Very much agree :)

To add to my original comment. Only people like us will see these details. The other 99% will be watching the content. The FS7 is more than good enough to capture good content with the right people behind the the camera. Also, how many FS7's could you own, or extra glass, external recorder to record 12bit ProRes raw etc. If you're buying into a RED setup, you'll need deep pockets.

Overexposing by 1-3 stop is recommended IF you are shooting S-Log. For all other picture profiles, expose "normally" and do not overexpose - protect the highlights.

Bobby Hicks, can you expand on your technique to distinguish the cameras ? tia

It was again educated guesses, but I was looking for color shifts and resolution in fine details like hair. Sony's typically have a stronger green channel, I notice, so trees look a little more vibrant, and details like hair are nicer with RED. In the dark test, I looked for skin tone - Sony is terrible with skin tone so the red saturation in Anthony's face kinda picked that for me. I'm sure that there were better examples to distinguish them, but KZfaq compresses everything so much that it doesn't really matter. This was just meant to be fun, showing how both cameras are workhorses.

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Thanks my friend! There is quite a learning curve with this camera unfortunately, but in my opinion, worth it! I general use a customized HG7 setting. You are correct with the HG8 setting as well, but I don't switch back and forth that often. I have not toyed with moving the sensor area around to calculate the light source...tell me more!?!

Jersey Filmmaker I can’t take credit...I learned from Doug Jensen’s 6 Hour FS7 MasterClass online. That’s where I learned about the focus sensor setting which allows you to choose where the light source is calculated. Imagine you have subject sitting in a room with a window behind them where it is sunny outside. You can tell the Sensor to calculate the light for exposure based on the person’s face rather than the brightest part of the frame which would be the daylight outside. You can tell it to ignore whatever part of the frame you choose.

So you must be talking about an auto mode? Because I would generally use some scopes or waveforms or zebras or false color (on an external monitor of course) or something along those lines to expose, not let the camera decide for me. I've also watched his course (which is fantastic) but must have skipped that part once I heard auto lol. The only auto I'll use on this camera is an auto white balance if i'm run & gun and moving throughout different spaces or going back and forth indoors and outdoors. I always expose manually

I‘m not a fan of video making, but this youtuber deserve much more subs, so I subscribed.

Pevans yeah always a bummer and tough to present tests when they are going to get compressed anyway. But if you didn’t see it already, I just did a RED Weapon and Raven comparison and added links to download 4K and RAW files to look at for yourself ... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rraHf8-isNiUloE.html

I get this question a lot, I'll put it on the list!

I never said this was the end all be all to make a decision on which camera to use or buy, I was just simply comparing the visuals on each (to answer your question). All the points you made are great...yes budget matters, yes ergonomics are different, yes of course you can tell the same story, and there are a million more things to think about...but I wasn't comparing those things in this video. I know exactly what you mean about the cost of the two cameras and their accessories, I've purchased and own 3 REDs and 3 Sonys. So if I made a video called "FS7 vs. RED Raven - Which is better bang for your buck?" and only spoke about the camera's prices, would that be clickbait too? I'm not sure why you seem so angry that I made a video comparing the two, in whichever way I've decided to compare them. It's very odd to me when people hate on someone for simply putting information out there. How you interpret and use the information, is up to you.

Being from the Camden area myself , I have to say you seem sensitive in you assertion to me "hating" on your review... not at all. Just pointing out that impressionable types often rely on comparison videos a little too much as they are never really on the level. The Chevy has more horses but the Ford has the suspension, that kinda thing. At the end of the day, one has to measure their budget to the story they wanna tell or vice versa... cheers!

You're research has done you well! Here's my opinion, and solely my opinion so you should do tests and decide for yourself... I don't like BlackMagic's camera systems and workflow. Love the image!! But just don't enjoy working with the camera physically. So they come off my list immediately. The c200 is amazing if you want to shoot RAW or 1080. I hate that it drops down to 8-bit in 4k. And the RAW files are a bit heavy. But again, an amazing image. The FS7 is by far the best bang for your buck, but the hardest to work with when it comes to image and color. It can produce great images, but there is a little bit of a learning curve. You really need to have a good understanding of the camera. Hope this helps...best of luck!!

Jersey Filmmaker Thanks so much for your time and advice. Kind regards ::))

Chris Kennedy I wanted to use the same LUT throughout the all the shots so to see how the images reacted to it. I chose HR4 because I generally like higher contrast shots. So it was just a preference in look for me and consistency in the testing process.

Portzir great point, idk why I said “both” ISO’s. The FS7 has more internal ND than I have for my matte box that I had on the Raven. So I went with the appropriate ND on the FS7 and only lowered the ISO on the Raven, not a on the FS7. I’ll make a note in the episode notes to correct it. Thank you

Mainly because my desk is height adjustable and I needed to keep them out of the way. They also don't fit on my desk, they look better up high and it pushes the sound nicely through the room when I'm jammin' out :P

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The intro was an A7Sii and my talking head was the FS5

earthbound because raw doesn’t record internally on the FS7. And I promise, almost nobody actually uses Sony raw files (at least on a regular basis), so that’s an unrealistic comparison.

Jersey Filmmaker hook up an external recorder and do this test the right way. There are plenty of people that shoot fs7 raw.

PARA RECORDS External Recording using RAW Output and convert it in the recorder in ProRes up to UHD. Internal recording max 1080p 10bit. UHD internal doesn’t make sense in 8 bit. Hope that helps.

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To be quite honest, I've never shot anything in HDR. I've seen footage and don't love the look of it. Feels like a "painted" image, just looks fake in my eyes (that's subjective of course). But my point is that I sadly don't know much about it, and should invest the time to learn more. So to your comment though, I don't think this is the biggest reason people choose RED cameras. It's more so, in my opinion, because of the image quality, workability of their REDcode RAW, build modularity & the sensor/body upgradability. Again, just my opinion and thoughts, not factual/definitive comment

It is ok, it is your opinion,I respect it, but it is little like to have Turbo on car and dont use it or HDR on still cameras and dont use it ;-)and f.e. I did photos on Sony A6300 on seychelles , you have no chance to have on beaches like D Argent with rocks in shadow to have sky and shadows without that;-)! and hmm "painted image"- you can change it a lot in post and of course it is used in only in critical contrast scenes not all time, but simply in red cameras you have this possibility in others you havent!!! and I think that their proclamation of 16.5+DR is not of normal mode ,but exactly of HDRX mode, or do you know really any camera sensor, that has 16.5+ DR;-)?look on test of red helium or dragon on dxomark and you will see, and sony fs7 has on cinema5D web cca 12.5 usable DR, A7S series+A7RII 12DR (SONY brand proclamation is 15dr-SORRY no way!, I own A7RII and it has max. 12-13 DR in slog2 -cca almost like BMCC 2.5K I compared it), only arri amira on cinema5D had real 14 DR -it is one of the reason its popularity in film industry. And I think because it is simply technical limitation of nowadays sensors, red cameras like scarlet-w or raven has I read about 13 DR without HDRx as you saw on your comparing of raven and fs7 result od different DR make perfect sense...video of this car really has no 16.5+ DR :-)good light and thanks for your videos!

Excalibrr1 that all sounds pretty accurate to me, great info thank you! I will need to dive into HDR at some point. I’m sure I’ll talk about it in an episode when I do 👊🏼👍🏼

Really you will do video?It could be great!:-)

Excalibrr1 IF and when I study it more and learn it, I would do a video. That would be a while from now though because I don’t have any experience and I wouldn’t want to speak on anything I don’t know too much about

Michael Weizenfeld early in the video I explain why I tested this way (at 3:25). I completely understand that you personally may want to see the true color reproduction for your needs, so I’m sorry for not delivering on that :/. But for my workflow and delivery, this is the type of test that works best for me, so that’s the way I went about it. To say that this test is incorrect, in my opinion, is incorrect 😏 HOWEVER, I love what you said because this does beg the question...is the camera more important or the colorist?!?!? 🤔

Jersey Filmmaker Heh, my opinion is: when you need a colorist, then something gone wrong in preproduction and production) Bad camera, bad lighting, bad filters, bad makeup, bad costumes, wrong shooting time, etc. Good colorist can repair some of that, anyway it is something about "we'll fix it in post".

Well, I respectfully COMPLETELY disagree. You do realize that every single movie in Hollywood goes through a color correction and grade right? Does that mean things went wrong or they messed up in pre-production production? Absolutely not!! Color is a just another (and very important) part of telling a story. At the very simplest level, adding contrast or saturation to certain parts of the images to draw your attention to a specific detail adds great value to your story. If you think you only need a colorist to "fix it in post", then I'm assuming you haven't worked with one before. I think you will be blown away when you work with a good one.

Jersey Filmmaker I hope they make good material even better, and use these instruments for creative purposes. Probably they plan their decisions during the preproduction. Not for repair shitty colors of a bad camera) They mostly use Alexas which has the best color reproduction in the industry) Even sony understand their issues implementing a new venice color science in a new cameras.

Bullshit no where near 15k huge.

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