GroundStudiesGroup Honestly I felt that line could describe how all the great wars start.

GroundStudiesGroup reminds me of what Ashley Wilkes said in Gone with the Wind "Most of the miseries of the world were caused by wars. And when the wars were over, no one ever knew what they were about."

“For it is the curse of men that they forget...”

“Not bad for a bunch of kids!” “Boy, you just made your momma proud!”

I like, "Who is on our side?" "600 million screaming Chinamen" "Last I heard there were a billion screaming Chinamen." "There were." 400,000,000 Dead.

Not far fetched at all. It's kinda obvious that Mexico was in on the invasion.

That comment didn’t age well

@@jimmycash6693 Lol, well I was talking about the plot of invading the United States, a nuclear power, mind you. I didn't mean to say it was farfetched for Russia or the former USSR to invade another country, though.

@@killerfrank8974 yea, you might want to change your thoughts on this statement with the current situation.

@@PhysifistEngineering In regards to Russia/USSR invading another country, sure, but not the USA.

That was Powers Booth. He was a phenomenal character actor. RIP

@@Angel9932 *_”Well… bye!”_*

He played Jim jones. It was frightening.

I mean- I know Curly Bill acts like a typical Bolshevik but what's with the red shirt? 🤣

Watch the movie Frailty, he was great in it

I think he said twice in one century

@@gustavofring5674 aw shit....5 months and i never noticed that. Feel stupid now haha

England’s a pal

Say what you will about Margaret Thatcher, but that lady was always down for a fight.

What he meant probably was world war 1 and 2, in which the soviet's knew that another one would be very costly to majority of Europe in terms of militarily, infrastructure, and populace, and very likely set up pro Soviet political parties all over Europe to be voted into office to make it somewhat easier for the soviet's to roll into west Europe with almost no resistance, but England however heavily resisted the deceipt of the soviet and wound up having to fight them

Kevin Huang well if china had been on the ussr side in this scenario the us wouldve been fucked they'd have been completely overrun

Also major props for the writers correctly determining that our NATO "allies" are a bunch of cucks who would be completely useless in another world war.

In no ways does this story even remotely hint that China is a US ally. It simple states that China was destroyed first since they were at the time, seen as the largest actual threat to the USSR.

Caesar Seriona he says that 400 million screaming China men are on their side

Again, no evidence that China and US have an actual alliance at the start of the conflict. Just because USSR opened a front with China does not mean that the PRC will be joining hands with the US or it's allies in the coming war. Though history will most likely confirm this to be true, at the time of Red Dawn, no one really knows who's on the US side other than Canada and UK.

I was young and would spit Turkey 101 into the fire !

Yes, we understood.

@@georgecrawford8231 I'd slap you myself for wasting good wild turkey

Wow, you’re telling me the 400 million Chinese people were nuked and didn’t just mysteriously disappear?

He has one of the best voices in cinema

During that description (specially the England part) I kept thinking of the movie "Threads" 1984, with conventional war still happening on top of the misery.

If they remade this scene now it wouldve been ruined in with some stupid CGI map

Another one of those times when reality is much worse than fiction. China is with Russia, and backed up by Iran, etc.

@@gilbertoescamilla2993 conventional war still happens in threads? I thought all nations collapsed and we went back to the dark ages by the end of the movie

Good timing

@@surenotejas3163 I legitimately thought about this quote numerous times in the last few weeks. What if Putin and his generals just 'forgot what it was like' to be in a war? Forgot what it was like to kill? Friggin nuts.

The two toughest kids are going to fight. It's called Power Transition Theory.

Right now the 2 toughest kids on the block are staring eachother down pretty good. Russia threatening with Nukes and USA not knowing whether to call their bluff or not. Problem is we're screwed either way. Right now the threats working, the west is too afraid to send in troops or even help with a no fly zone so Russia's going to keep pushing into Ukraine and who knows what they'll want next. But if we call their bluff and its not a bluff...all I can say is I hope to go out in the first strike.

To answer Jed's question, yes. It is that simple. Wars have been fought on that premise since the first man figured out that a rock could kill.

Still gives me chills.

So others caught that too then. I'm guessing this means the Soviets nuked China as well to sideline them.

@@Awakeningspirit20 Yes

@@fjjwfp7819 They would've tried. Their arsenal was very small though. Some IRBMs and gravity bombs dropped by Tu-16s

They should make a spin off of this movie showing the war between them and soviet union, wonder did Hong Kong and Macau fell or nuked since they were technically UK and Portugal territory at that time

hard time create hard men hard men create soft times soft men create hard times we are back on the hard times side of that coin

even more so now

The movie is stoopid but Ron O'Neal was great

Seriously? He was also on deadwood.

Powers Booth. Underrated actor. Also great in Southern Comfort and Guyana Tragedy.

Powers booth is my cousin. May he Rest In Peace

@@crusadercats1921 He ever tell you any cool Hollywood stories?

@@Thunderchild-gz4gc and Vice President/President Noah Daniels on “24” Day 6.

Whiskey or bourbon most likely.

absolutely. why can't modern action films muster such fine quality of exposition. lack of imagination today

@@fabclark123 it's all CGI and nothing else....no acting no story no and no and no.

@@fabclark123 not just imagination. Most of Hollywood has zero life experience and does not read, plus they have blinders on. You cannot write anything great when you know nothing great.

2021: After the ChiCom Joe election theft, we're all mostly ok with that.

I've read that the colonel was written to be more pacifistic, but a lot of that was cut from the movie. I'm glad it was. I prefer the tired nihilistic pilot he is in the movie.

I think because he's older, he's kind of cynical about it all.

The kind of man who understood that "some things just are, and some things are not." It's a pragmatic philosophy that helped balance out the teenaged characters' energy.

Movie came out in 84 so assuming the timeline follows when it was made, means he came into the Air Force probably around the time Vietnam really kicked off going by his rank (late 1960's if I had to guess). Been a long time since I watched Red Dawn so don't remember if he mentions fighting in Vietnam or not but I'm sure he and his contemporaries saw enough shit that they really didn't want to go through it again.

@@FadaarI saw it too. I don't think he mentioned Nam.

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MarvelDcImage. I'm not sure it was delousion. they had missles subs a very large well equipped Army. willing to fight to the death . they were breaking themselves. financially to maintain this though. luckily certain things did not fall in to place around the world especially in central America. ..that bei g the case they could not directly threaten us except. with nuclear atta k...and they knew where that would lead. being a teenager at the time....it was indeed a time ...for sometimes fear...and all the time concern

They had no food and no toilet paper. They could lash out but not sustain an invasion of North America while fighting the Chinese, etc.

The USSR was winning, they heavily infiltrated the West and the world with useful retards (shitlibs), congratulations for the "win".

I am a liberal. I would fight against any invasion or our homeland. You seem to have liberals mixed up with Commies. Yes, McCarthy tried to lump us all in the same neat package, and wound up screwing up the lives of many Liberals who were very pro America. Just cause we do not lick the boots of big Corporate bosses dose not mean we hate freedom. Yes I believe in gun ownership (Shocking I am sure to you). Where I differ from the right wing would be on Civil Rights for ALL Americans. That includes LGBT, who many have fought for Liberty, and would resist tyranny both foreign and domestic! Red Dawn was a great flick. At the time, had NATO fallen, it would have been very realistic. As much as Reagan may have been an asshole when it came to civil rights, he did stand up to those assholes in Moscow. Carter as much as I like him, was too soft on the Russians. I am glad the west held the line, so this is chalked up to Alt History. A modern Red Dawn could happen, but the enemy would have to be a Chinese-Russian combo, and then it would have to follow a Electro magnetic Attack on the US, killing the Power Grid first, and temporarily blind our military. We would still be able to fight back, but the support for our men and women would be put back in the dark ages with loss of Civilian Electronics, it would make any defense long and dragged out. Still, invading North America would be a quagmire as painful as invading Russia is. Large land masses, both with harsh terrain and the weather would play as big of an enemy as the American Forces, or the Insurgencies that will spring up in the occupied zone. So Yes, I am Pro_Liberty, but like most Liberals, I like the flag high on the post, and not being worn as a shirt or shouting USA, USA till I am blue in the face!

Now it should be a lot less scary.

@@CrazyHorseInvincible yes, definitely with how the world is going, this is nothing

@@AB-qr8ln Just a few days ago, the Russian Navy sent every ship it had in Crimea away, because it couldn't defend itself from someone with no navy at all. I don't think we need to worry about an invasion any time soon.

Your just grown up.

@@CrazyHorseInvincible you don't think you've already been invaded by over 10 million illegals, including many military fighters? You don't think China has bioterror labs and their own police stations in USA? Try finding a college campus that isn't run by actual Marxists. This is the real purpose of movies, to brainwash everyone into thinking you're better off, when really you're worse off than any movie.

As an Alaskan, very correct. There’re no railroads, no good roads until you get to the Interior. Even then, we’ve got most of the Air Force stationed here, and are the most armed state per capita. We hunt, we fish. It would be Winter War II.

Not really, if you have tanks and build railroads as you go. Mass logistics isn't a hard today as it was years ago.

@@joethekinghawk7514 idk, isn't Russia having a very very difficult time with supply chains in Ukraine despite the country being right next to it?

@@Originalchili Literally yea. Russia has a formidable land army, but holy shit did they prove how important logistics are

@@Originalchili Can't compare Russia to USSR whole different level of power. Plus this is a dark timeline with no NATO around and USSR and allies got more powerful.

Big Sonny. He did add a great sense of realness to this part and many others he played.

Big Sonny ABSOLUTELY! Booth never got props or roles he deserved! I recall this character (tho' brief) as a standout when I saw RD age 11.

He could curse better than anyone.

big sonny...yes sir he was a great one

Powers Booths was great in this movie.

One of my favorite of all time. Another badass Texan

Knowing how pilots can be, he'd be more pissed he missed the one from getting Ace in a single fight than he was about being shot down.

@@vampiro4236 yup

The iconic story behind a photo of a young girl after World War II, has recently come to light, coinciding with the launch of an exhibition of Seymour’s work at The Museum of the Jewish People (Beit Hatfutsot) in Tel Aviv.Seymour, the co-founder of Magnum photos, met the subject of this famous picture, Tereska, at a special-needs elementary school in Warsaw, where he was born and had been sent by UNESCO as part of an assignment to photograph children in postwar Europe. The photograph depicts a young girl scrawling tangled lines on a blackboard, an image which is supposed to represent her home, but is seen as a symbol of her troubled childhood - and more broadly of war’s impact on children.First published in Life magazine on December 27, 1949, the caption accompanying the picture of Tereska read: “Children’s wounds are not all outward. The research team was eventually able to identify the girl as Teresa Adwentowska, the daughter of a Catholic family, whose home was destroyed during the Bombing of Warsaw. At the age of four, Tereska was hit by a piece of a bombed building during the Warsaw Uprising in 1944.The team also found that Tereska died in 1978 at a psychiatric hospital.

I was looking for this quote. lol

The movie was a warning...

This movie came out at a time when my friends and I KNEW we were one day going to be drafted into a war with Russia. Not BELIEVED, but KNEW! If you would have told me at the time how the next decade was going to go I'd have laughed at you lol. I still ponder at wonder at how it all went down.

@@JedForge i felt the exact same way back then. Vietnam and the draft was still fresh on people's minds and the threat of nuclear war was a real big fear of mine, especially after seeing this movie and The Day After. I never talked about it with friends, but like you, I was certain that I would be drafted and have to fight the USSR. I feel like this was an important touchstone for Gen X people like myself.

@@JedForge I’m from the same generation. We knew they were coming.

@@JedForge I didn't even want to wait to be drafted.I joined the Marine Corps right after high school in 1986.

@@JedForge I'm 36 and I feel the exact same way now about being drafted to fight Russia, and it scares the shit out of me. What worries me most is what my own government will do to me when I flatly tell them "No".

More than likely, a true rocksteady alliance between the two. The rest of NATO? Perhaps maybe France but I doubt the rest.

@@omanhaddadtbh Actually, France would be the most untrustworthy of NATO. Remember, the US had to promise military aid in France's Asian interests to get France to agree to join NATO.

The introduction of the movie establishes that the US had sat on its hands and basically lost before the shooting started. That was not realistic, but it is even less realistic to grant that and then believe the US would somehow win. You snooze, you lose.

@@christosvoskresye you miss out on the last two world wars where the U.S. sat in its hands and won with our allies?

Canada got invaded to.

Lol

Ha! Sure buddy.

How?

Are you kidding? The Russians can't even project power to a country they share a border with.

Scary how today's younger generation have their heads buried in the sand (and that's bing polite).

Current movies are garbage

@@derekgorman7939 Exactly. They act like lampshading a nonsensical plot makes a nonsensical plot okay.

@wespozo these days instead of fighting back the movie would be centered around giving up and colluding with the invaders, because borders don't matter right?

Exactly. Today’s films would say the russians got to the rockies but the transformers led by michael bay stopped them.

Soviets would of rolled England without continental or American support in Europe. USSR almost matched the tech of the US and had great numbers of personnel. WW3 would turn the earth into the Fallout game miniverse.

On the current performance of Russian. Army it’s the U.K. who would be doing the rolling over. Russian troops are good at crying and calling mama as the surrender.😂😂😂

@@jbloun911 russia not doing so good 😅😅😅

@@fordcapri6288 where, Ukraine? 😂 they just took over half the country in three weeks and aren't even trying. Nothing to do with England. The US are helping Ukraine with aid and I'm sure SOCOM is involved.

@@TheFreshman321 Ukraine is vastly stronger than UK tho...just trans and pakistanis in UK now...

My exact thoughts. It's like putin realizes his looming mortality and wants to reinvent the "glory" of the soviet union of his kgb days

The Ukrainian conflict brought you here, did it?

Been thinking about this line since the invasion started.

@@joethekinghawk7514 nahh, the Algorithm did.

@@joethekinghawk7514 Red Dawn and other such movies are getting a lot of attention past few weeks. Makes ya wonder

The movie does have a few logical flaws. Like how apparently Russia pulled this off in the middle of a horrid food shortage mentioned at the start of the movie

The Cuban and Nicaraguan armies probably would have "drafted" gang members, and cartel members, who would have given them an edge in urban street fighting that the Soviets wouldn't have had an advantage in. But, we also know historically from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan that the Soviet tanks, and a lot of their military hardware was designed for colder terrain in Europe, and didn't fare well in the Afghan desert, and mountains. So, the climate differences in Canada, and the U.S. in addition to the rugged mountain terrain in Alaska, Canada, and the Rocky Mountains (where the U.S military. held the line) would have also been major challenges.

No sane sober plan would involve invading Alaska and proceeding down through Canada (1000 miles or more of mines, ambushes, and almost NO alternate routes to take) to invade Seattle. 60 divisions could and would be stopped cold.

@@Kokyiintx And if they took Seattle in its present state, it'd be such a waste...for THEM.

Surprise attack like Pearl Harbor or 9/11. Once the US was able to figure out what was going on they were able to contain the threat. So the scenario described could be plausible.

+Retardosaurusrex dame stright

+Retardosaurusrex Ummm, excuse me! I find your youtube name extremely offensive and racist!

Except that England owed its survival to massive military and food aide from the US. In a Red Dawn scenario, such aid would not exactly be forthcoming...

unfortunately the US had their own problems.

Retardosaurusrex yeah but the Soviets had nukes the Germans did not.

It brings to my mind intel and comms are paramount in a bad situation...

@@chrisdupree8382 That’s what the radio in the cake tin was for. “Here, use this to see where you stand now…”

Well, if you think Germany or France will protect America, I got news for you...

They didn't have cellphone and smartphones in the mid 80's, think about.

@@joethekinghawk7514 if you think you need cell phones and smart phones to gather and disseminate intel, you'll be terribly behind the learning curve in an emergency situation... ham radios and CBs were popular in those days.

Funny you mention Tombstone since Powers was in that too.

@@trajan74 and he's pretty damned good in Tombstone!! RIP - Boothe. great actor

He was magnificent in Tombstone.

Don’t disrespect Commodus !!

There's a great KZfaq video with a guy showing what the locations in the movie look like today.

Actually, the US is still a superpower in this movie, they're just strategically isolated

Corporal Bigglesworth so pretty much no NATO.

TheFi0r3 Exactly, NATO dissolved

+Zarcon A stronger Russia, with soldiers that were outfought by high school jocks and cheerleaders.

+Mistermax30 Not exactly outfought, seeing how they nearly all died in the end.

Just curious, did you have a moniker that made fun of Trump from 2017-2021? I only ask being yes, Biden sucks, but Trump was the worst president we ever had. He was even laughed at by the entire world at The UN....

@@Yoseman1 Nope. And honestly, I would have agreed Trump was the worst president of all time until I saw Biden's first year in office. They're about neck and neck right now.

The most far fetched? You do realize there are films about freaking zombies ?

@@Joke_Bidumb Worst president? You must hate a great economy, a major increase in jobs and manufacturing, and record low gas prices. Do you love being ruled by an incompetent and corrupt government that controls elections and supports nazi regimes like the Ukraine. I guess you'll be ecstatic when these devils that stole an election set off a false flag event with chemical warfare and inevitably World War 3. You do realize that before those 4 years there were 3 decades of genocidal wars in the middle east caused by 4 of the worst presidents in US history and war crimes caused by administrations made up of the most heinous people in history. I have two questions for you. Is TDS painful and do you ever watch anything else besides main stream media?

@@Joke_Bidumb horseshit. We weren’t paying for $6.00 gas, 40%inflation, empty shelves at grocery, and wide ass open borders under Trump. Biden has lost his faculties.

I couldn’t get into it because of that ridiculous scenario that was meant to be taken seriously. I much prefer the high-camp trash of Chuck Norris’ “Invasion USA.”

I mean it may not be that farfetched what would happen if a EMP took out everything we have no air defence on the heart of our country

Seeing as how our southern border is wide open and there are reportedly Chinese troops in Canada, not to mention other reports of sleeper military units in the US (particularly in Colorado), and given today's political climate with China and the fact that they have stockpiled billions of tons of commodities in the past two years... oh, and the v1rvs... This is a scenario today that is no so far-fetched, especially when you consider our spineless president and his dealings with China, as well as the UN's goal to revert North America back to principally farmland. I could easily see China wanting the USA for its food production capabilities. Thankfully we have lots more guns and ammo now than we did when this movie was made.

​@@fleatactical7390 It doesn't matter who the President is. The United States would not have much of a chance against both China and Russia in a conventional war. It would be a long bloody war but in the end, USA would lose. Nuclear weapons are the only thing preventing that scenario.

@@samuraigeorge71 the US would beat a Russian and Chinese joint invasion of the homeland. They would face conventional and guerilla warfare from the military and population.

The movie was a warning...

@@CD-yr8tw And a training video.

Mark Cherry classics are better than remake the remake sucks a nut

Not even close

Did not need a remake, all to get easy nostalgia cash.

@@OneofInfinity. Yeah if your as old as Ballz and grew up with it, The remake was intended for newer generations not a bunch of old farts watching it so they can gripe about how aweful it is.

@@thealternate6234 So did the remake fare better with it's audience than the original? Was the remake worth watching or interesting? What made it so? If you want to champion a generation that just copies older works of art and claims them to be better, you need to step up your game and explain why it is so. Because there will be some objections to that general point that have to be surmounted and already exist. Surely you are aware that "West Side Story" is an "updated" version of Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet" and that even "Romeo and Juliet" was based on the story of Pyramus and Thisbe. I am not quite so pessimistic to claim that there are no new stories, but a re-hash of an existing story needs to add something to the original or it is just a shitty copy.

Red Dawn makes up for the pathetic mess he made of REH's Conan.

@@alswann2702 while Milius's Conan does indeed diverge from Howards', Conan the Barbarian is still a wellwritten film, and one of my favourite Fantasy movies. Roger Ebert put it well in his review: "This movie is a lot better than it had to be."

They're sitting this one out. All except England, and they won't last very long.

Europe Paid the price in ww 1 and 2, yep let's set this one out...

@@WednesdayAddamsMW England, the ever faithful buddy.

@@joethekinghawk7514 Helps England didn't get invaded and it's populations reduced

+usmm05 The didn't just walk in, they had help. Traitors opened the door and saboteurs captured missile silos, check out my earlier point. But yeah, patriotic Texans, unlike gun-grabbing, PC-indoctrinated crybaby liberal Americans who can only operate espresso machines and I-phones (or Apple II's and IBM PC's in 1984), even lightly armed civilians, would give Cuban and Nicaraguan communists infiltrating into the USA through Mexico some serious punishment. The only way the Texans and Arizonians could be defeated is if they were stabbed in the back by liberal politicians, fifth columnists, saboteurs, traitors, and spies who opened the floodgate and allowed communist murderers and terrorists into the USA through the open and unguarded Mexican border..

I live down here is San Antonio Texas and living here 20 yrs I can tell you that with all the National Guard, Air force, Naval and hell even the coast guard bases we have down here the Cuban and Nicaraguan armies would be decimated

Walter I'm a Veteran and I'm glad to hear that and I believe you, but if it ever came to that nowadays, Obama wouldn't let you fine patriotic people down there protect yourselves, your families, businesses, and homes and defeat them- that would be racist and intolerant of multiculturalism..

+Maximuscaligula yeah Obama is an idiot he'd probably apologize to them if we fought back

+usmm05 Teenagers fighting off columns of Russian soldiers wasn't the most unrealistic part?

Right because the United States doesn't have a gas station every 660 ft.

The Soviets back then probably would've lost 50% of their forces just to reach their target. Acceptable to them. The Russians today would lose 3/4 of everything they have, and that's even without reaching their target. Acceptable to them. Their logistics, strategies/tactics, the lack of adapting to modern warfare, or thinking in general, it's a bad joke, massive losses & collateral damage are always part of the plan. They realy are Orcs. This being said, they could still fuck things up big time. If they would mobilize everything & everyone, that's a Tsunami you can't just stop. But it would stop itself, the whole thing would be crushed under it's own weight, because Russia doesn't work like that, it can't function like that for long. It basicly would be assisted suicide. But even that would be a win for them...

By dawns early light(1990) Powers Boothe, Rebbeca DeMornay. Soviets nuke Donetsk.

Loved him in deadwood, tombstone, turok, and several more. He went way too early :(

Powers Boothe character in this movie and other roles he played made for a great character study for our own upcoming post-apocalyptic adventure series (aimed at Netflix or their competitors), a saga set in the tropics of S.America 7-8months after a worldwide collapse occurs...

More so today 2 years after you said it. LOL

Lea Thompson had to move out the way swiftly, I note. ;)

Yeah

They made a remake? (refuse to believe it exist)

Mac Dee It's very shitty I heard their was gonna be a second part of red dawn.

I liked the Australian version

300 billion

Nukes gottem . I remember hearing that and that was my first thought

But what about the women? Or is Chinamen the (politically incorrect) term for Chinese persons in general?

@@WednesdayAddamsMW Yeah, it used to be

@@WednesdayAddamsMW why you freaking act like you don't know? It is not year 3458 or something

Accept the second kid is China.

@@chadgaston8615 China and Russia are pals I’d say. While the same context of the 2nd strongest doesn’t apply, I’d say it works. Taiwan is still a major flash point

I highly doubt Canadians would allow an invading army roll into their territory easily too. Maybe they would be defeated by the massive Red Army but they would not go down without a fight. If the Red Army managed to even get to the American border it would be very chewed up and running on fumes thanks to logistical issues. Russia right now is having a hell of a time supplying it's troops in Ukraine right now.

I would imagine that Alaskans would continue to wreak havoc on the Russians with guerrilla warfare even if their territory got overrun.

In 1984, Russian Army divisions who crossed the Bering Strait would have a very, very long drive over rough terrain before they would approach anything resembling a highway. Even then, guarantee you they'd get bogged down on the Alaskan highway. I mean, unless you count the Yukon, there's not exactly a road east of Nome. Can you imagine the supply line problems?

It’s nice to know that Alaska and Canada is backing up the lower 48! Thanks

@ty hawkins well, Alaskans don't consider themselves American, but we'd still fight!

@ That scary?

That's crazy! lol

LMAO ready?

Yep, it's about to.

Google Red Dawn alternate timeline. Someone wrote a great mini story depicting how the entire war commenced. It’s quite amazing how detailed it is.

Because they aren't strategic targets.

Why would they be? They’re civilian population centers full of people who hate guns.

I wondered if anyone would make a reference to current events.

Yep KZfaq just recommend after watching so much Ukraine war ...

Netflix right now is trying to decide if it would be distasteful to add it.

@@LaC64 I hope they do. Haven't seen that movie for years.

If the reds were paratrooping in on us in current year. They wouldn't be met with resistance. They'd be met with jubilation as they liberate us from "our democracy".

there are literally hundreds - probably thousands - of Chinese sleeper agents who have crossed the Mexican border into the US - and more are coming everyday. in the event of a war with China, they'll almost certainly act as stay-behind troops, saboteurs and spies. it's absolute insanity that such a thing is just allowed to occur. It's like the myth of the Trojan Horse... except the infiltrators don't even need to fool the guards or hide themselves inside a horse, they're just allowed to waltz inside the fortress with little to no opposition.

@@Dushmann_just goes to show how deep the corruption is with our leadership. Our country was sold out long ago.

@@talon1313 coming from the mouth of a democrat lile y ou, i carry that title with pride.

That's interesting! I found someone with the same avatar. Classic!

Coronavirus got em

Deterred by the nuclear fire.

It's China, they can replace them

@@CyanoticFuture na-na a boo-boo

kenneth mcgriff well its possible, but it would be hard, my understanding is that the cubans and nicaraugians came in through mexico, you could get 60 divisions across the straight, but not in any expedient time.

This was after Soviet ICBMs took out all major communication sources, NORAD, Washington D.C., Kansas City, etc.

+Lone Watie Did they nuke DC and KC or just bomb the shit out of them? If they nuked them then how didn't this whole war become a total nuclear war?

It's impossible until someone does it. The story also takes place in an alternative timeline with a stronger USSR so that's that.

And people tend to forget that this was set sometime in the mid 80's, when the USSR was still very much a world power and a lot of the warfighting tech we have today (like GPS and other surveillance stuff) didn't exist yet.

yes... it was after the Temple of Doom PG rating... They need something in the middle

Sounds just like how things were during the Cold War ... back to the future.

Not me...trying to make our country get invaded...so no....not really..

Russia cant even maintain a 20km supply chain, much less all the way to the US.

@@Jasongnc the Mexican landscape companies are Crack Special Ops . Listen to me now .... Believe me later.!!!!

Invading Army is already here. Just waiting on Hilary Rodhams orders. Surrender!!!!

June 29 2022. Still great!!

I literally grew up during the "cold war". Couldn't have said it better myself.

Maybe he was referring to the fact none of the kids had military haircuts? I mean back some of the movies and shows would basically just have men wear uniforms but still have non regulation hair and shave styles.

The 20th male archetype was the ww2 vet, John Wayne, Jimmy Dean and the 80s action stars. As well as, of course, RR. This was when we were at our strongest. Today we are led my Brandon and his former feckless, weak boss. And we fight over ‘men’ using woman’s bathrooms, gender pronouns. A weakened gender has created an extremely weak nation

@@dangc8315 What's sad is archeologists will tell you the exact same thing based on depictions from pottery. During the ascendency of the Greek and Roman Empires pottery depicted strong warrior males. During their downfall the pottery scenes had shifted to homosexual, ambiguous scenes. It's a mere statement of fact and not 'hate' speech. We're getting into the dangerous game of declaring anything not fitting the narrative 'hate speech' just as outlined in '1984' along with revisionist history. I wish we could hit reset and go back to the time this movie came out.

​@@tomservo5347 It's not a statement of fact, you're just pulling this out of your ass. The Roman Empire was at its height when it was pagan and thus socially acceptable to fuck men in the asshole. The emperor Hadrian literally had a young male lover that he made worshiped as a god after his death.

Possible ? This is the beginning of world war 3. Just doesn't seem that way to some . Ukraine isn't Russia's endgame. Why else would nato be beefing up defenses in their countries aside from a Possible deternce . They know something we don't

Putin is a thug under the thumb of Russian Mafia. He is not an autocrat of what Stalin was or a relic of what Gorbachev left behind.

Current events show there is no way in hell they could invade the US

@@tomdalton4293 I didn't mean the US, I know it would be practically impossible for them to invade the US; it would be a nightmare to do so. I meant the Ukraine 😏

Soviet Union > Russian Federation.

@@mbogucki1 Even still they will not have manpower logistics or even strategy to even take Alaska let alone enter the country.

@@nivlacsenoj6264 An invasion of the US/Canada would be a logistical nightmare true. And it would only really work if the rest of the planet is pacified. However my point is not whether it can or can not be done. I merely wanted to state that the Soviet Union had a much better chance of success than the Russian Federation ever could hope to muster. I think at best you can use an "invasion" as a distraction for the North Americans while you take over Europe.

@@mbogucki1 I agree

To be fair that “Convoy” is just the preamble, for a much harder, much worse campaign, a siege doesn’t happen overnight...

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YEA WHAT ABOUT EUROPE?

EXCELLENT POINT was just thinking that

I keep wondering now what is the Ukrainian version of , “WOLVERINES!!!”

@@carloscisneros9081 I thought that too. By the way good people, this is the SECOND time in my life time old or new Russia invaded someone. Dwell on that.

@@daarksideyt and?

@@daarksideyt well answer me this much. If the USA is so very evil and so comprable to Vladimir Putin, then why are so many millions of people trying to sneak in here illegally? Because during the Cold War people used to try to sneak OUT of communist Russia and communist Germany all of the time. United States is not perfect nobody is ever saying that that I know of, but I would hardly call it abject evil unless you just going to say that the whole world is evil in degrees which I could prove in the cosmic court everyday with almost every person

The part of the film with Powers Booth is the best in my humble opinion, but then, I have always liked his work a lot. I only wish he'd had the chance to play sympathetic characters more often. Casting people seemed to prefer him as morally-compromised types of roles and not as heroes or men of action.

Worst part for them was that it wasn't even Crete type terrain. They literally tried to pull what Germans did at the Oslo airport in 1940.