Rebuilding a 283 Small Block for a Daily Driver C10 - HorsePower S12, E7

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POWERNATION

POWERNATION

4 жыл бұрын

The HorsePower guys help their buddies from Trucks! by building a decent daily driver motor for their Chevy C-10. Nothing fancy, just a basic, dependable street engine that makes good power.
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Magnaflow: Magna-Pack exhaust kit.
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_7645
Magnaflow: Three inch crossmember back system for GM A-Bodies, 100% Stainless Steel tubing, Tru-X crossover pipe.
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_7631
ARP: Head bolts, rod bolts, oil pump driveshaft, accessory kit.
BBK Performance: Cold air intake kit.
BBK Performance: Long tube ceramic coated header.
BBK Performance: Short mid x-pipe with catalytic convertors.
BBK Performance: Twin 62 MM Throttle Body.
BBK Performance: Underdrive pulley set.
BLP Products Inc.: Custom carb, 1432 CFM Holley Dominator style carb.
Crane Cams: Camshafts, springs and retainers.
Dupli-Color: Chevrolet Orange engine enamel.
Eagle Specialty Products: Stroker rotating assembly, H-beam rods, Arias pistons, Speed Pro bearings.
Edelbrock: 600 CFM Electric choke Performer series carb.
Edelbrock: Cam kit with lifters and lube, Timing set, & Pushrods.
Edelbrock: Mechanical fuel pump.
Edelbrock: Performer EPS intake manifold with oil fill tube.
Eibach: 1.3 Front/1.4 Rear lowering springs.
Federal-Mogul Corporation: Exhaust gaskets, intake gaskets, head gaskets, fuel pump gasket, plate to block gasket, rear main seal, valve cover gaskets, timing cover gasket, water neck gasket, oil pan gasket.
Federal-Mogul Corporation: Sealed Power .030 pistons, .030 rings, cam bearings, main bearings, rod bearings.
Fidanza: Chrome moly driveshaft.
Huntsville Engine and Performance: Porting and polishing heads, fitting block for machine work.
Loctite: Loctite sealers, thread locking compounds, gasket making compounds.
Mr. Gasket: Oil filter spin-on adaptor.
Pro 5.0: Short throw shifter.
Summit Racing: Carb studs, Air Cleaner, Distributor, Balancer and Flexplate with bolts, roller rockers, timing cover, timing tab, headers, ALT. bracket, oil pump and pickup, & World Products cylinder heads.
Summit Racing: Electric water pump by Proform.
Taylor Cable Products: Thundervolt 50 spark plug wire set.
Tire Rack: 19 x 8.5 ASA JH9 245/45R19 Yokohama Advan S4.
Zoom Performance: Flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, alignment tool.

Пікірлер: 617
@waynelovejr.1005
@waynelovejr.1005 2 жыл бұрын
The 283 and 327 were great engines back in the day. They ran well, and were almost indestructible.
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm Жыл бұрын
327 4 bolt double hump fuelie heads = my choice over 350 for street !
@63Imp283
@63Imp283 Жыл бұрын
@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm did they make a 4bolt 327...
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the 350 is more like a tire melter that can't get anywhere stalling while the 327 moves out perfect in all of the pony cars in mine opinion. 350 needs too much tire and that negates the extra cubes and fuel consumption.@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
@wildestcowboy2668
@wildestcowboy2668 8 ай бұрын
​@@zAvAvAzLoL your thinking about a 318. Everyone knows MOPAR ruled the heavy Chevy's
@dalton6786
@dalton6786 5 ай бұрын
im boutta start messing with a 283 that has been molested to 337 cubic inches
@GooniesNeverSayDie1980
@GooniesNeverSayDie1980 4 жыл бұрын
The days of being able to yank a powertrain/drivetrain completely, disassemble, fix/upgrade, reassemble, shove powertrain/drivetrain back in, crank up & drive off all in one day with sunlight the whole time using jacks, 6 hand tools, cardboard/wife's old dress & ingenuity with commonsenss, is gone but not forgotten....
@jamarjohnson1595
@jamarjohnson1595 3 жыл бұрын
Mannnnn you hit the nail on the head with that one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣💪 that's straight facts you just spoke
@johnderekmitchell1510
@johnderekmitchell1510 3 жыл бұрын
Take a day just get through all the electronics crap sorted before you even get to the engine to turn a wrench.
@ineffable1129
@ineffable1129 3 жыл бұрын
It's easier quicker to do today, with a factory setup there is no tuning needed at all, and even for a modded build you can tune EFI in the time it takes you re-jet a carb. Best of all it well never need a tune up again. Many cars have a engine harness with a hand full or less keyed connectors. Now if you've never done one before sure, but that would be true if you've never done a older engine too.
@warrenpuckett4203
@warrenpuckett4203 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing they did in 1981. 283 block and crank 350 pistons. (327 Cubic inch ?). The connecting rods well just a bit a problem but back then (1981) still around. 1968 1.98 heads with hardened seats. The goal was 9.5 to 1 compression to be able to run 93 octane gasoline. Low emission, high torque cam. Oh and get better gas mileage in the '69 suburban. Ran good. The gas mileage. Nope. Actually less than the cracked block 350. Even with a wide radio 4 speed instead of a THM 400 still got 9 MPG. It would break the tires loose and smoke 'em with a Holley 450 economaster. The 4.11 rear end did not help the gas mileage either. You want the horses and torque at lower RPMs because the stock valves, push rods and springs should NOT be pushed past 5500 RPM in a regular use anyway so 450 CFM is enough. Oh you can get more RPM with bigger springs(did that). You also need heavier oil to keep the cam and lifters lubed from the higher spring pressure also high volume and high pressure pump( did that too). I thought that 283 on the dyno would pull more horsepower but maybe if it was properly broken in might get a bit more ponies out of it. I drove a lot of test cars for Ford and they notice that ones I drove during break in did better at 5.000 miles MPG than most. They started using the valet/transport settings for the 1st 1000 miles on some and just let the other drivers drive them like a beater. Yes 2021 engines do have a break in period. Mixing aluminum heads, copper radiators and heater cores and iron blocks is also not a good idea. Unless you are just racing it. Also draining the coolant during the winter and parking it. Also don't loan it to someone that swears they have driven a high performance vehicle. They will find a tree with it. AS for the top speed in that old suburban? Well would do 165 and I did not have brass balls big enough to push faster than that. That was at 4500 RPM.
@billhayward2668
@billhayward2668 3 жыл бұрын
270 hp for a daily driver sounds like a great package! For some,when you have had one of these little motors in your past,they tug at those heart strings!
@stuartbuckley8720
@stuartbuckley8720 3 жыл бұрын
I would have opted for a RV highway towing cam to increase the TQ. Still a good build.
@gpt5002
@gpt5002 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartbuckley8720 I'm sure it's bc they wanted to show hp #'s. Owners going to be disappointed when it doesn't pull itself out of park. Haha... I own one... Has-been built with dual springs yet has sat for a long time and I'm unsure of the builder so I get to discover someone's mistakes I feel. Think I'm more excited to see whatperson did old school tricks to mine. Haha. Or if it was some kid🤣
@stuartbuckley8720
@stuartbuckley8720 3 жыл бұрын
@@gpt5002 those 283's can make good power and can rev pretty high if built right. We use to race them, long, long ago.
@gpt5002
@gpt5002 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartbuckley8720 actually starring at a set of powerpak heads right now.lol. I'm excited to see what I can bring of this carnage I bought. Heads turned out to be the best but I have a cam for a 65 vette. My dad kept it for a million years. From what I gather it's the 190horse cam. Maybe more with a 4barrel. After driving a small displacement v8 a few years ago I really enjoyed the way it pulled.. didn't have to slam ya back just move when you want it to move. Gonna make this happen. I'm excited. If all fails I could sell it as a 327 like the guy did to me.lol. jk. I'll either keep it scrap it or blow it up. I keep hearing about this cam... The 327 cam... Duntov or something... I just feel this cylinder head and bore size needs something a little less. Why I'm favoring the stock vette cam over over camming
@gpt5002
@gpt5002 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartbuckley8720 I do have to say the casting flash from the crank to the heads is insane even more silly is someone had been in this and just left the shrapnel. Looked down in the water jacket in between the cylinders and it appears it has a weld??? I have to clean it really good but I'm scared I was sold a boat motor which now may be a boat anchor. Ever inspected the cooling channels and seen cast that appeared to resemble weld?
@Bumblebee4788
@Bumblebee4788 4 жыл бұрын
Built my first car 62 BelAir's 283 with a 327- 350 hp cam, 302 valve springs, headers, duel point distributor, 4GC carb and manifold off a 65 283. Put it together in a freezing shed on the ground in the winter. Bolted it up to my cast iron Powerglide and smoked the tires for a block! All back in 1977!
@willhorting5317
@willhorting5317 Жыл бұрын
Back in the late '70s, my folks had a '66 C10 with a stock 283 & 4spd, that I drove to school. Given that it didn't have power steering or brakes, that 283 had more than enough "go" for a 15 yr old kid to get in a lot of fun...& trouble.😁 With the manual tranny, of course no "power braking" was needed to burn up the rear tires.😂 My folks were NOT the least bit happy about the tires. Made me pay for the second pair myself.😂
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm Жыл бұрын
you burnem you earnem !
@willgeo2215
@willgeo2215 Жыл бұрын
Back in 1983 I dropped a 283 in a 70 Nova that came with a straight six. Best decision I could have made. Many friends told me I should drop a 327 in it, but I was very pleased with the 283.
@jimthomas7251
@jimthomas7251 Жыл бұрын
The 307 is a 283 block with a 327 crank , The 283 could make 300hp The 307 could make 325hp The 327 could make 475hp
@khalihaddi6093
@khalihaddi6093 Жыл бұрын
@@jimthomas7251 het Jim I’m about to tread down my 283 with the powerpack heads any tips how to get the most out if it thanks
@jimthomas7251
@jimthomas7251 Жыл бұрын
@@khalihaddi6093 , to get the most out of it ? Don't buy a cheap rebuild kit , Start with Forged Pistons If you want hi horse power Get the best of everything so it can handle that hi horse power
@khalihaddi6093
@khalihaddi6093 Жыл бұрын
@@jimthomas7251 thank you for the info I will do that. Get the best I can.
@bradmefford5621
@bradmefford5621 Жыл бұрын
@@jimthomas7251 alot of people said the 307 was junk I had one in 70 Malibu and did a few mild things heads, cam, headers, intake and it ran in the low 14's with power glide they weren't that bad
@geeknproud321
@geeknproud321 2 жыл бұрын
The 283 is just a good design with all the right geometry to sustain high revs and take a beating without a lot of effort put into it. It's just balanced and weighted the right way to be conducive to it. Horsepower numbers are deceptive because it likes to rev so easily and quickly. It's different from a lot of other small blocks because of it.
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 3 жыл бұрын
first engine i ever rebuilt was a 283 when i was 14 with my friends grandpa he had us do the work y he pointed his finger . he went over everything with us the does and don't how to mic it . to make sure everything is right the first time . it was the best thing i have ever learn the grandpa's name or what we call him on the west coast is old man bell .
@johnpapa8681
@johnpapa8681 4 жыл бұрын
My first car was a '67 chevy impala. 283, 3 speed on the column, 2 door fastback. That car was problem free, got good milage, and was affordable. Too bad the way our auto industry has gone.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 4 ай бұрын
Thank you to everyone involved in this project.
@PilotOdyssey
@PilotOdyssey 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1966 Belair with a 283 use to shift it at 6500 RPM hundreds maybe even thousands of times, engine was balanced at the factory you could put a dime on the air cleaner and rev it to 2500 rpm and it would not move it was so smooth. I put 165k miles on it frame rusted out sold the engine to a friend he installed fresh coat of paint and installed in his boat.
@redrumss3464
@redrumss3464 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 283 with a .040 bore displacing 289ci. I fitted vortec heads and an L79 muscle car cam topped off with an Rpm air gap and 650 double pumper. That little motor ran strong and pulled really hard up top…. Felt like the power band never died.
@thecloneguyz
@thecloneguyz Жыл бұрын
Seen a TWIN TURBO the other day 9000rpm @ 40lbs of boost @ 680hp @ 559lb ft torque
@Spudderr
@Spudderr 10 ай бұрын
I’ve got almost the exact setup with a different cam. It’s an absolute riot to drive every day
@raybabinraybabin7777
@raybabinraybabin7777 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the most dependable motor ever made they can handle abuse and neglect and still run forever
@Pwaak
@Pwaak Жыл бұрын
Road and Sea! Had a 28' Chris-Craft powered with a 283 marine version!
@patfromamboy
@patfromamboy Жыл бұрын
I have one in my 66 Chevelle that runs well. I want to rebuild it because it’s a 195hp and needs more power. I have a 427 in my other 66 Chevelle.
@angrymitch1566
@angrymitch1566 Жыл бұрын
@@patfromamboy327 crank, make a 302
@bbouch5771
@bbouch5771 4 ай бұрын
283 crank in a 327 makes a 302
@fishlessfishermenfishingan4613
@fishlessfishermenfishingan4613 9 күн бұрын
I hope so. We have one thats been sitting since 1975 in a gmh assembled 62 bel air. Once we chuck some wheels on it we have to try get it running 😂
@the4flatgarage
@the4flatgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Had a '66 283 that I put aluminum forged pistons in, and a '57 Corvette dual 4 barrel solid lift cam. Power- pak heads rounded off the top-end with a dual plane and a 600 cfm carb. Got a 2 speed slush-box (aluminum, and put the combo in a pink '73 Ford Courier with a Cartunes decal that took up the whole back window. Bought the Courier from a guy named Matt, he was a drummer for a punk band. The ol' lady said I couldn't put it in the truck...next thing she heard was...cackle, cackel, etc. It would lay one foot of rubber and gone! Miss it.
@StreetDisciple86
@StreetDisciple86 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, Tommy Boshers, Mark, Ryan, LT and Pat Tomlinson are some of the best I've seen to do it! RIP Jessi Combs, the original Extreme 4x4 and Mythbusters host!
@born2soon
@born2soon 3 жыл бұрын
My first car, a '66 Chevy Bel Air, had a 283 in it. Sweet running engine that never used a drop of oil.
@jeff0nyschuk670
@jeff0nyschuk670 8 ай бұрын
These 283 or 327 were a great engine back in the old days.Too bad we didn't have the better oil quality like we have now,,This is the main reason these modern engines are doing very well 😀
@ricardososa1761
@ricardososa1761 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 67 chevelle 2 door hardtop with a 283 an 3 on the tree love these 283 small blocks built to last
@1575murray
@1575murray 4 жыл бұрын
There were millions of them built from 1957-1967. In 1968 they got stroked with a 327 crank to create the 307. Eventually the 350 replaced the earlier engines until the 305 came out in the late 1970s due to fuel economy and emissions regulations.
@johnrebus1641
@johnrebus1641 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the 283 is an engine with real character..... unlike der 350
@marvin984
@marvin984 3 жыл бұрын
I found it easier to install the cam before the crank . That way I can reach into the block and help guide the cam through the bearings .
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 3 жыл бұрын
Only way to do it.
@boxerfan2
@boxerfan2 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I'll try that from now on.
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever it takes to get it done right
@Thundarr995
@Thundarr995 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer to do it that way if possible.
@nojunkwork5735
@nojunkwork5735 Жыл бұрын
After the cam bearing the next thing that should always be next is the cam in case a cam bearing got nicked during installation. It's a lot easier to deal with it on pretty much a bare block than when you have the rotating assembly already in place.
@chrisrye9128
@chrisrye9128 4 жыл бұрын
Fun old skul build! Simple. Affordable. Nostalgic. Classic. 👍
@davescbradiorepair8195
@davescbradiorepair8195 Жыл бұрын
Love the 283 Chevy and 289 Ford I have friends that run both of them and spin them over 10 grand in superstock.
@sick86stang
@sick86stang 3 жыл бұрын
My dad built a 283 back in 1969 the year I was born and put in a 1955 chevy truck it had the truck four speed with granny low..the gears in the rear end on those trucks are very low so he pulled the rear end out of a 56 caddy.. he had cherries bombs on it sounded like it came straight out of hell that truck would run the highway at 100 mph no sweat he drove that truck up until 86 he retired it the only engine work he ever did to it was some lifter adjust and of course valve cover gaskets..love those 283 and 327's
@dukeman7595
@dukeman7595 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the way you guys explained how things are to be installed in a certain way and why..
@Helloboby
@Helloboby 9 ай бұрын
Just bought a 283. So ready for it to be my first rebuild
@hammer6238
@hammer6238 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez you guys got those rod ends too hot.
@travisbooth7106
@travisbooth7106 2 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to take that torch away from them lol
@rustybritches6747
@rustybritches6747 Жыл бұрын
I really really want to disagree but yeah, you're right, probably a little to hot! LOL
@Jake1973_
@Jake1973_ Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking
@sheltonsaved2001
@sheltonsaved2001 Ай бұрын
I thought the same thing
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. In the future, I want to build 283 again. I had so much fun. And use updated technology and parts. This motor is a classic. I love all of the Edelbrock products you used on your motor. I am impressed!!! Thanks for sharing.
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm Жыл бұрын
nice enough to put it in the LOUNGE ROOM !
@otsenres1636
@otsenres1636 4 жыл бұрын
Nice looking little motor. I love these crossover episodes.
@scottbatey3130
@scottbatey3130 2 жыл бұрын
283, second gear scratch, with a 3 in the tree!! Ohh the good old days!!!
@jackkallemdjian3945
@jackkallemdjian3945 4 жыл бұрын
Those rods got too hot boys
@Chevymonster203
@Chevymonster203 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are taking the hardness out of them, heating metal to red hot loosens up the metal crystal structure as it cools. That rod might become far softer than it was before.
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chevymonster203 it'll be fine I dont think engine is revving past 5500
@flinch622
@flinch622 4 жыл бұрын
What about... mic the pins and ends before even applying heat? An interference fit has its limits. Torch works ok, but maybe go a little more gentle with propane instead of a Victor wrench.
@HPDrifter2
@HPDrifter2 3 жыл бұрын
No kidding! "We're just gonna heat this small end to a full cherry red..." Next time try a pot of oil heated to 250 F., or a $30 toaster oven turned to 250F...
@idontgotnothin
@idontgotnothin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chevymonster203 you really mansplaining to a bunch of men?
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 4 жыл бұрын
This shows why the old original SBC so great. An amazing engine and so easy to work on.
@VinnyMartello
@VinnyMartello 3 жыл бұрын
I built a dual quad 283 a few years ago. The “alternative” motors are under appreciated.
@bunk-bn9eo
@bunk-bn9eo 3 жыл бұрын
How'd it run?
@VinnyMartello
@VinnyMartello 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sounded different. Ran great!
@rob1248996
@rob1248996 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I needed a break from riots and protests.
@nigel8649
@nigel8649 3 жыл бұрын
Now that Kamalho is president, $5 a gal gas is coming.
@saltycreole2673
@saltycreole2673 3 жыл бұрын
@@nigel8649 I live in Cali. Already here.
@bunk-bn9eo
@bunk-bn9eo 3 жыл бұрын
@@nigel8649 🙄
@geraldswain3259
@geraldswain3259 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys I'm from the UK, I thought I was seeing things when those small ends went cherry red !.
@lewisdeclouette6342
@lewisdeclouette6342 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see y'all do work again
@peggyparrow2059
@peggyparrow2059 5 ай бұрын
Grind the top off the front center oil gallery, some dbl. Roller chains will knaw at it and put small metal fillings in the motor !
@marlobreding7402
@marlobreding7402 4 жыл бұрын
In 1966 my Father and I rebuilt the 265 in our 1956 Chevrolet. I remember taking dad's white gas torch to burn all the carbon out of the valley breather can.
@albertgaspar627
@albertgaspar627 4 жыл бұрын
yep, gas back then had no detergents, and some motor oils had paraffin wax, hence the need for a 3,000 oil change when hot. Some old shade tree mechanics would run some ATF in the block before taking it out to tear apart, and laundry detergent in the radiator. Both had detergents in it, and the block would act like a washing machine on the hot cycle.
@johnsmith-qz4bv
@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 жыл бұрын
good hp and tourqe with that little 283.....great job guys
@albertman900
@albertman900 4 жыл бұрын
13:39 Buddy cut in there hahaha
@zarkeh3013
@zarkeh3013 4 жыл бұрын
I sawed Him too, ahhhck!
@JoseGarcia-jp8gs
@JoseGarcia-jp8gs 4 жыл бұрын
Scsred me haha
@nickstewart3295
@nickstewart3295 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you all to do one of these
@poortouringhotwiregarage5617
@poortouringhotwiregarage5617 4 жыл бұрын
Love how he kept rotating the set nut on the rocker while tightening the allen set screw. Guessing a few valves were hanging open when they started that pig up
@aeroflopper
@aeroflopper 3 жыл бұрын
thats what i thought, looked a bit tight. especially when the backfire occurred at start up.
@bjr2379
@bjr2379 4 жыл бұрын
Great guys and videos!
@KM-os4be
@KM-os4be 4 жыл бұрын
I always install cam cover and timming tab and harmonic balancer before heads go on. That way you can find a true TDC with a degree wheel and dial indicator. You would be amazed how many times I've seen TDC off on balancer and or timing tabs.
@crippleguy415
@crippleguy415 3 жыл бұрын
My 283 ran really good with a Duntov / GM 30-30 cam .
@bunk-bn9eo
@bunk-bn9eo 3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't too much cam? How many CFMs was your car?
@kh40yr
@kh40yr 4 ай бұрын
Just scored a 1959 thick wall 283. They made the thick wall from 59 to 61-62, but not all of them. The 327 was coming online for the Corvette in 62(Basically a thick wall 283 with 327 bits.). So this 283 will become a DZ 302, with much more spice. Some original angle plug 2.02's that are OEM. Will be a 11.75/1 with custom slugs. Found a GM DZ 780 Holley double, and intake from the swap meet. Just a fun project, not going to shake the world. 450hp maybe-ish.
@tubedude1077
@tubedude1077 4 жыл бұрын
best engine ever
@Scubasteve22
@Scubasteve22 2 жыл бұрын
Nice little motor! Wish they would email me for a cam recommendation. Always happy to help
@jekinneys
@jekinneys 2 жыл бұрын
Installed the rear main seal on center, supposed to be off center about 1/4 - 1/2". Adjusting hydraulic lash is a lot easier by doing 1/4 turn on the crack and adjust each one, if loose. Then 1/4 again and repeat till you don't have to adjust any. Then final turn to 1/2 or 3/4 turn each one and done. No mistakes or getting lost. As long as it's loose adjust to zero lash.
@willhorting5317
@willhorting5317 Жыл бұрын
Always loved the 283 V8.
@tedmartin4882
@tedmartin4882 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video but how about some details, like is the cam stock? or slightly larger? How do the heads compare to the stock heads? Are the intake valves larger? What about combustion chamber CC? Compression ratio? This info would be helpful to anyone building a 283.
@flinch622
@flinch622 Жыл бұрын
As best I could tell...43610 for the heads. Thats 170 cc runners, 1.94/1.5 valves, and 67cc chambers - which makes sense for the displacement as a starting point. Sealed power 4 relief pistons are basic: near 2.5cc worth of pockets [and 0.030" over]. Stock rods means no future power adders. Now some guesswork: original head gaskets were 4" bore, and I think anywhere from 0.018" to 0.026" - I'll use 0.021" [gm 3995633] to work towards a cam. I guess they used a 2102 cam gauging by dyno numbers, and at that point I'm like you: off the map. Thats a 278/288 cam [0.006" numbers] but the ramps are long: 204/214 duration @ 0.050". Video claims they re-used original crank and then [magically] its a stroker. Which is it? A 3" stroke... not that dyno run. Might not hardly run at all. 3.5"? still weak. Cam/head combo seems to arrive at a reasonable compression number with 3.75" stroke - even then I would be thinking of shaving the heads to get nearer 64cc chambers. Angle milling would have me worried about being thin reaching further to say...62cc. They went pure street grocery getter on this, and got off the shelf pistons/cam/heads close enough. Since they bought new pistons, I wonder how much they gave up not going to a 3cc pop up - they were going to spend on those parts anyway... 8.5/7.8 compression. Well, there's my two cents - that and $1.50 gets a cup of coffee. One of the tools I like to use is UEM's compression calculator, which I need: long trig calculations bore me.
@kencohagen4967
@kencohagen4967 3 жыл бұрын
Those 283’s were stout motors. A lot of guys used them in drag racing by revving them to 9,000 rpm or so. We built one for a 66 Chevy II 10.90 class car when I was in High School. It had a roller cam and a 1050 Dominator. Our teacher set the carb up to work on the little mill. When we took it to the winternationals at Beeline we lost in the f8nal round with a 10.89 to a winning 10.92. Breaking out sucks!
@internationaldynoauthority693
@internationaldynoauthority693 2 жыл бұрын
No they did not. Over 6500 they blow to pieces... Dreamer
@ls6-ss413
@ls6-ss413 4 жыл бұрын
Love the little 283's. They like to breathe
@hank1556
@hank1556 3 жыл бұрын
I CANT BREEEF
@stuartbuckley8720
@stuartbuckley8720 3 жыл бұрын
If you bore one .060, notch the block for oversized valves and add a .680 lift at .294 duration they run hard and rev like a over speed womens mouth. Great fun in a light car/ dragster.
@Brock_Landers
@Brock_Landers 3 жыл бұрын
So I realize that this engine is bound for a daily C-10 pickup, and it's never destined to be a high horsepower, high revving ripper, but it should definitely be adorned with some sort of 4 bbl carb and a dual plane intake. I REALLY hope that y'all put a 4 bbl carb on it. I've driven a 283 4 bbl 4 speed swapped 84 S-10 and it was alot of fun to drive. It didn't handle for crap, and it wasn't even that fast, but it felt so torquey and fun. It just had a typical Quadrajet on it.
@tedmann498
@tedmann498 4 жыл бұрын
Those 283 were awesome motors
@dreammerchant4442
@dreammerchant4442 4 жыл бұрын
283 is a block rarely seen today.. You can find 305 by the tons which is no punk by today standards. But yes this 283 is kool to bring back a nostalgic block to life..
@stevewelborn8744
@stevewelborn8744 4 жыл бұрын
I would have built a 305 instead because the 3.480 stroke works way better than 3.000 in a daily driver. I like 283's but not for a stock pickup.
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah 20 yrs ago if you built a 305 like I did they would have told you you got your 5s and 0s mixed up
@monadking2761
@monadking2761 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 I'm rebuilding now and one is matching number from 1961...
@dustinwegner853
@dustinwegner853 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a 283 with a Saginaw 4 speed for my 32 Roadster today. 400 bucks.
@Kelemen1
@Kelemen1 3 жыл бұрын
Just junked 3 of them kept the 3 inch steel crankshafts though
@BigUnk85
@BigUnk85 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet little 283
@dave1135
@dave1135 4 жыл бұрын
2:15. Didn't they get that rod end a little hot? The machine shop I use uses an inductor to heat the rod. And never to red hot
@TheRyancamaro
@TheRyancamaro 4 жыл бұрын
It makes less than 300hp. I wouldn't freak over it
@andrewevans1658
@andrewevans1658 4 жыл бұрын
As a machineshop owner, red equals ruined!!
@tenderblender945
@tenderblender945 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Evans I wouldn’t say ruined, but definitely needs to be rechecked for clearances and possibly re machined if out of spec
@jayarrison4807
@jayarrison4807 4 жыл бұрын
THE GENERAL , "That was pretty "funny" (ha!ha!)
@hollowpoint357sw4
@hollowpoint357sw4 3 жыл бұрын
I saw some red on one of them.
@sbjennings99
@sbjennings99 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome informative Video experience
@marcdemmon471
@marcdemmon471 Жыл бұрын
I like these guys don't argue with each other no drama
@TommyRibs
@TommyRibs 4 жыл бұрын
The little engine that could. It sounds great.
@MLFranklin
@MLFranklin 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice tutorial!
@melvinhunt6976
@melvinhunt6976 Жыл бұрын
This is more like 15-20 years ago. I enjoyed it then and now ! Was a good show! Didn’t have to bleep every forth word.
@FranciscoJimenez-bb7fk
@FranciscoJimenez-bb7fk 4 жыл бұрын
Bullet proof daily drivers is the only way to go!
@delljr2769
@delljr2769 4 жыл бұрын
Until some college kid in a Honda whips your ass and the only way you're thinking about going is home or to the shop to go bigger.
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 4 жыл бұрын
Just don't build a 5500 rpm pickup truck company van engine Or you'll be sorry you did it twice
@richardreed2333
@richardreed2333 4 жыл бұрын
Best of the Best
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 4 жыл бұрын
@@delljr2769 you mean the stripped, driver seat only, swiss cheesed, honda with 10k in the engine just to run 12s? id feel bad for the winner, regardless.
@juliuspreloznik7236
@juliuspreloznik7236 4 жыл бұрын
@@delljr2769 Just efi swap, add some LS injectors, flash a tune and you'll spank any rice shitbox.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 4 ай бұрын
One of my favorites
@nismo613
@nismo613 2 жыл бұрын
Are any of these shows still airing? Brings back a lot of memories watching them with my dad on weekend mornings
@DBSSTEELER
@DBSSTEELER 4 жыл бұрын
Man I would have loved to see this little motor with a set of TrickFlow Super 23 heads 10.5:1 compression and a roller cam upgrade.
@mikewillett5076
@mikewillett5076 4 жыл бұрын
THAAAANK YOU! I've been saying for years that everytime they do the rare 283 or 307 build they always make it a mundane combo. They don't have to go to the extreme and build something outrageous. Doesn't even need to be roller. How bout a 240° @ .050" solid flat on a 106? Easy 400+ hp altho probably at 7,000rpm.
@63Imp283
@63Imp283 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikewillett5076 that does sound great! But for a truck or a 63 Imp you would want low end torque. Vega...hell yeah
@gitlit1304
@gitlit1304 3 жыл бұрын
dad had a 63 three on the tree 283 truck. that lil engine was like the energizer bunny.
@samspade4050
@samspade4050 4 жыл бұрын
Heating the rods to install the connecting pins is fine but you only heat them to blue not red hot those rods are trash now
@jayarrison4807
@jayarrison4807 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the "correctional" information! When I saw that "piston rod end" get "red hot", I started to "wonder" about "specifics"!
@jayarrison4807
@jayarrison4807 4 жыл бұрын
HFX Turbo, (Another "interesting" and "informative" comment) ("Freezing" the pin!)(Good thinking!)(Thanks HFX Turbo) (Sam Spade had some good "advice" earlier also.) I did get a "kick" out of "Richard Skippers" remarks.(ha!ha!) "Richard" might well be right and I suppose that if Richard was right, the "end-result" probably wouldn't be too funny!
@paulsmallriver6066
@paulsmallriver6066 4 жыл бұрын
would they be warped now?
@montyoh5243
@montyoh5243 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Arrison bruh why are you putting quotations around every other word
@brownwrench
@brownwrench 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Way too hot.
@Gldn__yami
@Gldn__yami 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my first car, a 65 C10 in orange with white trim, it was my uncles then my grandpa’s truck, now mine. Looking forward to restoring it from my dad :) im 15
@jnljnl8485
@jnljnl8485 4 жыл бұрын
Mine had a 292 and an sm420 with 4.56 gears. It layed waste to a lot of automatic v8 trucks. High compression natural gas pistons were the secret to smog era v8 destruction.😂
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 4 жыл бұрын
the 292 ate many of the v8s of its time
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 4 жыл бұрын
wow, beating smog era v8s....real power houses....
@mphRagnarok
@mphRagnarok 4 жыл бұрын
He heated the rod head until it was red and COMPLETELY erased any heat treatment and tensile and material properties the metal had
@axlegrind4212
@axlegrind4212 4 жыл бұрын
SHE'S A RIPPER 67cc cylinder heads on stock flat top 283 pistons with .039" felpro calculates to a *whopping 7.5:1 compression ratio* 🤓
@timrowell94
@timrowell94 Жыл бұрын
327s and 283s are still the best motors for a hot rod or daily driver
@pauljanssen7594
@pauljanssen7594 2 жыл бұрын
Another way to adjust valves a very accurate too if you got a firing order 18436572 then when you just number one look at the firing order and look at this order 65721843 so when you're just number one cylinder number 6 should be between exhaust and intake and you keep going down the line till you finish to rotations and you're done just in the valves that easy. Also I usually Mark the dampener four ways and I just have to turn the crank a quarter turn each way watching the valves and opposite cylinders and voila fast and accurate way to adjust your valve train and even on solid cams it's a great way of getting your valve train adjusted.
@bradlyswisher5414
@bradlyswisher5414 3 жыл бұрын
Always watch this show since I was a kid when it started out with Chuck and Joe even till today after the name change. But it seem like Joe has always been a slacker making Chuck and Mike and buddy doing all the damn work. But Mike and Pat kick ass at it today. But I think Pat has forgotten more about engine building than Joe ever learned. God you got to love this show.
@doctorwhodj
@doctorwhodj 3 жыл бұрын
what wasit called before ? the name of the show ?
@Kenjiro5775
@Kenjiro5775 4 жыл бұрын
Heating those rods like that completely changes the heat treat and tempering if there was any. Not a great example. Shrinking the pin with liquid nitrogen is a much safer option if you want to employ heat sizing.
@bartsarton2212
@bartsarton2212 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. I'm not a metallurgist, but heating that con rod red hot just looked wrong.
@GreatLakesLogger
@GreatLakesLogger 2 жыл бұрын
Engine builders have done that for decades. And no, they didn't heat them red-hot. Maybe 2-300*
@geoffreymills9932
@geoffreymills9932 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome baby pumpkin, just right for a working truck
@Pgcmoore
@Pgcmoore 4 жыл бұрын
outstanding!!!
@Thundarr995
@Thundarr995 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of World Products and they were junk. About half of the valve springs cracked on both heads. Luckily the pistons didn't hit the valves. I got away with replacing the springs with Edelbrock springs. Then about 5000 miles later the valves were leaking and they needed to be rebuilt. I just went to the junkyard and picked up some used Vortec heads. My engine probably gained about 20hp with the Vortec heads over the 2.02 S/R Torquers that were previously on it.
@robertweitlauf4653
@robertweitlauf4653 4 жыл бұрын
Don't put assembly lube on the side of the lifter it keeps it from rotating on startup and it takes a long time for oil to flush it out.
@mattlemcke8101
@mattlemcke8101 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to start rebuilding one of these for my 1960 station wagon
@johnmilner7603
@johnmilner7603 4 жыл бұрын
I like Joe the best out of all the guys. Also Chuck Hanson who worked with Joe from the early days.
@CDSAutomotiveGarage
@CDSAutomotiveGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting a 283v8 for my 85 s10 so bad but you can't find them much anymore . I I definitely do not want a LS swap I don't care for any of that stuff . I like old school engines an don't want any computer controlled engines lol . I just love the sound of a 283v8
@jbar50
@jbar50 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. I’ve got a ‘61 Vette with a 283 that’s going to need to be rebuilt. It would be awesome if you can could re-visit the 283 for us old Vette owners and build a performance version. Maybe do the stage 1, 2, and 3 builds like other episodes.
@63Imp283
@63Imp283 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a fuelie? 315hp 283!
@dewightkey6975
@dewightkey6975 2 жыл бұрын
You guys do a great job all I had was a floor dyno a Clayton it would have been nice to have a engine dyno
@howardgibson8934
@howardgibson8934 3 жыл бұрын
good luck !
@jeremymurphy7320
@jeremymurphy7320 4 жыл бұрын
9:07 Mike may be the first engine builder that said "end pads" rather than "China walls"
@40calDeathPunch
@40calDeathPunch 4 жыл бұрын
Please explain "China Walls" ?
@jeremymurphy7320
@jeremymurphy7320 4 жыл бұрын
@@40calDeathPunch if you look at those parts of the engine from above, they resemble a super miniature curved portion of the Great Wall of China
@40calDeathPunch
@40calDeathPunch 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymurphy7320 Got it. Was half watching video and texting.
@GLF426
@GLF426 4 жыл бұрын
Ummm. China Rail ?
@crabbyfrog
@crabbyfrog 4 жыл бұрын
Chy’na Wall
@oldscout2514
@oldscout2514 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys l put a 327/375 hp cam in my 283. About 1500 miles later I discovered the studs were coming out of the heads, so l swapped to a set of 327/300hp heads, that had the studs pinned. That little motor would fly, l regret ever trading the yellow 57 that motor was in. Of all the cars l have owned l really think l liked that 57 best.
@thespiritof76..
@thespiritof76.. 4 жыл бұрын
One day tge 283 will be the most sought after small block ever built...
@sbjennings99
@sbjennings99 3 жыл бұрын
Not as long as there's a 289 around
@v8sserieschevy917
@v8sserieschevy917 3 жыл бұрын
I run one in my s10 blazer. It's a sweet little work horse. 330hp and 300 torque. It will fly. The world falls away and it's just you and and the sbc..... Like having a big fish on your line, not thinking bout rent, job, just no worries. The open road, the feel of 8 cylinders pumping. Freedom, the American dream. Beautiful.
@thespiritof76..
@thespiritof76.. 3 жыл бұрын
@@sbjennings99 you can get 500hp out of a 283 for less than 500 bucks 5 different ways... you couldnt 500hp out of a 289 for 5000.
@thespiritof76..
@thespiritof76.. 3 жыл бұрын
@@v8sserieschevy917 and the RPMs! thats what i love about the283, its the perfection of a SBC. 3" stroke with a 5.7 rod. and when you bore it out 120 tho you get a 302 the highest rated hp engine chevy ever produced in a sb.... And 283s can be bored 250 without an issue, ive seen it done....
@SteveHolsten
@SteveHolsten 4 жыл бұрын
I sure miss the Powerblock shows coming on weekends! I liked the originals much better they sold the first time. I wish the could come back on Motor Trend TV; especially since Car Fix went to Hell in a handbasket!!!!
@dadgarage7966
@dadgarage7966 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure to heat up those brand new heads with the torch.
@danielsheltonmenezes8728
@danielsheltonmenezes8728 4 жыл бұрын
I very much like the "Strokerstang"
@Lonewolfnocub1988
@Lonewolfnocub1988 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously considering buying a 283 locally that was bored 40 over and from the description looks to be rebuilt similar to that of the 283 on the episode, Edelbrock included. I am restoring an 81' Malibu; what I am asking is if the 350 TR Trans is going to be able to handle the WHP, and if the accessories from the the 229 V6 OHV will cross over to the 283, also will I need get a different set of Motor Mounts?
@maggs131
@maggs131 2 жыл бұрын
Any chrome that goes on a motor, especially that timing cover, I'd aggressively scuff the gasket surface. Oil just loves slipping past chrome
@chrisjeffries2322
@chrisjeffries2322 Жыл бұрын
How much more would it have cost to install BRASS FREEZE PLUGS?
@nathandean1687
@nathandean1687 4 жыл бұрын
instead of destroying the temper on those parts. just frezze em over night . same effect with out losing the temper. of the steel.
@gitlit1304
@gitlit1304 3 жыл бұрын
the way i was shown to do it as well. freeze. then u just need alil heat. not red hot. i cant see how they CANT see thats bad for the steel?
@stuartbuckley8720
@stuartbuckley8720 3 жыл бұрын
Dry ice them in a styrofoam container.
@indyrock8148
@indyrock8148 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day
@jamesathens8027
@jamesathens8027 3 жыл бұрын
man he got that rod hottt
@jimb8904
@jimb8904 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding. 270....h...p... and. Was. It. 330. Tork....on. the. Old. 283......awesome.....
@jtp682
@jtp682 Жыл бұрын
love your video! I am hoping to get your opinion on something. I have a chevy 350 that I want to freshen up without machining. I specifically want to replace the main and rod bearings to increase engine longevity. So regarding the rod bearings, can I just replace them, do the clearance checks, and retorque them without having to change the rod bolts/nuts? Its just a stock, average HP late 70' engine that is just a daily driver. Thoughts on this?
@Chef-James
@Chef-James Жыл бұрын
What a contrast between the 283 Chevy and the 3v Ford.
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