Brilliant! Just brilliant!!!

@@RedDwarfNerd Thank you :) I really am a smeghead, a complete and total one.

Now that's a fan fiction I like a lot! Brilliant thinking!

"a little nibble here, a little nibble there, and the next thing you know we're flying backwards

Yeah, I'd love to see all that kind of retro set dressing! The last thing we want is a Star Trek Discovery style of 'reimagining' where everything looks like it was made by imagination bypassed drones from apple and tesla! 🤣🤣

Triangular VHS tapes?

that would be cool, the Promised Land did imply that The Cat was once uncool, so perhaps theres room for a bit of fun uncoolness!

@@RedDwarfNerd It is also mentioned in S1 E4∙ "Waiting for God", The Cat priest mentions that only the sick, lame and stupid were left behind. And it comes out that Cats father was a "Jellybrain", and that explains why he chewed off his own foot.

I thin theres a lot more to the story of Rob leaving that we might never hear!

@@RedDwarfNerd So I've read/heard Rob Grant wanted to move on from Red Dwarf. In his own words "he wanted more than Red Dwarf on his Tombstone".

Having Danny in a sort-of-serious role could work if we're going down the comedy Kryten path. Especially as a padre role is one where age doesn't matter.

That could work, the priest was a nice change of pace from DJJ!

Why not? A good comedy is always welcome, all the more so since modern comedies tend not to be funny at all. And however good or bad this might turn out to be, it won't alter the original series at all, so if this is bad we can just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist. Though going by current trends, I doubt it will be much good, and instead might sacrifice any quality and real humour, and end up just being a preachy, virtue signaling drivel, propaganda vehicle, at least if the BBC have a say in it. Today is a terrible time for modern 'entertainment'.

​@@ConkerTSPersonally, I think it's a terrible idea, but then I watched the originals when they were first broadcast. Younger audiences, who maybe have only seen the more recent series, may well feel differently. As for your comments about preachy propaganda etc... times have changed, and maybe you, along with many others, haven't changed with them. I'm not a fan of the BBC per se, but they and others have done some really hard hitting, thought provoking drama and some great comedy. But, whether we like it or not, what people used to enjoy watching 20 years ago, doesn't always resonate with modern audiences. So things just age badly.

​@@another3997 ".". Ah, a reason-free insult to someone who prefers quality over something that's weakened by pointless propaganda, and dares to say so - is that really the best you could come up with in your attempt to virtue signal and silence a (perfectly justified, look at the evidence of the last Indiana Jones movie, or what Woke-ism over story has done to the Marvel Movie Universe) point that you don't want to acknowledge? Please let me explain a few facts here: 1. You are a bigot. You automatically assume that because I complain about something that you don't agree with (or more likely, that you don't want to recognize as being factually accurate), that I must be driven by mindless hatred. And then you insult me on that basis, because it makes you feel better to deny what you don't want to agree with, and you think it makes you look good to put down someone who you choose to describe as being somehow at fault, even though the evidence (most notably in the drop in viewing figures when a franchise employees unneeded or misjudged political correctness and it then to a large degree harms the quality of a franchise) supports me in my assessment. 2. I have been a big fan of Doctor Who since the late 1970s (I was born in 1970), and I have stuck with it through the ups and downs, even through the Sixth Doctor years (where Colin Baker was fantastic, but the stories were never better than below average at absolute best) and the seventh Doctor's tenure (which did include some fantastic stories, along with the awful ones, even with his dodgy acting), and even through the terrible first Jodie Whittaker season, but then the writing put me off too much . I mean, her Rosa Parks episode, for example, should have been brilliant, but the writing was terrible, with it's message all white men were racist (aside from Grahame, who had the advantage of travelling with the so influential Doctor, who was naturally unbiased because she was a women (c) BBC unofficial rules), including the episode's alien/time traveller/whatever villain (to be fair, it's the BBC, so of course the villain was a white male), the fact that the episode has an alien/time traveller/whatever villain at all, when instead it should just have been about Rosa Parks and the civil Rights movement and the countless (and often literally fatal) legal and illegal problems that blacks (well, all non-whites really, but the PC brigade never seem to bother about the prejudices that Asians and other non-white people suffer, presumably there's no PC street cred in standing up for, say, Native Americans who suffer abuse) had/still have to tolerate in the USA. It could have been a superb episode, very educational to those who have never heard of Rosa Parks before. But the BBC didn't give it to a good writer (or if they did, then the BBC utterly ruined it in later edits), and just had to put in a white male villain from the future, to underline how bad white men are, because the BBC loves to prioritizes unproductive PC over actual quality, at least with Doctor Who - I haven't watch anything else from the BBC for years, so I don't know how other programs fare now. And then the latest episode (the first of the new series) of Doctor Who finally came out, and it couldn't be more propaganda-focused. And the way it ruined the episode is hard to put into words. And many true fans (who bigots like you would delight in dishonesty calling 'bigots' - oh the irony) were so disappointed that have decided to boycott the show from now on. This is their right, but to hateful people like you, Red Dwarf Nerd, their actions are no doubt wrong, and driven purely by their hatred of transspeople because they refused to overlook the Grand Canyon sized drop in quality and also because they refused to sycophantically pretend to love the program as they should (at least to people like you) when it is PC and so nothing else about it matters. 3. The propaganda (which it was, albeit propaganda intended to make a good and legitimate point, that transsexuals' are people too, they feel pain just like everyone else, and deserve the same respect as everyone else is deserving of) in that new Doctor Who episode was both pointless and very badly written. Not that either of those points bothers the extreme politically correct people, who see any PC content at all as somehow automatically making something a hundred times better. But the PC message, which drowned out anything else good in the program, was unnecessary for most of us, who understand that transsexuals' are like us except in one way that doesn't effect (or need concern) anyone else, just like we understand that people who have red hair, or green eyes, or who are in a wheel chair, or are left handed, are just like most of us, except for one specific attribute or other that doesn't effect that person's morality or otherwise give cause for us to be wary or distrustful of that person. Yes, there are mindless bigot who think otherwise, and see transsexuals as weird, or dangerous, or even as targets to be harrased or even physically assaulted, but how many of those people do you think even watch Doctor Who in the first place? I don't know that, but I am quite certain that not one braindead bigot will watch that episode of Doctor Who (or even a billion other episodes) and will then think "". It was just pointless. This episode was utterly ruined, at times it didn't even feel like Doctor Who, even fan favourites the tenth Doctor and Donna couldn't save it. And of course, since it was the BBC, the episode included the obligatory anti-male bias - such as when Donna said (I can't remember her exact words) to the Doctor "It's a pity you're not still a woman. If you were still a woman, then you would understand"". If the genders had been reversed, then your fellow bigots, sorry your fellow politically correct angels, Red Dwarf Nerd, would have complained all over the internet about the sexism, but since it's against men then no politically correct self proclaimed egalitarian thought it even worth mentioning. 4. The actual point of the propaganda is NOT the issue. It's the fact that the propaganda we see now so often ruins the quality of the story, regardless of the subject of the PC message. It could be something that the majority of us care about (transsexual rights, gay rights, women's rights, the environment, animal rights etc), or something that only some of us care about (making more software open source, making the government do more to encourage people to take up cycling instead of cars, get the food industry to use more sugar substitutes instead of real sugar, etc), and if it's ladled on to the extend of harming the story then that is going to please no one who cares about the actual quality of the movie or TV show. 5. The only people likely to be impressed by your virtue signaling and your insulting someone who judges quality by quality instead of mindlessly supporting misjudges political correctness, are not worth impressing. 6. I CANNOT understand how it is that you don't seem to see the hypocrisy in your (a) claiming to be concerned about the quality of a TV program, then (b) insulting someone who does nothing more than point out the FACT that something (in this case overt political correctness) is objectively reducing the quality of so many franchises. You didn't even try to reason with me (I know, it's ridiculous to imagine that a virtue signaling hypocrite like you would be capable of objective reason, especially when instead you can just mindlessly insult that person instead) or use any evidence (which, to be fair, is all in my favour) to disprove my point. You don't even have the virtue of seeming stupid, at least if you were stupid then it might be that you had been indoctrinated to see all PC as good regardless of how it harms something. Instead I can only assume that you are as hypocritical and bigoted as you really seem to be. And therefore beyond reason. And people like you are supporting the lowering of quality in TV and movies, with your blind "", or to put it more simply, your attitude reduces to "." Anyway, feel free to post any drivel you like in response to this, safe in the knowledge that I won't be replying to it, or even reading it. Or visiting your channel again. A pity, as I like talking about Red Dwarf, but not to someone like you.

The best thing about it is you don’t have to watch it.

It's difficult to argue with that, the OG cast are just so darn perfect! But I'm looking forward to seeing how this comes out!

Yeah, Red Dwarf is due a decent game!

Terraform only confirms that his last software update was copyrighted 2340, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have been manufactured far earlier.

Yeah, the books, especially Infinity welcomes, Better than Life, and Backwards really do last in the mind! I would love a show that really feels like the book universe!

If he disgards everything from season 7 onwards we could have an alternate conclusion to Out of time so we would have two conclusions Tikka to ride and a new one

An inquisitor cameo could be brilliant! perhaps have him in the background putting pace trash on trial! :-)

Cheers! more specials would also be brilliant! I'm hoping now theres some Red Dwarf momentum the next special will be along soon!

I'm sure there'll be novels, I just hope for a chris barrie audiobook version as well!

I'm not nervous as such, if its good then that's brilliant - if not, then at least they tried!

I'm quietly optimistic, I'm thinking that the novels are so good, that an alternative universe Dwarf could work just fine

Yeah, sky high positive potential... and verry deep negative potential!

But there's no place, in the whole of space...............

Lunar City Seven

@@davidwuhrer6704 my idea of heaven

Perry N'Kwomo's album Nice 'n' Nauseating!

@@RedDwarfNerd Think it's in the first novel when one of his songs comes on, it's smoochin' time. And Lister is sat at the bar all alone. It's the "Pretentious, watashi?" bit with Kochanski.

Unless in the Titan show Kryten is so new that he's not been given a name yet.

Yeah, like some sort of guiding hands, or like that really clever Deep Space 9 episode where they put the DS9 cast in an old Kirk era episode, like they'd been there the whole time!

Ha! That's the day job making videos! Fortunately I've never had one of my customers videos pop up on my feed, I think it would freak me out a bit! 😂😂😂

The original series was pretty "woke" mate...

I dont know, as it's a spin off and not strictly more of the original shows run, I think it can get away with alot!

Yeah, or that new version of van halen with no member of the van halens in it!

Very true, but I'm just glad that there at least trying!

Ha, yeah, the show doesn't seem to mind characters suddenly changing face! Just look at Kryten, Holly & Kochanski!!!

This. Show me a reboot/reimagining/prequel made in the last few years that hasn’t been utter and total dogshit. At least he hasn’t used the phrase that definitely shows it is to be avoided like weaponised syphilis. “we are reimagining it for a modern audience”. Yet.

Yeah, lets hope this is just about characters and comedy, not sharing a 'message

I don't think the first novels being an influence is any bad thing, there so darn good! It'll be great if Titan has a feel like the novels!

If the casting is right, all will be well... if not...

Cheers, I'm enjoying the brighter looking set! :-) Yeah, it could be a little like the episode Parallel Universe, with the female crew existing alongside the male one.

I think in the TV show, in Marooned, Lister saying about "planet leave, Miranda, that space bar the Hacienda" this could be used to imply they met on or just before Miranda, then the ship headed back towards Titan.

Yeah, I think the books had a big behind the scenes influence on the show, I guess because books have unlimited scope and budget! :-)

I'm not really worried about it messing with the show, as its a spinoff not a reboot, so anything that happens which we dont like can be hand waved away as just being 'one universe to the side' and not having an effect on the prime timeline!

I get what your saying, and I have some hope that 'porridge in space' is what we might get once again, as Rob Grant spoke about that porridge vibe in the quarantine commentaries, so lets hope for the best!

Yeah, perhaps they'll take the casting in a completely new direction and have it that in this universe Lister and Rimmer are very different people, perhaps rimmer is the slob and lister is the OCD one, something like that?

Red dwarf needs to end in itself really, an alternative time line is kind of odd to be doing when you've already got the main canon, it's like marvels what if series, nobody cares about the side show when we've just watched the main feature.

I've never had a big problem wit the silliness, where I struggled was them changing important character points - like Rimmer not really being the son of an over achieving upper-class guy. But as long as Titan is treated as a spin off and not a reboot, then I think it'll be okay, as it can't really impact any established canon.

@@RedDwarfNerd the trouble is if it can't impact any established canon then why am I watching it? This is being done cos Rob Grant and Doug Naylor don't get along and Rob and Doug have been releasing their own versions of red dwarf for years through books etc and it gets too much. Im only interested in one canon and that's the main one. This isn't even a spin off it's supposedly a different time line altogether so it's the same as marvels what if series, why do I care with side shows? I personally don't.

yep! :-)

They'll never leave the prime universe and we know it! 😂

yeah, the 'each series is its own reality' argument is a popular one. I also like to think that as they once broke lightspeed, the rules of normal reality will never quite apply to the dwarfers!

Agreed!

@RedDwarfNerd time travel episode's where they go back to each season and make sight changes to solve a problem in the current day. This stuff writes itself!

Series 8 was no worse than anything on Dave, the show started declining after series 6 really in that Robert Llewelyn's mugging and overacting starts becoming more annoying and the characters in general are dumbed down and full of cheap slapstick which the Dave channel only encourages cos it's a channel for meat heads who don't like anything too challenging. They'll never get it better than series 6, that was where dwarf should've stopped. The rest has just been limping on ever since with poorer and poorer returns and Craig Charles needs to lose weight or change costume cos he is not pulling off that leather look anymore he looks terrible.

yeah, there's a lot of ways the story and the characters could go, but its all going to come down to three things: casting, casting & casting!

I will say that it's true that it did go downhill after season 6

Perhaps the post series 6 hate is the very reason for going backwards timewise?

Me Neither. These things never seem to turn out well.

Yeah, I guess the first HUGH hurdle is actually getting this off the drawing board!

Red dwarf has some canon... its just buried down deep 🤣🤣🤣

Series 10 Episode 6 is already named 'The Beginning', but I suppose Rob Grant could call it 'The Start'

Oh yeah, I keep meaning to make a video called 'Hologram McIntyre, the forgotten radiation leak survivor'!

it'll certainly be very tough! they'll either have to scour the land for 2 guys who are brilliant mimics, or take the characters in slightly different directions

Any time! 😂😂😂👍👍👍

@@RedDwarfNerd THANKSSSS. I love your videos and I do some Red dwarf vids too

Totally, good or bad, it'll be worth seeing!

ha! too true!

I think both have their strengths, but having read all the books, I have high hopes that Rob could do a good job!

Yeah, I think there is some great potential here to explore forgotten threads and stories! I'd really like to see more of the original backstory of Lister and Rimmer, where there from, there families, etc.

yeah, casting casting casting!

That's true, but I think Rob Grant said a while back that both he and Doug have the rights to a spin off, so perhaps Doug Naylor will make a show with fun side characters?

Ha, yeah, what could go wrong! 🙂

Don't forget the Chinese worry balls, I think we're going to need s few sets of those! :-)

I've been using a pair of bowling balls as worry balls since hearing this new concept for the script (About 4 days ago) and each one are already down to the size of "Bindi Badgie of the Vinalooin empires" eyeball (AKA Krytens eyeball) @@RedDwarfNerd

@@Electrodoc1968 Blimey! "Grind those balls sir!"

Perhaps he'll surprise us and the characters will be completely different and fresh?!

Agreed! and I'd love to see the Backwards novel included as well!

Totally! Star Trek's recent poor efforts in particular have me very sceptical! But as you say, lets live in hope!

@@RedDwarfNerd In thinking about it, I amsuer he looked at the Kelvin Timeline, which I hated at first, but the upshot is that it distinctly separates the universes, and unlike Star Wars does not upset established fan and cannon as much. eg rewe still talka bout Trek, but mentally partition the Kelvin content... and that's a good thing, as it doesn't exit lol. Funny... had the Big Red on loop for the last week in the background

@@kosh6612 I wasn't really thinking of the Kelvin trek, tbh I don't hate the Kelvin stuff, mostly just the recent discovery and strange new world's 'Re-imaginings'

@@RedDwarfNerdI refer to it only as a convenient way to sidestep established 'cannon', while also partitioning old/new content . Eg Disney Star Wars has impacted the original movies, yet while they made similar changes in Trek.. it didn't interfere with the original series. That could work well for the big red one. But the real question... the important question, the one we all want an answer to... (scroll down) would you like some toast?

@@RedDwarfNerd Don't forget the total desecration of Dr. Who. No show is safe right now - the good news is most people have already decided that all the "new" stuff doesn't actually exist. Star War has 6 movies, Indiana Jones has 3, End Game really was the end ,and so on. If you do that. then your favourite shows keep their earned efforts and all that other stuff is just like the 1950s and 1960s Dracula's Son, Son of Frankenstein, and all the other completely forgotten destructive versions of great IPs to use a modern term with class concepts.

I certainly hope so! I hope this is made asap!

Very true! some of the recent stuff (I'm looking at you Star trek!) has been awful. But I think that a lot of the issues stem from shows being made by a huge committee of writers and producers, all putting there 10p worth in and ruining things! Lets hope Rob can keep this small and undiluted by corporate plonkers!

I've soe moments from 7-9 that I like, but as a whole they don't stand up to the original 1-6 series!

Just the timeframe and ideal ages. Plus, tbh, I think that Craig and Robert are too busy for to take on a full show.

Series X was interesting, because it went along way to move away from what was wrong with S7-9, and some of it was brilliant, but there were many issues as well. Whereas Series 2, 4 and 5 are about perfect in my book!

Goodness no! we want people who can act! 🤣🤣🤣

Let hope this gets made!

Thats kinda true, and there is comedy that comes from that ignoring of canon, bit it needs some grounding to stop it being all over the place!

Ha, that is a fair concern! Hopefully with Dwarfs diverse cast it may get left alone

Yeeeeeeees

Ha, what could go wrong?! :-)

@@RedDwarfNerd dude, have you even seen the red dwarf fandom on tumblr?

Because Dwane Dible is an alternate personality of the cat so you couldn't have him without the cat just like you couldn't have Tyler Durden without Edward Nortons character in Fight Club

Dwane himself throws up the same continuity issues, but that's not t say DJJ can't make an appearance as an equally dorky character with the big teeth and bad hair! :-)

That's a fair point, a lot of people are apprehensive on this one!

We'll just have t wait and see i suppose.

I'm trying not to see this as a full reboot, more as just a spin off which simply wont be able to ruin established canon, as it's in its own reality/universe.

I agree that cast and chemistry are vital, but I'm willing to give them a shot at finding some great actors for the role

That's a little harsh... but then looking at the trash coming out of the star trek franchise right now, it's hard to argue against you!

Thats fair, many people make a cut off at series 6 or 7, but I try to be accepting of the good and bad in all the output

I guess there just out of choices this late in the game, the OC actors are all getting on, so there's just no choice but to start afresh!

True, but why not start completely afresh with a new show set in the same universe? @@RedDwarfNerd

@@chriswagg1354 perhaps Doug Naylor wants to do that spin off, so this is all Rob is allowed to do?

I'm on the fence, I think if they can get the right lister and rimmer actors, with the right chemistry, then it could be brilliant!

@@RedDwarfNerd Rimmer is neurotic They'll get someone who's pompous with a high pitched London attitude And that won't work That's why I don't think it'll work They'll try to keep the characters close to the original but everyone will just instantly remember the originals negating the point of the show

probably a very fair point!

fair deal! :-)

The original series was pretty "woke" mate...

@@darkjapan not really. Nowhere near. a strange thing to say

@@paulwoodford1984 Go and watch the Launching Red Dwarf documentary. In that Craig talks about first getting the script to read because G&N were worried the part of the Cat could be considered racist. In fact watch any of the show documentaries again. Danny and Craig are always talking about how unusual it was to have black lead characters. Call it "social work messaging" if you like, but RD has always been show that has had an anti discrimination message.

Lets just hope for a comedy and character based show, not one trying to send a 'message' - left wing, right wing or otherwise!

Thats fair, a lot of people only count series 1-6, but I'm very curious on this!