RED Sonja WILL Not CATER to the MALE Gaze? So who is it FOR!?

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@xarfai6124
@xarfai6124 4 ай бұрын
Why make a Red Sonja movie/show if you don't like what Red Sonja is all about?
@yetanotherspuart3993
@yetanotherspuart3993 4 ай бұрын
Why make anything these days? All those working in mainstream entertainment today despise the past.
@BoomBoomBoom..
@BoomBoomBoom.. 4 ай бұрын
Communist destroy everything on purpose, for an agenda.
@bambam144
@bambam144 4 ай бұрын
so that they can destroy the old series and bring up moo message it's like the chinese culture revolution 2.0.
@jayne775
@jayne775 4 ай бұрын
Why make a video about the male gaze and not mention Judy Chicago?
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
Because it's about sending a message. It's about taking away, in their minds, something that straight men and lesbian women both enjoy, and mutilating it beyond recognition.
@StergiosMekras
@StergiosMekras 4 ай бұрын
...Sonja has canonically EXPLICITLY stated she does it to distract men. And Conan called her an idiot for it and told her to wear some proper armour. Also, if they don't give us a hot redhead Iranian (Hyrkanian) as Sonja, we riot.
@PipoZePoulp
@PipoZePoulp 4 ай бұрын
bump for visibility
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 4 ай бұрын
It's somewhat ironic that Conan tells anybody to wear armor when he is barely covering himself as well
@StergiosMekras
@StergiosMekras 4 ай бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 That's an artifact of the movies, unfortunately. Canonically, Conan always goes for the best armour he can buy ...at least for the situation he needs it for.
@vonfaustien3957
@vonfaustien3957 4 ай бұрын
Canonically she's never met Conan as she lived thousands of years after he died.
@benjaminthibieroz4155
@benjaminthibieroz4155 4 ай бұрын
Conan is 100% right on this one.
@RagnarokiaNG
@RagnarokiaNG 4 ай бұрын
Feminism, clothing and sensitive emotions are definitely what I think of when I think Barbarians.
@skyknight0408
@skyknight0408 4 ай бұрын
They force their way in and destroy everything. Won't get more Barbarian than that!
@RachDarastric2
@RachDarastric2 4 ай бұрын
"Waaah! I gripped my axe with a incoopertively bending finger and broke a nail! I'm a strong independent woman! I can row my longship to the clothing mall on my own!"
@ThomasTomiczek
@ThomasTomiczek 4 ай бұрын
Well, first - it is ot RED Sonja anymore, it is Purple Sonly or Blue Sonja, by the color of her Hair. Also, she is a martial artist that weights 250kg, an indigenous trans person of color. Oh, and she is actually Karen, not Sonja. She likely also fights patriarchy by working a minimum wage job in some retail outlet. Still on track with the lore, right? Just a little interpretation to modern woke times.
@skyknight0408
@skyknight0408 4 ай бұрын
I think youtube got offended again and deleted my comment, because I suggested that those people forcing their way in and destroying everything is the most Barbarian thing I've seen in a while.
@78endriago
@78endriago 4 ай бұрын
.... so modern day Los Angeles
@goodlookinouthomie1757
@goodlookinouthomie1757 4 ай бұрын
Well that's fine if they also do not want to cater to the male wallet.
@captainz9
@captainz9 4 ай бұрын
My wallet is certainly closed to this nonsense.
@censorthispuertorican
@censorthispuertorican 4 ай бұрын
😁 and then they'll turn around and blame men for not watching the movie that wasn't made for them.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
They think the male feminist and the 4th wave feminist wallet will make up for the shortcomings... They also think that they are making history and will be hailed as visionaries in the years to come.
@censorthispuertorican
@censorthispuertorican 4 ай бұрын
@@TheMaleRei 😁 gotta love how they act like every movie they make is the first time anyone has ever done the thing that Hollywood has been doing for the last thirty years.
@elcuervacho9423
@elcuervacho9423 4 ай бұрын
I predict Red Sonja will be successful at avoiding The Male Buck too.
@elcuervacho9423
@elcuervacho9423 4 ай бұрын
@@Eidolon1andOnly And it is that redundancy that makes the world go round.
@user-zw5yx8pw6u
@user-zw5yx8pw6u 4 ай бұрын
🎼🎶I🎵Predict🎶 - Sparks 🎹🎸
@user-zw5yx8pw6u
@user-zw5yx8pw6u 4 ай бұрын
@@Eidolon1andOnlyBuck is a slang term in Australia 🇦🇺 and the USA 🇺🇸 for 💵.
@user-zw5yx8pw6u
@user-zw5yx8pw6u 4 ай бұрын
AKA Dollah, Dollah Bill Y’all.
@BeauregardQuitman
@BeauregardQuitman 4 ай бұрын
Red Sonja was written as beautiful but also as a boss. She was Conan’s equal. Male gaze? Isn’t it rude to assume gender? I may identify as a female!
@vonfaustien3957
@vonfaustien3957 4 ай бұрын
As per the Orginal Howard Sonja never met or interacted with Conan they lived sevral thousand years apart
@DellikkilleD
@DellikkilleD 4 ай бұрын
@@vonfaustien3957 that changes nothing op said lmfao.
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 4 ай бұрын
Bullshit she wasn't Conan equal, no one was Conan equal , including God like beings and monsters
@hatmanbuilder
@hatmanbuilder 4 ай бұрын
@@vonfaustien3957 Howard Sonya has nothing do do with Sonja we know now, even the name was changed.
@BeauregardQuitman
@BeauregardQuitman 4 ай бұрын
@@RichardPhillips1066 she was captain of her own ship and Conan didnt try to take it away from her. He had great respect for her. Pedantic much?
@charlesmaurer6214
@charlesmaurer6214 4 ай бұрын
She was not gay in the story, she was a strong woman who made it clear she wanted to be conquered and would not yield. She had standards that required a stronger man. They are out to destroy the role forever just like the woke trash ghostbusters remake.
@InternetHydra
@InternetHydra 4 ай бұрын
"destroy the role forever" Wrong, only for so long as they control it. Their interpretation will be thrown into a pile and burnt.
@UltimateTobi
@UltimateTobi 4 ай бұрын
@@InternetHydra One can hope. So far, anything that's been gripped is still in their control, or has been dropped and not been picked up, by someone who is not woke. (Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, Saints Row, anything Marvel or DC, anything else Disney, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Assassins's Creed, CD Projekt has fallen and they are only starting with this, beware the TW remake and TW4 in the future, heck even remakes of Japanese games have wokisms in them.) We have no precedent for "will be thrown into a pile and burnt." There is, however, increasing backlash. So, as I said, one can hope.
@mar_speedman
@mar_speedman 4 ай бұрын
@@UltimateTobi I'm not sure about the comics (they seem to still be good from random snippets I've seen) but the DC animated movies are still fairly not woke. Surprisingly, DC seems to be going strong where Marvel is just a complete mess right now (Not that surprising since it's under Disney, the most woke company ever)
@UltimateTobi
@UltimateTobi 4 ай бұрын
@@mar_speedman No idea about the comics. In regards to movies/shows, Batwoman is probably in the forefront of my mind when thinking DC. And that was Woke Beyond Belief. It's the sheer mass of infiltration on all fronts in various ways.
@mar_speedman
@mar_speedman 4 ай бұрын
@@UltimateTobi Never judge DC by their live action movies, my friend. If you look at anything Marvel, it's always woke, whether it's a comic, animated series, or MCU. DC has two great animated movie universes that are superior to the MCU, they're just stupid and trying to copy the MCU for their live action films instead of doing what they're doing in their animation department In short, look up the DCAMU (2010s series, got concluded) and the Tomorrowverse (2020s series, still going strong)
@yetanotherspuart3993
@yetanotherspuart3993 4 ай бұрын
So the studio is making it for the studio. Good for them.
@DodgyTodger
@DodgyTodger 4 ай бұрын
Well, they'll get to watch it on their own and go broke. Living the dream they are
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
@@DodgyTodger They unironically believe that "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message."
@chuckchan4127
@chuckchan4127 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheMaleRei And we will send a message back to them!
@seefoghall
@seefoghall 4 ай бұрын
The studio is making it for their alphabet friends. Who don't spend money on entertainment.
@elikyiael8740
@elikyiael8740 4 ай бұрын
i hope they'll have fun making a movie for absolutelly nobody again
@justinblocker730
@justinblocker730 4 ай бұрын
We need to call the Police, FBI, or something, we have an entire "Modern audience" that is missing! Apparently 1 Billion people worth of paying customers that have just vanished!
@elikyiael8740
@elikyiael8740 4 ай бұрын
@@justinblocker730you made me laugh mate, so by twitter law you're automatically cancelled for gracism, sxism, hmophonia and for being white
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 4 ай бұрын
"Director claims movie will avoid the male gaze" That is literally saying they don't want men watching the movie. I'm pretty sure men will comply.
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
By your command!
@jayne775
@jayne775 4 ай бұрын
No, it's 'literally' referring to a socio-cultural, aesthetic, philosophical concept developed in the second half of the twentieth century. There are books about It, artworks in response to it. It makes no prescriptions about how men or women should look or see or who they should find attractive. It doesn't even assume the one who gazes is a man. It's an exploration of the use of art in historical progress and the production of social narratives.
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 4 ай бұрын
@@jayne775 blah blah blah. I know all that. I'm just saying that the simple (literal) interpretation of those words is more accurate. After all, "the is author dead", right? It's irony, because that's not how that author would want that interpreted at all.
@theworstcatholic7247
@theworstcatholic7247 4 ай бұрын
@@jayne775 Which in the modern day lexicon by those who use it the most, the MG is just what men find aesthetically attractive. Voluptuous figure? MG. Form fitting clothing? MG. Anything that is appealing to the man? MG. It's absolutely about what 'men should find attractive' as they use the term as a form of slander and vehicle to insult them over wanting it or finding the things they like appealing. It's a social tool to demoralize and slander men for liking what they like and to try to cancel media that still caters to said half of the population. Which is also why they completely hypocritical about it, when men are painted in similar ways or when unattractive chicks are in similar get ups by they find it the look PC because of who it's on. Let's not play coy here. It's not hard to see what they are doing, and it's bad faith to say otherwise as it's done constantly.
@jibberism9910
@jibberism9910 4 ай бұрын
@@jayne775 No it's BS that asks violent rejection. Just like your lies.
@HarryToeface
@HarryToeface 4 ай бұрын
These people can't think of new original stories, so they take existing stories and change them to fit their own beliefs. It's actually pathetic. It shows a lack of talent right away.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
It's not just a lack of talent. It's a sign of malevolence and spite. Because, in their minds, they are taking away something that others enjoy and transmorgifying it into something that serves their interest.
@Filthee_casual
@Filthee_casual 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. No creativity and abhorrent attitude to the source material
@clutch8602
@clutch8602 4 ай бұрын
Evil can't create
@HarryToeface
@HarryToeface 4 ай бұрын
@@TheMaleRei what's funny about that is, even though they do this and crap all over the original comics, I don't care because to me the new ones aren't even part of the original story. So they basically don't exist to me.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
@@HarryToeface I don't disagree with your point. That being said, I have read comments where a person says that as much as they enjoyed and loved the OT of Star Wars, with the defilement of Disney - that they've just stopped caring about Star Wars and they don't watch the OT anymore... It does not affect you. But it *does* affect other people - for better and certainly for worse.
@munteryoshi
@munteryoshi 4 ай бұрын
They give clear reasons in the comics why Red Sonja is scantily clothed: She does it to gain an advantage in combat (against men) and to be able to be fast. I would not be surprised if the film makers have no idea. They often think a lack of knowledge of the lore is a virtue not a vice (which does not make sense to me unless you want to get bonus points for being uneducated and lazy).
@ExaltedDuck
@ExaltedDuck 4 ай бұрын
To borrow some words: An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head.
@benjaminthibieroz4155
@benjaminthibieroz4155 4 ай бұрын
Well, those excuses to not wear armor are totally absurd but I could accept it as a tone choice...
@Karthig1987
@Karthig1987 4 ай бұрын
Absurd with how she and Conan chop heads up with 1 handed swings at times and fight supernatural threats?
@jeremyherndon2974
@jeremyherndon2974 4 ай бұрын
So you didn't bother to read the full article as the director said she will ensure Sonja dons the chainmail binkie for the first time in cinema history? I believe the director who is a Trans female who took over for a Trans male said they want to remove all the identity politics from the movie so i have a bit of hope. To me saying that it is not for the male gaze means its not just a high budget smut film but a true story to tell. I hope I'm right and this is what they are going for if now well i shall eat mud!!
@Karthig1987
@Karthig1987 4 ай бұрын
@@jeremyherndon2974 let us hope you are right
@GenericProtagonist7
@GenericProtagonist7 4 ай бұрын
They keep saying they're "subverting my expectations" and then they produce more utter shit, which is exactly what I expected them to do.
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
Ikr? If I expect shit and they produce shit, they are merely fulfill my expectations.
@keiichi8191
@keiichi8191 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, at this point the only way to subvert my expectations would be to make something that's actually good and not infested with modern politics for a change.
@nautdead3197
@nautdead3197 4 ай бұрын
Subverting expectations by doing exactly what everyone thinks you're going to do
@theenigmaticmrwu
@theenigmaticmrwu 4 ай бұрын
They subvert expectations in the same way that fast food restaurants subvert the expectations set by their advertising.
@Faust_YT
@Faust_YT 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure their imaginary audience will be pleased.
@tabaflip
@tabaflip 4 ай бұрын
It'll get equally imaginary success haha!
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
Twitter. Twitter will be pleased.
@hawkeye5955
@hawkeye5955 4 ай бұрын
​@@tabaflip: A successful "social credit score" in exchange for financial debt.
@SolidShepard
@SolidShepard 4 ай бұрын
Nah. Even they will hate it.
@Filthee_casual
@Filthee_casual 4 ай бұрын
Lets cast jack black as Conan, Dylan Mulvaney as red sonja, and throw justin beiber in for a cameo why not.
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
And everyone needs to put fifty pounds on.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
Can we mobilize twitter to get Dylan Mulvaney as Red Sonja? That person would be perfect.
@notmousse
@notmousse 4 ай бұрын
Would be better than what we'll get.
@carltonbauheimer
@carltonbauheimer 4 ай бұрын
I'd honestly love a Jack Black parody of the sword and sorcery genre.
@AJax7886
@AJax7886 4 ай бұрын
How about Gorlock the Destroyer as Conan?
@AlexBrown230
@AlexBrown230 4 ай бұрын
If it's not for the male gaze there's no reason for me to watch it or give them any money. Enjoy.
@jayne775
@jayne775 4 ай бұрын
You do know the concept of the male gaze has nothing to do with women being pretty, sexy or looking any particular way? I mean, you're using the philosophical/aesthetic term 'the male gaze', so you you know what it is, right?
@eldritchedward
@eldritchedward 4 ай бұрын
@@jayne775 Yes, insane postmodern jibber-jabber. Deconstructing things may impress 12-year olds. Adults, not so much.
@THARG67
@THARG67 4 ай бұрын
More girls were annoyed in our Neverwinter alliance than guys when they removed the b00b slider!!!
@Filthee_casual
@Filthee_casual 4 ай бұрын
But to be fair, Bob sliders with chest physics are the king of character creation. A meh game cam be alright if you give me bouncy titties
@RosieTheProti
@RosieTheProti 4 ай бұрын
wait... when the fuq did they do that!?
@THARG67
@THARG67 4 ай бұрын
@@RosieTheProti long time ago now
@RosieTheProti
@RosieTheProti 4 ай бұрын
@@THARG67 I never knew that was a thing!!!
@trndrd
@trndrd 4 ай бұрын
A character literally made for the "male gaze", made popular and successful by the set gaze is getting a movie not for the "male gaze". Hmmmm, I wonder how this will turn out :D .
@boomeryang9635
@boomeryang9635 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if the studio will be surprised when no one watches it
@yetanotherspuart3993
@yetanotherspuart3993 4 ай бұрын
No they will put out article after article saying men bad.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 4 ай бұрын
they will pickachu face and then blame white men
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
Nope. Propaganda need not be directly profitable.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
Oh, certain executives will be surprised. People who keep themselves deliberately clueless about what the audience wants, and instead relies upon the nonsense and fools behind the successes of Oceans 8, the Charlie's Angels reboot, etc etc etc...
@cloud5buster
@cloud5buster 4 ай бұрын
We have reached the point where "subverting the trope" is the trope.
@hatmanbuilder
@hatmanbuilder 4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Just like "breaking the rules" is a rule.
@jacktheomnithere2127
@jacktheomnithere2127 4 ай бұрын
we already have, some time ago.
@lekanraposte6732
@lekanraposte6732 4 ай бұрын
The original from the 1980s is the only one that exist.
@kenabi
@kenabi 4 ай бұрын
there is no highlander 2.
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 4 ай бұрын
So basically the new Red Sonja is catering to nobody. I’d like to ask how they think it’s suppose to make money, but obviously I’ve given the whole making a profit concept far more thought then they have.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
Obviously, if they're virtuous enough, the profit will come.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 4 ай бұрын
I look forward to this movie bombing at the box office
@theworstcatholic7247
@theworstcatholic7247 4 ай бұрын
ESG money. It's easy money to get all funded by the richest old money there is. How do you think there are so many of these companies that do this regardless of the failure rate? It's because they're getting the money from somewhere else.
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 4 ай бұрын
@@theworstcatholic7247 Yes, but the problem with ESG money is that it’s given in the form of loans, and the only way to pay back the loans is to make a profit….
@cyric2010
@cyric2010 4 ай бұрын
Sydney Sweeney in Red Sonja bikini armor would be absolutely amazing, but not something Hollywood could handle. Maybe we can do it with a Sora video in a decade or two?
@JustTooDamnHonest
@JustTooDamnHonest 4 ай бұрын
Well Hollywood needs to find their nuts along with their common sense for it is going to return back to that time when Hollywood didn't care about appealing to everyone and they made bank every single time.
@dbsommers1
@dbsommers1 4 ай бұрын
Everyone feels drawn to her breasts. This isn't sexist since they are large enough to exert their own gravitational field. It's scientific.
@Cavalier1645
@Cavalier1645 4 ай бұрын
In another dimension we're she was Red Sonja, the company made a billion dollars.
@dimesonhiseyes9134
@dimesonhiseyes9134 4 ай бұрын
"A lot of people are very disgusting, you know who you are" I feel attacked
@nz7974
@nz7974 4 ай бұрын
Well if it avoids my gaze, then it also avoids my wallet.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
No., you bighat.
@TheVisualDigitalArts
@TheVisualDigitalArts 4 ай бұрын
These type of women took away bars from men , gyms, sports, and now games. These women are like the annoying little sister who tell on you for having any fun.
@FoxyCAMTV
@FoxyCAMTV 4 ай бұрын
Hate sustains them.
@jibberism9910
@jibberism9910 4 ай бұрын
@@FoxyCAMTV And a bit of hate should see their sorry ass right off. Let's stop crying and start acting.
@DodgyTodger
@DodgyTodger 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad there's computer games with choice and not overly restricted character builders to play as i don't watch tv anymore, except Reacher and invincible, that's about it this year.
@paralicular3927
@paralicular3927 4 ай бұрын
The endless cycle: "We will avoid the male gaze" (No male gazed at the show) *Surprised pikachu face* "Why didn't men watch the show?"
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 4 ай бұрын
Sounds done deliberately on purpose.
@hollyhockgod
@hollyhockgod 4 ай бұрын
Red Karen.
@tabaflip
@tabaflip 4 ай бұрын
Red Ma'am
@JackOBlades0801
@JackOBlades0801 4 ай бұрын
Bayonetta was a lot more criticized when the first one came out. Especially from the lines of Anita Sarkeesian.
@Filthee_casual
@Filthee_casual 4 ай бұрын
Bayonetta is a masterpiece of its time
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
Isn't that the one that just had a wedding themed birthday party?
@geremypolancoperez362
@geremypolancoperez362 4 ай бұрын
​@@funkydiscogod yes
@colmduggan8230
@colmduggan8230 4 ай бұрын
I think the term not made for the male gaze is apt because most men will not be watching the movie at all
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
I will gaze elsewhere.
@colmduggan8230
@colmduggan8230 4 ай бұрын
@@Joe-Przybranowski it's the only way forward
@antcow1239
@antcow1239 4 ай бұрын
So, at the start of Red Sonjas live, she was a farm girl living with her family. The local wicked queen showed up with her band of surly men and was smitten with her but was rejected. So, she ordered her whole family executed and her men to rape Sonja. They did and left her for dead, and she prayed for the power to get revenge, so a war goddess gave her the power and skill but cursed her to never lay with a man who can't beat her in a fair fight. And thats red Sonja's backstory.
@viperstriker4728
@viperstriker4728 4 ай бұрын
Wait, am I reading that right? The wicked queen was a lesbian in the original story? I have long noted how feminists seem to side with the evil queen type characters. If they make Sonjas a lesbian thus making her more like this wicked queen...
@antcow1239
@antcow1239 4 ай бұрын
@@viperstriker4728 Thats the jist of it, the original Red Sonja movie starts off with the whole rapafiffic scene too
@BouncingTribbles
@BouncingTribbles 4 ай бұрын
They had one job, making sure none of the original fans watch it.
@DerdOn0ner
@DerdOn0ner 4 ай бұрын
Red Sonja is the female version of Conan, heck they are in the same universe
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
O rly
@DerdOn0ner
@DerdOn0ner 4 ай бұрын
@@Joe-Przybranowski glad you did learn something 😬
@bruticus1496
@bruticus1496 4 ай бұрын
@@DerdOn0nerdon’t think they learned anything since they can’t even use full words
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 4 ай бұрын
Maybe in the comics she's never mentioned in the books
@DerdOn0ner
@DerdOn0ner 4 ай бұрын
@@RichardPhillips1066 she is, with a “y” instead of a “j” 🤫
@davesilkstone6912
@davesilkstone6912 4 ай бұрын
Watch Disparu's review of Damsel, entertaining as always
@AlexiusRedwood
@AlexiusRedwood 4 ай бұрын
The thing about Conan is that in the short stories he is always in armour . Not having clothes is a drawing and movie thing .
@WillOfTheHoneyBadger
@WillOfTheHoneyBadger 4 ай бұрын
Gina Carano as Red Sonja FTW!
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
With Jack black as 'conan the wuss'
@wavion2
@wavion2 4 ай бұрын
Have you seen Gina lately? I still like her as an actress and a person, but she wouldn't be good for Red Sonja. Better for a tank like character.
@Robert-ht7om
@Robert-ht7om 4 ай бұрын
Honestly they need to stop taking genres that are mostly dominanted by men and try to make them for women, looking back at a lot of movies that had "strong female characters" or all female cast in genres normally aimed at men they always fail at the box office or barley break even, in recent years Barbie is the only female led movie to succeed, but that wasn't trying to take a male genre and it came with a built-in fan base that's been building up for decades.
@dbsommers1
@dbsommers1 4 ай бұрын
It's not about bringing in women: it's about destroying what's for men to demoralize them.
@charlesmaurer6214
@charlesmaurer6214 4 ай бұрын
This is like trying to kill a market like Dylan and Bud. Sales will crash, will not even watch for free now. You would have to pay me twice a top lawyer makes for my time to watch. Thousand an hour perhaps.
@MsGhoulz
@MsGhoulz 4 ай бұрын
It's ok, you can give up Hollywood. I swear the withdrawal symptoms aren't even there.
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
I don't miss it.
@ASoberBear
@ASoberBear 4 ай бұрын
Lesbians: 🙄 Straight Men: 😑 Gay Woman: 🤤
@LEXX790
@LEXX790 4 ай бұрын
Going to wait for the parody for a faithful adaptation.
@gamerkingdom1442
@gamerkingdom1442 4 ай бұрын
Well, knew this was going to happen. Hollyweird being what it is, doing every movie for “everyone”, EXCEPT THE AUDIENCE. And it’ll be another woke disaster of a flop when it comes out!
@icarusjumped2719
@icarusjumped2719 4 ай бұрын
One more to add to the streak.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
@@icarusjumped2719 And that list is getting longer and longer and longer...
@icarusjumped2719
@icarusjumped2719 4 ай бұрын
@@TheMaleRei yup. Thankfully, the money will only last so long. Eventually they will run out of money and then it will stop. Another 3-5 years and then maybe we will get sexy women and competent men again. Until then however, we will see some of the WORST woke crap being thrown out. Its always darkest just before the dawn, and I would say its about 4am in the entertainment "worlds" right now.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
@@icarusjumped2719 TBH, my fear is that rather than getting $$$ from Blackrock etc - instead it will actually come from Central Banks. Money printer go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Of course the $$$ will go through enough hands to hide its true origins, but I fear that it will come to pass.
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
The 'modern audience '
@kpsk8031
@kpsk8031 4 ай бұрын
It's made for the modern audience - a group of 25 people in the Los Angeles area.
@infectio88
@infectio88 4 ай бұрын
Something somewhere must have gone terribly wrong for the people in charge of making movies and such to think "we're going to make it opposite of what the audience wants to see, i'm sure it will be a great success"
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
These directives are top down. Studios are being told to produce propaganda.
@stalhandske9649
@stalhandske9649 4 ай бұрын
@@Joe-Przybranowski Indeed it should be painfully obvious to anyone keeping an eye on the developments in Western entertainment circles that attracting audience revenue has not been a priority for some time now.
@kryptokeeper1422
@kryptokeeper1422 4 ай бұрын
I liked the movie, when I was kid! Beastmaster also!
@lekanraposte6732
@lekanraposte6732 4 ай бұрын
Might as well cast Jack Black as Conan the Barbarian.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
That could be funny. Waste of talent.
@theprincipalofficer_1
@theprincipalofficer_1 4 ай бұрын
May be they will hire bud light guy to play Sanja.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
That would be the perfect role for a person like "her". It would be a perfect tribute to "her" journey into womanhood to play a character like that.
@amfortas
@amfortas 4 ай бұрын
Then I shall not gaze at it. And neither will anyone else!
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 4 ай бұрын
I want to make a 007 movie, but without all that "secret agent" aspect. James Bond the ice cream vendor.
@isaacdyer6556
@isaacdyer6556 4 ай бұрын
Here are some prospective titles for that; "Diet another Day" "Sprinkle-Finger" "On Her Majesty's Royal Blizzard" (In reference to a treat sold by Dairy Queen).
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 4 ай бұрын
@@isaacdyer6556 "Moonscooper" "Nutty Royale" "licence to sell"
@carnackketral9904
@carnackketral9904 4 ай бұрын
Nathan, though I may be a degenerate, I am not disgusting. I am a cultured and dignified individual with taste and class.
@gio5854
@gio5854 4 ай бұрын
So when will they make a Connan remake with a Pewee looking guy to remove the female gaze?
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
Jack black as 'conan the wuss'
@rd8819
@rd8819 4 ай бұрын
Dead before it even arrives, that’s a new record.
@mrbigglezworth42
@mrbigglezworth42 4 ай бұрын
Red Sonja is another character who never actually appeared in the original works, but fit so well she was accepted as a part of the over-arching world. This movie is going to end up more like Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League.
@icarusjumped2719
@icarusjumped2719 4 ай бұрын
If she kills Conan, then yes. It will be the exact same deal.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
@@icarusjumped2719 She doesn't have to delete Conan - she just has to emasculate him, deconstruct him, etc etc etc...
@icarusjumped2719
@icarusjumped2719 4 ай бұрын
@@TheMaleRei sure, but there are many forms of "death".
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 4 ай бұрын
Original Red Sonja is a renaissance character. She was later appended to Con6an lore.
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 4 ай бұрын
I've read all the books shes not in them
@theeflatlander
@theeflatlander 4 ай бұрын
I had a tiny spark of hope that Red Sonja wouldn't be woke garbage. I can't wait for this "ruin everything fun" trend to end.
@Darkwintre
@Darkwintre 4 ай бұрын
Had they considered making her a tomboy just to subvert expectations properly?
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 4 ай бұрын
they hate tomboys with a passion as well, that's not gonna happen
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
They want tomboys to transition.
@keiichi8191
@keiichi8191 4 ай бұрын
Have you seen what constitutes a tomboy these days? When I was a kid, it just meant a girl who wore non-girly clothes, liked sports or other traditionally male hobbies, and wasn't afraid to get dirty outside. They could and often did have long-ish hair, and were still obviously feminine; the only differentiation was in dress and mannerism. Nowadays it just seems to mean "looking like Ruby Rose."
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 4 ай бұрын
@@Joe-Przybranowski it's getting so bad they are trying to transition the gheys too
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 4 ай бұрын
Looking for that sweet bankruptcy...
@rysarth6348
@rysarth6348 4 ай бұрын
How to say your movie will be a flop without saying your movie will be a flop.
@jaye1967
@jaye1967 4 ай бұрын
Who is it for? That's easy! People who won't watch it.
@cormoran2303
@cormoran2303 4 ай бұрын
It's going for that huge Madame Web audience, obviously! 😄
@charmawow
@charmawow 4 ай бұрын
If this film ever gets made, it`ll be interesting to see what the lead wears on the red carpet.
@brianjohnson1509
@brianjohnson1509 4 ай бұрын
Helped my mother make a dnd character, she's 65, 'how big can her boobs be' was one of her main questions during the process.
@AnalyticalReckoner
@AnalyticalReckoner 4 ай бұрын
It's for ESG and DEI, which means it's for money.
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 ай бұрын
Which means its for virtue points and social credit... In time the $$$ will come directly from the Central Banks - through two dozen hands (who each get their cut), and then pass it to movie / tv / game studios to continue the demoralization.
@Veteran_Spartan
@Veteran_Spartan 4 ай бұрын
And I won't cater my money to them. The problem solves itself.
@stephenfitzgerald9769
@stephenfitzgerald9769 4 ай бұрын
One of the important things about Sonja’s SA is that it was carried out ON THE ORDERS OF A WOMAN. From the beginning of the original film, they make it clear that the problem is not men; it’s evildoers, male and female. That’s one of the lessons that becomes part of her character growth.
@sharemation5339
@sharemation5339 4 ай бұрын
I always thought that Sonja was cursed with been undefeatable and unable to love someone unless that someone defeats her.
@Joe-Przybranowski
@Joe-Przybranowski 4 ай бұрын
HERETIC
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that is her blessing but at the same time a curse. She is independent and invincible, but also forever lonely because if she loves a man who has not defeated her in a fair fight, she will lose all her warrior powers. That is why she is a tragic, very complex character. Unfortunately, the authors of the film ignore all this, not understanding what kind of dramatic potential it has.
@kingwolf396
@kingwolf396 4 ай бұрын
Alienating your target audience seems to be a reoccurring theme with modern TV media. Paramount's Halo, Rings of Power, now Red Sonja.
@GenericProtagonist7
@GenericProtagonist7 4 ай бұрын
They will never understand no matter how many times you explain to them that fan service is not the same as literal pornography, they act like if a character has a panty shot or winks at the camera in a sensual way then everyone immediately cooms themselves into a comma, because they're addicts.
@thefervidactor8529
@thefervidactor8529 4 ай бұрын
Shad Bayonetta was one of the most criticized games back in the day especially by Anita with Feminist Frequency. It was only recently that the usual critics were silent and that was because they thought she was gay(she wasn’t, she has a lover and kid) and as such it was considered safe horny(not for the male gaze)
@WilliamScavengerFish
@WilliamScavengerFish 4 ай бұрын
If Red Sonya is supposed to be tough, why not a strong mma fighter? Like how Gina Carano was chosen for Haywire.
@williamdawson9338
@williamdawson9338 4 ай бұрын
Of all the characters, Red Sonja NEEDS the 'Male Gaze'. It's a TACTIC forcing her opponents (mostly men) to focus on her body and not on her sword.
@aeroprime3322
@aeroprime3322 4 ай бұрын
Then this is not a Red Sonja movie. It just has the Name Red Sonja slapped on it.
@MarkusBartus
@MarkusBartus 4 ай бұрын
Shad, I strongly recomend watching video on this topic on Midnight edge channel where he speculated on why this is the case. The conversation might be more nuaced.
@secretsquirrel726
@secretsquirrel726 4 ай бұрын
I've been itching to write a book about a scale mail female adventurer. I need to get some of the books to find the themes and energy.
@Xanderman
@Xanderman 4 ай бұрын
Ok I have now written it off my 'to watch' list.
@kendallvision
@kendallvision 4 ай бұрын
Would love to see Nathan get a speaking role in these.
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico 4 ай бұрын
The Marvels and Madame Web avoided the male gaze, too ... and any other kind of gaze, for that matter
@-o-dq7nd
@-o-dq7nd 4 ай бұрын
The Red Sonja film, is my daughters favorite movie of all time. She loves the character, and her books so much she wants to use the name Sonja for her future daughter. She absolutely loathes when a creator takes away Red Sonja's chain mail bikini look.
@list1726
@list1726 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting
@bokrugthewaterserpent3012
@bokrugthewaterserpent3012 4 ай бұрын
So if you are already a fan of Red Sonja, you will not go see this movie because it's not what you want. If you aren't already a fan, you won't go to see this movie because you don't care about Red Sonja. So who is it for?
@christopherlambert5264
@christopherlambert5264 4 ай бұрын
Wasn't Wendy Pini the defacto model for red Sonja? She was also the creator of Elf Quest.
@theflashhobbyist
@theflashhobbyist 4 ай бұрын
Haha they are removing the "male gaze" and thus removing one of the characters weapons... her character appears not only to harness the male gaze but also break the spirit and domesticate it... like having Conan without mussels.
@NeoN-PeoN
@NeoN-PeoN 4 ай бұрын
I never imagined there could be people THIS whiny.
@Barbaryotaku
@Barbaryotaku 4 ай бұрын
I don't hear complaints from women if Cavill is cast as Superman or has shirtless scenes in the Witcher. Male gaze on the other hand is bad.
@Cavalier1645
@Cavalier1645 4 ай бұрын
Welcome to modern feminism. Double standards and no responsibility. It's a joke.
@BennysGamingAttic
@BennysGamingAttic 4 ай бұрын
Red Sonja is skimpy and sexy. Conan is wearing a handkerchief basically and he's ripped as heck! It's both characters! She's not the only one that's skimpy
@DarknessProphet
@DarknessProphet 4 ай бұрын
Shad: "[Bayonetta's] clothes are made out of her hair." And I still have nightmare imagery because of that. In the second game she has a really short hairdo that doesn't always touch her clothing. WHAT HAIR DOES HER CLOTHING CONSIST OF?!
@SG-js2qn
@SG-js2qn 4 ай бұрын
It's for ESG investors, who apparently don't mind losing all their money. The producers of the woke content are making big bags of money, and they aren't being held accountable for producing a quality product. It's a direct transfer of funds from investor to producer that doesn't really need a released film or an audience. As with, say, the Batgirl film. It's like buying one of Hunter Biden's paintings, except you are getting zero return on your investment from Joe, and you're doing it to destroy the art market by spending wads on garbage.
@FFFFPPPP
@FFFFPPPP 4 ай бұрын
In the action figure world there was a RS figure released sometime last year by Loose Collector. There’s another one coming out in the future by Boss Fight Studios. They both cater to the male gaze. The Loose Collector version is part of a larger line that is made up of female comic characters that are all about the gaze including one that can be converted to a topless version (bec she appears that way at times). That line would give these anti-gaze types a heart attack or cause them to stroke out.
@Beardshire
@Beardshire 4 ай бұрын
But... Red Sonja's entire story is that she is super hot and people underestimate her natural skill in combat. That's the story...
@BLRodgers
@BLRodgers 4 ай бұрын
"Fan disservice" seems to be the modus operandi of the "current year" entertainment industry. Media Moron Exec: "How do you think the established fan base will feel about us making these changes in [insert any long-established IP here]?" Only Sensible Person in the Room: "They are 100% going to hate it, and I think..." Media Moron Exec, interrupting: "Perfect! We move forward with those changes then!"
@BluegrassKnight
@BluegrassKnight 4 ай бұрын
As a member of the "Ginger" community, I'm tired of the race swapping and in particular the swapping of red-headed characters, red-heads are being completely removed from all forms of media and it needs to be stopped, many of these characters are core to their stories and are just not the same otherwise!
@mayam.3240
@mayam.3240 4 ай бұрын
I see a clear tendency with most of my female friends. No just that that the absolute majority dresses their characters way more revealing than most guys(so do i ;) ), but also the more shy they are in real life the more revealing they make their characters in games. They adore underwear-like armor, underboob and all kind of very revealing side cuts. Also I see a similar effect on the girls like on guys wanting to work out when they see a muscular character. Often I saw very shy girls with low confidence in their looks express themself first through their revealing characters and then dared to try less baggy clothes. And no, none of them suddenly became "cheap". The girls who dress "too revealing" in real life are usually not the one's enjoying games. Well, I don't know how representative my experience is, but I kept noticing it through my life. Also on myself I think.🤔
@andrewteichroeb8886
@andrewteichroeb8886 4 ай бұрын
I've never wanted to indulge myself in the original Red Sonja comics more than I do now.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 4 ай бұрын
Great video, guys...👍
@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r
@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r 4 ай бұрын
It's not that they hate money. They hate you more than they love money.
@takarahayashi4124
@takarahayashi4124 4 ай бұрын
I looked up that chick they casted for Red Sonja... and that is not Red Sonja... she looks more like Red Sonja's little brother.
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 4 ай бұрын
Yes, total miscast.
@Chodaboy65
@Chodaboy65 4 ай бұрын
Another female-led action movie where they cast a relatively small model-actress instead of a larger stunt woman or body-builder. Lutz is listed at 5'6" and 56kg (~125 lbs). Swords are going to look massive in her hands.
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 4 ай бұрын
Yes, Matilda is total miscast and her sword look like a toy.
@MrNitrox91
@MrNitrox91 4 ай бұрын
Chad, it's never too late to get in shape! Do it!
@sanshinobi3664
@sanshinobi3664 4 ай бұрын
My one problem with this line of argument is that gives credence to the false' premise that guys only care for Red Sonja as spank bank material.
@zaphodthenth
@zaphodthenth 4 ай бұрын
With all of the changes they're making with their movie, this ISN'T going to be the character of " Red Sonya" but a " Red Sonya in name only"
@Unknown-sz8kg
@Unknown-sz8kg 4 ай бұрын
How many feminists do you need to wash a car? Two, one to hold the sponge and one to drive the car back and forth.
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