Good thing you pointed out their strengths and weaknesses. Valid points for me. And it did not look like a hate vid so you're doing just fine

I feel like Seulgi is a very underrated dancer in the industry, people only talk about lisa and Momo and seem to forget about her...

I laughed when I saw Seulgi's weaknesses, flexibility (remembered her split) and clumsiest (well that'll be our Seulbear)

I think one thing to consider for Joy are the dresses the stylist puts her in. The stylist puts her in extremely short and tight dresses and they seem very uncomfortable and hard to move in.

i feel so happy to find someone who appreciates Wendy's dancing

Idk why people always shit on Wendy’s dancing. Tbh her moves always look so clean to me, she never under-does any move or half ass it, and her facial expressions/stage presence is always the best and consistent imo

Irene: Elegant Seulgi: Smooth Wendy: Swag Joy: Sexy Yeri: Cute

This video makes me so happy cause I felt like no one noticed Wendy’s improvement within the past year. I feel like she is sometimes over shadowed by the other members which makes me sad Bc she is so talented

Finally someone who didn’t rank Wendy last 🤩🤩🤩

i think one of the major things when it comes to yeri's dancing is confidence, she was criticised so heavily from debut and went through a lot 2017-18 and i think it really affected her confidence and consequently her stage presence

FINALLY someone out here appreciating Wendy's dance skills and particularly her amazing stage presence, I love that clip of her freestyle as I've seen it before but I don't think many people have - she's amazing!~

Can we also mention that Joy is several inches taller than every member in her group. That makes it significantly harder to match the movements of the members who have shorter limbs and are more matched in proportions to her. Its harder for her naturally, regardless of skill. I also don't think she is given the best outfits to dance in, which dont help

As always, I completely agree. I was so happy to see someone else pick up on how huge Wendy's improvements have been

Also I’m glad my multi-talented baby Wendy is finally getting recognition for her dancing

Finally some agrees with me the Wendy is the 3rd best dancer and lowkey is a center

I almost completely agree with your ranking. I'm so glad Wendy is appreciated because she's actually one of the best dancers in rv. I would switch yeri and joy tho (Joy is more energetic and has better facial expressions on stage), but that's just my opinion :) Great Video!

Make the same video but with gfriend & dreamcatcher

can you do one but with g idle?

Finally someone who doesn't rank Wendy last!!

Finally who think that Wendy isn't rank in fifth. I'm happy for this

Can you do one with the best female dancers of the 3rd gen like Momo, Chungha, Lisa, Chaeyeon, Seungyeon from Clc (underrated)? That would be interesting

i really like your ranking videos! do you think you can do an ITZY dance ranking video? i think that'd be really interesting since ITZY has amazing dancers! ^_^

I’m so proud of Wendy!!!!! She is my favorite member and I always thought that she was a good dancer but I’ve seen so many dance rankings over Twice, BP, and RV and she was always last in every ranking... so since I have no experience in dancing so I don’t know what’s good dancing and what’s not good dancing.

wendy has so much stage presence it's crazy. I love her fancams and she always looks so happy to be on stage :)

As a dancer for over 19 years, I'll just give my own opinion. Seulgi is my favorite dancer and she actually helped teach Joy to dance as a trainee. Joy is also one of the most consistently in sync with Seulgi which is a massive pro and indicative of dance ability and co-ordination of rhythm, something that wasn't mentioned in the video. I actually would say Joy has a natural ability and sense of rhythm, but with the shortest trainee period she was less developed at debut. She’s definitely improved a lot since then, which has been demonstrated by her recent Psycho performance on Handsome Tigers (wearing comfortable pants) and with her Tango solo dance. Joy is usually given tight short dresses to dance in, but when she gets to dance in appropriate outfits she can really show her fluidity and clean dance lines (see also Sunny Side Up! and Bing Bing fancams). Joy’s biggest weakness is her stamina, and knowing that she has underlying health issues it’s clearer to see why she sometimes doesn’t hit moves as hard, but it should be stated that this is separate to actual dance ability. Also with her taller height, she is more careful to match the other members, something she actually does consistently well making her movements more refined. Joy's actually only 167cm, her height doesn't affect her ability as a dancer in general, it simply means that in the group she has to alter her movements to ensure she matches the formation (which she does). After watching things like Joy dancing in the streets of San Francisco and her flamenco performance in Seville, it's obvious that Joy can freestyle and that she does indeed have a natural sense of rhythm. I think Joy’s a better dancer than she’s given credit for and her fancams are always some of my favorite to watch (Joy's Zimzalabim Facecam remains the most viewed Female Idol Facecam on SBS's KZfaq channel). I'd also recommend people watch the group Sunny Side Up fancam from Inkigayo which especially shows Joy's dancing ability. The Power Up fancam used for Joy in this video is from 2018 and was from a period of time we now know Joy was suffering from health issues and I don't think the style of Power Up choreo is at all reflective of her full abilities. I'd personally have compared all the members using the same set of fancams eg: either Zimzalabim or Umpah Umpah era fancams. I also think it's important to clarify that Joy wasn't "heavily criticized" at all during Power Up, it was a singular comment from a forum. Joy's actually been consistently praised for her stage presence and dancing over many years by Korean fans, it's really never been an issue for her. Anyway I think Red Velvet are such an amazing group, all with their own strengths, and I hope all the members will be reunited soon on stage.

Can you do one for Itzy?

wendy should be the number one. she is one of the SM5 😂

my list would be 1: seulgi 2: irene/wendy 3: joy 4: yeri

My ranking would be: 1. Seulgi 2. Irene 3. Joy 4. Wendy 5. Yeri As a dancer myself some of the critiques in the video made sense, but others seem misattributed and incorrect. I think everyone can agree that Seulgi really is meant to be a main dancer. Irene has great training over many years but I agree she can lack a spark and power (however she has great dance ability). Joy actually does have a good sense of rhythm and is consistently in sync, and although she can lack power she does have good dance ability. Also Joy doesn't over-dance, that's really clear to me. Wendy does put power into moves but can be off beat with the group because of over-dancing (her energy is great and I think she can dance but it can also look like she's performing a zumba routine), and when Yeri puts in effort she also can put in power but she's often off the beat making her moves look more awkward (Yeri suits certain types of choreo). As a dancer I think having a solid grasp of the basics whilst being in formation and in sync with the music is primary, especially if you're in a group. Having more energy or power into moves doesn't equal better dance ability. That's why even though Wendy has more energy, Irene is still a better dancer etc.

my opinion: 1. Seulgi 2. Irene 3. Joy 4. Wendy 5. Yeri diclaimer: I am also a dancer myself but my rank was based on how well the steps are executed in every performances i watched and how pleasing their body looks when they move with the rhythm.

I feel like Joy looks amazing on stage when she's having fun and that's when she truly shines as an idol-dancer and her fancies turn out great, throughout 2018 I don't think she enjoyed herself performing. Overall, I love 2019 Joy and hopefully she'll continue being amazing!!!

I completely agree with your ranking. I think Wendy's dancing is really underrated. The only thing I would change: I'd put Joy 4th and Yeri 5th. Despite being in the same level as technique, I think that Joy overall has a better aura (except for that no stage presence phase in 2018) and I think that the basics of dancing are also quite useful and important. I'm also an ex-dancer myself (10 years) but you probably have more experience than me and probably even started dancing before me, so I completely respect your opinion. Edit: I watched more fancams and I don't know who to put 5th and who 4th. Yeri has sharper movements and put much details in her dancing, and her stage presence has improved, but she sometimes under-dances. Joy, on the other side, I think has better stage presence, and she also pays attention to details and basics of dancing. But her moves are sometimes short-cutting and her height makes her over-dance to not look stiff. As of now, I'll probably tie Yeri and Joy.

i totally agree with this ranking and in addition, i`d say that irene sometimes dancing like she`s afraid of moving, especially in umpah umpah. like very carefully

Joy is an awesome dancer, I think she should be ranked 3rd

it's not always about the dancing technique, if someone clearly looks like they're enjoying their craft it's amazing to watch. In RV that's Seulgi, Wendy and Joy for me: they're almost always smiling and looking like they have fun. Irene has good/bad days, Yeri was... not good in 2018 but she's been looking much better on stage this year. That makes a lot of difference tbh.

seulgi is definitely a top dancer, no doubt about that at all. irene dances so smoothly and feminine-like. my baby joy always seems like she's trying to preserve her stamina and energy in her dances (since she las low stamina), so she ends up doing less and providing less energy, but still nailing the details. wendy's dance is so powerful imo zimzalabim wendy is the best thing that has ever happened. as for yeri, sometimes she's really good, but she always misses the details in her dances, for example hand movements, leg positions/angles etc and sometimes she seems like she has a hard time coordinating her movements to the way she wants them to be? but she was really good in umpah umpah.

I was not expecting this. I'm proud of you Wendy 💙💙

As of 2020, Irene and Seulgi have debuted as a subunit and let me tell you, Irene's facials and stage presence have skyrocketed. She seems much more confident, and her newer performances of Psycho, Monster and Naughty? STUNNING.

for me its: 1. seulgi 2.joy/irene 3.wendy 4.yeri

I agree that wendy and seulgi are the most consistent

My rank 5.- Yeri 4.- Wendy 3.-Joy 2.-Irene 1.- Seulgi

I already knew seulgi will be first but wendy finally is not last!!!

I feel like Joy would be much more appreciated if she always didnt have to dance in short dresses. I saw this clip where she wore a jumpsuit instead of a dress and she danced so much better. But i love your videos. Youre always so fair ❤

My Opinion: 1.of course,Seulgi..lolxxx 2.Irene 3.Joy 4.Wendy 5.Yeri

Could you please rank soloist in kpop? Like make a ranking with Chungha, Somi, Sunmi, Hyolyn, etc. Edit: maybe also ranking a lot of main dancers

Thank you for this! Wendy’s the recognition she needs! 💖💕

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UNBIASED WENDY RANKING 😭❤

I think one of the reasons why joy is ranked lower, is because their stylists don´t have empathy with her, and always give her ridiculous tight and short clothes, that makes her so discomfortable she is already taller than the other members and her legs are so much longer, i always realize how tensed she is at their performances, so she losts her naturally at dancing, but i think that even with that she is still have really poweful movements and in the term of stage presence and facial expressions, her pocket is full of that, because of her amazing acting skills , she always makes me so impressed at her stage presence and her facial expressions, she can give all of her to get in the concept perfectly, she transforms into the characther easily, that´s what I most like about her on the stage, have you all seen her in the peek a boo era? She could make everyone think that she is not joy when performing, it looked like she was that characther from the peek a boo history at the hole time.

In my opinion.. 1 Irene 1 Seulgi 1 Wendy 1 Joy 1 Yeri 1 Red Velvet 1 Red 1 Velvet 1 Red & Velvet 1 Red Velvet Concept 1 Real Vocal 1 Real Dancer 1 Real Visual 1 Real Charismatic 1 Real Body Goals 1 Live Vocal 1 Underrated but popular 1 Get hates but they dont even care 1 All of them r such a baby even their age were.... 2 Please Sm dont waste Red Velvet time!!!

yaaaas main vocals Wendy & jihyo are rising as potential lead dancers ahahahaha but on a more serious note, it’s so satisfying to see how far their efforts have brought them👍 it’s no secret that main vocals are usually on the weaker side of dancing (hence their focus on vocals) but seeing how seungwan and jihyo slowly rising to the top through their effort and hard work makes me so proud 🥺😭❤️

I respect your opinion, and it's good that you motivate although I think a bit of it is misdirected. I'm also a dancer and I'd agree to disagree with the last three. 1. Joy. To put her last because of a 'disadvantage' she can't control (her length) I think is weird, and I relate cause I'm also quite tall. It should actually be a merit to her that she looks just as good, because she's overcome a hindrance in her length. Her stage charisma (I would even put it past Irene) and body control is still better than the others', and if anything I think she underdances at times not overdances. I have personally seen no one complain about her stage presence as a Reveluv of 4 years. She's also more versatile as a dancer and performer; whereas Yeri suits 'Velvet' more and Wendy 'Red', Joy can execute both well. I suggest you rewatch Bad Boy and Dumb Dumb first stages back to back. 2. Wendy. She's had enormous improvement which is why she's climbed from last. Her exuberance is really good during 'Red' performances but somewhat exaggerated, same with her dancing. She's still stiff in places and overdances which makes her look awkward, and that kind of proofs she lacks in body control for me, even if she has okay freestyle and is most athletic (but these things don't necessarily equate to better dancer). 3. Yeri. Unlike Wendy she had more of a natural feel for dancing and has potential, but hasn't done anything with it. She still lacks charisma and has remained quite the same, stagnant, since 2015. In their earlier stages she's even been out of rhytm with the rest (it's easy to miss, but it's like half a beat ahead). If we talk about shortcutting, I actually think she does it just as much as Joy.

5.yeri 4. Irene 3. Wendy 2. Joy 1. Seulgi

My ranking is probably the same as yours.. Only I would put Yeri as last.. She underdances a lot.. giving the expression of boredom.. While Joy's dancing just looks fun in upbeat dances and she can also be sensual Wendy,uwu I love her energy and facial expressions Irene, her flexibility gives her an advantage,her dancing is pleasing to the eyes. And.lastly Seulgi. ,She can adapt to any dance I think,. She is really an allrounder

my ranking: 1- seulgi 2- wendy 3- irene 4- joy 5- yeri

In terms of freestyle, i honestly think confidence also matters A LOT ... wendy has always been so confident to do things and just let herself go ... while yeri and irene, they are so shy and i think that is really a hindrance for them to do a freestyle ... they can but they are too reluctant or shy to do it ... so for freestyle matter, i think it can only be judged if all members really go off 100% and do their best ... irene and yeri obviously just lightly do it without any intention to really do it cause of the embarassment 😅😅

Wendy keeps improving!!!

i'm glad that wendy isn't last. i like her free-style dance sm!

For me 1. Seulgi❤ 2. Irene(bias)❤ 3. Joy❤ 4. Wendy❤ 5. Yeri(bias wrecker Sorry)❤

Mine is 1. Seulgi 2. Irene 3. Joy 4. Wendy 5. Yeri Even though Yeri is my bias wrecker, I can say she is a little bit stiff.

I'm so happy that you recognized Wendy's dancing, and that you used non - biased statements. I really enjoyed the ranking!

OMG THE RANKING IS EXACTLY HOW I IMAGINED IN MY HEAAAD

As a dancer myself I have to agree with the majority of what you said. However, when it came to Joy and Yeri, I would disagree. Joy although not a particular great dancer has the ability to draw you in with her moves which is great considering she is an idol. Her moves are neat and well done. Zimzalabim was a great era for her when it came to the dance. Yeri on the other hand always me me uncomfortable when I see her dancing, maybe it’s her lack of confidence but who knows. She’s also is very stiff with her moves and sometimes she’s too fast with her dances and the group doesn’t seem in sync because of it. I think both girls could still improve if given the right time and for them to find their own personal style. Anyways, thank you for sharing your opinion. I have to agree with everything said with Wendy, Irene and Seulgi.

I think using fancams from the recent Umpah Umpah stages would have been better.

Look, no hate on any of the girls like at all, because I love them all, seriously. But for me is 1. Seulgi 2. Irene 3. Joy 4. Wendy 5. Yeri Seulgi we all know she is excellent at dancing hiphop, popping, sexy style, etc. Great muscle control, great charisma, stage presence, good isolations. Irene is also a good dancer for kpop industry, great body work, she doesn’t over dance, but sometimes she tends to under dance, but only sometimes. She has great potential. Now, I have hear about the long limbs of Joy... Like, dude that doesn’t matter at all, seriously. Even tho she only was a trainee for 2-3 years, and was not into dancing, she is pretty great. Especially in sexy style, she does great at their choreography and is good at freestyle. Also, great charisma for me, good muscle control. I have never seen over dancing or under dancing tbh, she is average in a good way. Given tho her health issues that we heard about. Wendy has improved. Her freestyle is great, good sense of rhythm. Stage presence on point. But yeah she sometimes over dances, that’s normal. And Yeri, she is really average to me. Sometimes I feel like she needs to move her body more, work on isolation. More smooth in her movements. But she has improved, we all have seen it. She looks great in stage with her beauty and keeps up. But I feel like she under dances to much. That’s my big opinion.

someone FINALLY giving wendy the credit she deserves😭😭 she’s improved so much and is a great idol dancer and performer

Just here to say that wendy, our main vocalist, improved so much on her dancing skills.

I'm so happy that Wendy wasn't ranked last, because I always thought her dancing was consistent and I was always mad that proper always ranked her last [I've been with them since Red Flavour Era] thank you so much! And also love how you explain your rankings

for me at least ; psycho boosted them all so much but wendy and joy's dancing seemed so much more iconic! 💙⋄⋆⋄💚

wendy has the best facials glad you brought it up

5. Joy/ Wendy/ Yeri 4. Joy/ Wendy/ Yeri 3. Joy/ Wendy/ Yeri 2. Irene 1. Seulgi I really don’t know how to rank the last 3 they all had weaknesses but aren’t bad dancers either so

1. Seulgi 2. Irene 3. Joy 4. Wendy 5. Yeri

Your rankings are always my favorites,not biased,just facts! And I'm 20000% agree with this ranking

Wendy in 3rd place... wow finally someone notice her improvement 💙💙 ... Love your video... ❤️

Yes wendy improved soooo muuch. She's amazing performer. And the fact she's still stable hitting her high notes 💯

this video was so in-depth, and as a dancer too (not as long as u but), i one-hundred percent agree with all your points!! your ranking was well-chosen :)

yesssss, i always thought wendy was a good dancer! she has improved so much and im proud of her

Agreed o.o I'm so proud of how Wendy improved in fact. I hadn't seen that freestyle video of her, wow OWO

wendy so deserves her #3 spot. i would have put as 2, but just because i put a lot more emphasis on stage presence when i rate dancing. i also don't have very much dance knowledge lol. when you take her technique and other dance stuff i have no info on into account i can completely agree with #3 for wendy. personally i would rank them like this 1. seulgi (if anyone ever says she's not number one they're crazy, like have you seen her dance ??) 2. wendy (her stage presence is amazing and she always looks like she's giving every performance her all) 3. joy (her stage presence has really improved these past couple of cbs, and she is really starting to shine a lot more) 4. irene (when she's in the zone her stage presence is stunning, but she's so inconsistent you can't count on that) 5. yeri (i feel like after she debuted she kind of flat lined with stage presence. if she kept up the energy she'd be so much better) obviously my ranking is based mostly on stage presence, so whatever lol

I think 5. Yeri 4. Irene 3. Joy 2. Wendy 1. Seulgi I love them all, but I think Red Velvet is more of a vocal-based group, so hard choreographies and dancing abilities don't really matter, they all are good idol-dancers to me in that case.

That's the most honest video i saw on the internet about red velvet's dance and yes you're right about wendy, she has a potential for free style more than a lot of dancers in the kpop industry

Glad to see people are finally realising how well Wendy dances. she exudes so much energy, and her moves are mostly always clean. Also her technique isn’t top, she has improved A LOT and i’m so proud of her

*Do for more girl groups,boy groups, and solists. *Do you Think chungha is the Best dancer in kpop?!?

yeah i agree with all of this. wendy’s dancing is just really entertaining

I honestly can't rank if Joy or Yeri is last, but I agree with Wendy Irene and Seulgi's ranking completely.

The actual ranking atm would be: 1. Seulgi 2. Wendy 3. Joy 4. Irene 5. Yeri

Have you seen Joy's freestyle? She's really good

i totally agree with u about wendy!!!! i’m literally trying to tell everyone that!!! she wasn’t that good before but now,,,, she’s amazing seriously!!

I like your Dance Ranking but i think joy is the better dancer than yeri My opinion joy is 3rd or 4th in dance Ranking but no 5th My dance ranking is 1.seulgi 2.irene 3.joy/wendy 4.joy/wendy 5.yeri I think joy and wendy are same in dance (i'm not a dancer this just my opinion )

My dance raking: 1) Seulgi 2) Irene 3) Wendy 4) Joy 5) Yeri

I totally agree. This is such a unbiased video! Love it! 😀

The wendy picture she looks good with long hair and short all memebers do

I agree with your list but I don’t know whether to switch Yeri and Wendy or Joy and Yeri cause to be honest they all seem pretty even but one does something better than the other. Thankfully Yeri is gaining confidence and getting better and Joy is starting to have charisma like Wendy and Seulgi😊

I'd swap Yeri and Joy. Also the first time they appeared in Weekly Idol (OT4 era) and had a freestyle dance, Joy did some body rolls and it was sooo smooth! (Lives rent free in my mind) Anyways, I love how you mentioned that Seulgi & Wendy are consistent performers 😊 Yaass! They always give their all, I don't see them showing signs of tiredness in any performances. (I'm not hating on the other members! We all have our ways in handling fatigue)

I don't know why you used power up stage for Joy which was a weak era for her while using stages of strong era for other members. She was amazing in zzb and umpah umpah and rbb. Even her fancams are the most watched in zzb thanks to her strong stage presence and dancing. I think it's not fair to show a weak era for Joy and strong era for the other members

i 100% agree with your ranking. i was always wondering why wendy was at the bottom of the list for many people. she has amazing presence and her dance moves are really good. she always has fun on stage but everyone seemed to ignore that. finally someone who gets me!

Im so happy for Wendys improvement. she also had to make up her skills from scratch.

I agree. Seulgi and Wendy have powerful moves 💜

Even before starting, I knew either Seulgi or Irene would be no. 1. Until now, I didn’t even know they were the main and lead dancers but it makes sense hahaha

Thank you for not shitting on Wendy's abilities!!! She's my bias but even I myself would rank her 3rd because she can sometimes overdo moves (such as the ZZB chorus dance where they move their arms and legs to the front and back or the RBB part before the last chorus where everyone breaks their backs lmao (EDIT: oh and we don't talk about the Rookie chorus... my girl always breaks every bone in her body during that one particular move)) and I think if she could tone it down just a liiiittle bit it'd look even cleaner and people would stop saying she's lacking skills. Overall, your criticism is very valid and I loved this video. People who are actually pissed can't accept the fact that their favs aren't perfect I guess...? 🤷🏻‍♀️

When I started to like red velvet I knew zimzalabim and Wendy's my bias but people always ranked her last so I didnt wanna learn from her but now imma learn cause of this.