Record 4k 120 or HD 300 over SSD on the GH6 / G9ii | SSD Recording Features in Firmware Version 2.3

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11 ай бұрын

In this video, we look at the new high frame rate SSD recording features above 60fps on the GH6 and G9ii. The GH6 requires firmware version 2.3. This allows us to use the AC10 adapter or external V Mount battery to get high frame rates like 4k 120 and FHD 300 out to an SSD drive. DCC17 Dummy Battery (for AC10) - tidd.ly/3pIyn4n Kondor Blue D Tap Dummy Battery - tidd.ly/46Wtl5g AC10 Power Adapter - cvp.com/product/panasonic-dmw... SmallRig V99 Battery - cvp.com/product/smallrig-sr35...
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@tubekane 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this Steven. I can always count on you for great content

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Dennis, appreciate it 👍 You keep watching it, I'll keep making it 🙂

@not_that_Steve_Miller 4 ай бұрын

You have just answered my main questions. Very cool, thanks very much.🎉

@stevelitton 4 ай бұрын

No problem, glad you found the video helpful 👍 Happy shooting!

@lIlIIIIllIllIIIlIlII 10 ай бұрын

I was about to ask about np-f batteries but saw your video on working batteries, great work, thanks a lot !

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, appreciate it 👍 Yeah unfortunately I can't get them working with my NP-F battery solutions 🫤

@lIlIIIIllIllIIIlIlII 10 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton I don't think it will ever work... An ssd drawing more power from the battery plus the most demanding recording modes seems like a bit too much for an npf battery. But lets keep our fingers crossed, maybe the next firmware updates will bring more power efficiency !

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

@@lIlIIIIllIllIIIlIlII Yeah I always remain hopeful 🙂 I think the next version should just come with two USB C ports and then you can charge over usb and power your SSD at the same time.

@keithkamoso7339 11 ай бұрын

I just picked it up less than a month ago and man am i happy about this update? Thank you GH6 for your content, ive never own MTF camera before and im getting around because of your videos.

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Yeah it's a good update. Glad to hear you are finding the videos useful. Enjoy your new camera 📸

@keithkamoso7339 10 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton I Meant to say "thank you Steven" instead I said GH6...I guess I am excited...hahaha

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

@@keithkamoso7339 Ha ha, no worries. I actually just read it as "Thank you for your GH6 content" first time around 😂

@Ronbc000 11 ай бұрын

Good info. Thank you. 👍

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Ron, appreciate it 👍

@NicolaTheOfficial 10 ай бұрын

love your videos, thank you for sharing!

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, really appreciate it 👍

@Icon206 11 ай бұрын

thanks again! this is great

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

No problem, yes it's a nice little surprise bundled in with an already sizable update.

@enriquemartin8655 11 ай бұрын

Just watched it, I haven't explored my download yet. But this is certainly a good thing.

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's a great little easter egg to have bolted onto an already decent firmware update! Happy days.

@enriquemartin8655 11 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton Indeed. I wonder if this update has another (using your words) "easter egg" in that it widens the net for larger cards. For example, I am looking at a Lexar 1TB CF EX B card. the Pana comp list indicates it's under review for video. Do you think it's possible it passes the test?

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

@@enriquemartin8655 They don't seem to have any fully supported 1tb cards yet but you can still use them and see what their limit is. CF Express cards tend to get quite hot after a while, so I assume that is the limitation there.

@geranimoek7410 11 ай бұрын

Good video. I want to ask that Can we record 4K 100 fps Apple Prores on SSD now? Or only Mov format?

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Thanks, unfortunately not. Hopefully one day though 🤞

@scurss 2 ай бұрын

Hey Steven. Great review. So what is the best, max, top of the top recording quality the GH6 can do at 300 fps and do I need SSD and external power to reach it?

@stevelitton 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you found it useful 👍 So essentially you can record all the video options internally to a CF Express card. But recording out to SSD was always capped to 50/60fps. With this firmware update they made it so you can shoot all the frame rates to SSD when using an external battery like a V Mount.

@scurss 2 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton thanks for the answer. So if I understand you right it do 10 bit 422 at 300 fps internally and now wit the new firmware update I can do the same on the SSD but only with external power?

@stevelitton 2 ай бұрын

I don't have my camera to hand but I believe to get up to 300fps you are using 420 10 bit in LongGOP. But yes essentially all the shooting modes are available if you have the right dummy battery.

@marvideos2007 11 ай бұрын

excelent 🙌

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's a bit more than I had anticipated in this update 🙂

@marvideos2007 11 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton to make everyone happy. just missing the manual FOCUS Touch like the GH5 camera😁

@marvideos2007 11 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton but yes, this update has boosted our GH6, I'm very happy.😃

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Ha ha yeah, one step at a time 😂 there are tons of features and bug fixes I would have loved to see in this firmware update but it's pretty solid.

@marvideos2007 11 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton 😅👍

@lizlana4200 8 ай бұрын

Hi, great review, same question for internal CFexpress b, can it record internal CFexpress b 120fps 4k pro res with the new update? Thanks so much 🙏

@stevelitton 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, appreciate it 👍 No 4K or 120fps in ProRes unfortunately. The closest you get is C4K 60fps. Hopefully that can change in a firmware update 🤞

@humbleprogress1226 10 ай бұрын

Steven, what is that device that you have attached to the TOP camera that allows you to attach the USB smallrig next to it?

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Hi, I think you are referring to the camera cage, this is the one I am using 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipuRrJV5xJe6dHk.html

@humbleprogress1226 9 ай бұрын

yes that was it. Thank you :)@@stevelitton

@stevelitton 9 ай бұрын

@@humbleprogress1226 No problem, glad you found what you were looking for 👍

@andysmith3172 10 ай бұрын

Do you know of any dummy alternatives to the Kondor? I’m not a huge fan of that baby blue colour! Can’t seem to find any others from a reputable company though.

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

There are a few around but I like the Kondor Blue cable due to the neat form factor with the voltage regulator being tucked away in the dummy battery. You might find one in black but it will likely look messy anyway due to the way it is built. I'm sure more will be hitting the market soon with the success of the new S5 cameras.

@ThatGuyOverThereWeird 10 ай бұрын

would a T7 4tb work? Previous update didnt allow connecting to a 4TB drive.

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Good question, I haven't seen anything to say they have lifted that limitation, so I assume it is still in place but I haven't tried yet. I think it is more of a speed limitation on the drive side of things.

@jamesloop 7 ай бұрын

Probably a ludicrous question…is there a way to both power the gh6 externally with a power bank, and at the same time record externally to ssd? I was thinking that for recording, could one use an hdmi (camera end) to usbc (ssd end) cable? I understand you can use the dummy battery to power, but I thought maybe there was a way to use an hdmi cable for recording similar to how an external monitor/recorder uses that for sending recordable video, freeing up the usbc port for a battery bank. I imagine this is a hardware/software feature exclusive to monitor recorders, but just thought I’d ask if you had tried this.

@stevelitton 7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately there is no way to do that, at least no way I know of. You could maybe look into using a high-capacity NVMe CF Express card like this one 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtFoodl_176mn40.htmlsi=jKhD-ZKdz7xFTvoE and then that frees up the USB-C port for a power bank.

@jamesloop 7 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton will do, thank you

@regenytarmovies 11 ай бұрын

I don't fully understand: can the SmallRig V99 battery be used simply by D trap cable and Dummy battery on the GH6?

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Hi, yes you can use a D Tap to DCC17 dummy battery cable, I am using the Kondor Blue cable in this video and the link is in the description of the video. It's not advised by Panasonic though.

@regenytarmovies 10 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton Thanks for the quick response. I'm careful because I recently completely destroyed my Sony ZV-1 with a Chinese-made dummy battery. 😁

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

@@regenytarmovies No problem. Ouch, that sounds nasty. So far, so good for me with the SmallRig V99 and the Kondor Blue cable. The V99 also has USB PD, so you can power it the recommended way but obviously that doesn't work for this scenario.

@CameraCombo 11 ай бұрын

You didn't oversell this feature- it's a big deal as: 1) SSD's are cheap 2) external batteries are a norm because the GH6 doesn't have a grip option.

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Yeah it's good right! Why on earth they failed to mention that in the update notes I will never know!

@CameraCombo 11 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton I just shared your video on EOSHD too. I'm sure many people would like to know there.

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

@@CameraCombo Thanks, appreciate it 👍

@AdventureMilesPhotography 10 ай бұрын

I attempted to harness the frame rate settings above 60 fps after installing firmware update 2.3 while sourcing memory through my T7 Shield, but discovered that the options remain unavailable to me. I am utilizing SmallRig’s V Mount vb50 as my battery source while using the recommended Kondor dummy battery DMW-BLK22. Any recommendations on accessing the upper frame rates? Could it simply be that I need the vb90 over the vb50?

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Oh that's an interesting development, thanks for sharing. The first thing to check is that you are not using a mode that will limit you to 60fps like Dynamic Range Boost or ProRes. Would be interested to know if you are still limited after checking those options.

@AdventureMilesPhotography 10 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton Dynamic Range Boost is off, and I selected .MOV as the recording file type. The other options for higher than 60 FPS remain unavailable.

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Ok, so there is some kind of limitation there due to the battery size. The only other limitation comes through the battery type but you say you are using a BLK22, so that should work fine. I was going to have a play with my Power Junkie V2 using different size NP-F batteries to see if there was a limitation there. To be honest, I was surprised it worked with a dummy battery but I am certainly not complaining. I will do some tests and see what I come up with. Panasonic will never release any information surrounding this because they don't condone external power usage outside of the official power supply.

@AdventureMilesPhotography 10 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton Thank you for confirming! Videography is a secondary option for me as I’m, primarily, a photographer, but videography has grown as a request to support as a part of my services. Having the ability to harness the most out of my GH6 gives me more options to consider, but 120 fps isn’t a primary need at this time. The vb50 meets all my current needs as a photographer and videographer at this time. If I end up with a vb99, I’ll update you as to what options show. It’s weird that it wouldn’t anyway since the vb50 should be more than enough battery power to handle 120 fps at 4k.

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

No problem. It's an odd one, i'm not really sure exactly where the limitation lies there. I'm sure more will come to light as more people update as there are tons of different batteries on the market.

@PepGee38 11 ай бұрын

can u give us the link to the dummy battery and adaptor pal

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

I have just stuck all the links in the description. They should already be on those other videos as well covering the adapter and the cable individually.

@marcelwillems4169 9 ай бұрын

Hello Steven, thanks for al of your video's. I have an other problem with my GH6. I am trying to get more than 50 fps (in the Netherlands) . I did the update to 2.3. I use for SSD recording the Sandisk Extreme Protable 1Tb SSD. Power supply via DC Coupler DMW BLK22 (Amazon) connected to mini jack V-mount Kyver BP-45 batt. (I tried also a BLK with D-tap) Result: no frames more than 50. I saw that you use a Samsung T7 Shield 1TB, so i ordered one. Also with this SSD, 50fps is the max i get. Than i saw this video of you and ordered the Kondor Blue BLK22 with D-tap. Resluted in max 50 fps. Then i saw your video abouth the WIMAXIT v-mount batt. and tought its maby not enough power, so i ordered this battery. I charged it to 100% capacity. Connected to the Kondor Blue and Samsung SSD: not more than 50fps. Dyn.boost is off. I get only more than 50fps record to the CFexpress card. So i have also tried an NVMe SSD. Same results. I dont want to go outside filming with a cable reel. So, what are your thoughts on this. I think i have the same hardware as you are using and someting is still not oke. Thanks

@stevelitton 9 ай бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it and sorry to hear you are having issues. Two possible issues there, it could be that the camera is not reading the dummy battery as a DCC17 and that is limiting the shooting options. For the second, I would ask, what shooting options are you using? I am using the MOV shooting setting in this video. Unfortunately, the ProRes options are still capped at 50/60fps in the latest firmware. As far as I know, the SSD itself doesn't limit options on the camera itself, it may just not be able to keep up, depending on which one you have. Hope that helps.

@marcelwillems4169 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your quick reaction. Before the 2.3 FW i used MOV, 5.7K at 50 fps. But now with the higher framerates I want to try 100 fps on 4K/MOV. I film most of the time moving objects like steamtrains etc. I film only for hobby. No youtube. What do you mean with "the camera may not reading the kondor blue as a DCC17? @@stevelitton

@marcelwillems4169 9 ай бұрын

Steven, I maesured the output of the kondor bleu dummy between +and- and it is 9,13 Volts. The WIMAXIT is 100% charged@@stevelitton

@stevelitton 9 ай бұрын

@marcelwillems4169 Oh sorry, you are using the Kondor Blue DCC17, that will work fine. Does it give you any feedback when you try to select the option? The only things I know of that will limit the shooting options are DR Boost, ProRes and using non-compatible BLK22 batteries. You don't have VFR switched on or anything like that?

@marcelwillems4169 9 ай бұрын

Steven, VFR is also off. When i want to select the 4K 100fps its is always referring to: wall adapter with BCC17 dummy. But i can select the higher framerates wenn i select the CFexpr. card. Strange.@@stevelitton

@bleasefxproductions 10 ай бұрын

Hi Steven, I've updated my firmware and everything but I just can't get anything above 60fps on my SSD.

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Hi, to get over 60fps you will need to be using the AC10 wall adapter or a v mount battery (my 99wh batteries seem to work). You will also need to make sure that you are using a DCC17 dummy battery (not the older type) and that you have DR Boost switched off and are not shooting in ProRes. Hope that helps.

@bleasefxproductions 10 ай бұрын

I don't have the AC10 not any V-mount batteries, but I'm using the Sony NP-F970 with the Power V1 and a 2.5mm barrel to the DCC17 dummy battery (not from usb port). Are the Sony NP-F batteries too weak to supply sufficient power?

@bleasefxproductions 10 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton PS I saw your Power Junkie video but that was with the 2.2 firmware update.

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

@@bleasefxproductions I tried with my Power Junkie V2 and an NP-F970 here 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtmCarGr2Z_Zgmw.html and it didn't seem to work for me unfortunately.

@lnuponom2678 11 ай бұрын

The system looks very cumbersome, large and not always convenient.

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

I only really use that battery rigged up with a monitor and follow focus. Perfect for some of the stuff I do and for the rest I will just use the camera as-is and shoot on the internal cards. It's just nice to know that the SSD is now not capped at 60fps, who knows, maybe they will make it work with the internal battery like that 🤞To be honest it's not really a massive rig, I will do a quick video about it one time.

@zo.mp4 10 ай бұрын

Man I just did this update, tried to use an SSD with it, now my camera is bricked and won't turn on. I have no idea what to do

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that. What power source is the camera running from?

@bedenegative6450 3 ай бұрын

Does ssd recording work at all frame rates with the battery grip? Cant find any info.. I hate that you need to use a dummy battery, so bad compared to direct DC in. Thr camera just arrived but i might take it back if i cant use it for work lol.

@stevelitton 3 ай бұрын

There is no battery grip for the GH6, it doesn't have the contacts on the bottom for one to be attached. If you want mains power then you want this 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rduInpB42LjLhmg.htmlsi=Cg7zJJeYnUWPncxl

@bedenegative6450 3 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton Thanks for the fast reply Steve I stupidly thought this was about the g9ii! I just brought the camera with a bunch of stuff because I thought I could record over ssd but I think the gh6 may be better as I already use Cfast b on another camera... I hate battery couplers, I know lots of people use them but I hate them so much. I've had two fail along time ago on set and I've been very hesitant ever since. do you know if the g9ii works in all modes with the grip? I assume not..

@stevelitton 3 ай бұрын

Oh sorry, it does apply to the G9m2 as well. That does have the option for the battery grip but I very much doubt it changes the SSD options available, I don't have one to test it though and confirm. Yeah, I appreciate that using using external batteries is not ideal. It is very handy that you can record everything internally on the GH6.

@bedenegative6450 3 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton I suppose it wouldn't change the input but it technically could change the power draw. I'd love that as a solution. Do you find dummy bats reliable?

@stevelitton 3 ай бұрын

It would be good if it if did work. I use the Kondor Blue BLK22 and find it very reliable, I have a video on it here 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7yPrZqQsK7NhoU.html I actually just bought the 2.1mm jack version but it hasn't arrived yet.

@user-eu7tw3kt5b 10 ай бұрын

It turns out that the function worked - need to apply 8V and not 7.4M?

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Glad you got it working 👍

@Thirdbornentertainment 8 ай бұрын

So i use the dummy batt with vmount and t7 shield but dont see 300fps like i see on the cf card. Im on 2.3 firware as well. Any ideas?

@stevelitton 8 ай бұрын

Which V Mount battery are you using? It doesn't seem to work across all batteries.

@Thirdbornentertainment 8 ай бұрын

@@stevelittonI'm rocking the smallrig 99

@stevelitton 8 ай бұрын

That's odd, and you don't have DR boost or anything like that switched on? Remember ProRes still has a 60fps cap as well if that is what you are trying to use.

@Thirdbornentertainment 8 ай бұрын

Hey@@stevelitton, thanks for getting back to me. I made sure dr boost was off. I do have all of the pro-res features available with ssd but all of the mov high frame rate options are still greyed out.

@stevelitton 8 ай бұрын

@@Thirdbornentertainment that's really odd and you are running Dtap from your VB99 to the GH6 using the Kondor Blur BLK22 cable? Shouldn't make a difference but do you have the exact cable I have with the locking connector and definitely the BLK22/DCC17 version.

@razfilmstv 11 ай бұрын

So it won't work with a normal battery is that correct?

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

No not at the moment. I would assume due to the large capacity of SSD drives and the additional power draw of the attached drive and bigger files being transferred, an internal stock battery wouldn't last that long. It would be nice if they did make that happen though, it's a promising start!

@razfilmstv 11 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton Glad to see they are still updating!

@stevelitton 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely, it's a damn good update to, really pushing what the camera can do outside of what it was shipped with. Really happy with this one. Who knows maybe the ProRes 60fps cap is next.

@GRANT-W-NEALE Ай бұрын

Is anyone sure this works on the G9ii ?

@stevelitton Ай бұрын

I don't have one to test but it should just work in the same way as the GH6. It does mention it in the official SSD notes, so it is definitely capable.

@dijon-visuel 10 ай бұрын

Ne fonctionne pas avec une batterie Npf... Dégouté !

@stevelitton 10 ай бұрын

Yeah its annoying that you can do it with an NP-F battery I did a quick video about that here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtmCarGr2Z_Zgmw.html but the update wasn't made to make external batteries work, only the official AC10 Panasonic adapter. So it working with some external V Mount batteries is just a but of a bonus.

@haploguy 8 ай бұрын

Hello, can it record 4k120 in prores on the ssd? If so what codecs?

@stevelitton 8 ай бұрын

No unfortunately there is a 60fps cap on ProRes over SSD.

@haploguy 8 ай бұрын

@@stevelitton Thank you, even with the A-10 wall adapter? Seems a little silly since prores raw 4k60 is 1.7gbps (*2 for 4k120) and they have 10gbps over usb-c available :(.

@stevelitton 8 ай бұрын

@@haploguy it's more just that they haven't offered more ProRes options. It was never there before but who knows, more options may come in firmware updates 🤞