I do oil, brakes, filters, valves myself. Honestly fluids, brakes, filters are operate level things. Chain/sprockets aren’t hard either. It’s just turning a socket and taking off/putting on things in sequence. KZfaq!

I got charged £1300 for a service on a 2016 Street Twin with 6500 miles on the clock.New headset bearings and new chain and sprocket.£750 for labour.I felt like Triumph really ripped me off.Go to an independent garage that specialises in Triumphs and not to a dealer who will rip you off for labour costs

Franky, outrageous! You were thoroughly ripped off, my son. More than my Ducati desmo service and even my Mercedes service. You are young, and hopefully, a lesson learned. Fowlers should be ashamed. Unless it's still under warranty, that motorcycle is not difficult at all to service, check valve clearances, etc. There are ample servicing videos and general web pages to help.

And that ladies and gents is why you learn how to do it yourself! OUCH!!!

Not only is that an horrendous cost but I wouldn't trust any garage to do the job properly. Apart from the re-map, it's all simple stuff which doesn't need any special tools. If you learn how to do it yourself you will pay 1/10th of the price and get a better job done. 👍

I'm so glad I'm a mechanic, £980 that's half what I paid for my Triumph, I bought a T100 cat n Write off, less than 10k on it, I've done a full service on it, new parts to repair it including brake pads, oil filter, rocker cover gasket and shims still came in cheap. Bike parts arnt cheap but main dealer labour rates kill it. I've worked for prestige car dealers and labour was over £100 an hour plus the dreaded vat. In this day wouldn't it be nice if the government abolished VAT to help us all out.

Enjoyed this one dude, and there is no such thing as a too long video from you buddy. And great shout out for mental health at the end, one of the reasons I went out and passed my license last year, I never thought of myself as low/depressed or anything like that but the boost I feel when out riding is second to none. Take it easy buddy and keep up the great content.

A major service on my Triumph costs less than £40, and I know it has all been done properly. It's a 1978 T140V, and that cost includes all oils and filters, brake fluid change and valve clearances. In labour, it costs me half a day, some skin off my knuckles and a few swear words.

Blimey........ I am so glad when I boght my Royal Enfield Interceptor, I bought a Halfords Advanced 200pc toolkit and a set of feeler guages........ Good vid always like your content

Years ago I rode the 1050 Tiger and thoroughly enjoyed the bike and its smooth power. All of the moto-mags seem to love the T-plane crank but like you, I don’t. I test rode a Tiger 850 while looking for my next bike and the vibration through the bars totally turned me off. I also test rode a T-120 and a Speedmaster that day and rode home on the Speedmaster to replace my Thunderbird 1600. I loved my T-Bird. Sixty thousand miles and zero problems but a wonky right knee made me realize it was time for me and my bike to lose a few pounds. Three weeks and I like it more each time I ride. Once again, thank you for bringing to light and supporting men’s mental health.

Oh my giddy aunt, that's more than I lost in depreciation on my last bike. Fazer 1000, bought in 2013 £3,100 sold 2020 £2,250, serviced myself and covered 30,000 miles on it. Thanks for posting.

Really appreciate this vlog, I live in Australia now but 10 years ago fowlers and riders were regular haunts of mine particularly for the fry ups. I bought several bikes from fowlers, Triumphs mainly and always found them very professional and helpful. Hell of a price for that service though i must say. The last full service on my 650 interceptor at my local dealer here in Queensland was 10,000 Kilometres, thankfully with valve adjustment was under $400. about £200. Good old Royal Enfield. Still love the Triumphs though. Cheers from down under Lester.

I'd love to see another tour! I watch all the speedy related stuff since I have the same bike, but I like seeing the stuff over there and how you camp since I'm in the US

Good vid. Big bill. Bigger smile on his choppers! Good luck if you are happy 👍

How do’s mate 👋😃 Missing your Speedy videos and hoping you’ll be uploading more content soon. Random rides through the countryside and stopping at interesting pubs to look over your bike are most welcome because your channel is synonymous with the Triumph Speedmaster.

Hi Angus. Ouch! My bmw f800r is due a 16k service. I'm happy to let a trusted mobile mechanic ex bmw, work on it once a year to do the stuff I can't. Very reasonable charges. You were on my commute run on this, surprised I wasn't in the video! Biking the only way to get around here. Cheers

Great video 👍

If you doing the NC 500, suggest you do it clockwise then the sun (hopefully) will be behind you as you travel the best bit (the west coast) tips :- take your time, include Skye, take midge cream and enjoy. I did it in 2021. This year I am off down through the French Alps to Monaco and onto the Pyrenees. Cheers.

WOW!!! £900😧 I was thinking £400 max as its a main dealer and they always add a little more🤔 well actually a LOT more😂 however I almost fell over when you said £900. I know prices have gone through the roof recently but £900 is, putting it mildly rather excessive.

That’s right, Spring and time to ride but don’t forget to wear all the gear all the time. Be especially careful about your feet and make sure your boots provide all the protection you need! Enjoy!

Cool Video! You need to see Southern California Traffic, once you do, you won't mind the traffic where you are , haha. 20, 000 miles, wow, I am barely at 200 miles on my Triumph Bobber.

Welcome to triumph dealers😁😁😁learn to do it yourself. Its only the electronics u cant do. Its why I ride older bikes

Good idea for a video. FWIW, I have a combined distance of 160k kms on my 3 Suzuki’s and I check the valve clearance myself and none were ever out of spec.

Such a nice looking ride.

Ouch that is eye watering, even taking into account the valve clearance. Must admit I can’t see how they get to a service price that’s more than one for a Range Rover. Glad you bikes sorted though👍

I can bet they did valve check on a warm / hot engine?? Should be completely cold. When ever I've had mine done, the bike had to be dropped off the night before..

WOW! An 18,000 mile service on my NT700 Deauville including oil and filter,air filter,valve clearance check and adjust(including new rocker gaskets),new sparkplugs,shaftdrive oil change,brake fluid and coolant check,rear brake pads and a new pair of Dunlop tyres cost me £750 at Blackpool Honda maindealer. Without the tyres and brake pads the service was just over £350,considering the plastics they needed to remove to even get to the servicing I reckon it was a bargain if Fowlers are anything to go by

Morning RedAng - that's not so helpful for mental health! Crickey. Glad you don't seem unduly upset by it. I was interested by the ECU remap: my understanding is that new Bonnevilles can't have a re-tune 'cos of Triumph software protection. Shame. I too have to nudge the throttle a little on take-off which, compared to my old Sportster, is a bit tedious. (Plus I forget from time to time so stall it, most embarrassingly.) I'm looking forward the ECU remap video. (ECM in Harley speak - that's just what I'm used to!). Cheers, Chris

There used to be an excellent magazine called Motorcycle Mechanics which dealt with DIY servicing and much more ...

That's bloody ridiculous. Just had 18k service on my tiger 800 by MuddySump and it was well under half that including valve check on my Sprint st1050.

Any chance you could do more videos of your Speedmaster please. In particular which accessories you wish you had bought and which haven’t lived up to expectations (ie luggage options, backrest for pillion, mid-foot controls, dresser bar, highway pegs, spotlights etc)

Try a Trophy SE 32,000 km service, no change out of $2000 CDN dollars. Thats one reason why i bought another bike to save racking up the miles on my big tourer. But when you look at the Trophy there is a ton of crap that has to come off to get to the engine!!!

As a mental health sufferer ,may I thank you for your efforts to help neutralise the stigma ( much better than it used to be) of mental health issues ❤

Hey Red scooters good idea but the ones with decent sized wheels only like I have seen in Spain , but as long as they stay out of the way as those were on that road ..Like the Tiger 660 good mid range adventure I reckon ,but "ouch'' that must have hurt mate I was thinking 600 ish costs must have gone up drastically since I had my last valve job done a year ago on my bike gotta say i'm a bit shocked .😉👍

Flippin eck mate that's expensive !.I live near you and went to Fowlers years ago to buy a new Bonneville from them but eventually got it somewhere else ( Bishops ) because the sales guy wanted to charge me extra over the Triumph otr price by adding an admin cost on top . The other dealer didn't want to stick an admin charge on top and also having ordered some Triumph accessories through them,fitted all of them free of charge.....On a different note don't forget about the new 20 mph limit from Lambridge to Winsor Bridge.Ride safely .

Making Harley Davidson look much better. No valve adjust. 100,000 mile drive belts, easy to do flood changes. Get the brake fluid changed every two years.

Wow...£985! That's a bit eye watering. I've recently bought a new Honda NC750X Dct and was shocked by the £249 quote for the first 600 mile service (which is barely more than a safety check). What is it about the cost of motorcycle serving... how can my twin cylinder bike cost as much or even more to service than my technologically complex hybrid car! Great video, as always.

There's no such thing as a free courtesy bike - they factor it into the service cost. That's an eye-watering price, I only paid £1000 for the last bike I bought, 18 months ago. I'm a retired car mechanic, so I've always done all my own servicing and repairs, cars and bikes. It breaks my heart that I have to pay someone else to service my car since I retired, because I don't have access to a workshop for it, but no-one else touches my bikes.

Buy a service manual and do the oil change, air filter, and the brakepads yourself. Also ask the mechanic if you can strip the bike down of parts, fairings, etc to cut down on labour cost for the valve check and adjustment.

Holy Moly, you should contemplate full contact karate as you seem to take punches really well and keep a straight face! 😮 Since Scotland promotes the NC500 you have to book your B&Bs in advance. Make room for a trip to the Oarkneys and know that you can book B&B on the ferry on your way back. May is a good month for Scotland if you don’t wanna have rain every single day! 😅 Stay safe! Cheers, Lupo

my BMW 1250RS 12k one in may will be around 400£ so ... can't wait:) also in Bristol :)

If you're going to do the NC500 (very busy at times they say) then you really need to visit the Isle of Skye, such a beautiful island with lots of wild camping on the east coast ;) ps: just an idea - maybe spend a bit of time and cash on a bike maintenance course?

That's a stinger... gotta be done though Scotland or Wales.. both very picturesque.. have to call in the Lock Ness museum if you get to Scotland.. make an Interesting video Nice video Cheers Angus

Were you happy with fowler's? Last couple of times I went there they were dreadful. Love those speedmasters

They would have only changed the oils and filter thats, I wourked for one of these shops and they will rip you off no end and put a smile on it just to make you feel good.

Hi, Can you tell me where you got your phone case/Holder on your speednaster handlebars. Cheers. Enjoying your Videos. Getting my new Speedmaster in about 3 weeks ..can't wait. Happy riding 👍👍👍👍

As long as you are happy . I wouldnt be. Thats a crazy cost. I got 2 bikes and never came anywhere near that cost for a service. But if you're happy enjoy

Hi there Angus, glad you enjoyed the tiger sport 660. I really enjoy riding my sport 660 and weekends are such a blast 💓. As regards fowlers charging so much for a service, it depends on the dealership , and location. But as you say the bike is so much better and is worth every penny. Really enjoyed this one and great to see how big Fowlers has grown 😀 👍.

Bonkers mate. I have a German performance hatch and the major service, gearbox oil and differential oil came to £200 less than yours! Definitely suggest a non-dealer service. Imagine the cost of that plus seals or a sprocket and chain? Robbery for a bike. Not far off 10% the value of the bike in one service.

I must be missing something...or maybe I'm a bit dim, but I cannot understand why the new Triumphs are so horribly expensive to service...people seem to accept paying a thousand pounds for a service!!. The bikes themselves are fab...theres a Triumph scrambler xe with my name on it somewhere !! Enjoy your next adventure, cheers, Steve

I’ll be doing that service myself when the time comes..£100 quid on parts, and I’ll spend the rest on petrol👍

So the lesson here is look at the money you can save over the years when you learn to service it yourself. It might turn out to be the cost of the bike itself given enough time. I've been riding drive shaft bikes for nearly 40 years but have had my share of chain drive also, especially because of dirt biking. I found a company that made stainless steel sprockets that advertised that it would likely be the last sprocket you would ever buy. It had to be laser cut out of some very hard material. They were right. I could not wear it out. I wonder if anyone makes stainless steel chain? I remember wearing out chain, running them until the rollers fell off, and I ran a front sprocket until the teeth were so far gone it began jumping on the chain. The teeth were not pointed at all, but rather looked like gentle waves. Chain drive is very dependable. Lots to be said for chain drive actually. I found some chain lube that was also awesome, so much so that I was accused by several people I rode with because in the middle of a desert poker run my chain was the only one that was still black and looked wet. They thought I was lubing the chain, and I was not. I forgot what that brand was but it was awesome, and it never flung, just as they said. If I had a chain now, I might try some tungsten disulfide powder mixed in a spray bottle of alcohol, or just go with plain old heavy grease and wipe off all excess, just to keep the chain from rusting, and then just run it 'till the rollers fall off, but then you better have some real tough sprockets or just replace everything as set as recommended. I did really like the shaft drive. (Old BMW K) but then you did have to take the entire rear of the bike apart all the way to the clutch to lube the splines once in a while. Learn to do everything yourself is my advice, and do actually do it. Jack up the front of the bike to check the steering head bearings. They like to wear a notch in the race from all the potholes while riding straight ahead. If you move the wheel side to side, there should be no notchy feel. If there is, replace them. Do Not tighten them if they feel notchy, but you do need some bearing preload. I don't believe the front wheel should bang over to it's stops by itself, but there should be slight resistance felt. Check your manufacturer on this, but most people could do most all of the maintenance yourself, and you do have to keep maintenance. It's all a part of the ride.

Fowlers must have big windows. They see you coming. Total rip off.

Wow. That has decided it for me. Dealer service until the Warrantee is out then do it myself or an independent. £900. You poor chap. Keep on with the videos. Great entertainment and good for my motivation. I hope to buy a Speedmaster soon.

We are just simply ripped off by main dealers these days. Yes their costs have gone up, and all they do is pass them on to customers, but also stick their massive percentage profit on top. And for reference, a friend had his 40.000 mile service done at a Triumph dealer 2 weeks ago, including brake pads £620. (15 plate 1200 Tiger explorer)

Free courtesy bike 😂😂😂😂

I thinking the whole "lubricated pivot points" they nail you with entails just spraying it with some WD40/penetrating oil.

bro this is insane my 125 cc chinese old style bike its 80€ at full service🤣 NO WONDER THEY GIVE YOU A COURTESY BIKE GODDAMN🤣🤣🤣🏍💥💥💥💥💥

Well, I don't know how you guys ride your bikes, but i bought an 09 triumph 1050 Tiger new, sold it three years later with 36.500mls on it no shims, no chain an sprockits. Serviced it myself an saved by your price about three grand. I can only think you got a gold plated chain with solid gold sprockits 🤭

In reality the free bike loan and insurance of it is included in the price. If you were to look up 2 days hire & insurance I wonder what it would be. Also it seems just changing the exhausts is more complicated than we think.

Dealerships always charge double labour costs and you also pay double for original parts...it's tough running a business so they have to offset the costs somewhere. Unfortunately, unless your lucky enough to have a local mechanic just round the corner working out of his garage it's always going to 🤕 hurt

Nice video,but that service cost is criminal and you have no guarantee they have even done the valve check,that's why I do all my own servicing..an independent garage would of been a third of that cost,sorry but I can't stand rip off merchants..

I bought a new Rocket from Fowlers and use them for the items that I cannot do myself like 20000 mile valve clearance check which I had done this time last year. Cost all in with a set of new plugs as they had to remove them as part of it plus cam cover seals and the dreaded vat was £260.00 so not to bad in the grand scheme of things. Going in again soon for brake fluid change again this has to be carried out by the dealership as the bike has ABS they quoted £90.00 as this is a std charge for this job which again not to bad. But it comes down to what a person can or cannot do themselves as the labour rate I worked it out last year was £100.00 Hr from another Triumph dealership quote. Changing oil and filter is not rocket science along with brake pads, coolant and giving the bike the once over.

A big shout out to fowlers 😂 for taking your pants down, that’s a ridiculous price

I have got to get my Harley it’s 20k service which is a big one (oils ,fork oil and head bearing greased etc.) and am expecting a similar sized bill with labour costing £150 an hour. Yours was inflated by new brake pads which can easily be another £100 if all of them need changing these you could have done yourself and saved a bit pretty easily. The thing is not everybody is capable of doing valve adjustments (shims under buckets no thanks) and if you are getting good service sometimes paying for it is the best way to go.

I've bought two bikes from Fowlers and unfortunately I've not been happy with their service. They seem too busy, and Customer Service is a victim of their success.

Come up to Matlock Bath sometime and I'll buy you a cuppa! There's a motorcycle mental health charity based there as well as it being a Biker hangout.

hourly wages for mechanical work make up 30-80% of service costs depending on what you r having done. It is up to you, whether you want well paid mechanics or not, even if they do not see nearly the full buck you r paying for hourly labour, they ll see some of it.

beautiful video but... 15.00 min video and reveal is at 14:30 :)))) good luck with the beast!

Eek! Glad I was sitting down...Surprised that didn't include brake fluid or is that part of the 10k service?

Absolutely insane prices being charged, and often at main dealerships the work is done by trainees that haven’t a clue, do the work yourself, fluid changes and pad changes are easy, if you want to check for fault codes and latest maps go to an independent and book it in just for that job.

I know it’s an old upload but Hopefully you’ll see it. I have question regarding touring and the Speedmaster. As I am a Speed Twim 1200 owner I know My bike isn’t suitable for other than shorter journeys with a pillion rider and luggage because of hard to set preload and well… tiz a sportier bike mainly for the one rider… so how does the Speedmaster handle journeys? Would it handle let’s say… 2000 miles without being a pain for a pillion rider But… yes a Tiger 1200 is in my radar for those longer trips.

Wow that's a lot, double that of my hi lux

Ouch. Is about what a week stay in Cuba would cost from where I live ! 🙂 Would doing your own maintenance void your warranty ? Will be minus 25 C here this eve. Come on spring ! Cheers

Iv always done my own maintinance its not hard but i do have two brothers who are time seved macanics i always get a manule but i under stand that not every one is capadle or macanicly able iv talket to some shop staff and i wonder all they can do is oil changes ps the best macanice is a oil change

All I can say is OUCH! That is quite pricey for the service. This tells me I should limit my mileage 😀if I can.

If you have an interest learn to do the work yourself, I did a course 20 years ago and have not taken anything to a dealer for servicing since. The bonus apart from saving the cost is that I know that it has been done correctly which was not always the case with the dealer. Mike

Ouch, £985!!! Well at least you got the correct map for Speedie with the V&H pipes plus all the service items done. For the valve check count yourself lucky that you don't have a 4 or 6 cylinder bike or a Ducati! You need to do another video of how smoothly your Speedmaster is running now, purring along. Sure would be interested in a Tiger 1200 or better still a 900 GT Pro with a triple engine WITHOUT the T plain crank nonsense!!! I want to change my Sprint ST1050 and test rode the 900 GT Pro but just hated the T plain crank triple engine that Triumph has put in it. Why, oh why???!!! Triumph have lost their way big time especially after the lemon that is the Speed Triple 1200RR. Don't change what is working well. Angus, I thought you lived in London? Did you leave the big smoke? Trouble with Scotland is that it is either cold wet and miserable or slightly less cold wet and miserable. And then there are the midges. How about a quick tour around France? Take a ferry from Portsmouth to Cherbourg or St Malo then ride around for about a week or however long you have planned. Head back up to St Malo, Cherbourg or other port on the northern French coast and back to Portsmouth. Portsmouth is a lot nearer then Scotland to Bath. The thought of a 400-500 miles ride up to Scotland on mostly boring and congested UK motorways to get to the start of the North Coast 500 puts me right off. How about riding the Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland or part of it? Riding through central and N. Wales to Holyhead to catch the ferry to Dun Laoghaire isn't too bad, quite scenic really if you choose a good route. But Ireland can be wet. Not known as the Emerald Isle for nothing. The west coast is stunning.

Ouch! But sounds like they did a lot though and if you can notice a difference thats a good thing. P.s Am thinking a Himalayan now even more attractive so can service myself. Plus insurance is £150 less than my 125 after just a year. I will feel like a snail up hill though, oh well.

A thousand pounds, bloody hell, what a rip off. They saw you coming, not only that they knew what time too. Crazy land.

I thought BMW prices were high my gs1250 cost just over £300 for its 24000 mile service including valve check won't complain in future. My old explorer 1200 was about £350 for the full valve check service at 20000 miles about 4 years ago glad I live in the North East much cheaper up here.

Think you got ripped off there mate, never had a service cost like that on any bike including Fireblade, SP1, R6 or Harley!!!

I'll have to stay with a motorcycle in which the valves are adjusted by screw and lock nut. I wonder how the valves are adjusted on the Yamaha Tracer 700 and 900?

that was steep. I'm dreading a 10th service now, and will have to save for the 20th service.😓

Seems to me more expensive to run than a family car.

Labour costs are getting out of hand, both for cars and bikes. I stopped using the Skoda main dealer for servicing my car when I saw that they were charging me £138 (incl VAT) per hour for the work they were carrying out. I now use a small mobile independent mechanic who comes to my house and does all of the work on the driveway - he charges £60 per hour (incl VAT) and is excellent. When a vehicle has exhausted its warranty there is really no reason to pay the exorbitant prices that main dealers charge, unless of course you are very wealthy and money is no problem.

You could go to Martin Motorcycles in brislington hes a triumph tech all the software etc

That bill's a ridiculous amount of money, and while people pay it dealers will keep charging it and bike manufacturers will keep saying your bike needs it and your warranty will be invalidated if you don't. It's why I own older bikes, do what I can myself, and use local independents when I need to. You really don't need a new bike that is tied to these crazy costs to get the full enjoyment of owning and riding a motorcycle.

Best trying to find an independent dealer or an ex dealer mechanic who works from home, or do it yourself. Remember, these big dealers have got overheads to pay.

Wow

Even at the current appalling exchange rate, in Chiang Rai I pay 2.50 GBP per hour to get my little KTM serviced. I had a GS for 14 years and 91,000 miles: the first of the 8-valve ones, the 1100. Those little electric scooters are stupid things. I like your Speedmaster's lines. 985 GBP is really expensive. But that's rip-off England for you.

I sold my motorcycle just before it's first major service was due at 16k miles. I then went out and bought a brand new motorcycle. The net cash outlay was $3600. I avoided a costly service, won't have a costly service for a long time, and got a brand new bike with a 2 year warranty and new everything, tires, brake pads, chain, sprockets, etc.

HOW MUCH? WOW!

Was expecting about £500 !!

Hi.....did you ask them if the valves were out of spec....regards...

Yes that is excessive...but what do you make of this ..on my last triumph i was attempting to do an oil and filter change but the filter was siezed on ..so i contacted a triumph dealer and tgey said they would only get the filter off as part of a service not as a one off job..so it cost me over £400 on my old 865 speedmaster...

Shit I couldn't afford the services let alone the bike

What they did wasn’t a lot really. How many hours did they spend on it?

Thats a bit of a sting, the remap was in the price of your Vance & hines exhausts if you bought them from triumph? i enquired a few years ago and asked why they were so expensive and thats what i was told at a triumph dealer, perhaps you need to check this expensive bill and make sure you haven`t paid for the remap again? i have my Speedmaster serviced at Shropshire Triumph in Stoke, i believe they do a good job, (certainly better than the services ive had done at non triumph workshops, and a certain triumph dealer in Chester !!) and reasonably priced for a triumph dealer.

Before I hear the total - im guessing $2,000 USD ! 983.00 lbs = $1,176.73 - Most labor was on the valve adjustment- =>16 valve's - how did they do it, and how long did it take? - btw: nice bike !