When you read the Bible, it really helps to cross reference passages with other passages, to get clarification. Please read Exodus 20:11 that states "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy." It was 6 days. There are also references to 6 days in the New Testament. Happy studying 😊 that said, I love John Lennox and his lectures 😊

The earth can be structurally mature but chronologically young. Adam was a fully grown man and yet was 1 day old the day after he was created.

Deep and thoughtful discussion gentleman. As a young earth creationist I have suffered great conflict; even persecution from a great many pastors who are completely unwilling to entertain any other view than their diehard Theistic Evolutionary Theology. Thanks brothers in Christ for your engaging and respecful conversation. 🎉🎉❤😂

Interesting information...thanks.

The earth is fixed on 2 pillars, or poles as it were. That verse doesn't say the earth isn't moving. People misunderstood this particular meaning of fixed.

I've recently opened my mind to the idea that young Earth creation could be real, and that scientists could be wrong. Going into that discussion with an open mind has been.... mind blowing honestly

Great talk. John Lennox is da man!!! This is such an important topic in our day. I really don’t personally care one way or another- young Earth, old earth, new earth! But I have found, out of necessity, not only to engage intelligibly with my non-Christian friends (as this is one of the larger stumbling blocks), but especially to equip our 4 kids. They need to be raised to know that science and the Bible are not at odds. For them to be able to be lights and one day, effectively communicate the gospel to their friends, who might think because of “science,” God can’t exist. I want them to be fully prepared and confident and not in a possible YEC echo chamber. They can coexist, and I want them to respect that there can be varying interpretations on this secondary/territory issue, and still still call the other side brothers.

I agree- the Bible does touch on science (paths of the sea, fountains of the deep, the order of the days of creation...) The week came from the days of creation, the writer of Genesis went to great pains to emphasise the evening/morning 1st, 2nd 3rd day etc there is a good reason why the age of the earth is important.

The bible says that a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.Time is not absolute but God is

Hugh Ross is another great man to watch on this topic. As an astrophysicist who started out as an athiest, the way he's able to break down the origins of the universe and shows how the science aligns with the Bible is really fascinating. Of course the biggest thing to take away is that (just from the scientific secular viewpoint) before the creation of the universe there was no space, no time, no matter, and no laws that governed the universe like the laws of physics or gravity, ect. And that whatever created the universe at the singularity had to be something that transcended and existed beyond space and time, and was beyond governance of the laws that the universe obeys. So, you have this creation agent that began created the universe from nothing, and that existed beyond (and is not limited by) time and space. I don't know about you, but that's pretty much my definition for God.

Well, you can send these verses to give hope to heart patients, but a "bit" out of context! 😁 The phrase "my heart is fixed" appears in the Bible in multiple places, including Psalms 57:7, 108, and 112: Psalms 57:7-11 "My heart is fixed, O God, my heart is fixed: I will sing and give praise". This passage describes David's confidence in the Lord during adversity, and his desire to worship and praise him. Psalm 108 "O God, my heart is fixed; I will sing and give praise, even with my glory". Psalms 112:7-8 "His heart is steadfast, trusting in the LORD. His heart is established; He will not be afraid, Until he sees his desire upon his enemies".

How old is the earth is not a shallow question . It has to do with the authority of God and His word .

Hope to see more of you guys!

People seem to forget that the Creator walked the earth 2000 years ago. He is the key to understanding the Old Testament including Genesis because He was there and He did it. There was plenty of opportunity to straighten out the Apostles understanding.

You talk a lot of sense, keep the good work up.

It’s a Great Topic ……..🌞

The Bible and Science are not adversarial; they are complimentary to one another. The above fact is not portrayed in your discussion with each other on this video but it should be.

As a christian who is also a PhD scientist (biology), I can agree that the age of the universe can be old. However, once the "day" language starts in Genesis 1, it is literal 24 h days. Christians do not need to "sell out" to the old age concept to be accepted as reasonable or logical. Good book on the Genesis 1 Hebrew that convinced me of a possibility of an old universe but a literal 7 day creation was Gorman Gray The Age of the Universe: What Are the Biblical Limits?

Very interesting.

Thank you for making the point about needing to ask deeper questions!

Thanks for the thoughtful discussion. The love of truth will always identify those who are His!

I am glad there are young belivers like you two, asking important questions, and looking for truth in HIS word. Whatever we believe, it needs to be grounded in the Word, period. Search the scripture like the Bereans.

Going to check it out. Thanks!

I deeply appreciate your attitude, your questions and answers in this dialogue and especially the way you believe as christians.

Love learning about these kinds of things! Another thing the Bible doesn’t make very clear is “when” the angels fell and were cast to the earth in relation to the creation and fall of humanity. But it does seem that the fallen angels were very active on the earth both outside and inside of the garden during this time. Interesting!

We Christians need SAFE places to freely share, learn & ponder issues prayerfully, being respectful, patient & teachable, having open minds, knowing in advance that we may reach different conclusions, agreeing to always part as family in Christ, being mindful of our Holy calling and joint purpose, fulfilling the Will of God individually, collectively, willingly, steadfastly, unselfishly for His Glory. Blessings, all 🥰🙏🕊️🌿

Hebrews 6:18-19 New Living Translation (NLT)So God has given both his promise and his oath. These two things are unchangeable because it is impossible for God to lie. Therefore, we who have fled to him for refuge can have great confidence as we hold to the hope that lies before us.

It only became popular to second guess the straightforward account of Gen 1 under secular pressure that started at a particular time. So while I agree with the sterile notion that the age of the earth is not directly consequential to soteriology, it is a very important check on the unbiblical, deconstructed drift that has inevitably occurred in modern Christian thought.

Thank you dear young brothers! I have totally enjoyed this. The calm, INTELLIGENT way you two discussed things was not jarring or interrupting. I also appreciate how you did not try to present your video as coming from two hipsters...you know what I mean. I am subscribing right now. Thank you again for such a refreshing KZfaq THINKING Christian experience, not common enough alas. Please make more available.

Wonderful peaceful thoughtful and respectful conversation. More please!

Six creative periods.

So good!

Great video. The question of Earth’s age came up in my small group at church and I found your video! I love to listen to Lennox, but was joyfully impressed by the conversation and analysis that you two young men added to the mix. God is good! I’ll be subscribing for more commentary. God bless you both!

It's important to get the beginning right. God started everything about six thousand years ago. ✝️

This confirms what I already thought about Genesis 1 🙂

Job 26:7 'He suspends the earth over nothing'

I find it absolutely absurd that people do not understand that we have a direct genealogy from adam to Jesus. That they can understand that if Genesis is not literal than the whole Bible is nonsense. Thats one of the reasons im a Christian, is because scientifically speaking the age of the earth is exactly what the Bible says it is.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Problem solved.

23:36 Excellent point. If you appeal to philosophy, do you mean Bertrand Russell or do you mean Plato or Thomas Aquinas? If you appeal to science, do you mean Jonathan Sarfati or Richard Dawkins? Plus, obviously, Hydrology is somewhat more humdrum than radiometric dating, and has more bearing and what it's saying is more certain, like I don't think hydrologists would deny that the Seine was overflooding four times its usual height in 1910, but that's the kind of flat statements of "impossible" that you will hear from some against the Biblical chronology or other statements of the Bible.

Just found your Channel. So happy I did , I have two teenage boys and they need positive role models that have love for the Lord and respect for the Word of God like you. Thanks for your content and God Bless you both!

Such a great discussion. Found you from a random recommendation on KZfaq. Praise God for you two. I love John Lennox and loved how you guys approached this subject. People often forget the purpose of the Bible and get muddled up in all of its confusion. Having said this, one thing I've never been able to get over an old earth perspective is how we could have death before human creation. Death came to all only after adam and eve sinned and having an old earth puts death before this which doesn't add up for me personally and this impacts salvation. Cause if death existed before sin then why did Jesus come down to die. I find the old earth timeline too supportive of everything the evolutionist believe in and it feels like something that the devil could pull to split people up. I would love if you guys reacted to one of Ken Ham from answers in Genesis's talks. I find his scripture based explanations more plausible for the creation account. Nevertheless keep it going, you guys got a subscriber. Love that you ended in prayer, keep spreading the gospel. Not many Christian youtubers do that and I don't know why 😅🤷‍♂️

- people are dashing their heads against the stones as to figure things out - as to meaning 'searching within the earth and as to the breadth of it too finally'

I hope more parents start "holding the line" on parental rights, and become informed of how and why we must all do more now than ever before to preserve and protect these rights from a controlling elite group who want nothing more than to control the minds of future generations for the benefit of control, power and wealth for themselves rather than for WE THE PEOPLE!

Psalm 104 is full of poetic metaphores that are clearly not meant literally: God wraps himself in light as garment, stretches heavens like a tent, makes clouds his charriots, rides on the winds and so on. It is not fair to match Psalm 104 to Genesis 1. It is different kind of literature.

If God can create the Universe, and if he can create Adam and Eve as adults, there's nothing stopping God from creating a 13.5 billion year old Universe 6000 years ago. But I agree that my faith in God creating the universe is not dependent on when he did it or how old it is.

Wow... astounding casuistry.... wow?

Both the Bible and Science are correct. There is no need to reconcile anything.

'For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night'. Psalm whatever.Truth can be expressed poetically, yet it is still truth.

Everything in the universe is the same age.

This is a veritable theme park of equivocations.

In Genesis 2:3 it says "Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." Notice that the seventh day, however, doesn't say there was morning and evening, the seventh day. It doesn't have an end. Also, there has been no new creation since the creation of man.

The Hebrew word for day means a 24-hour period, not an infinite period of time. There are Hebrew scholars that will say this, and it does matter.

28:06 I'm loving this! Honestly. Why do you think there has to be a why?

Awesome show. Nice an easy conversation! You’ve earned another subscription with me 🙏

My contention is that, as with all of the story of creation, you must consider to whom the story was given. The fact is the people couldn’t have possibly understood the complexity of creation. You also have to consider the perception of what these people saw. Yes the world is fixed, from their point of view. We now see the world and universe very differently. I see no conflict between scripture or scientific understanding of “In the beginning”. Misperceptions exist on both sides.

Professor Lennox looks much like Winston Churchill.

There is a concept of age-day creationism

The gymnastics are quite impressive .

The scripture says in Exodus 20:11, the heavens (our solar system and atmosphere) and earth as well as sea and all that in them is was created in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

Lennox’s ‘intellectual mind’ has brought him to the point of unbelief. Scripture is clear and without error- man’s opinion isn’t and too many people listen to Lennox and therefore have a foot in both camps. A biblical worldview has always been essential but in these times even more so.

I great quote that I read about the Bible that really helps is “The Bible was written FOR is, but it wasn’t written TO us.”we have to read it in the historical and cultural context. It is not a science book because Old Testament and New Testament people would not have understood the science. And neither would we. Read it for what it is, which is the inspired, Theological word of God.

I'm impressed with these two guys.

I appreciate Dr. Lennox and have listened to many of his lectures on this and other topics. Although he is very articulate, he doesn't seem to identify the core issue between the Young and Old Earthers. The age of the Earth "fight" is not a scientific one. It's a spiritual one. His mention of the way Genesis 1:1 is written compared to the days of creation quickly takes the "fight" into an entirely different direction, kind of like a bait and switch. In another talk he says the days of creation are not mentioned in the New Testament. That's an argument from silence and, so what, the days are foundational to the practice of the Sabbath. The New Testament writers would be wasting ink to repeat it. Every child knew about the days. Here's the crux of the matter and it is as important as the resurrection. Can you have millions of years of death and dying, even animal and plant life, prior to the Fall? If so, then what does, "since by man came death", "Oh Death, where is thy sting?", "all have fallen and come short" mean? Not only is the fact of the resurrection important, the reason "why" Christ died for us is more. Truth requires coherence. Make a coherent case for the Old Earth and these foundational verses. You can't. So by default, the Young Earth view stands in complete coherence with the New & Old Testament.

The Earth is 4.54 Billion years old. And there is no such thing as invisible magical sky people.

Really, the question should be “how old is time itself?.” Ponder that one.

While it is true that the question (young or old earth) is not relevant to a more profound questions like where we came from and why are we here in this world and where are we going after this world. However, does it occur to you that when we come to such a question of how long was a day as stated by the scripture, we are confronted with the question of whether we believe God in His Word or we believe men in their words? Whether God meant a literal day of what we now know as 24 hours day or a long period of time? Psalm 62:11 KJV [11] God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

You young men are wise. Refreshing to see!

I’m just a simple minded Christian bc I don’t really care how old the earth is. I’m so grateful and happy that God sent Jesus to the earth to die in my place that after years of reading and studying my Bible I’m still struck by how awesome this is 🥰 I know that on my own I could never make it to heaven bc I’m such a terrible sinner even tho I really try to not sin! Great channel Thank you 🙏🏼

Does anyone have a link to the full John Lennox video?

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I don't think asking the age of the earth is a shallow question. It is underpinned by some of the most significant theological questions like: -Was there death before sin? -Did God call a world plaqued with death and suffering good? To name a few... Its not fair someone is a young earther just because the Bible says so... there are much more to uncover.

Hey, guys. Understanding that there is a time gap between Genesis 1:1 & Genesis 1:2 is really very simple. It’s only controversial because MOST Christians are unfamiliar with the concept. Finis Dake provides clear exegesis on this point in his Dake’s Annotated Study Bible. I HIGHLY recommend looking into this topic, because there are indisputable archaeological discoveries that have, and are being made, which do absolutely prove that a young earth is impossible. Not to mention that just the simple fact that the speed of light CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES that the universe is quite ancient. If the “heavens” are ancient, then there’s no reason to believe that the earth is merely thousands of years young. It’s really very basic.

Blessed Anna Catharina Emmerich confirmed the world is as old as the Bible says.

The book by Hugh Ross, discusses the Day/Age controversy thoroughly. The Hebrew and the English word "day" can mean: 1. A 25 hour day 2. The daylight part of the day 3. A week 4. An indefinite period of time 5. An age 6. An epoch So, using a definition for the word "day" which is valid in both Hebrew and English, we can interpret, "on the seventh day(age), God rested. Later in the prophecies, we're invited to come into God's rest, His "AGE" of rest.

The speed of light C isn’t constant since the measures of time and distance aren’t constant. Changing from 60 kilometers an hour to 60 miles an hour increases your speed. Then if you go from 60 miles an hour to 60 miles a minute it increases your speed again. This what is happening in general relativity when less gravity increases the measure of distance and speeds up the rate of time over large distances. It also means that the earth is younger than what they claim.

All movement is relative and it is just as accurate to say the earth is still and all things move around it as to say that the earth is moving around all things

Hi folks, thank you for a well-balanced discussion focusing on the most important issues. And making the necessary shift from head to heart ! God bless you guys, this is certainly helpful to many believers! Greetings from Switzerland

I have huge respect for John Lenox. I can accept that there is an indefinite passage of time between verse 1 of Genesis 1 and verse 3. However, it was on the 4th 24 hour day that the rest of the Universe was made (the stars and the sun and moon). And according to John Lenox himself, the tense changes on the first day.

I have understood the term fixed in it place correctly then ..

It’s going to be a lot of shock people on the day of JUDGEMENT

Hey but who's to say the whole universe doesn't rotate around the Earth anyway? From here it looks like it does and as far as I know there are no other planets with people to offer a different perspective.

This is the version I promote: Old Earth Creation: Day 1 ends 4BYA as stated is referencing this earth as it was when light was created. The source of that light was the sun and the state of the earth 4BYA is it was a small ball of molten lava and it's rotational speed was that 1 complete day was about 6 of our hours. Science also promotes the moon was a lot closer and about there science starts to get it wrong. Lava in a molten state on a fast spinning globe will be acting like a centrifuge in that heavier material will sink and the lighter material will rise to the surface. The lava sorts itself in layers that id dependent on density. To help that along science also promotes the moon was a lot closer so there were tides of molten rock and since there was no solid parts yet the tide was endless and no winds as the heat from the lava melted anything incoming, clouds for things with a low melting point and heavier item came is a liquid rather than stone so it was a gentle growth and gravity was the only process at work for the next 3.6BY and the next part of the process begins. This part is not something I have mentioned before in any detail. The counting system would put the start of day at 40,000,000,000BC as when the universe began to form. The void is mentioned as the beginning without matter as we know it. It is promoted that we are expanding at an increasing rate and that will continue. We will end up back in the same void that we came from. Our universe has a certain number of stars and if that number is increasing then we are getting hotter and hot things expand. At some point the trend will be that more stars will die than are born and we are still expanding and eventually no stars will be born and matter will be so far apart it cannot form something that attracts something else. Welcome to what we call a black hole. A collapsing universe has the mass centered on a certain part and that makes the places the weak link so collapse and density can only go so far and then it blows. Our big bang was probably something like the moon and earth only on a much bigger scale and it never reformed and it is like the asteroid belt but in the shape of a soccer ball one that is expanding at a faster and faster rate. Day 2 ends 400MYA it sees a crust develop on the earth and it could have been caused when the heavier matter that was in the moon migrated towards the earth and the volcanoes spilled out the heavier metals and it migrated to the earth as cold matter than cooled the surface enough that a crust started to form and gasses could start to fall as liquid, very cold liquid. That day ends with water being found at the highest elevations of dry ground and that is where the next part of the process begins. Length is 360M years Day 3 ends 40MYA it sees the forests being created. Trees are mentioned and the forest is an eco system that would have developed just like one does today. The other parts of the forest like birds and crawlers are mentioned later only because they are less important to the story rather than they were created by themselves later on. The process went on right until the end of the 6th day. For the sake of argument water could just begin to collect in the deepest parts as they would have been the last parts to get cold. Forests would have reached down that far and the water that then fell brought the level up to where it is now. The vid 'snowball earth' could be quite close to what did happen and civilization would have started high and moved down as the ice melted and the expanding rifts would have collected the water. Day 4 ends 4MYA and the sun and moon are finally given names and their purpose is created, they mark time as we know it as far as days/months/years go. Stars are mentioned last as they are the least important to the whole story. That being said that is when angelic beings live and when they go to their promised new heaven that leaves the universe empty and mankind just enters it at the end of Re:22. Universal salvation prophecises that all of mankind will enter that place. The ones that were alive for the 1,000 year reign make their home inside of New Jerusalem and the ones that are resurrected at the Great White Throne will make their homes outside of the city. All other flesh is also resurrected down to sparrows will also be resurrected once the worlds become homes to immortal beings who have the same mission as Adam and Eve. Day 5 ends 400,000 and the oceans as we know them were created even if that process began at the end of day3. Whales are mentioned and that would indicate that birds fell into the water and over the period of a few million years they ditched the feather and moved the nose up the face. Being warm blooded and having the same spine motion shows the relationship. Ge:1 promotes 3 species, birds are top dog in the forest. whales are top dog of the seas, and man is top dog of the land animals. Day 6 ends 40,000YA and it starts with Adam being created in the garden area as defined in the Ge:2 creation story. The Med Sea is the west border and it goes south as far as the Nile. It goes east two rivers to the east for that border and as far north as the middle river reaches. It is a watershed area and the size of the Jordan River in Eze:47 is how it would have flowed back when God and Adam were in the Garden naming things. Without water the seeds could not sprout as the rest of the planet named Eden was full of life already. Eve was the last thing God created and after that day ended nothing new could be created. What was created cannot be un-created but it's size can go as low as a remnant or thrive depending where you are in the book that goes into some detail about how sin is defeated in the end. Day 7 ends 4,000BC Satan and other angels would have had access to all of Eden except for the Garden area and the ancient megaliths are a testament to their abilities to play with rock things. Man will have that same ability in the new earth portion of things. Megalith.org has a really nice library, part 38 is very impressive as far as showing the past cannot be like it is presently promoted. The new earth would be the same process as it happened in the past. Because the God of Life is going to resurrect all flesh that was conceived in the time this earth will exist the beginning has to be accelerated even from the time the garden took compared to the rest of Eden. God likes patterns Ge:1 is the Alpha and Re:21 is the Omega of the one being that sits on the Great White Throne, when He says, 'It is done.' He is referencing this earth as being labeled perfect rather than very good. The 1,000 years will see the holy land go from being desolate to being like it would have if sin had never entered the garden. The restored Garden is where all the people who have been alive will be when Satan and all fallen angels are released and God sends them to the fiery lake the static population gets an escape. It is what is called the rapture but it comes at the end of the 1,000 year reign only. Here is the verse and there used to be a reward for a rapture verse in the Bible.

Fully agree. The age of the earth in the context of God is not a very consequential question. The fact that the earth was created , or whether or not the bible is true, or what is our purpose, are far deeper questions. However, what we believe is largely the result of what we were taught from a very early age. Even if you choose to believe that God created the earth, it does not automatically follow that the bible is true, as these are two very separate considerations. It is quite understandable to have deep beliefs , but in this case you should give proper consideration to both ideas. You should also note that if God exists, it does not automatically follow that he created anything . For a thought-provoking question, consider this: 'Why would an omnipotent, self-sufficient God choose to create a universe or humans? Once you are able to answer this question, you will immediately find non-contradictory answers to the other deeper questions.

Bishop Ussher will have the last laugh here. The CMB monopole (the so-called smoking gun of the Big Bang) is generated from the Earth’s ocean. The expansion of the universe is based mathematically on general relativity- but this was completely arbitrary since GR could also account for a static universe or a contracting one. Redshift is a measure of lost energy, not expansion.

Let me propose something to you. When an author writes a story, it has a beginning middle and ending right? Well before that story took place, there was events that happened that led up to the beginning of that story. So when God said “Let there be light.” And after the 6 days creating the earth, could he not have started his story, our world, with its own past? Its own history (stars forming and dust gathering for billions of years)

If the question: “how old is the Earth?” Is known by science, measurement, testing, retesting and data and it’s contradictory to any, i mean ANY religious books, you have only 2 choices. Accept the hard data or ignore it and believe whatever the religion tells you.

Genesis 1:10 is our clue for definitions. “Earth” is dry land. 1 Chronicles 16:30 (NASB20) “Tremble before Him, all the earth; Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved.” Based on the established definition in Genesis, it couldn’t be talking about the earth as a whole and whether or not it rotates. It must be talking about the dry land being fixed. We can have some erosion here and there, but the dry land isn’t getting completely flooded again to where the ocean moves out of place.

Great show but you guys definitely have to look into answers in genesis with Ken Ham. Also, check out Dr. Jason Lisle. There are many other greats out there when it comes to a young earth. Good job though on your show.

Lennox: "The most important thing is not when it happened..." Tell that to the creation science types. I personally don't care when it happened. In fact, a creator could have created the whole thing 5 minutes ago, complete with memories of the distant past. Once you insert miracles into creation, there really isn't any place to stop.

As a pastor with four degrees in my field, I am one of those who believe the earth does not move. I believe the sun moves above the earth in its designed course God has set for it. I lose nothing by believing what I believe. When the sky is clear at night I look for the North Star. It is exactly where it has been all my life. That is impossible if the earth was hurdling through space at the speed we are told by so-called astronomers. The Bible was written for common people to understand. If the earth moves, the God of the Bible would clearly say so.

- mathematically (numerically) > within every negative [-] there is a positive [+] ; < and within every positive there is a negative :

I was brought up knowing the Bible is God’s Word, and I believe it is true, even if I don’t understand it all. God will show me what I need to get me to heaven.

Please watch and share with others my four brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible; facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by God. Thank you!

The @IsGenesisHistory channel offers incredible insight into the possibility of a young earth. Very good resources on that channel.

So was there old earth death before the fall when sin and death entered creation?

I was told by an old man once that the world was 30 years old

1Kor 1:18 Die boodskap van die kruis van Christus is wel onsin vir dié wat verlore gaan, maar vir ons wat gered word, is dit die krag van God.

It’s important for Christians to stop compromising the authority of the Bible just to make friends in the world. The Bible does give a testament to a young earth and to suggest otherwise is an attempt to pacify skeptics and agnostics. Is it the foundation of salvation? No…..but God says that all Christians are to give an account and be ready to defend our faith unapologetically. Remember…..it’s not our job to win arguments, it’s our job to win hearts. Plant the seeds that God has given us and allow Him to tend to His garden. Not everyone will enter into the presence of God, because of their pride or their love for evil or this world, but all have the invitation to enter into relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

It's an important question even though some here disrespect it's importance. It's important inasmuch as the answer to this question CAN 'open the door to' Atheist thinking. But according to the bible, the age of the Earth is about 6,000 years. I know some claim a 'gap theory' between Genesis 1:1 - 2 to verse 3. But Exodus chapter 20 clearly states that... " in SIX DAYS God created the heavens and the earth and everything in them". But John Lennox is always an interesting character to listen to, and very humble. And of course, in the great scheme of Scriptural Truth it doesn't matter; though in terms of creating an unnecessary argument of controversy at Genesis 1:1 - 3, of course then the door opens to all sorts of wacky ideas.... by both Atheist and Christian!

The ambiguous nature of bible is reason for new understanding of who the fallen ones are divided into nations.