Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge - Comparing Basic Infantry

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tgSacred

tgSacred

6 жыл бұрын

Basic infantry may not seem to have anything interesting to show as anyone would expect Conscripts being the weakest by all terms. However, as those comparisons show each unit has its strong points.
Conscripts cost 100 resources and are the cheapest unit in the entire game. They are not very good in damage but as it seems they can survive against defensive structures much much better that the other two.
GIs cost 200 resources and can cause a lot of damage when deployed. They seem to deal the highest damage when deployed and when promoted they can really wreak chaos.
Initiates are also very strong and come at the same price as GIs. They have a short range but their damage is quite strong against all types. Needless, to say they are extremely overpowered when garrisoned inside a building. They can literally destroy anything in seconds.
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@x1298
@x1298 5 жыл бұрын
6:40 when the hand sanitizer says "kills 99.9% of germs" *0.1% of germs: ENLIGHTEN ME*
@KingChaos777
@KingChaos777 5 жыл бұрын
lost my shit i laughed so hard
@wjzav1971
@wjzav1971 4 жыл бұрын
This has become quite topical now ;-)
@reapertheone2499
@reapertheone2499 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha the best joke ever
@melvinhotdogman6926
@melvinhotdogman6926 3 жыл бұрын
e n l i g h t e n m e
@reapertheone2499
@reapertheone2499 3 жыл бұрын
@@melvinhotdogman6926 imagine that commercials on tv says kill up to 99% of germs and how bout the 1% of germs
@wad316
@wad316 6 жыл бұрын
Conscripts seem to be slightly more armored - and since they're the cheapest, they make the best meat shields!
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 6 жыл бұрын
they can survive 1 shot from Prism Tower! Thats pretty impressive and I never knew that
@UselessVoidBobo
@UselessVoidBobo 6 жыл бұрын
Connor Mac but Tesla Coils one hits every infantry.
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 6 жыл бұрын
yeah duh, Tesla Coil is a superior single-unit land defense.
@ChenAnPin
@ChenAnPin 5 жыл бұрын
but why kill if you can mind control them with Yuri's psychic towers (with some smarter exceptions)
@corsairgamingyt
@corsairgamingyt 5 жыл бұрын
wad316 YEH
@yizeverienametaken
@yizeverienametaken 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought initiates in structures did WAY more damage... because they do.
@halflife3356
@halflife3356 6 жыл бұрын
Otto von Chesterfield, Esquire their damage is doubled (tripled? I forgot) when they are garrisoned. In rules, its commented that "initiates can focus better when standing till in a building" or something like that
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 6 жыл бұрын
3:40 Who would win Literally the most technologically advanced weaponry in human history Some random peasant boys with a gun
@ddzero2899
@ddzero2899 6 жыл бұрын
I guess maybe because conscript is the only one who does prone
@Toast_94
@Toast_94 6 жыл бұрын
That's not true, GIs and Initiates can too. It's just that Conscripts actually have flak type armour while the other two have no armour type. (don't ask me the significance of the different types, i've looked around and couldn't find any info) The yuri infantry also has less health.
@binal-flecki2387
@binal-flecki2387 6 жыл бұрын
random peasant boi wit a gun
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 6 жыл бұрын
It took 5 conscripts roughly 20 seconds to kill a war factory. So I think 15 conscripts would actually make it
@stschannel5215
@stschannel5215 6 жыл бұрын
Russian conscripts like "fu*k your high tehnology, we have an armour!" Love them)
@kaypee102
@kaypee102 6 жыл бұрын
6:45 he is the choosen one
@user-yo8ab1ys9e
@user-yo8ab1ys9e 5 жыл бұрын
KP Keypz All hail the chosen one!
@4P0ST4SY
@4P0ST4SY 5 жыл бұрын
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@Ohflipsnap
@Ohflipsnap 5 жыл бұрын
*"Enlighten me!"*
@dracmeister
@dracmeister 6 жыл бұрын
There's a good reason why Conscripts can tank damage like that, and it's not because they have more health, it's because of armor types. Out of all the basic infantry, only the conscript has a weird armor type. Armor type is defined as the set of data dedicated to kinds of damage is effective to the unit the armor type is applied to. Their armor type "FLAK" as the internal name for it. Reason why they cannot survive an elite GI is simply boils down to their firing rate and damage. Initiates have the smallest range (3) but the type of damage they deal is effective to all ground targets. An Elite deployed GI has 7 range, which out-ranges any main battle tank. This gives conscripts have a lot of value towards drawing fire or tanking shots for your other units. A continuous flow of conscripts is actually pretty threatening. You can the same strategy as a rush with Yuri Initiates, just make sure you don't go broke, they're quite potent against anyone who's just set up their barracks and before static defenses come in to play.
@ReapingRose115
@ReapingRose115 5 жыл бұрын
And the strategy for GIs is more for sending them in, deploy and if they're not dead, or just simply in extremely large numbers, it's... Gonna be ugly to whomever is on the receiving end of their lead. Add a few Guardian GI's and a simple infantry rush tactic can be viable for the Allied forces, but it's harsh on the wallet. In general, GIs tend to win most man to man Skirmishes against other basic Infantry when they're on the defensive. Unless you're playing the United States, you're probably spending the dosh elsewhere.
@AceNeyros
@AceNeyros 6 жыл бұрын
Never knew that deployed GIs can scrap vehicles quicker than any other basic infantry - I was placing my money on Initiates. Also I'm suprised that Conscripts could survive one Prism hit while others were one-shotted... Now that I think about it, Conscripts are indeed dangerous in large numbers due to being tougher than any other basic infantry, huh...
@ScudForEver
@ScudForEver 4 жыл бұрын
They are tougther against defenses, against other infantry no, at least not in 1:1 ratio.
@murdercubes4968
@murdercubes4968 4 жыл бұрын
That's why America isn't as terrible as some people say, you can take advantage of the free GI's specially on large maps where you can't get to the enemy as easily
@mikuhatsune8121
@mikuhatsune8121 2 жыл бұрын
deployed GIs is the best
@GoIdLeopard
@GoIdLeopard 6 жыл бұрын
Well i guess Desolator couldnt "enlighten" that last initiate...
@MASTERMIND-mr6er
@MASTERMIND-mr6er 6 жыл бұрын
GoIdLeopard Ikr
@medoali5626
@medoali5626 5 жыл бұрын
4:30 the camel is like wtf is going on xD
@Jomster777
@Jomster777 4 жыл бұрын
_Caaaaaarl, why are those people killing each other?_
@maddogg6298
@maddogg6298 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jomster777 i guess there isnt enough pizza for everg body
@ljcruz4466
@ljcruz4466 6 жыл бұрын
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Nuclear Silo detected! 😱
@kharanjulLive
@kharanjulLive 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought the conscript icons looked like an angry spanish dude wearing a cowboy hat and a brown poncho
@spectre9065
@spectre9065 6 жыл бұрын
In terms of viability, it goes something like this. Rural maps. 1. Initiate/GI tied. GI for the range and damage, initiates for the mobility and damage. 3. Conscript. Urban maps. 1. Initiate. Receives a hefty force multiplier upon garrison. 2. Conscript. Can be churned out faster than GIs due to cheaper power plant and lower cost. 3. GI. Slightly stronger than conscript individually, harder to mass produce. 1. Guardian GI. Great anti-tank and anti-air unit. Don't use them against Rocketeers though. 2. Brute. Used mainly as scouts that are immune to dogs. 3. Tesla Trooper. Pretty much unviable. 1. Yuri prime. Very versatile. Can solo an unprotected base. Cloning vats enables Yuri to produce 2 of him. 2. Boris. Good against infantry and vehicles, and destroys buildings safely. 3. Tanya. Slightly better than Boris against infantry, but that's it.
@redstonehero7944
@redstonehero7944 5 жыл бұрын
Spectre Exception to the urban maps is when there are key cliff side locations where you can deploy GIs
@binal-flecki2387
@binal-flecki2387 6 жыл бұрын
E N L I G H T E N M E
@mikaela5938
@mikaela5938 5 жыл бұрын
I remember I really liked playing America and dropping GIs in certain places on the map to just have an almost instant defensive wall, it was really fun
@sar4640
@sar4640 2 жыл бұрын
I always drop and deploy them on the bridge so tank cant pass lol
@marcusmeins1839
@marcusmeins1839 Жыл бұрын
Genetic mutator detected
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
I think Conscripts look very cute, so I like them the most, always making and using them. GIs are expensive and only really good in holding positions, it's a pain to micro their sandbag mode when attacking.. Brainshooters - I found them them objectively the best overall but they look stupid in those gray pajamas so I don't like to use them much.
@AnimeIsLayfu
@AnimeIsLayfu 4 жыл бұрын
Cute as in kawaii?
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnimeIsLayfu of course!
@Power_Soon_yaya--9804
@Power_Soon_yaya--9804 3 жыл бұрын
Proud our the Motherland.
@planner8718
@planner8718 4 жыл бұрын
GI when walking: 😊 GI when in a building or in fortified position: 😈
@minh3264
@minh3264 6 жыл бұрын
You should compare RA2 version GI vs YR version GI. YR officially patch them to be weaker. Always wanted to know the difference.
@NeilRoy
@NeilRoy 6 жыл бұрын
I always preferred Yuri's infantry. On the whole, they are superior, as they can be more mobile, don't need to deploy to do more damage and you can produce two of them at a time with a cloning vat, giving twice as many. I find they do exceptional against tanks when bunkered in a structure. I found it interesting that the allied infantry didn't have extra protection when they were deployed with their sandbags, you would think that would give them more, but instead it helps them do more damage?? I'm not sure about that logic. The soviet units seem to be the weakest, so I assume (I can't recall offhand) they are the cheapest? A good test might be, given 500 credits, how many units could each faction produce under optimal circumstances, then compare damage of those numbers. Seems to me that the same number is not a fair test when each faction's cost may vary and could potentially produce more which would change things.
@ChessWyrm
@ChessWyrm 6 жыл бұрын
1000 credits. 10 Conscripts, 5 GI, 5 Initiate
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 6 жыл бұрын
Soviet infantry maybe the worst and cheapest, they kinda have a proning mechanic that allows them to survive 1 shot from a tier 2 base defence
@TheValentineEnemy
@TheValentineEnemy 6 жыл бұрын
Tesla coil still fries them in 1 hit though. But prism tower cannot 1 shot them unless they recieve power from another tower.
@ddzero2899
@ddzero2899 6 жыл бұрын
but conscript had the highest armor their demage is what make them get killed
@Toast_94
@Toast_94 6 жыл бұрын
They probably did gain more armour in earlier versions of the game.
@Kiwijr2579
@Kiwijr2579 5 жыл бұрын
The Prism Tower was created as the primary line of defence against the soviets... and the soviet conscript is the most resistant to its damage XD
@Kronosfobi
@Kronosfobi 4 жыл бұрын
Well since their design was to power up each other FIRST, it makes sense.
@Alfiewobbel
@Alfiewobbel 4 жыл бұрын
Oh the memories! The GI always was my favorite unit because it is so satisfying to deploy a whole bunch of them against a few rhinos and have them all promoted in no time.
@c-secofficer123
@c-secofficer123 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@TheValentineEnemy
@TheValentineEnemy 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that GI and Conscript doesn't do the same damage while in garrison....huh.... Also did the undeployed GI won against a deployed one once? What magic is that?
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and that was in Elite promotion.
@mikomanuel5931
@mikomanuel5931 6 жыл бұрын
Neko_ValentinE_Butterfly i noticed that dispite GI has the lowest HP or defense among the units they also have the highest HP regen... i may be wrong tho...
@NeilRoy
@NeilRoy 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that as well. I was like, WTF?
@MrArielsis
@MrArielsis 6 жыл бұрын
Neko_ValentinE_Butterfly looks like the dplyd elite gets better range but less atk pwr in rank 3
@mikerider2014
@mikerider2014 6 жыл бұрын
Being promoted to Elite changes a unit's weapontype from their default version to a more powerful one, which may also affect their matchup against other unit types, since some of the Elite versions of weapons use different warhead types. Being promoted from None to Veteran and Veteran to Elite also gives certain units more strength (HP), speed, sight range, health regeneration, etc. While sandbagged, an Elite GI's weapontype changes to one with higher damage per second and much longer range (M60E), however, since they're sandbagged they lose their ability to crawl, which means consecutive attacks by enemies will continue to deal full damage to them. That way the Elite GI that was able to crawl "outlived" the sandbagged Elite GI's attacks by means of a 50% damage reduction following the first shot he received. Of course this being just a pure damage test, in a live environment the sandbagged GI will probably win before the nonsandbagged GI can even get close enough to use his weapon. Little fun fact, an Elite GI's sandbagged weapon *can actually just barely outrange a Tesla Coil* that isn't overcharged.
@lokalnyork
@lokalnyork 6 жыл бұрын
Now multiply conscripts by two since they cost half of other troopers. Suddenly Initiates doesn't seem so OP.
@kommo1
@kommo1 6 жыл бұрын
Now multiply initiates by two since no Yuri player would go without cloning vats. Build one, get two.
@RedShocktrooperRST
@RedShocktrooperRST 6 жыл бұрын
Well considering for equal numbers, Initiates have at least as much firepower (if slightly less range) than Conscripts, especially if garrisoned in a civilian structure. Garrisoned infantry can shred tanks (even Conscripts do fairly well in this regard), let alone other infantry.
@lokalnyork
@lokalnyork 6 жыл бұрын
That is good point, tho Cloning Vats are pretty high on tech tree and costly too (You need to make 25x2 clones to offset the cost). Not ideal for basic infantry. Totally forgot about it, haven't played RA2YR in years.
@minh3264
@minh3264 6 жыл бұрын
Multiply conscripts by 4 due to their cost and Soviets can build a cloning vats!
@RedShocktrooperRST
@RedShocktrooperRST 6 жыл бұрын
This is Yuri's revenge. Yuri gets the vasts, not the Soviets.
@ArthasHastingsMenethil
@ArthasHastingsMenethil 6 жыл бұрын
GI is mostly good for Deploy and good for Defend your base very good for Land Defend Initiate is good for Garrison mostly but got high Damage highest unit, weak in defend and require more unit Conscript is for The Rush, Offensive attack,...etc since got higher survival chance good for Offensive
@MrPathorn
@MrPathorn 6 жыл бұрын
3:23 WIth that font I thought it said S HITS
@Nakedjackfrost
@Nakedjackfrost 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know i was not alone
@HungLe-fz5wy
@HungLe-fz5wy 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your comparisons. Thank you. Hope you will do more of those in the future.
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I still have plenty in mind. :)
@HungLe-fz5wy
@HungLe-fz5wy 6 жыл бұрын
tg hopefully sentry gun vs pillbox :D or gattling cannon
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Sentry gun vs pillbox will probably wont have anything interesting but I will test it eventually.
@chuckzuzak
@chuckzuzak 6 жыл бұрын
tg does a pillbox have a turning radius to fire like a sentry gun?
@BSomme
@BSomme 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video tg!! I subbed just for the Red Alert 2 videos I'm addicted to Yuri's revenge lol.. Ive learnt so much about the units that I didn't know before, great job..Please do more of these good sir. :)
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! More will come!
@e.maminta9804
@e.maminta9804 4 жыл бұрын
When i saw the Conscript did not die to the Prism Tower i went "huh impressive" then when i saw the others die i went "wait... The Soviets are the only one that can survive... Wow... SOVIET POWER!!!"
@benleech2
@benleech2 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos man! This is really useful for quick reference!
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
OWA thank you very much !
@devilus3487
@devilus3487 4 жыл бұрын
Gi are stronger when deployed because if you pay attention when undeployed they have a pistol and when deployed they have an assault rifle.
@bruce9354
@bruce9354 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious, is there any official explanation about what happens after these guys going to a neutral building? By increasing attack speed or something else?
@monolith9613
@monolith9613 2 жыл бұрын
Conscript : calls you comrade,cost only $100,when one conscript is down theres more GI : deployable,can destroy tanks when deployed,cost $200 Iniate : becomes laser beam when garrisoned a building,cost $200, loyal to yuri,becomes easy power source
@muhd9090
@muhd9090 6 жыл бұрын
Mommy!!
@Strikerz0r
@Strikerz0r 6 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to seen bunkered GI at longer range vs initiate.
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
funny how the sandbagged GI improves with veterancy. From meh (considering his price tag), to wtf roflstomper 3000
@maruto789
@maruto789 3 жыл бұрын
gi won
@TheMartixNeo
@TheMartixNeo 2 жыл бұрын
@tgSacred Can you put a download link of this map on this video? Please
@lalo3841
@lalo3841 5 жыл бұрын
The GI deployed has also more range that helps him with the initiate or conscripts.Also I remember in RA2 (with no YR) that an Elite GI deployed could shot a Tesla coil without taking damage.
@MarvoldX
@MarvoldX 4 жыл бұрын
why didnt you make level 3 infantry vs the tanks ?
@Kolt461
@Kolt461 3 жыл бұрын
Out of all the infantry units here, I'd still take the GI. Way too useful when microe'd correctly. Kinda reminds me of Marines in Starcraft, where you gotta play around the Stim Pack, but in this case is the deployed state.
@SkyWKing
@SkyWKing 5 жыл бұрын
A deployed elite GI is a siege unit that can out range the tesla coil. Can be used to exploit some campaign missions.
@micheal2bro
@micheal2bro Жыл бұрын
Why normal conscript servive one prism shot while elite G.I.s not even they have higher HP?
@DreamVikings
@DreamVikings 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question. If you garrison a GI does he deal SMG damage or machinegun damage?
@hernanreipp3321
@hernanreipp3321 2 жыл бұрын
According with the wiki the do machinegun damage.
@n484l3iehugtil
@n484l3iehugtil 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a doubling of conscript numbers in the tests so that we can see cost-effectiveness as well? Thanks!
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll make a video with the concept cost / effectiveness and I will include that one too.
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
well basically, they will win vs both other infantry types, except vs sanbagged GIs at greater starting range
@johnclement189
@johnclement189 4 жыл бұрын
Red alert 2 soldier and equipments. Conscript : Armor - Flak jacket Weaponry - Ppsh Training - Might be a worker, a peasant or ex-military. Low trained. G.I : Armor - Kevlar armor Weaponry - UZI and M60 Training - Average US army training, average training. Initiate : Armor - Kevlar? Harden clothing. Weaponry - low pyro psychic attack. Training - Mostly clones, dna trained soldiers and also training to become Yuri's since they can only perform low psychic attacks. Average training.
@ShadowHunter120
@ShadowHunter120 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder, does the vs infantry damage of X credits worth of deployed GIs surpass that of undeployed Guardian GIs? Should totally test this. Which is more cost effective.
@Toast_94
@Toast_94 6 жыл бұрын
An individual guardian GI is identical to an individual non deployed regular GI except that guardian is slower and has less health. In otherwords a guardian GI loses 1v1 to a regular GI.
@drakZes
@drakZes 4 жыл бұрын
GI deploys sand bags as cover, but is weaker when deployed. Makes 100% sense
@ThelagKingStrikes
@ThelagKingStrikes 5 жыл бұрын
So TL;DR Conscript has most survivability due to its armor type, but has poor fire rate and damage (making them good for drawing enemy fire away from important units). GIs are middle of the road standard infantry when undeployed, but have the best range and damage for standard infantry when deployed (making them great for holding choke points). Initiates have high dps, but low hp and range (this makes them good in urban environments where they can engage in CQC).
@beataens1
@beataens1 6 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it be two conscripts vs a GI because of their cost of training?
@redstonehero7944
@redstonehero7944 5 жыл бұрын
So to sum it up, Conscripts have the highest HP and lowest health vs infantry and defence buildings GIs can deal the most damage to buildings and tanks while deployed And initiates deal the most damage vs infantry and while garrisoned but have the least health Also, apparently the damage reduction from crawl is OP
@Kohchu
@Kohchu Жыл бұрын
There's no denying the GIs are the best general infantry of the bunch. When undeployed, they are comparable to Conscripts with less HP, but when deployed, they become one of the most powerful, and inexpensive units for base destruction in the game. It's honestly kind of disgusting how a unit that costs 200$ normally can absolutely ravage a base by themselves. Especially when you remember the American Special unit is just dropping these anywhere, and you can get more if you can capture a Tech Airport. They maybe easy to kill, but you're going to lose a building or two if you weren't already prepared for it. Conscripts meanwhile operate on the logic of 'if 1 doesn't work, send more.' Since the Conscript is super inexpensive, and decently survivable due to their superior armor; sending large bursts of them can actually get good results. Since they dish out acceptable damage, and often will take out a structure or two before they go down, as long as there isn't a hard Anti-Infantry like a Desolator in the way. Yuri meanwhile has the most expensive, but most powerful infantry, with the downside being range. Unlike the others, Initiates actually favor well against any enemy (Infantry, Tank, Naval, Building), but; to keep them balanced, their range is abysmal and it's easy to zone them out. Of course, none of this applies if you garrison them into buildings, basically forcing the use of an artillery unit to get them out.
@ddzero2899
@ddzero2899 6 жыл бұрын
also does desolator use mercury or uranium because the beam it's green so it have to be uranium but he say"mercury rising" so it's mercury both are dangerous when you touch it just give me the answer
@WolfPeste
@WolfPeste 6 жыл бұрын
"Mercury Rising" is a name of a movie with Bruce Willis.
@Wojti2000Zapasowe
@Wojti2000Zapasowe Жыл бұрын
Only now I realized, that the Initiate firing sounds like someone quickly whispering "Yuri".
@edmondsantos8293
@edmondsantos8293 3 жыл бұрын
The iconic GI death sound 1:25
@marcusmeins1839
@marcusmeins1839 Жыл бұрын
4:04 HAHAHAHA
@kamuflaj741
@kamuflaj741 6 жыл бұрын
Fastest way to get harrier/ black eagle promoted. Also russian ore collector and yuri ore collector . Or subs / destroyes
@Rebellion90s
@Rebellion90s 6 жыл бұрын
Last shotting expensive building likes superweapon is the fastest way to get unit veterancy, cheaper unit gets faster promotion, more expensive unit/building provide more exp.
@redstonehero7944
@redstonehero7944 5 жыл бұрын
Rebellion90's *accidentally kills super weapon with slave* well shit
@Kronosfobi
@Kronosfobi 4 жыл бұрын
@@redstonehero7944 That slave will *Bury them all*
@millitron3666
@millitron3666 6 жыл бұрын
Should have included undeployed guardian GI's.
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Guardian Gis will be in a different comparison
@Toast_94
@Toast_94 6 жыл бұрын
They're actually slightly weaker than regular non deployed GIs. Same firepower but less health.
@Razzy1312
@Razzy1312 5 жыл бұрын
GI's deploy ability is OP.
@ReapingRose115
@ReapingRose115 5 жыл бұрын
It makes sense that Yuri's Initiates are pretty powerful. The most damaging against infantry, and garrisoned, their firerate makes them extremely dangerous. And Conscripts are... Cheap. That's about it really. The biggest downfall however is the short range. They have slightly less range than undeployed GIs, which means that if they were first to make a charge against deployed GIs, even a large squad of Inititates will suffer major casualties. Conscripts may not be as powerful as their counterparts, but for the price of one, you get two Conscripts. They also train faster, and gain promotions faster (not that it's a huge game changer) GI's are great all rounders, but require deploying to do damage. However, if they're swarming, the damage they can do is pretty hefty if they're able to get close to the base with inadequate defence, and will decimate it faster, where as the Initiates will struggle slightly vs buildings. Conscripts however can just swarm and continue to swarm in numbers. Personally, GIs are my goto basic infantry. Superior capabilities vs Buildings and Vehicles when not garrisoned and range, they can even outrange basic pillboxes/sentry guns.
@crutchmaster9637
@crutchmaster9637 6 жыл бұрын
Test with unit cost conceding. One allied infantry unit vs 2 sovet, for example.
@0xVENx0
@0xVENx0 6 жыл бұрын
6:48 enlighten me ;3
@TheRogueminator
@TheRogueminator 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Initiates, and especially sandbagged GIs, are surprisingly effective against tanks!
@volknetai.3690
@volknetai.3690 6 жыл бұрын
WOW I thought Conscripts are sucks until I see this video He is the most durable basic infantry
@redstonehero7944
@redstonehero7944 5 жыл бұрын
Volknet AI. You also get 2 conscripts for every on GI/Initiate so they are actually very strong in numbers
@0xVENx0
@0xVENx0 6 жыл бұрын
So conscripts tanky and cheap, GIs only good when stationary, initiates got low health but easy to use and good damage. But lemme get this right, so when the GIs r stationary do they got a damage buff as well or only an attack speed
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
GIs get both boost in attack speed and in damage.
@0xVENx0
@0xVENx0 6 жыл бұрын
Oh ok cool
@Aliestor
@Aliestor 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should be more thorough in cases like fx. conscripts vs. undeployed guard infantry since they are 1 hit off going either way
@tautv9331
@tautv9331 5 жыл бұрын
the conscript armor kinda looks like the ncr ranger armor from fallout new vegas
@aouerfelli
@aouerfelli 5 жыл бұрын
You can test their range also, it is important. Something else worth mentioning is that when getting hit, soldiers increase their firing rate. It would be nice if you do a video on that, let them attack something while being hit and compare the same thing without being hit. And I think getting hit by a conscript makes better effect than getting hit by tanks because it gives continuous flow without much damage. Testing that on Boris attacking tank and attacked by conscript would show a clear result because Boris could survive a fair amount of time. Or maybe how much infantry could Tanya kill while being attacked compared to while not being attacked.
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 5 жыл бұрын
that is interesting, thanks.
@capscaps04
@capscaps04 2 жыл бұрын
The initiate are one of the most creative basic units that I have seen in many rts.
@JerryLiuXiMan
@JerryLiuXiMan 6 жыл бұрын
Do elite soldiers produce higher damage in a battle bunker?
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
taht's what I'd like to know as well. I don't *think* so, but who knows
@GeneralBeeZaa
@GeneralBeeZaa 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@ziyangli717
@ziyangli717 5 жыл бұрын
0:20 *MOOMY*
@iin_seth2079
@iin_seth2079 4 жыл бұрын
Still love conscripts
@mizzterzoneful8640
@mizzterzoneful8640 4 жыл бұрын
Conscript: You're sure? :)
@ArthasHastingsMenethil
@ArthasHastingsMenethil 6 жыл бұрын
and hey TG can you make Flak Trooper vs Guardian GI vs Brute ? just to see who's the better at destroying, defending,....etc
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Flak vs Guardian yeah. Brute will be on a separate video. He deserves it!
@minh3264
@minh3264 6 жыл бұрын
Tesla trooper is the counterpart of Brute and Guardian GI. Not flak soldier but why not.
@sufferfr0mlag506
@sufferfr0mlag506 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on everday stuff and events potrayed by red alert 2
4 жыл бұрын
deployed GI got more damage but lower hitpoint/armor than undeployed one?
@youmukonpaku3168
@youmukonpaku3168 4 жыл бұрын
No damage resistance penalty from going prone while he's deployed.
@TrainmakerPL
@TrainmakerPL 5 жыл бұрын
Range of the weapon is also a factor, deployed GI have superior fire range so they are likley fire before enemy.
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
it's the most important factor imo, because this makes them reach and kill more stuff, which results in fully vetted GIs and they're just bonkers
@goodgame2672
@goodgame2672 6 жыл бұрын
That cheese at the end :D
@AtrumNoxProductions
@AtrumNoxProductions 6 жыл бұрын
What about non-trainable units? Such as the movie star, Clint Westwood. (He is the only I can remember offhand) Or the alligators and dinosaurs? Bus Armor vs car vs tractor etc. I know there isn't a lot there. But just an idea. Keep up the wonderful videos. It makes me want to play all over again!
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
I may make those weird kind of battles when I run out of ideas :D Thank you!
@adonis1168
@adonis1168 6 жыл бұрын
what about cow ifv? :)
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
haha perhaps!
@Zemocreia
@Zemocreia 6 жыл бұрын
Nice dude
@adonis22_75
@adonis22_75 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice...keep it up
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate!
@shadowdancerRFW
@shadowdancerRFW 5 жыл бұрын
Battle Fortresses filled with Initiates. Once they become elite, everything around them gets rekt instantly, and I do mean EVERYTHING. Best unit in the game, dmg and res-wise.
@dennylukman1801
@dennylukman1801 5 жыл бұрын
Still got owned by a physic tower though, and any air attack
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
I tried this a few times, iirc it's better than having 5 tesla troopers inside
@MarvoldX
@MarvoldX 4 жыл бұрын
that level 3 allied solder just blow my mind xD
@scipuck
@scipuck 6 жыл бұрын
so cool! do you mind to do such a test on a MOD called mental omega? really looking forward to it! thanks!
@willworkforfood7028
@willworkforfood7028 5 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Conscripts auto dodge tanks when elite. I'm not sure if the other infantry does it, but I've seen it happen with elite conscripts.
@creepyfrostbite7535
@creepyfrostbite7535 5 жыл бұрын
True
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
whaaat
@UniqueIsCrazy666
@UniqueIsCrazy666 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet gameplay
@intelkiller1074
@intelkiller1074 2 жыл бұрын
does GIs is best basic unit?
@hernanreipp3321
@hernanreipp3321 2 жыл бұрын
When deployed there are very good defenders against infantry rush and when become elite the can deal with tanks easily, but they can still be crushed.
@intelkiller1074
@intelkiller1074 2 жыл бұрын
@@hernanreipp3321 i use GIs dealing with 4 apocalypse tank
@mikuhatsune8121
@mikuhatsune8121 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@officialredslimecraft4092
@officialredslimecraft4092 6 жыл бұрын
You can clone conscripts. As such, conscripts are much more cost effective than both GIs and Initiates. In RA2(not YR), conscripts can win against both standing GI and sitting GI
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 6 жыл бұрын
but don't forget the cloning vats work with all infantry I think even the GI's get that treatment.
@jcdenton2187
@jcdenton2187 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that's only in RA2. In Yuri's Revenge, they do not have the cloning vats, which severely hampers their infantry capability.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 6 жыл бұрын
I never really liked Yuri units. I am surprised how fragile GIs are, even when deployed. I still want a RA2 vs TibSun. Nod can deploy into a tree or brush, GDI can have grenades that undeploys infantry.
@ztac_dex
@ztac_dex 4 жыл бұрын
7 y/o me can't kill a war miner even when swarming it with lots of deployed GIs
@spectre9065
@spectre9065 4 жыл бұрын
GIs are actually more fragile when deployed, because they cannot go into prone position. Initiates have lower health than GIs (100 vs 125).
@sp00kyravioli55
@sp00kyravioli55 5 жыл бұрын
Comrad?
@user-um2ky1qs7u
@user-um2ky1qs7u 6 жыл бұрын
Thank u~
@yourallygod8261
@yourallygod8261 5 жыл бұрын
Does this game still have a community online :y like ran by the community an such
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 5 жыл бұрын
yourallygod yes! Follow the link of the forums in the description
@yourallygod8261
@yourallygod8261 5 жыл бұрын
@@tsiripas neat
@rabbitspliff
@rabbitspliff 2 жыл бұрын
It's been ages since I've played the game. I came into the video expecting deployed GIs to ace this, especially on a numerically equivalent basis (after all, Conscripts are obviously designed to be massed). I was disappointed. I guess especially when elite, deployed GIs can deal enough damage to other units before they come in range to counter the GIs (something not demonstrated in the video), but even then my faith in them has been a bit rattled. I used to be big on using deployed and garrisoned GIs.
@SorakaOTP462
@SorakaOTP462 3 жыл бұрын
Conscripts are surprisingly good for what they cost.
@thetayz72
@thetayz72 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting Elite non-deployed GI to beat an Elite deployed GI. Like wtf, the sandbags and machine gun were worth nothing for armor or firepower apparently. Only range?
@j.madelozo8222
@j.madelozo8222 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot about range comparisons
@chickenrice6606
@chickenrice6606 3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to do three sets of experiments, which is unnecessary when he doesn't fight against himself
@mfdsrax2
@mfdsrax2 4 жыл бұрын
Deployed GIs seem less durable because they won't lie down?
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 4 жыл бұрын
Yuji Liu probably yes
@ljcruz4466
@ljcruz4466 6 жыл бұрын
The last part though 😂
@ownufools
@ownufools 4 жыл бұрын
Do the same thing, but use something like $2,000 worth of GI's vs $2,000 conscripts ect
@delandel5496
@delandel5496 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that the Russian machine gun turret accidental damage :)
@Infarlock
@Infarlock 6 жыл бұрын
Conscripts also cost 100$ and not 200$ ;)
@armoredlumberjack1999
@armoredlumberjack1999 5 жыл бұрын
In Mental Omega they cost 50$ but are weak AF
@tickoman273
@tickoman273 4 жыл бұрын
@@armoredlumberjack1999 I cpuldn't handle playing that mod, it's just too much stuff crammed in.. could have easily made 2-3 mods just from it
@a4channoob
@a4channoob 6 жыл бұрын
so i guess the conscript has more body armor? they seem more bulky. prism tower didnt even 1 hit kill a conscript but did a elite GI also didnt know conscript would beat a GI since the GI are suppose to be 'highly trained' as said in the campaign. but a elite Gi is still better than elite conscript. a deployed GI has a better gun yet seems to have less armor than a non deployed? seems odd. what about gardian GI?
@salt_97
@salt_97 6 жыл бұрын
Buckin Bronco it's not about training, GIs have more damage. Conscripts are just really tanky infantry, especially for the cost. All the art work depicts them with heavy armour so it makes sense.
@a4channoob
@a4channoob 6 жыл бұрын
i guess when i think of realism. i think of a conscript as a lesser trained and thus less efficient in combat while the GI would be better trained and more likely to win in a 1v1 fight. i know its to balance the GI being deployable but even a deployed GI seems to have even less armour than an undeployed. a deployed GI could not win vs 2 conscripts yet they cost twice as much
@RedShocktrooperRST
@RedShocktrooperRST 6 жыл бұрын
Well it's to do with how suppression (if such a thing can be called suppression) works in RA2: You notice when infantry takes fire, they go prone? This halves incoming damage, but deployed GIs don't go prone and as such still take the full brunt of damage. Granted, for equal resource values (if we want to go from being tg to Spirit of the Law) deployed GIs have more raw damage and I think longer range than conscripts.
@ddzero2899
@ddzero2899 6 жыл бұрын
fun fact: guardian GI deal more demage when undeployed
@firehawkph4ntom466
@firehawkph4ntom466 6 жыл бұрын
It even says in the forums of the game conscript can take on an undeployed GI 1 on 1 but not when elite rank
@kedarunzi9139
@kedarunzi9139 5 жыл бұрын
damn I feel so bad for the poor conscripts
@John_Smith_86
@John_Smith_86 3 жыл бұрын
Yuri has no anti-air infantry, right?
@tsiripas
@tsiripas 3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@John_Smith_86
@John_Smith_86 3 жыл бұрын
@@tsiripas ooo. No wonder. Thanks!!!
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