same with my deathadder v2.i then bought a 20 dollar mouse and im still using it

my m901 just started double clicking too

what about the scroll down and up issue ? i keep getting the scroller f ing up on me. its so frustrating. having to get so many mouses.

@@Mariancoi razer overrated

i had razernaga trinity payed 130 euros after 1 month started duble clicking a while after right mouse click wont even hold to turn camera xD

how is it cuz im looking to replace my naga

it has the indentations but they are very faint. I don't have a problem with "overscrolling" but if you don't like smoother scroll wheels as a general preference, it might be too smooth.

Hello, I'm in doubt between these two mouse because of the format, which you liked the most?

the mouse is still going strong! I switched to a different model recently for my gaming desktop that doesn't have the thumb rest, but I still use the mouse in this video with my work laptop and it still works great

Do you like it?

@@oiganamitio Best mouse in the market for the money at the time. Still working without any issues. Software package had no updates but also no bugs, so it's fine all in all. 😀

@@EugenPries Nice! I just order mine :D! Thanks bro

I'm currently at the same position, mine is also broken, have you bought this one?

I had a rat 7 too my friend, their construction of the mouse is bad and its common for those mices to have problems, mine had too, and i've searched about it and many people have problems on them, it's not a trustworthy brand imo, i've recently bought a redragon mouse, and it's so dope :)

​@@rodolforodrigues3829 Yes I have indeed bought this mouse after I saw your review :) I have to say it's by far the best mouse I have ever owned for this price! I will never buy an overpriced rat again. The redragon still works flawlessly!

I hope the mouse works out well for you! I'm still using mine and it's still going strong.

@@AbathurSnuggles Thanks! that's great to hear. Do you have a steam account by any chance? maybe i can add you as a friend and we can play sometime xD

@@CodenameTest I'm Tziva on Steam (and almost everywhere) and you're welcome to add me.

I left the weights in on mine cos I like the weight but I still am not in love with the size. All the other cheap brands seem pretty similar in size though unfortunately.

@@AbathurSnuggles They are indeed. Basically a copy paste of the model. unfortunately never tried the small mmo mouses myself. The mouse i was talking about just so happened to give out XD (rapid clicking) got this one and ive gotta say the extra wings on the side are nice (since i have got big hands)the finish is nice and comfy too! :D

they have the wireless one

I do play some FPS but don't have the skill level to really notice an accuracy difference since the biggest variable will be myself. If accuracy is your top concern, you should see research the specific type of sensor the mice use since that will be the most important thing for you. Generally budget mice aren't going to be using the best sensors (that's why pros generally use crazy expensive mice) so my guess without testing is that reddragon and utechsmart would be similar but I've honestly not looked into it. If you find out anything interesting, feel free to let us know! Good luck!

wow a failed laser is something I haven't had happen (even on super ancient mice). I wonder if just very unlucky. Good luck with new mouse!

@@AbathurSnuggles yeah and it's not even just dead, it's just randomly turning off for typically several seconds at a time before finally working again. quite annoying when I'm in the middle of a fight or a jump puzzle or whatever...

@@AbathurSnuggles So just got it (I was so fed up I'd rushed the shipping; also got one of their mouse pads with a cushion cause my razer pad had none and lo and behold the edge had frayed over the years I'd had it) and already feel myself falling in love. A big feature that either got skipped over or missed (unless I wasn't paying as much attention as I thought I was) is that there's a mode/profile change button the bottom; I'm definitely going to set that up so I can use the mouse to control media when not gaming then go back to gaming with a button press or two. Heck, maybe someday I'll go masochistic and challenge myself to play something on an emulator using buttons assigned to the side of the mouse just for giggles 😜 oh something I'd forgotten to mention before was that I have never been a fan of the sideways wheel clicks, not because I've hit them accidentally but because I've always had an instinctive, irrational fear of breaking the wheel cause all other mouse wheels before that one didn't move sideways at all and it just felt unnatural lol

Still going strong! I ended up buying a different Redragon mouse for my main desktop (similar but slightly smaller) but am using the original one from this video on my work latop. Both are still doing well. I'm pretty happy with the purchase and even if they die tomorrow, I won't really be too put out by having to spend another $30 or whatever it cost at the time. (I still do miss the smaller size of the Naga but otherwise have been pretty happy)

It's still going just fine! I haven't had any issues at all with its durability or reliability during this time and the button presses are still clean and solid. I actually just bought a smaller reddragon mmo mouse (M901) that I'm going to swap out to soon because my only complaint with it continues to be the size, but my experience positive enough that I went with the brand again. I will keep this one as a backup.

@@AbathurSnuggles Thats great to know :) I don't play MMO, but I really like mouse with many buttons due to its usefulness, not just for games but work too. Perhaps one day you can make a review on the difference between these two Redragon mouse. I don't even know that there're smaller versions before now, and my hands are on the smaller side too :)

They are the company behind most of the components in other brands. So they dont have to add the price for parts into the overall retail price.

which one did you get? im looking for a mmo mouse.

@@donlee4238 I ended up getting the Redragon M908. I like the software much better than ghub. Easier to use, single purpose, lighter and the m908 has a button on the bottom that lets you do on the fly profile switching without touching the software. Solid hardware too.

@@whs4754 How are the buttons on the side? (be brutally honest) :D

@@donlee4238 They dont wiggle and are firm enough so that you dont press them by accident. Im still getting used to them, but they have made on foot combat in elite dangerous possible for me to do without occasionally dying from input button confusion. I was afraid that i would press the wrong button by accident or press 2 of them when i just wanted to press one, but that doesnt seem to happen. The way the rows of buttons are tilted helps with recognition. I dont think im ever going back to a regular mouse.

@@whs4754 Awesome input. Ty

8 years is good. My G600 from Logitech started to double click just after 2 months

8 years? lol mine stopped working after a few months

@Popstar Ahri great to hear they did at least one good mouse 👍

I'm still using it and it is still working fine. I still dislike the size of it, but I haven't had any issues with the reliability, and the button presses still feel pretty strong. My husband actually found a redragon mouse that has the sidebuttons but is smaller than mine (still bigger than the razer) so I might actually buy another one, just a different model. But this one is still solid!

Have a reddragon m901 for over 4 years and is working great.I use it over 10h everyday without a mouse pad and has no problem till now.Like 2 years after i got it, the scroll start to make a sound but it disapeared after 2 weeks by itself :) The soft is pretty good also.

nice, thanks for the info! I just bought an m901 because it is slightly smaller than this one and I'm excited to switch to it.

I upgraded to a different redragon last year for my gaming desktop, but my other one is still working and being used on my work laptop. Still think its a solid mouse, esp for the price

Yeah. That said, Reddragon makes several MMO mice - I would check their other options and see if any offer the wheel tilt; they might have a nicer version that does. I would love to have a useful L/R tilt on my mouse. However, I actually didn't end up liking the tilt on my old Naga Chroma; it was too sensitive and I ended up hitting it too often when I was just trying to use the wheel button. If some mfg could manage to find that sweet spot where it was not hard to press but wasn't so easy you'd hit it on accident, I would be stoked to use a mouse with it.

I don't entirely understand your question? I don't use wireless mice generally because I find them to be unreliable and occasionally have input lag. My old chroma had the option to be wired or wireless but I only ever used it wired. This mouse only is wired. Does tha tanswer question?

@@AbathurSnuggles Sorry, guess I was just being funny... Not.... You had said "I don't use wireless mice... it doesn't work out well for me" I couldn't figure out why it didn't work out well for you. Anyway... After 20+ yr in IT I picked up on gaming just after this past Christmas. For all the gaming systems I have worked on and owned I never touched a game. Didn't even know WASD... So anyway I will check out your channel in the near future to see what other kinda games will get me outside of driving and flying. Thank you.

haha okay! enjoy :)

It seems durable; it is still holding strong. I still don't find it super comfortable, but I think a lot of that is related to my hand size. Razer still wins for mouse ergonomics for me, but I think this Redragon will end up living a lot longer despite being so much cheaper. It's pretty sturdy.

@@AbathurSnuggles Thanks for the reply. I just bought the Reddragon Legend it has 24 buttons and it's intimidating to use at first glance. It's the MMO mouse that won't break the bank that's why I picked it.

It is not a toggle. You press the key and it autopresses another key for you X number of times. By default it is set to 3 left clicks for every rapid fire click, but in the settings you can change the key, the amount, and the delay... so if you want one click of the rapid fire button to hit right click 100 times, you can.

I have a giant custom sized mousepad for my whole keyboard shelf. I prefer the fabric covered soft rubber over the hard surface ones.

YO I HAVE A UPDATE so if your left mouse button (or right now) is squeeking follow these instructions, lightly start pulling the button up untill it detaches from the mouse after that feel the sides of the button (mine was on the right side of the left button) for a little bump a type of bump that the plastic printner leaves when it has finished printing the object and scratch it off with your nail or knife or whatever and push the button down again untill it clicks , thats how I fixed mine and im assuming its the same for you since all of the plastic was printed in the same way

Yeah, the driver download should be fine as long as its one of their official foreign sites. Some of the mice (like the specific one I looked at here) seem to no longer be available in the US so you have to get the drivers on their German site, but they are legit and work fine. My mouse doesn't smell but it's not uncommon from cheaper plastics I think. Hopefully it goes away in a few days.

Load the Perdition software, click "Side" at the bottom under the picture of the mouse, then left- click "1," go to Single Key, then click the keybind you want in that box that pops up and hit "OK" then repeat with the other 11 keys. I hope that helps!

Yeah I saw a couple guides on how to take the mouse apart to repair the parts that tend to cause it, but I took advantage of warranties instead. My last one was obviously not covered by warranty anymore but by then it was apparently this was just a reoccuring problem and wasn't worth the effort cos I wasn't sur ehow long the repair itself would last. Nice yours made it four years. Razer should just hire you to engineer better parts to begin with ;)

I do! It's doing just fine. I still don't like the size of it nearly as much as my last mouse, but it seems durable and it works just fine.

Yup, it's a nice setup. Depending on how serious you are at FPS, the sensor on this mouse might not be good enough for really high skill shooters. I think for the overwhelming majority of players, this one will be plenty fine but it is a bargain sensor so I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't up to par for very high levels of play. If you're a casual FPS player, though, it would be plenty fine I think.

@@AbathurSnuggles yeah, im probably going to get a G502.. not as many buttons, but more than enough for what i need it for i think.. imagine if logitech put their hero sensor in their G600 though

​@@AbathurSnuggles i looked at the M908 a bit more and its using a 3327 sensor which according to FPS gamers is good to go for FPS gaming.. making the M908 a solid all around mouse for just about any kind of gaming if you're good with the weight the M900 and M901 though use PMW3360 sensors which are pretty much still top dog for FPS gaming.. one of those would be even better for FPS, and still about the same price with the same number of buttons, and they all seem better than the G600 in the sensor department

thanks for doing the research! That's really good to know

@@AbathurSnuggles yw.. now that i know redragon is selling some MMO mice with 3360s, and people can attest to the quality of the brand, they may just be the only solution, and better than both logitech and razer in that category

I like logitech stuff a lot. I use them for other peripherals as a preference (keyboard, webcam, etc), as they generally have good longevity and decent drivers. Unfortunately their MMO mice are too big to be comfortable for me.

I have a 2012 naga. It is still kicking and working well. But no RGB. : - (

i did and it sucks ;) buttons doesnt work 100% all the time and now i order this mouse :)

Although this review is for the M908 I have since purchased the M901 which I find to be a more comfortable size since it is smaller and doesn't have the thumb rest. So I guess my recommendation depends on whether you like your mice larger or not. I've not tried the M990 but it looks like the updated version of the m901.

100-12400 according to spec

@@lihapaa1618 your kinda right. Its up to 12400 but the lowest is 200dpi

@Lionel Archari Okay! Thanks for clearing it up for me

It is wired

I switched to a different redragon that is smaller (M990), but I'm still using the brand and it's still working great

@@AbathurSnuggles that's an mmo mouse too😯 I didn't know redragon had more MMO models😅 To be honest I like big mouses; tough I never used one... but i still like them It reminds of my childhood; when I was 7 my brother bought and built a pc that was on the top back then; and his new mouse was very big and it felt ( "looked" cuse I wasn't allowed to touch or anything) very powerful🥲 And this redrgon mouse It's just PERFECT

R u okayyy? U haven't posted anything in a long timeee

I guess I'm lucky mine lasted as long as they did! They have that reputation for a reason :( The lifespan of mine wasn't terrible but considering how costly they are, it's just not worth it. I will happily budget for something more expensive if it has the quality to go along with it, but it's such a waste to pay that much more and have them die so quickly.

@@AbathurSnuggles I had the first edition of the Naga, and it lasted me a few years, and then I moved to a wireless Naga that lasted me 5 years. Then, I've gone through three nagas in a row, the special edition one that died after a year, and a Naga-trinity that died after a year. Now I'm on yet another Naga-trinity, that has been double-clicking and is wrecked, after 6-months. I'm afraid other mice won't be as comfortable. But, I'm not going back to razor, and I just ordered one of these Redragons.

@@oddvoid at least your original ones lasted a long time!

@@AbathurSnuggles Razor was a really good company when they started out. But I think inflated corporatism is killing them. Now they charge more for products that have been cheaply made, with pore quality-control. I have a feeling they also institute purposeful points of failure into their devices so it will break after an amount of time, and you'll have to buy a new one. A lot of tool manufacturers do that, like DEWALT, Makita, Harbor Freight. Just about ever single one of them. That way you have to buy new tools every few years, and can't just use the same saw for 20 years, like you could, "Back in the day"

I'm 1 year too late but M908, simply way more comfortable and flexible

yeah, I'd rather they trim out vanity features like rgb and spend that money on quality mechanical parts, because I don't give a shit how pretty my mouse is if it dies after a year of regular use.

@@AbathurSnuggles thing is the rgb doesn't cost much, and the cheap ones have those as well. I've also realized rgb can be moderately useful for tracking profile/dpi in these mice. There is no trade-off or excuse for Razer and Logitech cheep parts ( Logitech proprietary parts seem up by leagues better than Razer but still worse than the industry standard parts). This is simply large companies using cheep parts for profit while relying on their name. I hope this doesn't sound argumentative, wasn't meant to be directed personally, just been on my mind while mouse shopping hopelessly for a light mmo mouse.

no, I appreciate the insight and thoughts on it all. (I like rgb lighting too, I would just gladly give up cosmetic stuff if it meant better parts inside)

There are some adaptive peripheral options out there if you still have any mobility or motor issues that might help.. I've seen some reviewed by theablegamers. I'm sorry about your friends and guild though, hopefully you can find a new community so you can keep enjoying your games cos everything is more fun with friends. :(

I use a fingertip grip. After about a year, I did switch to a slightly smaller Reddragon MMO mouse that I have been using since. I didn't have any issues with hand pain on either the original or the replacement but ergonics is such a very personal thing to your body and grip. Hopefully you can find a mouse that works better for you.

@@AbathurSnuggles thank you for your reply! I’ll give it one more week but now I’m getting some weird back pains. I’ll try the naga, hopefully it’s smaller than this one. Thank you!