It was Gabe.

I get chills when he says "you'll see."

In Season 8 Episode 10. During the reverse pranking between Jim and Dwight, Toby speaks up about how the situation relates to his novel about framing. He then goes on about planting evidence and fingerprints. For a quiet person like Toby, he would have a lot of interest in that subject to get in the conversation.

I thought he didn't want to go to church cause he dropped out of seminary

We need Chad Flenderman on the case

In S3:21 "Women's Appreciation" @ 3:58 - When cops are in the parking lot looking for Phyllis' flasher, Toby comes into the office. He asks why all the cops are there in a worried tone. Could just be genuine curiosity, also could be that he was worried he was going to be caught for the Scranton Stranglings.

creed is the Scranton strangler

I also found it strange that he of all people taught Pam how to punch correctly. Also the episode he announces he's leaving he sprints and jumps that very tall gate. Why is mild mannered Toby able to do all of this? He breaks into homes and often fights his victim until he's able to choke them.

I empathise with Toby, poor guy was always being stepped on, I really feel sorry for him.

There is no mention of the person in that green car being caught. Since it was in the parking lot that one time, it could have very well been Toby in that car. The call could have been Toby himself confessing to his closest friends that he was the strangler. Directly during the time he felt there was no chance he could get away.

This theory is definitely interesting but as is clear, there are many loopholes which sort of decrease the chance of this theory being true. Still, it is fucking awesome how this theory gives more of a purpose and a morbid complexity to a guy who on the surface is dull and passive.

I'm now going to rewatch the whole series for clues.

There are several "Toby is the Scranton strangler" videos. This is the best one IMO. Well thought out and out together.

I buy it. Toby is a meek man who isn't well liked and doesn't get a lot of credit because of his personality. A lot of serial killers want that recognition through media coverage, to become this infamous monster, as a way to feel important, special, immortalized, or respected. It would make sense that a guy like Toby could seek out the approval in such a way if he struggles socially and is otherwise looked over. His obsession with the Scranton Strangler could support this theory. On one hand, if he isn't the strangler, his involvement on the jury gives him a sense of importance and value he doesn't normally receive from others by being involved in such a high profile case, hence why he needs to talk obsessively about it and insert himself in the narrative. On the other hand, if he were the strangler, his obsession with the case further feeds into that feeling of self-importance similar to someone like the BTK killer, who reveled in his notoriety gained through media coverage. Being on the jury and further investigating the case for his book is also a way to control the story to keep himself from getting caught.

All this in a show about a paper company and its workers

PLEEASE God let there be a "spin off" of the *exact same show* The Office, but through Toby's psychopathic Point Of View & let this be a horror show a direct opposite to the original comedy where everything is upside down and Michael Scott & Jim are "bad" !!! 🙏🏽 🙏🏽🙏🏽

the office is a comedy but then you add this music and seriousness to it, it makes it a darker show

Ryan Howard said "therapists are the crazy ones themselves" in the episode where Michael needs to be counseled

Not to mention the fact that in the series finale, after Toby left the office, he moves to New York. Was it to write his novels or was it that he wanted to start a new life and felt he couldnt stay in Scranton anymore?

Just watched the finale. When Toby cries because of 'Everything', it makes the theory more strong.

We need Agent Michael Scarn to get on the case

If Toby is in the jury he should state that the strangler is guilty not innocent in order to successfully frame him

I believe I know when the first killing happened and it closely coincides with Jim buying the house for Pam in the episode 'Frame Toby', which is the very first episode that Toby is in when he comes back from Costa Rica. Three episodes later, in 'The Duel', Meredith says her neighbor was killed last night. This would be the first, so he would not yet have the nickname The Scranton Strangler. I just started watching again since I saw this video and it is really making sense. There seem to be so many hints peppered throughout. Michael even compares him to the killer in Scream, which before I just thought was hilarious but now is pretty eerie.....

so....Toby divorced his wife...do we ever see her on the show? Did he really divorce her, or was she truly his first killing that gave him a taste for murder?

this makes more sense than the other version i watched. this is good.

4:18 that Mercury is the same damn car. There’s no denying that

I just realized the music in the video is just the office theme transposed into a minor key

How did Dwight never guessed? It would be awesome if he did

Great synopsis, all the evidence fits and I can't see how the Strangler could be anyone other than Toby. I believe the showrunners are even confirming that Toby is the Strangler by having Michael Scott say that he loves the Strangler not realising it is Toby, which makes him paradoxically love and hate the exact same person. Given the several years of Michael voicing his hatred for Toby leading up to that moment, it seems like they had this idea from the start (or at least very early on).

"Of all the idiots in all the idiot villages in all the idiot worlds- you stand alone, my friend" Michael to Toby on his last day.

Toby is definitely the Scranton strangler let's look at his life his ex wife divorced him and re-married and he doesn't see his daughter but most likely pays alot in child support. He works for HR, he's hated by his boss and other co-workers. The girl he falls in love with Pam Marry's Jim and has two kids, also do you notice he moves to Costa Rica after Kevin mentioned to Jan they found the body of one of the Scranton strangler's victim? Do you notice the killings completely stop then restart when he moves back? Also I think everyone in the office knows he's the Scranton strangler but simply ignore it. The fact that he's always trying to convince anyone who listens that the man they convicted is actually innocent proves he's the actual killer and his colleagues most likely know it's him because in the episode The Chase he calls the office and his number pops up on the screen.

He also teaches everyone in the office "self defense" to show them how to escape an attacker

Also, to add to the theory, Toby's anger towards the police during "Frame Toby" when they went through his desk!

The call on Toby's desk might be from someone who knew Toby was the strangler and wanted to check if Toby is okay or if he is actually chased.Also he was good in self defense,mystery books,therapy skills which are closely related to crime and often serial killers have interest in .

now ima have dreams of toby strangling me. thanks

Great video

Creed can be it in the episode with the board game, he learned that there was a murder and he bolted away

I think your theory has some validity to it. I thoroughly enjoyed this video, and it brought to mind that one episode where Toby introduces himself as "Tony"

"This is a too big mystery for me. I think we'd better call in the Hardly Boys."

And two other things interesting. 1- Episode 19 Season 8: Toby messes up his name and call himself Tony. That's so weird... 2- Episode 9 Season 8: When Toby ask about the passport of Susan the wife of Robert California. Toby: Did you bring your passport with you? Susan: Who walks around with their passport? Toby: Well, I do. Always ready for adventure. *** Toby is always ready to go out of the country. lol

I'm surprised you didn't mention how the strangler drives past the office, finally giving the office something to make him the topic of conversation for once but somehow alluded the police that day. They never say that he was captured during that chase. He also could have been calling at the time to confess, fearing that he was actually caught.

Don't you think its weird that Robert California invite Toby with the winners team in ''The List'' episode? I mean, the guy can read anyone just by looking at them... I like to believe that Robert deduce that Toby is the strangler and he respect him for that. Great video by the way!

Just have to say that being in HR probably means that Toby makes more than anyone else in the office

i also think toby always brought up the stranglers innocence either bc he liked the attention it gave but that eventually stopped then i think it was just him bringing it up wanting people to know its him but not actually telling them like bragging about his deeds or trying to get the attention the strangler would

He also says in a episode he always keeps his passport on him maybe that's so he could get away quick

How do we know for sure that it was someone from "The Office" cast?

Toby might be the flasher too...

Plot twist Creed is the actually the Scranton strangler

What if Toby *created* the whole situation with Pam just so he had the perfect reason to escape to Costa Rica without anyone being suspicious? What if he placed his hand on her thigh on PURPOSE , knowing full well that everyone is watching and that everyone will take that as the reason why Toby escapes to Costa Rica and won't think twice about it?

HOLY SHIT. Remember "Frame Toby" episode? That Michael tried to frame Toby and Toby was not mad at him, but at the fact he wasted police officer's time?

Assuming the role of advocatus diaboli here: - The car is most likely just a reused asset to save money and there is no larger meaning behind it. Aside from that. it is not even Tony´s car in the show. - If Tony was the Scranton Strangler, he would have no reason to draw suspicion away from George Howard Skub like he did, since that would potentially endanger him. - He is conflicted with his role as part of the jury and the verdict because he confesses that he was peer pressured into following the guilty verdict of the rest of the jury despite having doubts of Skub´s guilt, and not because he is the SS. The fact that he was peer pressured into voting "guilty" by the other jury members is very much in line with his overall character and not a sign of remorse for supposedly finding an innocent man guilty. He is probably unable to get over it because him being a part of the jury was his moment in the light and even then he was not able to stand up for himself. - He shows absolutely no sign of physical aggression (no matter the circumstance he has to endure) during the entire show. - We do not know anything about the victims of the SS, so assuming they are some sort of proxy for Toby to lash out against because of Pam´s engagement or Michael´s abuse is an assumption without the slightest form of proof or indication. - Tony is absent during a lot of episodes, but the SS does not strike during the overwhelming majority of them. In fact, we only learn directly about one attack and can deduce from the headline that there must have been at least another. - Tony is most likely attacked by Skub in prison because he told him that he was on the jury that sentenced him to death.

I do agree with the theory that Toby is the Strangler, some of your points are very well thought out! However, you definitely lost me at the car chase scene. I've read some of the other Toby theories out there and i think collectively you nail it. The car swaps seem pretty valid, Toby likely sold his first car before he leaves for Costa Rica, purchasing a new one on his return to Scranton. This car is likely the green one spotted in the chase scene and parking lot. I believe Toby dumps that car after the police chase, which would explain the third car scene at the farm. The following events still baffle me: the false suspect who is imprisoned, how Toby impossibly ends up on the jury... The idea of Toby pathetically admitting his guilt to the real strangler and being subsequently strangled, is not hard to imagine though There are several odd factors noticeable about the car chase scene. Toby is not there, yet his computer is left on. Did Toby leave his computer on this webpage on purpose? Perhaps Kelly noticed the chase and told the rest of the office to come and watch, which would explain why they are all in the annex at once. I definitely subscribe to the theory that Toby is calling the office from his car to confess to the rest of the staff, knowing they are watching his computer. It always seemed odd to me that Michael picks on Toby so significantly, considering he likes just about everyone he meets. It's like Sgt. Doakes who can see through Dexter's mask. Also, his detective novel/podcast stories imply that the criminal in his story has a young, lady accomplice who joins in (Pam maybe?!). This sounds like Toby is writing about his own crimes in a fictitious detective fantasy. Anyway... my paranoia has ran dry and thats all i can think of. Peace x

In episode seven from season 6 called Mafia - Toby tells Michael "That's why they pay me the big bucks" in order to talk to Pam because Michael was seeing her mother, also Toby is most likely calling his own phone because he knows his own extension - in the episode when Jim was seeing Katey and Pam tells him "you could give your phone extension, for obvious reasons". What i always thought was interesting was how Toby reacted when Michael framed him for marijuana possesion, he kind of freaked out a bit more then the calm HR rep we are used to since a normal guy that had nothing to fear would just be casual about it. Also when he is asked if he has any weapons he reaplies with a: WHAT ?!. That is all I have for now

Great theory but I dont think they intended to create an Easter egg or mystery out of it so the writers probably didn't attempt lead that idea on.

You forgot to mention another clue. When Robert California's wife was briefly hired she went to talk to Toby and he asked her for a few documents, including her passport, and she says "Who walks around with their passport?", and Toby replies "I do. I'm always ready for an adventure", which could mean he is always prepared to run away in case something goes wrong or he's discovered. There are too many coincidences. I think the writers planted all these details on purpose. ;)

Good video and up until yesterday night I didn’t believe Toby was the Scranton strangler however now I do and compared to some of the other videos I’ve seen you have some really good points

Thank you Scranton strangler, you just took another man’s breath away

When I started watching this I thought this video would humorously depict how awkward and almost creepy Toby is but I now actually believe he was a Scranton strangler. I think your right, he started strangling after Costa Rica and major events in Pam's relationship caused him to strangle. However I believe he did not go to see George Howard Scub as a strategic move, but because he couldn't live with the gilt. Throughout the last few seasons he struggles to give himself worth, and its obvious that he is struggling with something, however I think most people believe this is guilt for not standing up for himself and chasing after Pam. Anyway, great vid!

Wow, nicely done. Hadn't heard this theory before.

An episode that you forgot to meantion was Season 2 Episode 22 "Casino Night" Toby beat Micheal in a game of cards and was interviewed afterwards. "It felt really good taking money away from Micheal. Gonna chase that feeling." -Toby

This is really grasping at straws here.....a lot of speculation and little hard evidence to support it

There is a clip that shows a length of rope under his desk at one point during the series as well

The phone thing is so stupid. If he was going to confess he would call the main number / Pam. Why would he call his own phone? Nobody else would answer it anyway. No family to call him? Um ... Rory?

Not disputing this, but why did you say he had no family to call him when he at least has a daughter, a brother, and an ex-wife (who isn't family, but would definitely have reasons to call him)?

Holy Shit that last thing you said about indifference gave me fuckin goosebumps great video!

Bro this is the most detailed theory out there I've heard 8 others good work bro

And thats why he felt bad when the man accused of being the scranton strangler was sent to prison.

The car is creeds, u see when runs from from Michael in the "murder" episode

you suggest that his neck injury was the inspiration for strangling people, and then say that he probably strangled way before then

BRUHHHH 😭 this is too deep for me right now. I can't handle this lol. This was actually creepy af and eerily accurate

my 3 theories on who the Scranton stranglers is: Gabe Creed Toby

His neck gets injured because why? Maybe because, when strangling someone, how does the other defend? They choke the attacker as well. It only makes sense...

OMG!! Everything fits so perfectly...

What about when Toby visited the Scranton Strangler in prison?

wallahi, this music is so creepy LOL

Maybe Toby got away from the Police chase , and they captured the wrong car , thats why Toby says he believes that the guy in jail is innocent, and goes to secretly reveal himself to the innocent person in jail, and in return gets a strangled , a taste of his own medicine. ??

The theory at 5:35 is a popular one that doesn't hold up well. It could be a work call, Toby could simply give his extension to people that need to reach him. (Corporate, other HR people, ect.)

The Strangler didn't choke people to death. Just until the victim passed out.

and he is obviously athletic he jumped the entire gate

They should make a crossover with the office and mindhunter, and uncover Toby as the strangler

Toby has a brother in Colorado, Rory Flenderson. That's who would call his work phone.

I feel it ironic that had a scene where he pitched his novel to Kathy Bates’ character, who is well known for starring in the movie Misery and is about her character kidnapping a famous writer.