What is happening with Abrams tanks in Ukraine?

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RedEffect

RedEffect

26 күн бұрын

A lot of stuff has happened in relation to the Abrams tanks ever since I last covered them on my channel. One got captured, potentially a second one too, several have been lost as well...
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@ramielthefifthangel
@ramielthefifthangel 24 күн бұрын
So about 20 left and we still didn't see any T-tank vs Abrams fight yet. Damn drones ruined armoured warfare.
@ivanstepanovic1327
@ivanstepanovic1327 24 күн бұрын
Nah... A tank destroying another tank is very rare since the first tanks appeared. Even in WW2 the most tanks were destroyed by artillery, airforce, infantry anti tank weapons and mines. Other tanks are pretty much last on the list... This war in Ukraine is no exception...
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 24 күн бұрын
based drones made Ukruks beg for the wrong type of gear.
@IMP-vi6je
@IMP-vi6je 24 күн бұрын
This is equivalent to war thunder players saying cas is ruining the game for tank players 😂
@renegaderu5126
@renegaderu5126 24 күн бұрын
I don't think if that happens it will be anything interesting. Most likely, the fight will be one-sided - whoever sees the target and strikes the first blow wins.
@IMP-vi6je
@IMP-vi6je 24 күн бұрын
There was a leopard vs t 72 (probably) fight and the t series won by shooting the side of the leopard
@charlieperaltaf
@charlieperaltaf 24 күн бұрын
A whole new front has opened in the comments: the 68th and 69th NAFO Cope Brigade vs the 2nd and 3th Russ Bots Battalion.
@unapersona8352
@unapersona8352 24 күн бұрын
Hell yeah i'm bringing the popcorn on this one
@robcanisto8635
@robcanisto8635 24 күн бұрын
"already in position, sir- just give the order."
@SakeDude
@SakeDude 24 күн бұрын
Russ Bot reporting for duty
@thulomanchay
@thulomanchay 24 күн бұрын
Uke Bot spotted.
@ZOV24-2-22
@ZOV24-2-22 24 күн бұрын
URA!!
@oliverstianhugaas7493
@oliverstianhugaas7493 24 күн бұрын
It's a real war, tanks get blown up and sometimes captured. The Crews are terrified of burning to death so often the crew will jump out even if the tank is still in fighting shape.
@metralla
@metralla 24 күн бұрын
Sherman tanks shooting smoke rounds to Panthers so the crew would panic thinking the tank was on fire. Apparently it worked sometimes.
@corneliusmcmuffin3256
@corneliusmcmuffin3256 24 күн бұрын
This was really common even in world war 2. The Finns captured many Soviet tanks because all they would have to do is kill a the crew member with anti-tank rifle and the crew would very often completely abandoned the vehicle leaving a perfectly intact tank to be captured.
@Vandelberger
@Vandelberger 23 күн бұрын
Keep in mind western tanks are designed with crew survivability as a priority. It is far easier to egress from an Abrahams, Bradley, Leopard etcetc than Russian T- Series and BMPs. Casualties easy point this out as almost all crews from these vehicles survive so far.
@cannack
@cannack 23 күн бұрын
yeah no matter the county, no mater the tank, no matter the soldier fire sucks universally
@D64nz
@D64nz 23 күн бұрын
@@metralla I heard of russians running up to German tanks with hammers to make the sound of hits, and the crew leaping out. The kings though were the Japanese with their crazy anti tank sticks with mines on the end.
@preludeh22a57
@preludeh22a57 24 күн бұрын
People saying about Russians wanting to capture unharmed Abrams tank to examine it... fully forgetting that even Egypt, current BRICKs member and close Russian ally, have over 1300 Abrams tanks that been fully inspected from top to bottom by Russian military specialists years ago. They even had time to test all current shells for penetration at various angles. P.S. at 2nd Iraq war there was a Russian specialist team who secretly tested Kornet ATGM at Abrams in real combat. C'mon, guys! Where is the analytics? Russians know more about Abrams then its operator crew. Pretty sure there is a full documentation available
@IrrationalCharm
@IrrationalCharm 24 күн бұрын
Yeah. These Abram’s are old as hell. Same for the Leopards. I think the newest version Ukraine has is at least 20 years olds
@Cormano980
@Cormano980 24 күн бұрын
​@IrrationalCharm they are the ones from the Gulf war, they've send the same to Eastern Europe nato members, I've seen then up close
@nimdaqa
@nimdaqa 24 күн бұрын
Where did you learn that "at 2nd Iraq war there was a Russian specialist team who secretly tested Kornet ATGM at Abrams in real combat"? Not stating that I dont believe just that I am curious.
@preludeh22a57
@preludeh22a57 24 күн бұрын
​@@nimdaqa Long story short I've heard it form various sources, but one that comes to mind for sure is Russian "Combat Approved" series dedicated to ATGMs, where Korent producing factory CEO told this very story that not a Russian military personnel, but their own factory member with a support of local contractors continuously tested it there. There are lots of US-sided reports about it too. There are even rumors that on 24 March 2003 president J.Bush called V.Putin (this phone call existed) and asked about amount of new ATGM systems being sold to Iraq referencing to Kornet (Americans did not know what was it exactly at that moment)
@nimdaqa
@nimdaqa 24 күн бұрын
@@preludeh22a57Thanks!
@Loplyful
@Loplyful 24 күн бұрын
FPV drones have really changed the game when it comes to armored combat. Not saying they are now obsolete but they are definitely not as good as they used to be 20-30 years ago.
@NorbMit
@NorbMit 24 күн бұрын
as always - new anti-tank weapons are countered with new protection and new tactics
@TROONTRON
@TROONTRON 24 күн бұрын
MBTs were shown to be obsolete already after the second Chechen war.
@renegaderu5126
@renegaderu5126 24 күн бұрын
There are no really good drones yet, but there is no normal systemic counteraction, even simple ones. There is no real electronic warfare on both sides.
@morowenidi4621
@morowenidi4621 24 күн бұрын
@@TROONTRON no, outside big cities they were very good still. In cities they got rekt
@___seb3341
@___seb3341 24 күн бұрын
​@@TROONTRONMBT is obsolete because of russian incompetence in the chechen war braindead take lol
@andersonklein3587
@andersonklein3587 24 күн бұрын
Tanks in the 1930s: well, we just need protection on the front against other tanks, the sides will only be shoot with rifles. Tanks in the 1950s: well, we only need protection on the side against light RPG and bazookas and recoilless rifles... Tanks in the 1990s: well, we only need protection on the front, the side, and the skirts, and active defense because RPGs, IEDs, ATMGs, etc etc... Tanks in the 2020s: well, it's either a perfect sphere of armor or nothing I guess.
@bipee3937
@bipee3937 24 күн бұрын
2024. Battering ram tanks and turtle tanks
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 24 күн бұрын
RPG 7 Made in 1973
@floofy5529
@floofy5529 24 күн бұрын
We might just end up with tanks just meant for close artillery (razing buildings) with much less effort in protection, like the Booker tank. Only able to withstand small arms and RPGs when hit from certain angles. They'll only be used if enough active anti-drone equipment is around and not have to worry about lugging around all of that extra armor to survive a MBT hit.
@tasman006
@tasman006 24 күн бұрын
2040s Incoming Laser Active protection system or dual warhead APS.
@bipee3937
@bipee3937 24 күн бұрын
@@floofy5529 an MLRS on a pickup truck. Toyota had already done that... Armed only with plot armor...
@krunchie101
@krunchie101 24 күн бұрын
Turns out it doesn't matter what tank you use since all can be disabled by mine and then destroyed by an FPV.
@historyisawesome6399
@historyisawesome6399 24 күн бұрын
Idk why everyone thinks that only t-seris tank suffer from modern combat
@juliuszkocinski7478
@juliuszkocinski7478 24 күн бұрын
It still is. Crew survivability difference is absolutely real.
@danh7411
@danh7411 24 күн бұрын
Go ask the crew if they want to sit in an Abrams/Leo and have higher chance of surviving or sit in a T-72/T-80/T-90 and the whole crew go to space together.
@historyisawesome6399
@historyisawesome6399 24 күн бұрын
@@danh7411 crew survivbility is a huge problem but i more ment alot of people thing that nato tanks under nato commanders could use basicaly 1980s style tatics and not get punished just like the russian have and will still be uber effective
@miha1999grobar
@miha1999grobar 24 күн бұрын
@@danh7411 Most T series tanks losses are not disasterous ammo cookoffs but moderate damage and the crew survives. This is especially true for T90M that has blowout panels like the western tanks
@al1sa920
@al1sa920 24 күн бұрын
Don't bring an Abrams to a shovel fight
@dday7902
@dday7902 24 күн бұрын
rusty shovel*
@sapiensiski
@sapiensiski 24 күн бұрын
Come up with new jokes already. Getting almost as old as the russian turret toss jokes
@avex3903
@avex3903 24 күн бұрын
@@sapiensiski you mean how the coping nafo bots bring the 3 days thing even tho no official in russia said it
@y0h0p38
@y0h0p38 24 күн бұрын
@@avex3903 Russian state media was saying that though. State media. I wonder what state means? It couldn't mean that the media is controlled by Russia. Or the fact that VDV at the beginning of the invasion were dropped in with only around 3-7 days with of equipment, and no support/supplies?
@sapiensiski
@sapiensiski 24 күн бұрын
@@avex3903 "coping nafo bots" You guys ever listen to yourselves? You make fun of the people saying "russian bots" but sound exactly like them Unbelievable lack of self awareness
@xanderalexander5258
@xanderalexander5258 24 күн бұрын
you dont send 31 tanks to a war to help out, you send hem to see how they stand up top modern warfare
@unbearifiedbear1885
@unbearifiedbear1885 24 күн бұрын
☝🏻
@sapiensiski
@sapiensiski 24 күн бұрын
Just goes on to show how useless tanks really are
@Crentshen
@Crentshen 24 күн бұрын
190%
@andrews.5212
@andrews.5212 24 күн бұрын
The answer is... Not well at all.. they are a 70tons semi mobile target that need fuel every 8hours... I don't think the Abrahams got A SINGLE kill..
@timofy2641
@timofy2641 24 күн бұрын
its a win win for both parties which is exactly why US has been so keen on sending equipment to Ukraine. Good image + testing
@OsborneCox.69.420
@OsborneCox.69.420 24 күн бұрын
LazerPig must be furiously painting his nails somewhere!
@andrews.5212
@andrews.5212 24 күн бұрын
Ah yes.. poor nafo bastard!
@SergyMilitaryRankings
@SergyMilitaryRankings 24 күн бұрын
Yeah him and Adam really went full brain rot with this war
@robcanisto8635
@robcanisto8635 24 күн бұрын
He's bust thinking of ways to insist Red is merely commie mouthpiece. "HIS NAME HAS RED IN IT! COMMIES! RED! SEE?!!?!??"
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 24 күн бұрын
Wasn't he part of the NAFo?
@rileyernst9086
@rileyernst9086 24 күн бұрын
*Trotters.
@jaffacalling53
@jaffacalling53 24 күн бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day that an Abrams would be sporting Kontakt-1
@militaryanalysis5028
@militaryanalysis5028 24 күн бұрын
it's not actual Kontakt-1 but American made ERA for the Abrams TUSK upgrade (made in USA)
@jaffacalling53
@jaffacalling53 24 күн бұрын
@@militaryanalysis5028 in the video he clearly says kontakt-1
@DaSteeJ07
@DaSteeJ07 24 күн бұрын
@@militaryanalysis5028someone didn’t watch the full video
@coldcupofmilk
@coldcupofmilk 23 күн бұрын
@@militaryanalysis5028 and the ukrainians are putting actual kontakt-1 on it lol
@Nikowalker007
@Nikowalker007 21 күн бұрын
@@militaryanalysis5028It had American Tusk ERA on the sides and Kontakt 1 at the friont
@pabcu2507
@pabcu2507 24 күн бұрын
It’s lacking putinium armor
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 24 күн бұрын
it's lacking ukropium armor.
@nemiw4429
@nemiw4429 24 күн бұрын
Does it have Copium armor?
@darthnagus5457
@darthnagus5457 24 күн бұрын
Unatianium is lacking
@shanerooney7288
@shanerooney7288 24 күн бұрын
@@nemiw4429 Copinite ore is quite interesting. When under pressure, it takes literally any mineral deposit and twists it into a shield to protect its fragile core. Refined Copinite ore, known as Copium armour, is highly resilient to fact-based attacks. But if directly exposed to logic it will shatter like glass.
@michitakadouglas4130
@michitakadouglas4130 24 күн бұрын
No it wasn't blessed that's why.
@thanakornkhumon7365
@thanakornkhumon7365 24 күн бұрын
What crazy is that some expert and analyst immediatly claim that tank is now obsolete or not that useful when they saw Abrams destroy that so quickly and they panic so hard. idk what did they expect in conventional war for tank
@robcanisto8635
@robcanisto8635 24 күн бұрын
American decision makers have forgotten what it's like to fight an actual war that isn't "counterinsurgency" against impoverished, malnourished dudes with flip flops and small arms that were manufactured during the Reagan presidency lmao
@D64nz
@D64nz 23 күн бұрын
Realists will say, it's a war and tanks will be destroyed, and that's very true. What the west is scared of is people realising that any major war, like the one they want so badly with China, will cost many millions their lives, and unlike the image hollywood sold them, their tanks will blow up just as easily as all the others do. In real terms its nothing, but in propaganda terms for the west, it's a fatal blow.
@user-kj3qg3kv2l
@user-kj3qg3kv2l 23 күн бұрын
Lets see if F16 is game changer as Abrams...
@fartface5172
@fartface5172 22 күн бұрын
I think chieftain might have said it and I agree with him. That tanks will never be obsolete, cuz no matter what, it has a mobile cannon
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 22 күн бұрын
Western "experts" high on their own propaganda.
@irishguy1465
@irishguy1465 24 күн бұрын
They ain't got the Russian bias armor
@AndRei-yc3ti
@AndRei-yc3ti 24 күн бұрын
Nah fam Ukrainian bias is out of control. Good to see someone cover the other side for a change
@lordtritus2261
@lordtritus2261 24 күн бұрын
@@AndRei-yc3ti I think he's talking about a video game.
@rinkashikachi
@rinkashikachi 24 күн бұрын
@@AndRei-yc3ti its a meme from War thunder
@mikedonald2018
@mikedonald2018 24 күн бұрын
@@AndRei-yc3tiit’s not though
@roy1299
@roy1299 24 күн бұрын
Its a meme from war thunder and world of tanks ​@@AndRei-yc3ti
@daxtertalon4
@daxtertalon4 24 күн бұрын
Everyone is an idiot for using a bloody horrible war for bragging rights in a comments section.
@yellowguy7043
@yellowguy7043 24 күн бұрын
yep
@cheekibreeki4638
@cheekibreeki4638 23 күн бұрын
Not my war
@Idk-cz9ms
@Idk-cz9ms 23 күн бұрын
Been like this forever I’ve just chosen not to argue anymore all this death for a now worthless wasteland with no infrastructure
@HIFLY01
@HIFLY01 23 күн бұрын
Guarantee that if KZfaq was around during Alexander the Great era, he'd be roasting his enemies
@RustedCroaker
@RustedCroaker 23 күн бұрын
You're the first in the line
@socktier6334
@socktier6334 24 күн бұрын
Same thing that happens with any other tank in this war. Seen by recon drone and promptly destroyed with fpv drone, atgm or mine. Recon drones that allows you to see the every movement of the enemy has never happened before in a war. It’s no wonder tanks are being destroyed so frequently in this war.
@user-it3ve2bl7j
@user-it3ve2bl7j 24 күн бұрын
How they started talking. )) And recently they said (based on thousands of primitive fakes) that Russian tanks are bad. ))) How quickly and completely the rhetoric of the Westpithecus changes! ))
@___seb3341
@___seb3341 24 күн бұрын
The difference is that in western designs the crew survives when the tank is knocked out while in glorious russia crew gets promoted to kosmonaut ))))
@user-it3ve2bl7j
@user-it3ve2bl7j 24 күн бұрын
@@___seb3341 Another idiot doesn't know about the uselessness of NATO anti-personnel shells. )))
@user-it3ve2bl7j
@user-it3ve2bl7j 24 күн бұрын
@@___seb3341 Another id _ i_ ot doesn't know about the uselessness of NATO anti-personnel shells. )))
@vitortomic
@vitortomic 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, they raise a scout drone 400 meters high and hover, a cloud of dust can be seen kilometers away when an armored vehicle is on the move. Then they send sevral fpv drones.
@majorjakub5180
@majorjakub5180 24 күн бұрын
It is how it is
@weeb3277
@weeb3277 24 күн бұрын
it do how it do
@kiq4767
@kiq4767 23 күн бұрын
​@@Non-finite-Dimensionalityreported for correcting misinformation
@DeadNoob451
@DeadNoob451 23 күн бұрын
@@Non-finite-Dimensionality It do be how it since.
@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 24 күн бұрын
Great video 🙂
@channelasianewterminatexii7594
@channelasianewterminatexii7594 22 күн бұрын
woah hi mat
@2.Cuzzzz
@2.Cuzzzz 22 күн бұрын
Never expected to see you here!
@devildolphin2102
@devildolphin2102 15 күн бұрын
Oh the Russian Propaganda department is here
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 15 күн бұрын
your vids suck.
@bruteboy123
@bruteboy123 5 күн бұрын
​@devildolphin2102 I'm an American citizen and I support Russia.
@reload5817
@reload5817 24 күн бұрын
New video in quite some time
@noble9759
@noble9759 24 күн бұрын
and it's a waste of time
@reload5817
@reload5817 24 күн бұрын
@@noble9759 A waste of time would be looking at all the footage and information that gives u the same conclusion as in the video/something worse due to your skills. It would be a waste, because you can watch this short video. The only problem I have is the kind of click-bait name, but that's not really a problem, as you can understand what the video is from start, so you'd be able to simply close it.
@noble9759
@noble9759 24 күн бұрын
@@reload5817 Jesus christ never waste your time with comments like this ( sorry I'm rude) but like I've seen dozens of places talking about this if it's the first post in awhile this guy has to have like zero idea what to do but I don't know I'm not a youtuber tho
@noble9759
@noble9759 24 күн бұрын
@@reload5817 plus most of these dudes get small details wrong anyways sometimes like bro it's a war. The Abrams being shipped over aren't the best. Like bro why did he have to make this (I am ranting about seeing the same group of youtubers posting the same sort of crap as the other guy it's not entertaining when there's nothing to add. And the news old)
@noble9759
@noble9759 24 күн бұрын
This is my problem with youtube itself 🗣️
@clpfox470
@clpfox470 24 күн бұрын
Maintenance company I +5% to division capture rate
@aidanlouw4274
@aidanlouw4274 15 күн бұрын
Abrams: Has blow up panels to protect the crew from a ammunition explosion Russian: entire Turret blows off after a single hit in the ammunition rack. Russian people: NaTo TaNkS aRe A jOkE
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 15 күн бұрын
sorry, who's tanks are in a exhibit in Kubinka now?
@OGShively
@OGShively 14 күн бұрын
​@@sixmillionisimpossibleNice username btw, really shows the audience that this kind of nonsense plays to. We had a T-90 at a gas station in Louisiana. Sit down.
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 14 күн бұрын
@OGShively >bubba DeMarcus of Brownsville seething about Russians lmao, Sherman really was the good guy.
@jaxonl7810
@jaxonl7810 8 күн бұрын
​@@sixmillionisimpossibleok 2 month old account
@lexchaotica190
@lexchaotica190 24 күн бұрын
Torsion bars are overstressed and collapsed when a tank burns out as well.
@ApolloTheDerg
@ApolloTheDerg 22 күн бұрын
Wait, can these tanks be lifted like a 16 year old with a Silverado?😂
@lexchaotica190
@lexchaotica190 22 күн бұрын
@@ApolloTheDerg Given an active suspension yes.but once burned out the armour and steel has been compromised.
@maurikunnas6266
@maurikunnas6266 24 күн бұрын
You hear stories about the Abrams tanking 100 RPG shots and not being destroyed, but some shitty little drone takes them out ...
@nihluxler1890
@nihluxler1890 24 күн бұрын
Tbf, moderately trained insurgents tend to aim center of mass at the most armored parts, with older RPG warheads, but still… you could absolutely kill one in one shot if you where positioned properly or just got lucky.
@kealeradecal6091
@kealeradecal6091 24 күн бұрын
No rpg rounds can attack from top, that's why. Top part of tanks are vulnerable for tanks created in the 90s and 80s. Just ask t 90 and below
@alispeed5095
@alispeed5095 24 күн бұрын
Legend met reality.
@commieprop
@commieprop 24 күн бұрын
*shitty little drone with RPG on it/
@aleef852
@aleef852 23 күн бұрын
Actually hamas modified rpg took out most modern merkavas. Explain that.
@morowenidi4621
@morowenidi4621 24 күн бұрын
Fpv drones with rpg warheads are crazy scary for tanks. They can hit you in the roof where you got no armor. This war turned into pure attrition war, and i dont fancy chances of smaller industrial power. (unless they get a ton of support every year ofc)
@morowenidi4621
@morowenidi4621 24 күн бұрын
That being said, fpv drones in hand of insurgents are even scarier. Even if they get conquered, i doubt conqueror can hold on to the land without high attrition. Unless they will start using terror tactics themself and decimate population ofc.
@giovannifoulmouth7205
@giovannifoulmouth7205 24 күн бұрын
Ukraine's chances are literally in their allies' hands, no help from NATO = they will surrender in the next 5 years. Enough help from NATO = Putin is cooked.
@militaryanalysis5028
@militaryanalysis5028 24 күн бұрын
those are not just cheap FPV drones but Lancet Anti-tank drones with a powerful Anti-tank warhead (similar to missile) and it does not need to hit the roof, it's enough to hit the vulnerable left or right side which is very vulnerable too
@burningsinner1132
@burningsinner1132 22 күн бұрын
@@morowenidi4621 FPV drones are actually not that hot for terrorists. They require constant uplink during the run, they require full explosive charge to do their work. They got metal to detect, size to be sus and preparation time to pull things off. They can be human shielded against. They can be shot down with shotguns (Guess one weapon of choice for the police). They are easily detectable and they need doubles to get through a simple window. If you need a covert operation, planting charge is better. If you don't care about being covert, throwing charge is better. In fact, something like gammon grenade can be rolled in plastic to be immune to dog/vapor scan detection. If you don't care about being covert and don't care about casualties, car filled with the pop is better. FPV drones are basically first generation ATGMs if they had the tech to actually mount cameras. Slow, capable of complex maneuvers, deadly, main weakness is the meatball operating it. As ATGMs, they are perfect weapons to deny territory. As ATGMs, they are scary, which makes them priority targets which makes their life expectancy extremely short despite all the brag about "remote work". But FPV drone squad looks like pickup truck or ordinary house, so there is not much to show.
@burningsinner1132
@burningsinner1132 22 күн бұрын
@@militaryanalysis5028 Lancet Anti-tank warhead is not actually all that hot. In fact, it's a victim of trying to fill many roles (Because quite often Lancet drones roam like 50km behind enemy lines, so you can't really choose a warhead). As a result, you look at ANCIENT КЗ-6 (Kumulyativny Zaryad 6, Copperjet charge №6). It's actually build like old WW2 Era charges, using 1.8kg of explosives to pierce measly 200mm of RHA. The trick though is that this 200mm hole got the girth of AV actor's primary tool. This one is typically complemented by tail charge, which is typically 000 buck pressed into Kolbasa (UR-77 demining charge section piece). Tail charge explosion is about 3 grenades strong, but less frags. Reliably turns light vehicles into frags though, with thin liners not helping.
@wotanscry1594
@wotanscry1594 23 күн бұрын
So what we see survivability of Leopard 2 is indeed the best among all tanks western or eastern alike. Good Armor in combination with the best chioces are made for ammo storage ! It was critisised over and over again for having still a big ammo storage in the hull. But as it turns out it is the better option. So Abrams has virtualy all ammo in his Turret behind a door. OK. But it has 42 rounds of ammo there. Leopard has 15. So even in case of ammo going of in the turret (considering bulkhead closed in both cases) on Leopard it is 15 rounds burning. Abrams cooking of is 42 rounds . So triple the amount of Leopard 2. Thats also tripple the energy stored there. And that fire WILL burn its way either in the turret through that bulkhead or the enginedeck below. Thats the tanks complete inventory of ammo placed just in the highest point of the tank. it was always a weakspot. In the Bundeswehr it was known that that ammostorage is going to get hit . Nobody thought about drones back then but artillery was a concern. So in Leopard the biggest amount of ammo is cosiderably protected by heavy frontal armor and heavy sideskirts. It was always the better choice. Fast foward to today and exactly this Spot in the hull makes it virtually unreachable by drones. it would need literaly a top attack heavy warhead dronebomb to the drivers hull to have achance to set it of. All other angles are not possible for a drone to set the ammo off. On Abrams they put the all the ammo on the highest point and one does not just put all his ammo on the highest point on a tank and expect it to last. The soviets had kind of the right idea with their ammo storage but execution is bad as ukraine conflikt proves day by day.
@JhonELT
@JhonELT 24 күн бұрын
There isnt an invincible weapons system, western tanks get destroyed in ukraine because they have huge bounties on their heads, as soon as they are spotted elite drone teams are dispatched to take them out, remember that russia is paying good money to soldiers who destroy these tanks. The other thing to remember is that ukraine doesnt haver air superiority or air support for its armored units, soldiers in this war say that there are hundreds of drones buzzing around, even the best tanks are going to be destroyed if they face 3 or 4 drones. Finally, ukraine has lost western tanks yeah, but russia has lost a lot of t80 and t90 tanks that are usually sold by russia as better than leopard, strv, challenger or abrams.
23 күн бұрын
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@hansshekelstein9450
@hansshekelstein9450 23 күн бұрын
This should more be a point that Soviet MBTs aren’t bad because they get destroyed, same with here how a western MBT isnt somehow bad because it got destroyed.
@ulforcemegamon3094
@ulforcemegamon3094 22 күн бұрын
It doesn't helps that most western MBT were designed with air superiority in mind , meaning that without it they aren't performing as well as they should, meanwhile Russian tanks were designed without air superiority in mind (aka is better to have it , but it can work without it) , so them not having air superiority either doesn't affect them as much
@MlLKMAN
@MlLKMAN 22 күн бұрын
​@@ulforcemegamon3094you mean that russian tanks are better as long as it's not you getting burned alive in one.
@weeb3277
@weeb3277 24 күн бұрын
didn't Ukrainians take them off the battlefield recently because they were too heavy and were getting stuck in the mud? or is it because they were losing them too fast?
@y0h0p38
@y0h0p38 24 күн бұрын
Don't quote me on this, but they are being used more as a pseudo artillery right now, they don't want to lose them, and don't have huge stocks to tanks to send to front lines. Handheld AT is too common on both sides for any tank sent to the front to survive realistically
@andrews.5212
@andrews.5212 24 күн бұрын
It's because the Abrahams were soo good the russian have already retreated to Moscow.. is not like the russians are laughing at nafo tanks stuck in the mud loke a bunch of horny stepsisters
@b-17gflyingfortress6
@b-17gflyingfortress6 24 күн бұрын
Both, there are more Leo2 losses than Chal 2 and Abrams since they have more of them thus more expendable
@MarktheRude
@MarktheRude 24 күн бұрын
Probably both. Obviously they are way too heavy, as are virtually every other vehicle during the mud-season.
@Botseries
@Botseries 24 күн бұрын
they took off a whole brigade which fought on the front line for a year straight and that brigade happened to be the one which had abrams tanks. its just coinsidence which was used by russian propaganda.
@sharoyveduchi
@sharoyveduchi 24 күн бұрын
/k/opers made a thread about how "only 4" tanks were lost and a few days later it got up to 7. In that same thread they made some silly comparison to how many Russian tanks were lost when they should really be asking why those nations could only collectively muster 31 tanks. Those 31 aren't gonna last forever
@constitutionalist6817
@constitutionalist6817 24 күн бұрын
such a waste and butthole in chief will STILL send more...
@BlackMetalVengeance
@BlackMetalVengeance 24 күн бұрын
The /k/oping was so bad since the start of the war that I never went back there. It was no different than Reddit.
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 24 күн бұрын
notice how they never bring up the russian tanks lost are last gens given to the donbass MILITIA and not the russian army proper. They don't make that distinction because they're intellectually and morally dishonest.
@Keckegenkai
@Keckegenkai 24 күн бұрын
@@BlackMetalVengeance you jsut got bullied lol
@joaomiguelmoreira6363
@joaomiguelmoreira6363 24 күн бұрын
Its fucking embarrising that the collective west only managed to awnser russias efforts in tank production and refurbishment with fucking 31 Abrams (disregarding the leopards ofc)
@notreeceridings
@notreeceridings 24 күн бұрын
If there is enough info available, could you make a video covering the leopard 1s that were sent to Ukraine and the variants. I haven't been able to find much on them, only that they're in Ukraine.
@__MaReX__
@__MaReX__ 24 күн бұрын
theyve prolly been used as artilery
@qrstw
@qrstw 24 күн бұрын
Most were heaps of unusable garbage that Ukraine sent back...
@thulomanchay
@thulomanchay 24 күн бұрын
Are any Leopards left? Challengers are in the rear. Abrams are being taken off the battlefield. Leclercs are ... not off the table.
@Juzevs
@Juzevs 24 күн бұрын
@@thulomanchay ukraine is slowly but surely becoming a top tier warthunder match that doesnt end
@ArchOfficial
@ArchOfficial 24 күн бұрын
They're probably in the north border allowing actually useful assets to be moved east. They're likely doing nothing.
@HARRAWISH
@HARRAWISH 24 күн бұрын
i feel like western media forgot abrams/ leopards/ challengers are tanks too and they arent invincible
@phishphood423
@phishphood423 24 күн бұрын
No one called them invincible.
@evilnigga68
@evilnigga68 24 күн бұрын
@@phishphood423 people like to act as if they're invincible though (do not ask me to cite)
@paulwilson8061
@paulwilson8061 24 күн бұрын
@@phishphood423they called them game changers. This cargo cult still goes on with f-16. In the first days of war they prayed on bayraktar.
@user-it3ve2bl7j
@user-it3ve2bl7j 24 күн бұрын
@@phishphood423 LOL. I have been hearing about their invulnerability and invincibility for 20-30 years. )))
@y0h0p38
@y0h0p38 24 күн бұрын
@@paulwilson8061 Sure, Ukraine has kind of hid their tanks, but at the current rate of losses, Ukraine has tanks for years. A couple Abrams being taken out vs around 140 T-90 series tanks taken out is a big difference. Especially when there are far more sep v2s than T-90s, and sep v3s than T-14s
@thesleekgreek
@thesleekgreek 24 күн бұрын
30 tanks was never going to make a difference. Seriously - it was a joke! 30? Seriously
@georgesimon2730
@georgesimon2730 24 күн бұрын
Would nothing be preferable?
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 23 күн бұрын
@@georgesimon2730 kinda, do you keep funding a war or do you force one side to give in. This isn't an extermination, just land capture.
@thesleekgreek
@thesleekgreek 23 күн бұрын
When America got Ukraine to hand over their nuclear weapons to Russia, and promised to protect them, half hearted aid packages and old tanks with the best part of its armour removed isn’t them holding up their end of the deal. Ukraine came to americas aid when they were ruining everything in the Middle East, they didn’t have to!
@youmad7068
@youmad7068 22 күн бұрын
It is not just 30 Abrams tanks. So far they received: 31 Abrams, 80 Leopard-2 (more to come), 88 Leopard-1s (more to come), 14 Challenger-2s, more then 300 Polish T72s and PT91s, 194 T72s from Czechs, 23 T72s from Macedonia and Morocco,15 T-72 supplied by Denmark and Netherlands, 30 AMX-10 from France, 28 M55S from Slovenia... They received more tanks than most European nation have in their inventory
@lightningstrike5024
@lightningstrike5024 21 күн бұрын
@@youmad7068 how many abrams have been knocked out total now?
@zelosmiman5533
@zelosmiman5533 24 күн бұрын
Can I ask you whats the music you use in the closer of the videos ? Its fire.
@TRPilot06YT
@TRPilot06YT 24 күн бұрын
Svard - Face Away
@ThePsiclone
@ThePsiclone 24 күн бұрын
dude, it's literally in the description!
@mw9297
@mw9297 24 күн бұрын
Abrams are so tough. Real piece of art.
@ispeaku759
@ispeaku759 24 күн бұрын
You've made four mistakes in the word "crap"
@michaelthayer5351
@michaelthayer5351 24 күн бұрын
I'm not sure why anyone expected the same brigade that kept driving their Leopard 2s over minefields wouldn't get the Abrams sideshot by ATGMs.
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 22 күн бұрын
They were trained by people who told them to just go around minefields. The conclusion was inevitable.
@ericquiabazza2608
@ericquiabazza2608 23 күн бұрын
There is several aspect to concider here: -The video of russian moving the second tank , the good one could be old, kept under wraps until needed or riskis low enough. - the first one was just an empty shell. Ending up in the expo. The good one was disassemble and study, thus the silence on it. So watever happened to it was left to russia and nato spies. BUT, my guess is that it WAS analize. Why? Because months later we got drones precision strike Abram rear an neutralize them with a mere SIGLE drone. The termo video is A clear examle, and the forest one confirms it by precision.
@lugados4001
@lugados4001 24 күн бұрын
Red is probably right about the leo2 at 6.43 couse we can't see side armour, upper frontal plate is on a whole diffrent level than track covers, and the side of the turret is very flat plus there probalby is no turret basket like on most abrams (if im wrong correct me bc it's the only evidance that i could find in this image)
@lfraser7128
@lfraser7128 24 күн бұрын
The most wild thing is the footage coming out of people climbing on and in the burned out tanks, even when on display. FYI, don’t ever do that, even these ones don’t have uranium on board, all tanks have plenty of heavy metals and chemicals you don’t want to breath
@boocomban
@boocomban 24 күн бұрын
They properly have more potential threats to their life more than breathing heavy metal...
@ulooqulg
@ulooqulg 24 күн бұрын
So sitting n breathing in trench /basement of a totally bombed out flatten area s not higher risk?...
@lfraser7128
@lfraser7128 24 күн бұрын
@@boocomban I was more talking about the videos when they were on display in Moscow
@robincray116
@robincray116 24 күн бұрын
If it is really that dangerous the US probably shouldn't let their own soldiers touch it. If the burnt out husk is so dangerous imagine the toxic metal risks for those repairing these things, all the welding and grinding...
@lfraser7128
@lfraser7128 24 күн бұрын
@@robincray116 you do realize that their is a difference between welding fumes, and an uncontrolled ammunition fire, right? Also theirs pretty strict regulations on ppe, and osha surrounding the construction of these. As for general use, you know fire chemically alters stuff, and makes previously contained stuff, well un contained.
@kilosierraalpha
@kilosierraalpha 24 күн бұрын
They got BUCK-BROKEN.
@joeshamrock9646
@joeshamrock9646 24 күн бұрын
Reverse mutt's law.
@electroshock5501
@electroshock5501 23 күн бұрын
Hey Redeffect could you do a video on the T-55AGM tank / Tifon2a? I’ve been curious and looking at info about it but sources of info are few and pretty much say the same thing.
@SDZ675
@SDZ675 24 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the time in Warthunder where you just get revenged by drones.
@Jungle_Studio
@Jungle_Studio 18 күн бұрын
me having RWR and smoking when i realise a pesky drone is locked onto me sending a hellfire or some beam guided atgm at me
@velvetthundr
@velvetthundr 24 күн бұрын
You’ve given us the best unbiased coverage and the juiciest details of this war. You’re the best RedEffect! It’s been awhile since your last upload but it has been worth the wait!
@alvinpakpahan5519
@alvinpakpahan5519 23 күн бұрын
Remember that british challenger survived hundreds of rpg and got 1 hit by kornet
@alexdunphy3716
@alexdunphy3716 23 күн бұрын
I think in the end it was actually only hit by 7 rpg warheads but alot of them were fragmentation warheads
@sert87
@sert87 22 күн бұрын
It's like medieval chronicles "the knights fought valiantly, each took on 60 foes"
@christians.597
@christians.597 2 күн бұрын
Kornet is much more powerful, not many tank ( especially older model ) could withstand a kornet
@darylshort2729
@darylshort2729 22 күн бұрын
Are these export Abrams with the reduced armor or domestic Abrams with the good armor? I'm guessing the former, but I don't know.
@exoticdachoo007
@exoticdachoo007 15 күн бұрын
They're the base M1 tanks I believe, so just the basic Abrams without the new shiny technology. The Abrams's armor stayed the same through the years so it wouldn't really change much if it was the most modern one either, even the ones with depleted uranium would get annihilated by drones or ATGMs anyway.
@trexgamer1132
@trexgamer1132 23 күн бұрын
6:50, it's a Leopard 2A4, the turret cheeks are only angled along one axis and the sides of the turret have no angle to them, there is also no storage on the sides of the turret and only storage on the rear of the turret which is something more common with Leopard 2A4's.
@trexgamer1132
@trexgamer1132 23 күн бұрын
Could just be the lighting that's throwing me off tho.
@subjectc7505
@subjectc7505 24 күн бұрын
I don't know why, but the Abrams looks like it stunk or the MBT-70 lol
@gilangputra7514
@gilangputra7514 24 күн бұрын
I remember they took some data from the MBT 70 test
@kienngo4601
@kienngo4601 23 күн бұрын
Quickly. Catch that interior vid to see if it has a spallliner or not to end the damn debate in WT. XD
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 24 күн бұрын
they were collecting 1 piece of each vehicle for park before may 9th. everything else is for testing but i suppose they are not in hurry for that.
@CosmicValkyrie
@CosmicValkyrie 22 күн бұрын
They know basically everything about western equipment. But studying the current variants in the field is valuable to some degree.
@Slav_boi
@Slav_boi 10 күн бұрын
Hey Just discovered your channel a hour ago,as i can see its pretty cool and into tanks,and as a tank lover,i subcribed. Says on your channel that location is croatia,i speak croatian...so thats cool
@antonyvalverde437
@antonyvalverde437 24 күн бұрын
A comparative analysis of the Bradley and the Terminator would be interesting, I haven't seen an appearance of the Russian vehicle for a long time, while the Bradley seems to be still effective against tanks.
@Mandrak789
@Mandrak789 24 күн бұрын
Afaik there was only a small number of Terminators and Russian army actually did not like them, so it may be a reason why we're not seeing them lately.
@MaxCroat
@MaxCroat 24 күн бұрын
@@Mandrak789 Yeah as far as I understand there were only like 10 or 20. Besides, it is not really comparable to the Bradley, as it does not carry troops and is purely designed for fire support. It also has much heavier armor, since it is basically a tank with a different turret and armament.
@subjectc7505
@subjectc7505 24 күн бұрын
Terminator was made for urban combat and Russia doesn't support its armor with IFVs so I'm guessing since it's a valuable asset, they limit the usage.
@Anton-cg7og
@Anton-cg7og 24 күн бұрын
Terminator is not an IFV like Bradley, it's a tank support vehicle.
@subjectc7505
@subjectc7505 24 күн бұрын
​@@Mandrak789Pretty such they like them, it's not made for this conflict.
@tomshepard9050
@tomshepard9050 24 күн бұрын
So lemme get this straight, the tanks were disabled, crews ran off, and THEN destroyed by missiles from drones when it's empty? Why? Why not recover the tank when it's less damaged
@renegaderu5126
@renegaderu5126 24 күн бұрын
Let's put you in an Abrams or a T90. You will leave the tank after the first arrival of the drone. This happens all the time - the vehicles is a target for the FPV if it is without a crew. If she is with the crew, then the chance of being hit increases many times.
@jonumine6250
@jonumine6250 24 күн бұрын
It's so the enemy doesn't attempt to recover it first. If it's more damaged, the higher the chances the enemy gives up on trying to recover it. Or maybe the FPV guy didn't have the idea they were going to capture it in the first place, but that being the case, no one would double tap any tank and risk the enemy recovering it instead.
@kalamar_from_slovakia
@kalamar_from_slovakia 24 күн бұрын
they cant always get to them and recover them before the enemy recovers them... so they usually try to destroy them completly so even if the enemy gets to them first they cant use them again... also as the other guy said, the crew usually runs off after the first hit... and it takes a while probably for other fpv drones to get there so by the time they are ready to hit the tank again the crew already ran off
@tomshepard9050
@tomshepard9050 24 күн бұрын
@@kalamar_from_slovakia it means the abrams aint a mystery to the Russian. So there should never be no excuses for War Thunder to not being able to model the armour properly
@marinhaalternativa3829
@marinhaalternativa3829 24 күн бұрын
They would get them back in the cover of the night
@pierresoldat
@pierresoldat 23 күн бұрын
@RedEffect do you know which abram is one the red place?
@CMDRFandragon
@CMDRFandragon 24 күн бұрын
Honestly that Abrams in the treeline, looks more like the bustle storage on the back of the turret is burning and not the blow out panels. same with the thermal camera tank......the crew stores their bedding and other crap on the rack in the rear of the turret and well, id guess thats easily burned up....
@juusolatva
@juusolatva 24 күн бұрын
the US lost several M1 Abrams (sometimes with casualties) during the Iraq War to IEDs, RPGs and EFPs, so it's not wholly surprising to see some losses in Ukraine as well against more advanced weapons, although an insurgency in Iraq and a conventional war between two (near-)peers in Ukraine are two very different things.
@ZOV-Lancet
@ZOV-Lancet 24 күн бұрын
Thing is, those are not counted among losses in order to bolster numbesr. Same thing with the "flawless" F-15 with its 104 confirmed kills and 200+ losses that "don't count" Really, any time USA is involved in a conflict they try really hard to play the numbers game as if it's a k:d ratio on a video game. They will attribute every single enemy loss to USA, even when it's just locals or irregulars fighting under US command, but none of those people get counted as losses for USA if they become casualties under their command. Go ahead and check, the USA claims they did not lose a single Abrams, they were all self-destructs which "don't count", or people fighting under the USA and not Americans so it "doesn't count".
@vovin8132
@vovin8132 24 күн бұрын
The real difference is that the militants in Iraq were unable to follow up in destroying those disabled tanks, while the Russians are doing exactly that. In fact, the Russians have at times intentionally waited for engineer tanks to arrive to destroy those at the same time.
@preludeh22a57
@preludeh22a57 24 күн бұрын
@@ZOV-Lancet same story with US Vietnam war time air loses, when jets were officially downed by "engine failure" or "control loss", not clarifying that this very engine failure or control loss occurred due to a missile hit
@thulomanchay
@thulomanchay 24 күн бұрын
@@vovin8132 There were a number of Abrams destroyed by friendly fire, and those disabled were destroyed to prevent them from falling into Iraqis hands.
@ArchOfficial
@ArchOfficial 24 күн бұрын
No M1s have been lost to enemy action until 2023. All of the ones in Iraq were fully operational but were demolished by BLUFOR.
@SnlDrako
@SnlDrako 24 күн бұрын
What's the heating value of Western Added Value? Is it comparable to the turret-launching potential of the rusviet putiniun?
@shuathe2nd
@shuathe2nd 23 күн бұрын
Will you do an analysis of all 138 T-90's up on Oryx so far?
@subz779
@subz779 22 күн бұрын
Oryx- cnn, ucro propaganda which counts Eu/Ua destroyed tanks as Russian 🤣🤣🤣
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 24 күн бұрын
Piranha FPV drone now in the history books as the "Abrams killer"
@caracallaavg
@caracallaavg 24 күн бұрын
Nobody cares
@ZOV-Lancet
@ZOV-Lancet 24 күн бұрын
@@caracallaavg Cope and seethe.
@Anarcho-harambeism
@Anarcho-harambeism 24 күн бұрын
​@@ZOV-Lancethas lancet in the name, ok runz bot,now cope at how your tanks don't let the crew survive when hit
@alb9229
@alb9229 24 күн бұрын
​@@Anarcho-harambeism You can literally see at 5:00 crew of the Trashbrams burned laying on the side and it's not the only one . Seeth and cope some harder princess 😂
@joaomiguelmoreira6363
@joaomiguelmoreira6363 24 күн бұрын
​@@Anarcho-harambeism Lmao says the guy with "Anarcho" in his name. Cant wait for you to find out what models represent the vast majority of you Super NAFO Ukrainska Armiya's tank force...
@shanerooney7288
@shanerooney7288 24 күн бұрын
"Nah Uh, these tanks don't count"
@oleksii000
@oleksii000 24 күн бұрын
Huh? These tanks count, they are saving the crew way better than those ruzki satellite launchers. And especially since Ukrainians lost only 10 tanks in a year, like is that the “2nd strongest army in the world?”, hunting them real hard to show how obsolete they are but managed to destroy only 10 in 12 months?
@dwarow2508
@dwarow2508 24 күн бұрын
@@oleksii000 Lmfao Russian tanks are actually saving the crew way better unlike those westoid satellite launchers. And especially since Ukrainians lost over 70% of their tanks in a week while Russia hasn't even lost 10% in 2 years. Like is that not the 2nd strongest army in the world? Hunting them real hard to show how obsolete they are but but managed to only destroy 10% in 2 years while losing 70% in 1 week?
@shanerooney7288
@shanerooney7288 24 күн бұрын
🎣 Too easy.
@dwarow2508
@dwarow2508 24 күн бұрын
@@oleksii000 Cope harder lmfao. Those 90% NATO tank losses in 2 weeks vs 10% Russian tank losses in 2 years clearly tell us who makes better tanks lol0
@avex3903
@avex3903 24 күн бұрын
@@oleksii000 yeah according to you they lost 10 tanks in a year but thats the point if ukraine brought only 10 tanks to the front they all got destroyed you know how many t tanks ukraine got from other countries ? you know they fake some of their t tank lossses and claim them as russians with their photoshop brigade 🤫
@user-yr9ud8sl6s
@user-yr9ud8sl6s 24 күн бұрын
There may already be a solution for the drone threat with the Iron Fist countermeasure.
@darrencorrigan8505
@darrencorrigan8505 21 күн бұрын
Thanks, RedEffect.
@AlexRoivas
@AlexRoivas 23 күн бұрын
There is nothing wrong with Abrams. Modern ATGMs will disable any western tank with 1 hit. Mines will disable the tracks of any tank that goes over them. The difference between Western and Soviet/Russian tanks is that an ATGM will disable the Western tank and the crew will at least have a chance to escape but in a soviet/Russian the chance of a catastrophic explosion because the ammunition inside the tank is hit with the ATGM means the crew has no chance to survive. Every single tank made as of now has no drone top attack protection since this is a brand new type of warfare. All tanks are made to defeat front direct hits from another tanks to various degrees. Brand new tanks will be have to made that take account of drone top attacks.
@hansshekelstein9450
@hansshekelstein9450 23 күн бұрын
Not entirely true. A top attack hit from a javelin type system will likely kill the entire crew. Same as a soviet model. Sure the Soviet crew has less survivability than a modern NATO tank, but that is a tradeoff for size. A soviet style tank is much smaller and lighter for the same protection because of the autoloader. There is a pretty decent chance a Soviet tank will not be seen as easily as a western one.
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 22 күн бұрын
Nothing wrong except excessive fuel usage, weight and constant need of maintenance. Even ukrainians said many times how they disliked Abrams for how picky the machine is. Until higher ups issued an order to never speak anything bad about "game changers".
@TenebrusI07
@TenebrusI07 22 күн бұрын
@@hansshekelstein9450 Thats an absolutely ridiculous statement in this current year with the masses of thermal gear soldiers can have. It's a worthless assertation with the accuracy of ATGMs, drones and guided artillery.
@GrindThunderer
@GrindThunderer 21 күн бұрын
@@kindlingkingsource? Russia today 😂
@n8zog584
@n8zog584 21 күн бұрын
​@@kindlingking the Abrams is not picky about the fuel it takes. The complaint I have personally heard about them is that they need more fuel than the lighter smaller Russian tanks. Also they get stuck in mud (a little) more easily.
@mbtenjoyer9487
@mbtenjoyer9487 24 күн бұрын
For Ukraine 200 T-series tank is better than 20 Abrams
@RasyidNazar
@RasyidNazar 23 күн бұрын
Since they already familiar with it, and quantity is important
@Vandelberger
@Vandelberger 23 күн бұрын
Yes and no. Say that Ukraine had 200 Abrams, that is probably equal to 1,000 T-90s in force multiplier as seen in Iraq War. There is also the manpower saving and survivability of Western designs.
@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE1
@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE1 23 күн бұрын
​@@VandelbergerIraq never had T90M lmao
@Vandelberger
@Vandelberger 23 күн бұрын
@@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE1 Bro, if you think a T-90, with its limited protection for crew, NO NIGHT vision as stock electronics nor the ability shoot while driving at full speed… lmao it’s not even a comparison.
@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE1
@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE1 23 күн бұрын
@@Vandelberger You realize Iraq never had T90 only T55 T62 and T72. Also the M variant is similar to SEP 3.
@matttisdale7606
@matttisdale7606 18 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for this excellent analysis
@GordonJordanGJ4797
@GordonJordanGJ4797 24 күн бұрын
what's the song of your outro?
@wzr3293
@wzr3293 23 күн бұрын
muh freebrams is now a jailedbrams
@dogethe1st725
@dogethe1st725 24 күн бұрын
nice vid
@spider1g76
@spider1g76 23 күн бұрын
Anybody notice how thin the number 1 and 2 skirts are??? It's not a deal breaker but one must wonder what else was removed/ replaced? The gunners station on the inside looks modified as well.
@The_Crimson_Fucker
@The_Crimson_Fucker 22 күн бұрын
It surprises me that people would think that the blow-out panels would stop the tank from burning at all. There are some _very_ famous pictures of burned out M1s, at least one of those was destroyed because external cargo stowage caught fire.
@cordellmohawk8408
@cordellmohawk8408 24 күн бұрын
Didn't live up to the hype they made it
@ArchOfficial
@ArchOfficial 24 күн бұрын
Really? A battalion of M1s have not been lost yet and they have caused losses of hundreds of PCs and MBTs.
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 23 күн бұрын
@@ArchOfficial in ukraine, yeah no.
@ArchOfficial
@ArchOfficial 23 күн бұрын
@@tarektechmarine8209 The M1 has had more combat success in Ukraine than it has had in its entire history before Ukraine, including Desert Storm.
@cordellmohawk8408
@cordellmohawk8408 23 күн бұрын
@@ArchOfficial Where the proof
@vanjamenadzer
@vanjamenadzer 23 күн бұрын
@@ArchOfficial What are you bs-ing about? As soon as it was deployed, it got wrecked. And it continued to happen almost every time they were spotted. Abrams has no value on UA soil as it's slow, heavy, loud, hot, takes too much fuel to operate etc... Even 300 units wouldn't matter. Especially not since UA army is apparently allergic to FPV drone protection aka cope cage.
@ulooqulg
@ulooqulg 24 күн бұрын
These Abrams are being used as 'FireBrigade'.. running up n down the lines, lobbing shell.like an self propelled howitzer.. danggg..
@TheBikeOnTheMoon
@TheBikeOnTheMoon 24 күн бұрын
I think the one with all the stuff that's still functional were towed back to the lab where they could examine the equipment so it couldn't be put it on display yet.
@johnharrison6745
@johnharrison6745 24 күн бұрын
I'm more curious about what weapons those F.P.V. drones were using, and, what the best countermeasures for them would be.
@Sunshine-sl3kr
@Sunshine-sl3kr 24 күн бұрын
Lamp of knowledge ammunition used in Russian FPV Drones
@Sunshine-sl3kr
@Sunshine-sl3kr 24 күн бұрын
look it up, video is in russian but the YT subtitles work great
@kencollins6324
@kencollins6324 23 күн бұрын
An anti HEAT cage and as much EW gear that you can cram into and onto your tank seem to be the current trend.
@concilium1
@concilium1 24 күн бұрын
Crew survivability is key. No tank is immune to mobility kills.
@lek8630
@lek8630 23 күн бұрын
copium
@aynersolderingworks7009
@aynersolderingworks7009 23 күн бұрын
@@lek8630Ukrainian crews go back to combat, Russian crew get sent to space lmao
@RocketPal
@RocketPal 23 күн бұрын
@@lek8630more like truth but whatever
@RocketPal
@RocketPal 23 күн бұрын
@@aynersolderingworks7009yep
@Sausageman257
@Sausageman257 22 күн бұрын
​@@RustedCroakerI agree
@2dhistory197
@2dhistory197 24 күн бұрын
i don't expect the western nations to call these things "Game Changers" after what happened to it in ukraine
@Mandrak789
@Mandrak789 24 күн бұрын
No one serious called them game changers. They are just very good tanks, but tanks nonetheless. And far too few were delivered to make an impact. Ukraine would need at least 500 and got, how many? 30 or so?
@geesehoward700
@geesehoward700 24 күн бұрын
Russia loses how many thousand tanks but Ukraine loses a few Abrams and now they are all useless? I wonder how well the modern ones do with air support....
@shanerooney7288
@shanerooney7288 24 күн бұрын
"Nuh Uh, none of the losses in Ukraine count because...."
@Keckegenkai
@Keckegenkai 24 күн бұрын
himars was/is a game changer. not even a discussion
@hourbee5535
@hourbee5535 24 күн бұрын
Ukrainians and the sensationalist media called them game changers. Everyone else with any sense knew otherwise.
@nikolaradovic8067
@nikolaradovic8067 22 күн бұрын
Damn bro 200k subs? Congrats
@azorahai7837
@azorahai7837 23 күн бұрын
As someone said somewhere else, anyone can know everything about Abrams through war-thunder already.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 24 күн бұрын
I don't think there is a whole bunch they can learn from a 40 year old tank.
@2prize
@2prize 21 күн бұрын
but they're ggame changers
@maxwellmaragia2272
@maxwellmaragia2272 23 күн бұрын
Upto this point no single Russian tank has been destroyed by any NATO tank lmao. Bradley disabling t-90 don't count as a kill
@domonkosszabo398
@domonkosszabo398 21 күн бұрын
Destroying all optics, disabling the turret, and immobilizing the tank doesn't count as a kill? Cope harder
@durndychris3254
@durndychris3254 16 күн бұрын
Abrams was disabled from the outside but intact from the inside then??
@Giganibba511
@Giganibba511 15 күн бұрын
​@@domonkosszabo398 well considering 3 drones hit and 2 Bradley's and yet crew escaped and tank survived No. I would give it to the drones
@domonkosszabo398
@domonkosszabo398 15 күн бұрын
@@Giganibba511 Tank didn't survive. It was disabled and knocked out by Bradleys, and burned down by drones after. Kill still goes to the Bradley's crew
@Giganibba511
@Giganibba511 15 күн бұрын
@@domonkosszabo398 tank did survive and crew also it got only disabled. Who cares about what happened after that lol
@BigBruh47
@BigBruh47 24 күн бұрын
Where challenger 2 videos at?
@aligmal5031
@aligmal5031 23 күн бұрын
crazy how we started from how scary tanks was in WW1 ( watch the tank scene from all quiet on the eastern front movie) to now this where drones can just clap almost any tank now
@BorisershovTimur-ig4ih
@BorisershovTimur-ig4ih 23 күн бұрын
I went there yesterday got some pictures
@BorisershovTimur-ig4ih
@BorisershovTimur-ig4ih 23 күн бұрын
The exhibit
@MlLKMAN
@MlLKMAN 22 күн бұрын
Kissing it brings you good luck 👍
@renegaderu5126
@renegaderu5126 24 күн бұрын
Are there any mistakes in their usage? Maybe a look from this side would be interesting.
@azrael9016
@azrael9016 24 күн бұрын
he already made a video about it with abrams commander where he interviewed him about this, video is from like a month ago
@renegaderu5126
@renegaderu5126 24 күн бұрын
@@azrael9016 yes, I watched it, but since then, firstly, something could have changed, secondly, I did not really like that video, it seemed to me that there was too much human evaluation, plus with an emphasis on older conflicts.
@cleoarchwhiza9006
@cleoarchwhiza9006 24 күн бұрын
These tanks are up against opponent with much higher capability, thats all there is to it.
@azrael9016
@azrael9016 24 күн бұрын
@@renegaderu5126 nothing much could have change for 1 month... emphasis on older conflicts is how every army operates, they evaluate their older conflicts (latest one they had preferably) and behavior of their enemy and adapt in that way.
@RustedCroaker
@RustedCroaker 23 күн бұрын
The main mistake in using them is that they dragged Russia into this perfectly avoidable conflict.
@EnclaveChad
@EnclaveChad 23 күн бұрын
Where do you get those videos you use?
@sushimuncher282
@sushimuncher282 22 күн бұрын
Abrams going through that Hector experience in Troy (post-duel).
@Lemosa3414
@Lemosa3414 24 күн бұрын
Game changer guys
@phishphood423
@phishphood423 24 күн бұрын
shush. no one serious and knowledgeable thought Abrams would do any better against FPV drones and mines. it did however not explode catastrophically, something which most T series tanks cannot relate to.
@user-yj8vj3sq6j
@user-yj8vj3sq6j 24 күн бұрын
@@phishphood423 >no one serious and knowledgeable thought Abrams would do any better against FPV drones and mines how many of serious and knowledgeable persons you know on the interwebs?
@B83N
@B83N 24 күн бұрын
@@phishphood423 It did it's job, keeping the crew alive.
@avex3903
@avex3903 24 күн бұрын
@@phishphood423 its funny now you say this you were propably one of those that said russians will run when they see western tanks 🤭
@stephenallen4635
@stephenallen4635 24 күн бұрын
@@avex3903 I dont think they were
@kskeel1124
@kskeel1124 24 күн бұрын
The crew may have gotten out of the Abrams but has it ever been confirmed that they survived and escaped?🤔
@Vandelberger
@Vandelberger 23 күн бұрын
Yes, the crew have active social media.
@ruskibot7745
@ruskibot7745 23 күн бұрын
@@Vandelberger Which ones because for at least one of them they got turned to dust by an artillery strike right after they bailed
@mikes989
@mikes989 23 күн бұрын
in the video of the first destroyed Abrams only 3 crew exit the burning tank, and burning themselves, rolling int the ground
@Vandelberger
@Vandelberger 22 күн бұрын
@@ruskibot7745 Well I am talking about 9 / 10 tank crews who survive egress from the vehicle. It isn't the tank's fault if they die after they leave the vehicle.
@sturmpanzer0473
@sturmpanzer0473 24 күн бұрын
which abrams it is at 5:10 ?
@K-SHABAB
@K-SHABAB 24 күн бұрын
Congratulations in advance for 200k❤
@Azrael1st
@Azrael1st 21 күн бұрын
Game changer weapons
@churblefurbles
@churblefurbles 23 күн бұрын
Russia doesn't show all their cards.
@Stebetto3
@Stebetto3 18 күн бұрын
russia has lost about 500k men now. But hey. They don't tell it.
@Giganibba511
@Giganibba511 15 күн бұрын
​@@Stebetto3 source? And even with air superiority and artillery advantages and still has more losses than Ukraine? I call it BS
@cdwell1
@cdwell1 24 күн бұрын
Can anyone explain to me why these tanks are all by themselves when they get taken out? Shouldn't there be supporting vehicles and infantry to help prevent a lot of this from happening, or am i mistaken? Where are the mine plows and such as welll?
@ivankrylov6270
@ivankrylov6270 23 күн бұрын
Next applique armor that comes out has to effectively protect the tracks
@petermikus2363
@petermikus2363 24 күн бұрын
5:08 i'd reckon they either got attacked while transporting it or kept it for testing and so on choosing to show of the destroyed abrams instead. Also showing a charred Abrams would be better propaganda Imho, as some peple tout them as these miracle machines.
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 24 күн бұрын
You know the folks who got hold of it shot at it a few times with whatever AT weapon they had ... Soldiers being soldiers.
@pinkyfull
@pinkyfull 24 күн бұрын
Only fools who don't know that all armoured vehicles are vulnerable regardless of where they are who built them or when.
@dhanu_4539
@dhanu_4539 24 күн бұрын
Nah , the more intact the tank is, the better. Those a collectibles and the russian tank museum would kill to get their hands on a running Abrams
@muslim4039
@muslim4039 24 күн бұрын
Rededffeecccttttt yeeraaahhhhhhh
@Tommyinoz1971
@Tommyinoz1971 23 күн бұрын
How did the drone blow off the wheels tracks?
@kakakiri2601
@kakakiri2601 22 күн бұрын
When you pay golden eagle to buy premium abrams and end up in high rank br game
@torukmahtomahto409
@torukmahtomahto409 24 күн бұрын
at least, the british doesn;t allowed to use Ch2 in combat after 1st lost..
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 24 күн бұрын
We did no such thing, and I'm pretty sure they're still being used.
@torenico
@torenico 24 күн бұрын
@@moritamikamikara3879 Yeah, they're being used to store potatoes in western ukraine, away from danger
@cleoarchwhiza9006
@cleoarchwhiza9006 24 күн бұрын
@@torenicoWrong! they are being used to make tea for the soldiers. These tanks are fulfilling their true purpose a mobile armored tea maker.
@koskok2965
@koskok2965 24 күн бұрын
The underwhelming (only to those who didn't already know how mediocre at best an MBT it is) Chally 2 was just bait for the German cvcks to send their Leo 2 en masse and bear the brunt of the damage to their image.
@torukmahtomahto409
@torukmahtomahto409 24 күн бұрын
@@moritamikamikara3879 maybe to keep Zele ass in one piece, btw, Gran Shapps was ordered by BAE systems TO REMOVE Ch2 from battle line after 2 tanks were destroyed
@B83N
@B83N 24 күн бұрын
Has there been an Abrams lost to another tank? Most of the destroyed Abrams I've seen were taken out by mines.
@renegaderu5126
@renegaderu5126 24 күн бұрын
mines, fpv, atgm, artillery shells. T series tanks mostly die from same thing on both sides
@goblincleaver_mshm.9751
@goblincleaver_mshm.9751 24 күн бұрын
Tank vs tank is a very rare scenario in today's warfare most times tanks die to other threats
@Polar349
@Polar349 24 күн бұрын
Russia claims a T-72 took out an Abrams but provided no evidence
@B83N
@B83N 24 күн бұрын
@@renegaderu5126 that what I thought. People really are making this a bigger deal than it actually is.
@ulooqulg
@ulooqulg 24 күн бұрын
​@@B83N It is a Bigger deal, when a $200.mines n 3k drones .. can disable ya toughest vehicle BEFORE it even reached contact line. Or ya being forced to use it as FireBrigade lobbing shells like a Self Propelled Howitzer.... wayy back from the frontlines
@ViperBenchmarks
@ViperBenchmarks 24 күн бұрын
do they have any jammers ????
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 23 күн бұрын
They 'should' all have them installed with such.
@matthewnewell4517
@matthewnewell4517 21 күн бұрын
Note, if the tank has been on fire it may be the crew did it. We were given a white phosphorus grenade to destroy the tank in '91. Destroying a tank to prevent the enemy using it is part of your SO.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 24 күн бұрын
Whats happening is that a lot of people are getting very humiliated. Its not that people who actually understand battlefield dynamics didnt expect to see them getting banged with mines, drones and ATGM, just... like... everything... else. Its that everyone was so smug and arrogant about how a dozen M1s were going to roll up the steps of the Kremlin and into Putin's office. See, getting knocked on your ass isnt whats embarrassing. Its all the heavy words you have to eat, before you get up.
@kevinyoung9557
@kevinyoung9557 24 күн бұрын
It burns just like everything else.No such thing as a wonder weapon .Just ask the Germans from the 2nd war.
@treycotter
@treycotter 24 күн бұрын
Do I even need to ask you who said any of the things you straw manned or is it just that, a straw man?
@TheBelrick
@TheBelrick 24 күн бұрын
@@treycotter Of course the comment can be verified on every single Pro ukrainian YT channel. So why lie about muh strawman? You clearly dont know what that means
@sunking5939
@sunking5939 24 күн бұрын
Only a moron would think a few dozen tanks would change anything. You little armchair generals are embarrassing yourselves.
@vistakay
@vistakay 24 күн бұрын
​@@treycotterReddit went absolutely berserk with hyping NATO equipment
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