REDACTED: Deltarune's Forgotten Mystery

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omegawott

omegawott

Жыл бұрын

Undertale is seven years old today, yet the story of this unusual anomaly is still virtually unknown. So today, let's take a look at the fittingly forgotten mystery of [REDACTED]
Thanks to Boernaut for allowing me to use their incredible Gaster Theme cover: • Undertale | W. D. Gast...
Thanks to OceanBagel for their Horse Stable Entity footage: • Unused stable object i...
Thanks to Faxz for REDACTED footage:
• Undertale - room_water...
Thanks to Multiplo for the developer test room footage: • Video
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All music taken from Undertale/Deltarune.
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@ninjajack6457
@ninjajack6457 Жыл бұрын
Omega: “I am not trying to be Spamton!” Also Omega: uploaded Spamton voice acting as their first video
@GuyMotion
@GuyMotion Жыл бұрын
no no, he got a point
@omegawott
@omegawott Жыл бұрын
touchè
@bitchassmoththing
@bitchassmoththing Жыл бұрын
@@omegawott cope.
@p.e.r.f.e.c.t4988
@p.e.r.f.e.c.t4988 Жыл бұрын
@@omegawott bru
@jihadbazzi7509
@jihadbazzi7509 Жыл бұрын
@@omegawott 😳📸
@zeo4481
@zeo4481 Жыл бұрын
_"_water_"_ holds so much significance over Deltarune you wouldn't even believe. From secret Gaster chairs ,to the old song coming from the sea,to Shiren, to the sinks in the hospital,to the song that plays when falling into the dark world and to the sound that plays after you reboot Undertale after finishing Genocide.
@user-jb9nz2fs2u
@user-jb9nz2fs2u Жыл бұрын
what
@BizarreCrow
@BizarreCrow Жыл бұрын
Yeah I know! I immediately thought about this sorta stuff when he mentioned the room is called water.
@helo6824
@helo6824 Жыл бұрын
this water stuff sounds dangerous, jeez
@leedlelel2373
@leedlelel2373 Жыл бұрын
The sound after genocide is actually wind, called "black_wind" Not the ocean
@nmtltlz
@nmtltlz Жыл бұрын
I think toby is intentionally creating ties between darkness and water
@omegawott
@omegawott Жыл бұрын
Hey, just a quick note: the character representing Redacted at the end isn't meant to be Dess! It was just meant to be a stand-in that resembles Redacted's OG sprite. But one could 100% interpret Redacted as being Dess, so the resemblance could fit, I'd say. ALSO my pronouns are they/them, a ton of comments have gotten that mixed up so here y'go. Thanks for watching!!!
@demonx7130
@demonx7130 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s just Gaster but their sprites was overlayed to the bottom and it look like that
@Zyxdee
@Zyxdee Жыл бұрын
But isn't Dess like, from deltarune, and gaster from undertale? I mean I guess it could have all gotten mixed up if the games are more connected than they appear to be but - wait a second.. I was about ask why in the world would gaster's "creation" be in deltarune world, but - the bunker. Maybe?
@xxcloudcuckoolanderxx
@xxcloudcuckoolanderxx Жыл бұрын
@@Zyxdee undertale and deltarune are heavily implied to be connected in some way (aside from that deltarune is basically a canon au), through gaster (the gaster's theme music leitmotif is literally everywhere)
@averagegenzguy2751
@averagegenzguy2751 Жыл бұрын
@@xxcloudcuckoolanderxx the room is called room_water_redacted Water... oceans Ocean.ogg playing at the beginning of Deltarune when Kris falls into the Dark world Ocean.ogg plays in the Spamton Sweepstakes while a chair glitches out Onion San mentions a “song coming from the sea”, that he THINKS he has heard before There’s a lot more stuff about Water Horse stable with redacted in it? Knight chess pieces Redacted only seems to come into existence when you fish a key out of a trash can Strangest part about this is, redacted existed ever since Undertale got released, they weren’t added later These motifs of Water and Oceans (oh yeah also Clam Girl) seem to have been planned for a very long time. Toby said he was thinking about Deltarune’s concept even before Undertale so...
@axo3940
@axo3940 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that [redacted] is dess, how they got shattered across time and space in deltarune is a question that has yet to be answered (fell into a dark fountain, or something in the bunker, perhaps?), but the way I see it, when dess was shatter they could have been split into two pieces: physical form and the mind. The physical form is [redacted], although some growth or something most certainly occurred to change their appearance. Additionally, [redacted] is only a hollow shell, slumped over, and unable to say anything. The lines "redacted" and "x" make it seem like [redacted]'s lines are just placeholder put in place by gaster (thus the wingdings). As for the mind, that would be the voice that we see hidden in the code of deltarune. With no physical form or representation, dess is only able to exist as text in deltarune.
@mcemily17
@mcemily17 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Spamton for the amazing video
@Zyxdee
@Zyxdee Жыл бұрын
Woah, I did not expect this! As a huge deltarune fan myself, I've barely heard of any theories or acknowledgement regarding "REDACTED". It's quite surprising how overlooked this mystery is and definitively needs more search put into it!
@Zyxdee
@Zyxdee Жыл бұрын
Specially the thing about the stable horse. I'd never seen it before! Also, the sprite to me looks more like a Gaster sprite, with some white thing covering it.
@maple...
@maple... Жыл бұрын
@@Zyxdee i think the horse stable event is a more recent discovery. i havent heard about it before either until around the beginning of september
@dr.reflex123
@dr.reflex123 Жыл бұрын
🖂︎ ☯︎❒︎♏︎♎︎♋︎♍︎⧫︎♏︎♎︎☸︎
@CattailCactus3094
@CattailCactus3094 10 ай бұрын
​@@dr.reflex123 Guys this says [redacted]
@dr.reflex123
@dr.reflex123 10 ай бұрын
@@CattailCactus3094 lol
@chromium988
@chromium988 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Okay after watching the video and seeing that stable part again... I just realized something... I thought it was weird [Redacted] only said * X once she appears inside it... but then I realized that you had a choice to go in the stables or not before she popped up. Once she does it becomes locked out now. I thought it was weird it would stop at that point... but then it hit me. The X key is also the button you use to cancel or exit out of something in game. When I realized that, it finally clicked. [Redacted] isn't saying X because the event isn't complete... she's using the actual X button to keep us from exploring the stables any further. She does not want us to explore her mystery any further...!
@VoidCraftGaming
@VoidCraftGaming Жыл бұрын
Nice theory!
@leedlelel2373
@leedlelel2373 Жыл бұрын
DemonX X-slash X is a greek symbol too like the delta The "Chi" Meaning "life force" Theres something going on
@unKnOun2_0wnk
@unKnOun2_0wnk 11 ай бұрын
Oh wow... I haven't thought about it that way...
@powerofthec5908
@powerofthec5908 Жыл бұрын
Something interesting about redacted is the fact they're found in a stable, something you usually find horses in. And what takes the form of a horse? The chess figure of the knight.
@cawareyoudoin7379
@cawareyoudoin7379 Жыл бұрын
This video is so nostalgic in many ways. The speculations about Gaster were a staple of the Undertale fandom, even when it just came out. I've seen the redacted entity, although the two items you can interact with are new. What this doesn't explain is why this hypothetic other person would also speak in Windings. The consensus on W.D.Gaster's name is that it's a fusion of two font names- winding and aster. It would make sense for him to speak in one of those. But someone else? Not likely, I think. Unless all the entities in this inbetween world have merged together and speak the language of its creator. I think it's much more likely that this is just another fragment of Gaster, who was after all thrown across time and space. We don't even know for sure that the sprite we usually associate with him is what he looked like. There's also the issue of the Gaster followers. Despite their resemblance to existing monsters, who's to say they weren't other victims of the "creation" as well? Argh, there's just too many variables, and it's all still wrapped in vagueness and mystery. I'm curious what Deltarune will bring to the table in the future... Edit: Okay, I am now convinced that the Mysteryman *is* Gaster, or at least a very significant part of him, because of the Deltarune failsafe text, and THIS POEM it contains: "* Is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye?" * The gash weaves down as if you cry. * The pain itself is reason why." That seems... Pretty conclusive to me.
@helio3928
@helio3928 Жыл бұрын
honestly, if gaster isn't mysteryman, then it's better that he isn't revealed at all
@cawareyoudoin7379
@cawareyoudoin7379 Жыл бұрын
@@helio3928 The fandom has such a strong image of him at this point, it would be very, very jarring. But funny.
@amog8202
@amog8202 Жыл бұрын
honestly even with the mysteryman correlation, [REDACTED] could be gaster. Possibly more likely, actually. Or at least, originally intended as so. Mysteryman could be more of an Easter egg than a mystery. [REDACTED] is obviously intentional, and has more ties to gaster. Of course, after the corellation, Toby might have changed gasters sprite to mysteryman. I have a feeling Gaster may be from Deltarune specifically, because of how little was in Undertale, and how he was mentioned. It'd be just as good if Mysteryman wasn't gaster though
@cawareyoudoin7379
@cawareyoudoin7379 Жыл бұрын
@@amog8202 I think it would make most sense if the actual Gaster looked... Pretty different than any in-game sprite suggested.
@SukiDreemurr
@SukiDreemurr Жыл бұрын
I hope Redacted appears in later deltarune chapters..Even if it’s just unused stuff. This character is so interesting and I want to know more about it-
@mentalman4808
@mentalman4808 Жыл бұрын
It's most likely actual cut content/an early version of Gaster. I will be really surprised if they come up again in the future. Sorry to disappoint.
@amog8202
@amog8202 Жыл бұрын
Gaster may be a Deltarune original, and would explain why he was referenced so vaguely and strangely in Undertale. REDACTED may just be gaster. They have a far stronger corellation to gaster than the mysteryman sprite, and REDACTED would have likely been really gaster, with mysteryman being a one-off.
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 Жыл бұрын
What if the REDACTED room is testing Napstablook's ability to fade as the player moves closer or further from them? They're the only character who does this in-game. "water" might as well be refering to Waterfall. REDACTED is associated with a scrapped horse staple event. Who lives in Waterfall and owns a farm? Napstablook.
@petruciosxd1374
@petruciosxd1374 Жыл бұрын
GHOST KEY
@actuallymrbee
@actuallymrbee Жыл бұрын
then what about the wingdings??
@new_random_guy
@new_random_guy Жыл бұрын
but it still doesn't make sense, why not use the sprite of any other monster, and why the wingdings was used as a dialog since the dialog object is not necessary?
@cheeburrburr_
@cheeburrburr_ Жыл бұрын
who lives in Waterfall and owns a farm? SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS
@quicheramene1860
@quicheramene1860 11 ай бұрын
and also why would it be link to the unused event of REDACTED with the key?
@xxcloudcuckoolanderxx
@xxcloudcuckoolanderxx Жыл бұрын
man, your story at the end gave me chills,,,, it was such a good concept and executed so well. though i like the idea, i just imagined it to be one of gaster's followers who couldn't make it out and got heavily corrupted, which i guess is similar! i'm gonna be honest, i've never heard the "woman with long hair over her face" interpretation before, but it makes a lot of sense. when you mentioned it, i thought the triangle sticking out of the head was a hair flick thingy. i hope to hear more of your theories in the future, it's surprising how little this room is covered ^^ i wonder how a horse stable is related, though? maybe they used to work there, or were one...?
@soontobechannel743
@soontobechannel743 Жыл бұрын
I dunno why but the thought of them being a horse instead of working at the horse stable is funny to me
@prodbyurod
@prodbyurod Жыл бұрын
susie
@lourdespachla6516
@lourdespachla6516 Жыл бұрын
​@@prodbyurodwait. Everything makes sense now. Susie got lost in gaster's creation too, and clamgirl only remembers her name cause shes a gaster follower too! That makes so much sense in my head.
@adrianscripts8013
@adrianscripts8013 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted this character to be talked about, seen lots of people brush it off but its too convienet. All the other test rooms seem like a test room. That redacted room doesnt seem like one! Thanks for covering it omegawott!
@tsflareon29
@tsflareon29 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, when renaming files like sprites or rooms or what ever, it tends to create a bunch of errors. So it's likely that when Toby made the sprite, he intentionally named the file "sprite_redacted_a." Which I find very very interesting.
@MB-bd8fq
@MB-bd8fq Жыл бұрын
Your artwork/imagery in the second half, combined with your voiceover, was fantastic!!
@shannonlemus
@shannonlemus Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie bro you’re editing is so professional for a Starting out youtuber it makes your video so much better
@PeridotEX
@PeridotEX Жыл бұрын
The theme of the Character Creator in Deltarune is "Another Him", what if Redacted (who based on this theory is literally Another person in His situation) is involved in it? They could be the second person who cuts off Gaster (I'm assuming you know about the Typer change for the last bit of the segment), having gone from apathetic about life to angry at someone going back. Alternatively, Redacted isn't the second person... they're it's victim. After all, "Redacted" can be defined as something or someone being discarded.
@imbob99999
@imbob99999 Жыл бұрын
holy shit you right Redacted is the discarded character
@SollidnitrogeN
@SollidnitrogeN Жыл бұрын
Absolutely preposterous. I love it! I feel like there's something of note though, with the key being "nearly invisible to the naked eye". considering the nature of the shadow crystals.
@user-jb9nz2fs2u
@user-jb9nz2fs2u Жыл бұрын
are you sure that you know what preposterous means?
@SollidnitrogeN
@SollidnitrogeN Жыл бұрын
@@user-jb9nz2fs2u Yes. what I'm saying is that this theory is ridiculous and absurd, but I still thoroughly enjoy it.
@user-jb9nz2fs2u
@user-jb9nz2fs2u Жыл бұрын
@@SollidnitrogeN oh sorry
@omegawott
@omegawott Жыл бұрын
@@SollidnitrogeN lmao fair enough
@petruciosxd1374
@petruciosxd1374 Жыл бұрын
Me and the boys on our way to unlock the Ice Palace door with the Pure Crystal.
@Peeblo
@Peeblo Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I've always been fascinated by this weird blob on some ominous dark room that people seem to gloss over for no reason, maybe because it doesn't have a cute face to draw or whatever. I personally just believe that REDACTED is Gaster himself, vanished onto the very depths of the game's code, and that Mysteryman's room is a Red Herring to the Gaster mystery. I have a couple of reasons to believe so: -Mysteryman disappears when interacted to never be seen again, a similar behavior to the Gaster Followers (he even makes a very similar noise to one of them). -Mysteryman's room can be found with random chance/luck just by playing the game based on a value that randomizes itself at the beginning of a new playthrough, unlike REDACTED, who you need to hack your way into and is probably the ultimate secret of the game. (Hell, perhaps a bit of a reach, but with the "X" thing at the horse stable, it almost seems as if he's the X that marks the spot, or that he's disallowing you from going any further as you've already reached the end.) -The definitive reason, REDACTED makes the exact same talking noise as the one heard on Entry 17, it's just that his text is calmer. And hey, we know Toby, the ways he foreshadowed Deltarune on Undertale were almost completely glossed over by the entire fanbase until they were finally revealed. Y'never know!
@bigbadgammagnome
@bigbadgammagnome Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory! I can only imagine people's reactions to that after years of having this other idea of how Gaster looks in their head
@doethundermelon
@doethundermelon Жыл бұрын
My mind is blown. I've been into Undertale practically since it released and I've never heard of the horse stable secret. Also even if this theory isn't true, your story at the end tying it all together was chilling and is just such a cool idea. Great video :)
@sludgeskin
@sludgeskin Жыл бұрын
same its insane for the past 7 years I've never ever heard of the horse stable, I hope toby has some more fun hidden things in store for us in the future
@talanyo
@talanyo Жыл бұрын
i know you mentioned redacted at the end isn't meant to be dess but i think personally it could! especially with the horse stable, with her being a reindeer and all. Anyway great vid! underrated as hell
@MarcusVinicius-bk4uj
@MarcusVinicius-bk4uj Жыл бұрын
Your theory could easily fit with the secret dialogue found in deltarune's code! The one where there is (i think) someone... lost in an eternal darkness?
@iampinball3669
@iampinball3669 Жыл бұрын
Or it could just be Gaster? Feel like that’s a lot easier solution for someone who literally speaks Wingdings and is shattered across spacetime. Also, people still remember Dess, and DONT go on without her.
@whact
@whact Жыл бұрын
yep
@stmp4160
@stmp4160 Жыл бұрын
Gaster speaks in uppercase not lower case wingdings.
@whact
@whact Жыл бұрын
@@stmp4160 so there's two characters who speak that way in your eyes
@stmp4160
@stmp4160 Жыл бұрын
@@whact bro literally every single character speaks in the same font except for Papyrus and Sans who are supposed to be unique in that way, you think that Gaster and another person can't share the same font? Also Sans and Papyrus are unique in their fonts probably only cause we don't see other skeletons, there are only so many fonts, if there were more skeletons they would most likely share fonts. Speaking of, for characters like Gaster, Sans and Papyrus the most important fact about their dialogue isn't only the fonts but the letters themselves, Sans speaks in only lowercase while Papyrus in uppercase, same goes for Gaster, only uppercase
@whact
@whact Жыл бұрын
@@stmp4160 it's not confirmed that he only speaks on uppercase
@boernaut
@boernaut Жыл бұрын
I loved how you structured this video. Especially the fairy-tale like story about Gaster at the later part of this video... thanks a lot for using my cover, I'm happy about how everything turned out. ♥
@omegawott
@omegawott Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!!! Thank you so much again for allowing me to use this incredible track!!!
@boernaut
@boernaut Жыл бұрын
@@omegawott Np!!
@TheEPiCiscoollmao
@TheEPiCiscoollmao 8 ай бұрын
0:58 oh and there is also tea.
@wholehorse331
@wholehorse331 Жыл бұрын
Since this was behind dogcheck I never wanted to consider it being important. But it may have been genuinely unused "unused" content in the game (as opposed to Fun events and Entry 17 being used "unused" content). I didn't know about the name of the room and how water now seems to keep coming up in Deltarune or with the river person's mention of the song coming from the sea.
@petruciosxd1374
@petruciosxd1374 Жыл бұрын
People have about determined that the vast majority of the Gaster stuff was added right at the very end, so what about this? I don't remember anyone mentioning it alongside the other stuff.
@wholehorse331
@wholehorse331 Жыл бұрын
@@petruciosxd1374 What do you mean it was added right at the very end?
@petruciosxd1374
@petruciosxd1374 Жыл бұрын
@@wholehorse331 Apparently a few reddit posts I was thinking of were all by the same person but here's one that goes over it: r/Undertale/comments/4ii2qk/new_gaster_information_and_solution_to_gaster/
@thepinkcoin1512
@thepinkcoin1512 Жыл бұрын
i always thought that redacted was just a piece of gaster like how the thing one of the gaster followers is holding is a piece of gaster
@buttercupkat
@buttercupkat Жыл бұрын
I love the new sprites (like you crossing your arms) and the presentation was fantastic! Stay determined!
@Shyhalu
@Shyhalu Жыл бұрын
10 bucks says its Dess holiday and she is the knight.
@lokievans6680
@lokievans6680 Жыл бұрын
HEY BOIS WAKE UP, OMEGAWOTT IS STILL ALIVE
@emperorbooglitch8540
@emperorbooglitch8540 Жыл бұрын
2:50 La Llorona mixed with that Bug pokemon Ultra Beast lady that despises filth.
@jamwrightiam
@jamwrightiam Жыл бұрын
I've personally always been on the side that redacted is just a fragment of faster, given they did literally get torn apart, and that fragment is likely the key to repairing faster or something along those lines, but I quite like the poetic nature of this interpretation as well!
@tuc-kaankaraayan
@tuc-kaankaraayan Жыл бұрын
The opening goes so hard. Acknowledging that people say you look like Spamton. Saying you actually made it before him and denying the connection. Then playing into it anyways. It's amazing. (00:28)
@somerandomyoutuber3509
@somerandomyoutuber3509 Жыл бұрын
This is actually a crazy good theory, and it lines up with the goner code in deltarune, the code that is someone calling out to the darkness. "help. can anyone hear me?" that code. the one calling out like that could very well be this [redacted] entity.
@smiley23608
@smiley23608 Жыл бұрын
I love how this video came out! It's a shame nobody else has documented this to such extent. The way the very video is put together is so perfect! Like, the Dess part IMMEDIATELY made me get chills, realizing what may had happened! Please, keep up the good work!
@sksjejsjwhhshsjejshsiiswijshsj
@sksjejsjwhhshsjejshsiiswijshsj 8 ай бұрын
Please make more videos about this subject and more videos in general this is so good
@thegoldenhexagon3999
@thegoldenhexagon3999 Жыл бұрын
This very well could be toby testing wingdings/sprite fading/something changing after an action is taken, but it is very interesting that toby used the same redacted sprite with that. It could also very well have meaning as this video explains.
@RalseiGaming
@RalseiGaming Жыл бұрын
i have a more reasonable gastor theory he’s just a test model for future characters and i think that character was roulx but toby saw the fan base kinda established their own idea of gastor being it’s own character so toby kinda added on to the mystery and based on some concept art and stuff i think that’s the case
@Cane4092
@Cane4092 Жыл бұрын
This man has only 4 videos and hasn’t posted in 8 months, yet he has almost 30k Your amazing
@MySnugglePuppy
@MySnugglePuppy Жыл бұрын
Ayo the figure in 272 is just Mari from Omori hanging around.
@quackelstheduck2040
@quackelstheduck2040 Жыл бұрын
I like to think in a funnier universe that mystery man isn't actually Gaster, and that Redacted is, and that mystery man is just a follower or a goner. Meanwhile Toby sees everyone talk about "Gaster" and he's like "Shit shit shit fuck fuck fuck what do I do now??".
@WretchedRaymond45
@WretchedRaymond45 Жыл бұрын
love your editing!!!
@omeganave7425
@omeganave7425 Жыл бұрын
I was sure I knew Undertale inside and out. I was sure I knew everything there was to know. But I had never seen that horse stable before today. Great video, and very interesting theory!
@buddy3490
@buddy3490 Жыл бұрын
Your editing is rad dawg!
@EnderKingDubs
@EnderKingDubs Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video! Can hardly believe you're brand new to the whole KZfaq thing. Can't wait to see what you do next!
@timpaul721
@timpaul721 Жыл бұрын
Kromer pinching hockey puck was exactly what I needed to hear today. Thank you
@oCoinor
@oCoinor Жыл бұрын
Considering this + the Skies Forever Blue mv being about Dess theory is so chilling to me (If this all ends up somehow becoming true, I congratulate you a lot for doing this connection even before the Skies Forever Blue video came out)
@kriss0ul
@kriss0ul Жыл бұрын
this video is AMAZING! You are really talented!
@ThatTelevisionGuy
@ThatTelevisionGuy Жыл бұрын
dang omega really improved the editing eh?
@ChaosEnthusiast
@ChaosEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
fandom: gaster! redacted: am i a joke to you
@nacnud2115
@nacnud2115 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was just agreed that this was another reanimate of gaster, seeing as they split into pieces.
@Afish8me2china
@Afish8me2china Жыл бұрын
I have a personal theory concerning this: the core gained energy from dark worlds
@SobreDunas
@SobreDunas Жыл бұрын
One time scrolling through tumblr I read a post that said that the redacted sprite looked like Dess standing on front of a door, and now I can't unsee it. I would also like to point out that Noelle's dark world attire is incredibly simple compared to the rest of the gang, and it might be because Toby already had a very clear version on how he wanted Noelle's dress to be, with the whole wide sleeves and everything. Redacted also seems to have very wide sleeves poking out of the hair thingy As for me, I have three theories on who redacted might be: Noelle, who lost one of her horns, had the other one eroded, and grew out her hair after being stuck in the void in her dark world attire. Maybe it's a distorted reflection on future deltarune events regarding Noelle and a door Dess, lost in the void A fragment of Gaster As for the last theory, I can provide some more "evidence": Gaster was shattered across time and space, right? Wouldn't it be contradictory for his lore to be able to be wholly physically present in Undertale? What's the occasion? I think the mysteryman sprite we all know and love is actually the "space" fragment of gaster. Think of it, mans gets not one but TWO exclusive rooms in regard to his event, and even though the black areas of the room are still walkable, the place seems a lot more physical and concrete than other events like redacted's black void Not only that, but if you interact with him he changes forms and dissappears, back into being everywhere and nowhere, showing that his form remains concrete across that specific place no matter where in the room you are And then you have redacted, a figure that, although you cannot go through it, it changes opacity depending on how close you are. Kind of like how sound becomes more feeble when you're farther away. Not only that, but even if you interact with it, the figure doesnt change, and instead gives you DIALOGUE. something that you can only hear Those things might have been a bit of a stretch, but for my final evidence I'd like to say that redacted's room takes you to the SOUND TEST ROOM. A PLACE FOR SOUNDS. the link between redacted and noise, especially Gaster's theme, is incredibly strong So yea. my three guesses
@precentvm8455
@precentvm8455 9 ай бұрын
Am very late on this video, really enjoyed the theory. My main issue with it, however, is that in Deltarune at least people remember Less. Rudy Holiday and Noelle both reference her in game, and the Spamton Sweepstakes implies Noelle's been looking for her online. Theres evidence the Holidays existed within Undertale as well, however, as the Undertale Christmas Clock App had Asgore's dialogue talk about Rudy Holiday and his two daughters, but Ashore only specifically references Rudy's "youngest daughter" and says nothing about the elder? Maybe there will be some sort of connection between Undertale Dess and Deltarune Dess...? Either way ,excited for chapters 3-5!
@pamelaojeda22
@pamelaojeda22 10 ай бұрын
Oh shoot, I just remembered, in the room with the crossword puzzle in Snowdin, Sans mentions Papyrus had been trying to solve the horoscope, it's played like something haha silly, but also, the lowercase of Windings has the horoscope symbols! it could be a reference to Redacted as well. so I really do wonder if this room was not just a test room.
@12Neonlit_stage
@12Neonlit_stage Жыл бұрын
OHHHH THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S REALLY GOOD Also love the editing on this?? It's so smooth
@outofsortsone
@outofsortsone Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Hope to see more from ya soon
@miniwhiffy3465
@miniwhiffy3465 10 ай бұрын
0:18 OBJECTION deltarune was thought of before undertale way back in 2012 and it's not so crazy jevil and spamton were atleast two characters thought of because of their relation to mystery man
@sansundertale8765
@sansundertale8765 Жыл бұрын
The low view count here upsets me, because your content is so high quality and full of passion.
@omegawott
@omegawott Жыл бұрын
thank you so much sans undertale,,,
@wscamel226
@wscamel226 Жыл бұрын
awesome theory-story-video!
@hsd6716
@hsd6716 Жыл бұрын
redacted could have actually been a repurposed test room, with the room initially being meant to test the "fading" effect that... whatever that thing is displays (and possibly also entering the sound test room). of course, i highly doubt being able to interact with the thing would in any way be relevant to testing the fade effect, which is why i think it could be "repurposed"
@Nothingending
@Nothingending Жыл бұрын
Well it could be made for that but i think it could have also been there to test the Wing Dings font (to see how it looks in game and does it work). It could be both at the same time.
@hsd6716
@hsd6716 Жыл бұрын
@@Nothingending cool, didnt think of that
@thedeathchimera
@thedeathchimera Жыл бұрын
The inaccessible room with the ficus guy leading to the disappearing memory head room kept bugging me too. Looks like ficus guy is standin for the mushroom guy, but the fact a follower leads you to an amalgamate we still don’t know much about is pretty weird paired with his dialogue.
@jeffboy4231
@jeffboy4231 Жыл бұрын
5:44 i think it could be testing for wing dings, if they work and such. as for why it would then be used in a horse stable... idk
@HalfBreadChaos
@HalfBreadChaos Жыл бұрын
Woah. nearly 30k subs with 4 videos total, and the most reason one is this epic masterpiece? Gonna have to subscribe and keep an eye on ya.
@pupperbop
@pupperbop Жыл бұрын
this is not just a great theory video but a work of art. came across this vid a few times but didn't click on it but im glad that i watched it.
@the-white-eye
@the-white-eye Жыл бұрын
i think one important thing is overlooked here. redacted speaks in wingdings, gaster was shattered, and the mystery man sprite was never actually confirmed to be gaster. redacted could BE gaster
@stmp4160
@stmp4160 Жыл бұрын
I mean, Undertale and Deltarune are very consistent with fonts and tones (Sans always speaking in lowercase well, Sans and Papyrus always speaking in uppercase Papyrus unless he's whispering etc.), so the fact that [Redacted] speaks in lowercase WingDings probably means he isn't Gaster, also, like you could claim he's whispering or smth but why would he even need to?? Oh also the sound that plays when Mystery man disappears is only present in the follower that holds a piece of Gaster (a small smiling white ball, reminds me of someone) when disappearing, plus with the whole Gaster blaster-white bone like theme and the 66 connections with Gaster's stats it's probably Gaster or well, at least a piece of him
@the-white-eye
@the-white-eye Жыл бұрын
@@stmp4160 mystery man is definitely TIED to gaster and it is more likely that thats him, i just wouldnt fully rule out the fact that redacted could also be him as the lower case could signify something else. hell, maybe theyre both him, he literally got shattered to pieces
@crypt5129
@crypt5129 Жыл бұрын
Napstablook's ability to fade in and out based on your distance from him in the snail farm in Waterfall? Hello?
@sodainabong
@sodainabong Жыл бұрын
I think the sprite of redacted might be gaster's face flooding/melting
@clownsdontbite7385
@clownsdontbite7385 Жыл бұрын
I super appreciate you making a video on Room 272. I never heard of the horse stable in Undertale and that bit of information is very very interesting. Could Gaster really not be the only one? Does this mirror events in Deltaruna and the one trapped in the code? We'll have to see.
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard Жыл бұрын
there's something just so ominous of wlaking and suddenly being faced with a shape tgat you can't even propwely comprehend or make sense of
@Calais-dn5bl
@Calais-dn5bl Жыл бұрын
Who knows, maybe [REDACTED] is the reason The Core was built? Maybe gaster once saw the entity and built the machine to find the otherworldly creature, cause the core seems WAY overkill if it's 'only' purpose was to power the underground. Or maybe when the core was built, gaster saw them in the void below the core and either fell or jumped inside to see what power the void could give him or some shit
@TheSkyGuy77
@TheSkyGuy77 Жыл бұрын
Gaster tried to pierce reality and discovered "dark fountains". Probably used The CORE for the power needed to do so
@kenku238
@kenku238 Жыл бұрын
I loved when you called the cast of Deltarune a bunch of verbally shit posting objects. That joke made me giggle, and is worthy of a subscription.
@desmondruhling
@desmondruhling Жыл бұрын
Wow! I never knew about this, I’m glad I found out about it through you!
@Someone-dy5ui
@Someone-dy5ui Жыл бұрын
I have a better explanation, the one that doesn't involve another unknown character. What if when Gaster was erased from reality, the game literally deleted them and replaced with that default auto-bug-fixer sprite (like purple-black chess pattern in Minecraft or something like that). Meanwhile every event that was connected to it was moved away so the game was able to work properly. Like it is quite obvious that horse stables are supposed to be entered northway, and would you know, the exit from reducted room is south. You can even recreate how they were fit in the game before being erased, although that is mostly speculation. There is also another secret room in waterfalls, the one with a tall grass and unknown guy with a creepy smile, just like Gaster. Maybe that is how you supposed to meet each other, after which they would tell you to go and visit their "home", so you go to that Gaster secret pathway, but instead of a door you would see stables and a trash can, after which you enter and probably get a side quest involving powering up that machine from Sans basement with the artifact (like srsly, why would Toby even add it if player isn't suppose to use it in the first place) which does who knows what, but clearly something awesome like giving you magic. Although, getting it wouldn't be easy, as you would probably need to sacrifice some exp and hp, cause I can't explain their battle stats otherwise. Add some sad backstory on how they got from royal scientist to THAT sprinkled with some true lab foreshadowing.
@sparksaturn1731
@sparksaturn1731 Жыл бұрын
can’t wait for more your awesome man
@dogbert1440
@dogbert1440 Жыл бұрын
not gonna lie for the past like 7 months i've had this insane theory that in deltarune, dess is in a very similar situation to gaster, and all of the creepy gaster-esque goings-on in deltarune have been like. half-gaster, half-her. there's a lot of evidence to support the theory and this video is sort of enabling me
@cwolf0915
@cwolf0915 Жыл бұрын
Huh....so what's this theory, because some of us need content yo. Asides from her vanishing during Noelles snowstorm, what do they have in common? No one remembers gaster based on what I seen in deltarune. But people remember dess
@lexushi99
@lexushi99 Жыл бұрын
that theory at the end was SWEET, very creative and very cool as well..
@Clovvvvi
@Clovvvvi Жыл бұрын
I think redacted is just placeholder for all scrapped gaster-themed events in the game
@clairehaldeman9293
@clairehaldeman9293 Жыл бұрын
the horse stable sprite was almost certainly done by Andrew Hussie, the creator of homestuck, who toby stayed with while making part of undertale. Hussie has a well documented love of horses.
@Nexusnetic
@Nexusnetic Жыл бұрын
i think redacted is a form of gasters melting body
@AselectirYT
@AselectirYT Жыл бұрын
Here’s my theory, too get the true ending of deltarune (probably not gonna be true though) you have to get all the secret bosses fight items, weird route all the characters, (if that’s what’s gonna happen) and choose all the creepy options, because then you know who is controlling it all and quoted by spamton “BREAK YOUR [[silly strings]]”
@bac0nlifeforever956
@bac0nlifeforever956 Жыл бұрын
“or whatever’s going on with Kris.” *ZZSHSHOOOM*
@majorlobster888
@majorlobster888 Жыл бұрын
It's not related to the video, but I really want to talk about another mistery, that have been seemingly forgoten. In Undertale, on a true pacifist route, after Frisk is done with a true lab, they step in the elevator, then they get a phone call. They never heard that voice. The text sounds familiar to me, yet I have no idea who it belongs to. The person is asking the player ( not Frisk ) if they are there, they saying it was a long time. Then they thank the player, "everything has fallen into place" "(player's name)" "See you soon." And then the elevator is falling and Frisk is ending up in the Asgore's home. I, to this day, have no idea what this was about and there is no videos on this topic. I beg, could some of you bring more attention to that? I really want people to talk about it, I feel it could be a huge thing for Deltarune as well.
@bearstarpresents2264
@bearstarpresents2264 Жыл бұрын
There’s always been the theory that we’re the same soul. I’ve never seen that cutscene off the top of my head. But could it be one of the two people at the character creation screen if your suspecting a cross over?
@majorlobster888
@majorlobster888 Жыл бұрын
@@bearstarpresents2264 I'm not really sure who that character might be, but that's a good theory. I think it will be somehow related to Gaster, like so many mysteries already. That cutscene is present in JackSepticEye's playthrough, and is not a secret cutscene either, everyone, who played Undertale gets it.
@sammytimgaming2947
@sammytimgaming2947 Жыл бұрын
I seen people having the different colour eyes for years. It’s nothing new, it’s been around for years. I recall seeing these things since 2017.
@sammytimgaming2947
@sammytimgaming2947 Жыл бұрын
Also anyone noticed that the sound at the beginning of Deltarune is literally gaster saying “Deltarune”. I believe gaster created “Deltarune”m out of the darkness.
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 Жыл бұрын
2:33 I thought it was a guy hunched over with a white censor bar covering his front
@Louls_gaming
@Louls_gaming Жыл бұрын
4:32 jumpscared me lmao
@Artur-xd6ve
@Artur-xd6ve Жыл бұрын
I think redacted is another bit of gaster, just like the one that follower n°2's holding, i Even think that part is his voice.
@adrianscripts8013
@adrianscripts8013 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god! Omegawott uploaded! Missed you pal!
@dippy_sippy
@dippy_sippy Жыл бұрын
i always thought the sprite was meant to be doctor gaster with "white-out" (hence redacted!) all over his face and down his torso
@hoiimatemmie706
@hoiimatemmie706 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god I love you so much for bringing this into my attention. I knew [redacted] existed, but I never knew where they came from, at least not that I remember. I never interpreted it being a person with long hair, I always thought it was just lines. And I’ve NEVER heard about the horse stable thing. I thought I had seen everything Gaster related, but you have proved me wrong. Thank you, Being that does not resemble Spamton G. Spamton at all
@JON.5
@JON.5 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact: there is an unused horse stable in undertale hidden within the files
@favesoe2201
@favesoe2201 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the best interpretation I saw of this design was on the Undertale subreddit. It decipted this thing as a pale, bright, mass of tentacles shaping a crying face out of a black coat. The concept was just so weird but at the same time it made so much sense, it was terrifying.
@WarhaulAndy
@WarhaulAndy Жыл бұрын
I am so glad that i'm subscribed to this channel, holy shit
@dextar7
@dextar7 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much
@wanjoris4355
@wanjoris4355 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, a fellow REDACTED remembered, and yes, I noticed the lack of recent theories about REDACTED too, and I'm glad that there is one now.
@ultraweh137
@ultraweh137 Жыл бұрын
The key of the trashcan is stated to be barely visible to the naked eye, just like the Shadow Crystals that are invisible, with only their Shadow visible.
@JacobTALE
@JacobTALE Жыл бұрын
I really like this theory man you did a good job. But I’ve also got a theory of my own. Perhaps [REDACTED] is also Gaster. When the followers say what happened when he fell into his creation they say he ‘shattered’ across time and space. Shattered into multiple pieces. Mystery man, [REDACTED] and the piece the follower holds. There could still be more pieces of him out there. Again great video man! Keep up the great work!
@Nothingending
@Nothingending Жыл бұрын
Nice theory. I don't think it's right but i don't think that it *can't* be right. It was fun to watch. Good job!
@plasticupkake
@plasticupkake Жыл бұрын
holy shit you're insanely good at drawing hands it's actually crazy
@Davidutul
@Davidutul Жыл бұрын
I mean there is a theory that gaster is the knight bc redacted is tough to be gaster and redacted is în a "horse stable", and a knight is represented by a horse in chess. And this theory of yours gives the impresiona that des is the knight. Possible, yes... However, seeing this makes me think something else. A knight is represented by a horse, but a knight is actually usually riding a horse. So what if gaster is the knight and des is the horse. In the ideea that the horse(dess) is what is helping gaster to be able to travel and connect to the deltarune universe, since în chess, the knight can go in an L shape move that goes both on the X and Y axium at the same time în one move(wich no other chess piece can do), representing that it can tehnically move to any place în the Town of deltarune, but also that is short distance travel wich represents why he și fixate on only the town (might be a bit too much extension but worth saying it), or/and move from the undertale plane of existance to the deltarune plane of existente(or the light world and dark world, or all 3)and viceversa. And also, the knight in chess passed trough any pieces in chess without interacting with it except the the pieces that he stops on (similar to how the deltarune knight could move across the Town without interacting or being seen by any of the people în the town) but it interacteed with the king and queen (by helping em instead of taking them down, oposite to chess logic, unless we count the fact that în chapter one it caotures the other 3 kings) bc is where his L shaped move stops, and on that same spot he makes the fountain . And if the horse is what helped the knight to do that it means that all this is done by using Des (somehow idk how). Huge speculație but worth considering it.
@ZehChaosFlower
@ZehChaosFlower Жыл бұрын
Idk if someone already said this, but I don't think Dess fell into the core, because she wasn't erased from people's memories. Her dad and Noelle both mention her. So. Not saying [redacted] couldn't be Dess, only that her situation couldn't be like Gaster's.
@omegawott
@omegawott Жыл бұрын
Very true!
@ma.2089
@ma.2089 Жыл бұрын
Maybe how it works is different for each person. Dess might’ve not been forgotten but there’s a couple of things in Deltarune that implies someone is wandering in the dark alone, and that sort of situation is reminiscent of this redacted room. She also just disappeared without a trace.
@devlinmcguire7543
@devlinmcguire7543 Жыл бұрын
Technically though, there's no diolog that suggest people completley forgot Gaster either. His followers remember him. There's evidence of him at least being described as "the guy before Alphys". And generally, because of his work creating the core, it's kind of impossible for people to forget him. Since the core was a major factor in people's lives. Providing power to the whole underground. . .
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