Review Update, living with it since; I've noticed a trend of the foot pedals to slowly become loose, requiring re-tightening every once in a while. A result of the forces required pushing the pedals outwards on their mount. A minor inconvenience.

Really fair review. As has been said by others, the damper slop isn't really an issue unique to Winwing. My MFG damper has a couple of millimetres of play around centre which I found distracting enough to remove the damper, because it would prevent a return to the true centre. Regarding mounting, I ended up purchasing a sheet of MDF and then drilling the bolt pattern. The far end is against the skirting board and the pedals do not move at all. It isn't pretty, but it works really well.

With my metal-version Saitek Pro Flights, I also had slippage issues, albeit on laminate flooring despite rubber feet and a mat, so I just popped to the shops and got some velcro tape. That worked a treat with just a tiny bit of loose play, so I ordered 3M Dual Lock and now it's rock solid. On carpet I'd bet heavy-duty velcro taped to the bottom of the pedals could do it.

velcro strips taped to the bottom of rudders will usually grab to carpet, preventing movement.

I took your advice and got the Winwing F16 combo, and it exceed all my expectations. As I was using the X56, the upgrade was shocking. So I trust your opinions on stuff like this. So, I will be ordering these rudder pedals. Thanks for doing straightforward & honest reviews.

Great, informative video. I have been wondering about this set

1:45 Ditched the non-slip mat, Velcroe on the front legs (I have a wood floor) - problem solved. These are my 2nd pedals, bought the WW rudders and damper on the strength of my satisfaction for their F18 HOTAS, upgraded from the Saiteks and would ab so lutely recommend the Skywalkers

The damper kit that they used here is pretty much one of those generic motorcycle steering dampers that you can find online for $30. The issues you described exist on those 'identical' ones too(Including MFG's). I wish sim gear companies would come up with their own damper design, so that we can end these ''common flaws' once and for all.

I have a piece of wood jammed between the wall and my virpil pedals, and I bought locking wheels for my chair, which was a game changer :)

I use one half of velcro stuck to the bottom of my Mfg crosswind pedals for carpet. Never had any problems.

I positioned my chair to have one of the feet centered on the mat in front of the pedals and it has helped stop the slipping. However my 210 pound lardass sitting in the chair also helps. 😂 I use a chair with the same pattern and wheels you showed in video, it feels fine, just takes a little getting used to having the pedals in a bit close to the seat.

Put the rough end of velcro stickers on the bottom part and it will stick to the carpet. Thanks for the review, seems to be a great choice.

I just finally got mine in the mail yesterday after two months of waiting. Damn Canada post lost the first one :( Super easy to put together and man they are beautiful. I'm going to mount them in my motion rig tonight and have some DCS KA-50 fun =)

Wonder if it will be heavy on software updates. My buddy has their hornet stick and it seems like every time he loads dcs his stick needs an update

Those CH Pros work and last a long time

Im interested in the Winwing rudder pedals, but are there other makers that also have this spring/spring-less all-in-one option? mainly because I fly jets and helos, I wanna check the other alternatives before committing to Winwing. Im also going to be placing it against a wall and am not sure if the full travel distances goes beyond the base of the pedals and eventually hit the wall.

Cut tennis balls in half and place them under your chair wheels. You won´t slip away anymore, especially on carpet. Cheap and effective mod for swivel chairs ;)

They are very good but be warned bcos i like to fly helis with high damping meaning that i put a lot of force on them. This made the anti slip stickers fall off after 2 days of use and now they are sliding. Also the spring is very stiff and amplified by the no grip issues i had to tune it in dcs because i cant reach the end of the axis without the rudders sliding away. That only applies to fixed wing tho. Overall 7.5/10

They stick perfectly to my floor … but i push myself away with my chair with wheels. Anyone a good tip how to prevent that ? I need the wheels though

In 06.02 min you are mentioned about stickness... So it's a very, very, very cheap dampers. Proper, the same looking motorcycle dampers costs about 350-600 us dollars. Of course you can modified them by removing all washers and o-rings and replacing oil for low viscosity Öhlins number 5. Watch my videos with modded dampers. Another thing is totally failed mount place of dampers. They suppose to be mount as much as possible to the right front - to make shaft travel as long as possible. WW have a long journey to go in terms of ergonomics.

Never use pedals on a swivel chair, and mount them or support them against the wall if needed 😂 I bought these earlier this year. The rear aluminum support spacer had a manufacturing defect and the hole or its thread was not drilled deep enough. I contacted Winwing support and it felt there was a language barrier as they kept asking questions I had already answered and posted a video about; I also didn't feel like taking the unit apart just to take measurements when I had already fixed the issue myself - I ended up shortening the upwards-pointing screw by adding a nut inside the case, as I had some lying around. Apart from the aforementioned issue, the quality feels similar to MFG Crosswinds. Centering force is very light in comparison and not to my taste. The pedals are a bit wider and way more comfortable when sitting upright. Metal footrests are not cold to touch even when playing barefooted. Also, while the quick release spring is relatively easy to access, it requires a ton of force to pull and I personally preferred Milan's approach that had a weaker spring but a steeper cam. Toe brakes are good and keeping the aircraft centered in the landing roll is very easy. Overall, a solid product in its price range. I'd still prefer my old MFG Crosswinds if the footrests were more comfortable.

Good review as always, good feedback to Winwing too. One more thing - real pilots don't fly in pink toed socks, lol!

Your front damper bolt is loose

Dude, put some velcro on the bottom, the stiff part of a 2 part velcro strap that will grip the carpet and keep it in place.

Judging by the unrealistic way of travel, the TM TPR rudders are still the go-to for realistic rudders.

Winwings quality has gone from good to horrible some year ago. Their gear has the same feel as some cheap toys nowdays... A shame!

no heel support... no go for me.

Thanks for the video. I don't understand why the designers deliver such a poor product. It is unstable on any surface. A huge dust magnet due to the lack of dust protection. And especially the design error at 04:06. It is incomprehensible that they dare to charge money for this.

Looks like they copied MFG Crosswinds

You've become a God damn tech review channel. So boring man. Do something other than sponsored full video ads.