The reddragon perdition is a crazy good mouse for the price I had mine for 4/5 years in the end I wore the plastic on the left click down and it snapped.

Glad you put the red dragon perditions A head of the razor I would totally agree with that as a matter of fact all my red dragon products have outlasted any other product including razor so durable

I've had 4 Razer Naga now. In different iterations, and they all have that jittery scroll wheel issue.

I'd love to see an updated video, i'd strongly suggest if you haven't already, the Logitech G600 MMO mouse, i love it so much

Redragon perdition is my favorite. $30, lasted me 5 years and counting. Only just recently the switch on the left click is starting to go.

My favorite gaming setup is: ([` - 5] + [Tab - R] + [D, C & V]) ^ ([Shift] & [Ctrl]) = 36 Binds, all within the "WASD" area of the keyboard. Of course, in this setup, only [A] (Left Strafe), [S] (Right Strafe), with [Z] & [X] as back-peddle, are used for movement. [F] is reserved for targeting, where applicable. I'm also using a Naga (which I hate, thanks to Synapse3 being dogsh*t), which tends to have option-bar / consumable stuff bound to its keypad.

you can get in touch with support if you have trouble with parts. Corsair used 3d printer to provide me with very old out of production products

That Titanwolf mouse looks amazing, but it appears to only be available in Europe. That's such a bummer. They should expand to the US market. I'd 100% buy one of their mice.

I've had my Razer trinity for a year or so and love it. Havant had any issues with it.

I've used redragon since Mists of Pandaria and only had to replace once. Am still using the 2nd one to this day. Durable and nothing is broken. My only complaint is that the finish has worn much like lower quality keycaps do and is glosyish. But, it was $30 so you can't beat it.

Redragon Impact M908 is my go to since they were released. For me they last around a year or so before a random switch will start to go. I buy multiple when they are on sale at the manufacturers website.

Honestly i love the design of the naga trinity i have been using it for 3 years my issue is though that i have to get a new one every year because either my left or right click stops working or the mouse wont even register connection i dont know if i keep getting lemons but it doesn’t matter how many times i clean it i always have to get a new one yearly

I have important things to say here. I've been using for years the G600 (like 12 years?). Now that the switches are deads (wild double-clicks, or click sound but not catched), i was looking after another mouse . Even if the G600 was MY perfect mouse, i told myself "let's get a try to another". Then , i watched a lot of tests online and tested myself some mouses on shops. (Obviously, i compared a lot with that G600) Two mouses caught my attention : - Corsair scimitar : quite good but the side buttons are all flat. It's not a problem at all but the G600 had the buttons "formed for the thumb" and it was easier to find the right button to click. Sorry, my english is bad, but you get it, right? :). So there is a learning curve here to get used to it. For the size ? It's a bit smaller than the G600. I dont have big hands (medium i would say) but im used to the G600's size. So, this one is quite good, but for the flat buttons and the size, it's a no. I was a bit sad because i like the corsair quality. - Razer Naga Trinity : I asked in a shop to open a box a give me a try : Size : Alright, almost the same as the G600 ! Weight : Same :) side buttons, the 12 one : I can easily find the buttons. I didn't have to train myself at all to get used to it. So.. I bought it ! At home, it was hard to retrieve my native dpi but i found it :) And then is the drama : The FUCKING SCROLL WHEEL. I tested it on the shop but without interest ( some gross scrolls..) Scrolling forward was okay, but backward was harder. I mean, it was not the same force. It's a pain when you have to scroll one notch. Even multiple and slow, like on a web browser. I watched on the internet and i found tons of issues talking about that bad scroll wheel. For multiple days, i gave it a chance. But, when i had to code (i'm a player and developper as well), i surprised myself watching my mouse the moment after scrolling down just because my subconscience told me "wat?" "what's this?". Another example : without taking the mouse, i scrolled up : OK . Scrolled down with the same force : The scroll didn't move, the mouse did. Kek. And let's talk about the switchable sides : For the 12 buttons side : That first point is not a real problem, but i have to talk about it : If you have a mousepad that grips quite a bit more than usual, perhaps you'll get issues clicking these buttons when you move the mouse. I didn't have that problem with the G600. The buttons seems to be a bit softer on the razer. BUT, it's not a real problem. I give an example : You come to a friend's house and there is no mousepad for you. A Paper is way enough ;) , with the G600? Still competitive as i am with the mousepad. With the razer, that trouble. The g600's buttons are a bit harder without being too hard (i've never told myself about this). Now the other sides (6 buttons and 2 buttons): When you get used to a mouse that have 12 buttons on the side, you'll start to love having your thumb by default on a button. I would call it the bed's thumb. It's like your main button. MMO ? FPS? Same fight, that button is great. I tried the 6 buttons side. Yeah, okay, it's quite comfortable, but i can't play with that, i need my thumb on a button. The two buttons side? I just don't care. Even on a FPS. Really. So, in my opinion, the switchable sides are useless. Plus, there is no given "box" to store them. Even redragon gives a little box to store the weights. So, i sent it back to the store. More than 100 bucks for that mouse? For that quality? No way. Because i'm used to electronic stuff, i'll solder new buttons on my old mouse. AND, i'll give a try to a cheaper mmo mouse like the redragon. I'm not yet decided which one. One thing is certain, i'll never buy a razer item again. And i'll probably buy another G600 for safety (in europe, it's now less sold ), even if that model is "old" (4ms of more latency compared to the naga: 6 ms and 10ms, and an older laser captor but still a very good one) , it's still competitive. There was no difference between the G600 and the Razer about this (to prove it, i'm Quite good at COD and MGE at CSGO). And, i prefer laser (g600) than an optical(Naga) captor so perhaps it balances out ;). I'm thinking about sending a mail to logitech to ask for a newer model, just because THIS mouse is just the best one in my opinion, ( lot of people is thinking the same, just watch on youtube other comparings, or on the forums), and they could get a lot of sells. Note that i'm not really a Logitech fan, i like somes products but not all. I don't like their keyboards. This was just my opinion. I have a lot of interest/skills of computer hardware and i love to share my experience.

awesome vid, thank you - please do keyboards & gaming headphones if you can 😊👍

I have had the same razer naga for 7 years. . .zero issues at all.

3:40 i had a Razer Naga (don't remember version) but it had the same "itch" from time to time and at some point the scroll bottom stopped working properly, it scolled the opposite of what you scrolled a little bit every time and that got very annoying after a while

Ty for video it rly helps me

My favorite mouse to use has been the Naga hex /Naga trinity however, the trinity started double clicking with the left mouse button. I've always had a terrible issue with razer mice but they are often the only ones that, design wise, are perfect. The corsair scimitar has too many buttons for me I feel because when I had the normal Naga it overwhelmed me. The g600 seemed nice however I want a wireless mouse with good speeds like the 604 The hex goes well with XIV rotations for me but I've been thinking about going with the g604 if my trinity breaks. However, I've heard it rattles and it's pretty heavy too. I'm tired of going with razer knowing their durability sucks. That new viper mouse has been really tempting as well.

You are so right.. thats why I have 4 Trinity for all my computers.. I don't game, but for blender and productivity I haven't found a better mouse yet.. thanks for your review.

So I am giving Razer Naga Trinity a try. While it feels outstandingly comfortable there are 2 points where I am struggling with - the lack of dedicated button for hypershift (so this means I can't do multiple assigments to the 12 side buttons) and the 12 side button design (other mmo mice are sloped so you can distinguish which button is by the position of your thumb and the tactile feedback). This is making the mouse transition a lot difficult for me.

Double clicks issues is normal, its the keys wear. They are made for a number of clicks . You can clean them, there is a plenty of tutorials to do that. Or you can try to find the same switches used inside (its generic) and weld them. But it needs some skills. I "repaired" my beloved G600 like this ;-) .

red dragon m908 user here was my first mmo mouse in the past 4 ish months, amazing af

The Razer Naga epic chroma is notorious for having camera issues. the new Naga is actually really good but they haven't made a wireless version of it and it makes me sad

Are there any Silent + Wireless MMO mouses out there? Love my Logitech G600 but it's so noisy.

Used Razer Naga Trinity now for a long time, but the left click broke down and i had to open the mouse and put little tape pieces on the connectors. Otherwise the most comfortable mouse i owned so far. Had Razer naga epic and chroma before too, but the laser broke on both. As for keyboard and mousepad i have Ornata and Firefly.

everyone has the same issues with razor naga mouses, i am using them for 5 years and had to change it 4 times so far, thinking of going corsair or red dragon

Been using G600 for 5 years in FFXIV, have done many savage fights and it works great, my only issue is that, after so many years there is hardware wear on left click so sometimes it double clicks. I have to get another one

My issue with the razr naga chroma (and what caused me to eventually take a hammer to it) was constantly freezing. The cursor would randomly stop moving and I'd have to furiously swipe the mouse around until it "woke up" again. After 3 years of dealing with it, looking up multiple guides on youtube and google, doing all the adjustments in them to prevent this and it still kept happening...I just took it out back and smashed it. Still looking for a new MMO mouse now lol

I went from the Corsair Scimitar Pro, to the Elite version. By far the best mice for me personally. I’ve tried a lot of mice, but there’s something about these that feel right in hand. The only way I’d change at this point is if there was something very similar but more comfortable. A lot of people dont like the ICUE program and say it’s too complicated, but it’s pretty straight forward imo and I actually prefer it. I’d only consider myself a “Corsair Fanboy” in the sense that I’ve only had good experiences with the products I’ve used by them. I’m sure there may be something better somewhere, I just havent found it yet, or I cant afford it to try it currently XD but yeah I use the Scimitar Elite with the K63 keyboard/lapboard with mouse pad currently. I was using other key boards, but this is actually the mot convenient for my lazy ass when I get home from work and wanna veg out. Still getting used to the keys though, tbh, these are new for me with how they feel, but that’s just something ill get used to. It usually happens every time I switch keyboards, do that’s nothing new.

I've been using the Logitech G600 for the past 6 years and I don't think I've ever had an issue with it. The only problem I have with it is it's very plain looking and doesn't have the modern pizazz the other ones have in terms of RGB but it get's the job done. I started with Razer Naga too, way back when I was playing WoW as well but I've had so much issues with Razer mice since then and have never purchased another one since, though I was super tempted since I wanted a pure wireless setup and the Epic Chroma was the only one out there but now it's nowhere to be seen. Gave the Corsair Scimitar PRO a chance for about 3 months but ultimately I felt the handling was off even though you're able to slide the key-pad up or down, it just never felt as responsive as the G600. The presses felt mushy and never really gave that satisfying click.

Titanwolf System doesnt have onboard memory right? I know redragon m908 and m913 wireless have

I have 6 g600s and I had to switch because Logitechs software was driving me crazy.. I still use the as backups. There solid, but the trinity feels better especially working many hours. My hand doesn't get so tired.

I also have used the epic chroma for a long time and have the same issue with the random ups and downs in wired mode. I still love it tho... and just make sure to allways have it charged wheb i use it^^'

I used to have a Razer Naga, lost in a move. Have the Corsair version of it that I picked up off Facebook market place for $20. Still miss the feel of the naga. Hopefully my mouse eventually kicks the bucket and gives me a reason to upgrade lol.

Which one is the largest feeling of the group? I have the Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB and find it to be too small for my hands.

I think I've used my original Razer Naga Hex for 6 years or so and I haven't had any issues. The only reason I'm thinking of upgrading is running out of keys for ff14 as I reach higher levels haha

Is the Titanwolf Mouse available ANYWHERE in the US? I have been searching for a while now to find that mouse but your amazon link is .de and I cannot find that mouse anywhere available to me. Would be so greatly appreciated if any one has some help here!

I have the Naga chroma as well some time it stops so I have to blow the lens to make it stop the stop and go but when I play fps games it would snap up and then go wild in any upward angle also I have a long ring finger so I love that the tip of my finger doesn't slide across the mouse pad how ever the Naga is smaller and my finger touches the pad so I'm stuck with the chroma

I've used 3 of the 5 that you've mentioned. I'm very surprised that my personal favorite isn't mentioned which is the Logitech G600. It's hands down the best. You have a modifier key next to your pinky.

G600 4+ Years and still works like I bought it yesterday!

The g600 has failed me so far. Randomly it’s as if the g shift button gets stuck and I can only use buttons that require holding down control. So annoying.

I as a gamer, wow, cod, I have three mice. My setup left from my mouse was a Razer Nostromo, now replaced by a Razer Tartarus V2. In order I liked them. (all last me several years, swap between them regularly) 1. Razer Naga Pro (just bought one, previous wireless died after 4+ years, older technology, so an upgrade) 2. Razer Trinity 3. Corsair Scimitar (or a Logitech G600, I do not own one, just tested it from a friend, definitely a very good gaming mice) 4. Anything that is having 12 map-able buttons on the side. 5. the rest ... (well, if you are not a gamer, the other options serve you little to no purpose, get a better keyboard BEFORE you get an expensive mouse. Thank me later) 150€ for the number 1, IS expensive, since I game up to 12 hours a day, still, well worth it. If you don't want to be financially castrated ... the other two will do fine, they still go for 70/80€, so not cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Me, I just like them less because they are wired. It is almost 2022 and you still prefer wired? Why? Out of juice? Connect the wire 30 mins WHILE gaming, then freedom from wires again. Besides, even gamers sleep, that is when the mouse is plugged in, you recharge, mouse recharges, tomorrow , both ready for action, just saying.

I came here looking for an alternative to the naga trinity....after a year of use it has the double click issue which i manage by blowing into the cracks but every week or so i have to do it but the worst is that i now have an issue with the mouse wheel that randomly slams wheel up or wheel down. It seems to be software related and i am tiered of bumping heads with it. I open synapse ot stopsnonly to restart after a few minutes i then close synapse and it stops only to start again after a few minutes. I hate synapse too so i am done with razor.

btw most of em use the same switch and that switch tends to stiffen if u don't use it, so don't get multiple mice, thats one of the reasons it may get a double click issue..happend with one of mine even though i didn't really use it much, but it just went away..before i actually decided to order a new switch to change it, i just used it in fps , i was like oh cool easy burst fire..

The naga hex 2 is perfect for mmos, so its no surprise that the trinity is number one.

Rival 500 where do you see it rank for mmo?

Rocat Nyth is a good choice - was 119€ MSRP, right now on Amazon Germany 45€~ in White. It's eol sadly. Also, Corsair Scimitar is an option.

What about Roccat Leadr or Tyon????

Logitech G600 takes the cake, used the naga chroma for years love the G600 even more.

Someone needs to make a Kickstarter to get these companies to make a wireless MMO mouse again

2021 update. im now using the corsair scimitar rgb elite. great mouse if anyone is looking in 2021

Someone please make a vertical MMO mouse

Im using redragon. Its perfect for wow but couldnt find a way to work with ff14. Im trying to use combo keys like shift+1 ctrl+x vs... But it doesnt work. For ex its just pressing 1 instead of shift+1.

I use a Logitech G600.

G604 Has been my go to

I have u tech smart Venus but the side buttons are kinda hard and I want soft one like razer naga and I play fortnite and use the side buttons and I also need to swipe my finger vertically so I want soft one

i just want a death adder with 2 more side buttons below the top and maybe the left/right scroll wheel rocker.

G502. I love the mouse but I need more buttons. However, the 2 buttons to the left of the left click, are so good. Will be hard to give up.

gonna give the redragon a try, I don't like razer at all, and my g600 has been pretty cool but needs a replacement after nearly 10 years

The red dragon m913 is really the only mouse that is worth buying if you want wireless, or the evga x15 if you want wired. This is coming from someone who plays a black mage on ff. that index finger button is a game changer when using shift bars on ff, or even dodging in other games.

uhm the Logitech g600 is the best mmo mouse hands down my buddy has had 3 razer nagas in the same time I've had one mouse so I definitely wouldn't purchase any of their products

i just need 6 buttons that are all easily accessible with the thumb. trying to get away from controller, and my left hand is braindead from years of controller use.

Hatte die Razer Naga Trinity ein bisschen über 2 Jahre und deswegen leider auch keine Garantie mehr :/ meine hat das Linksklick Problem mit dem Doppelklick und dass man auch nicht mehr sachen halten und somit markieren oder verschieben kann. den fehler gibt es sogar scheinbar immernoch bei der neuesten maus der reihe (naga pro), welche sogar überarbeitete switches bekommen hat. für das preissegment echt schlecht. hab mir jetzt mal in den osterangeboten vom versandriesen die redragon m908 (killer features für den preis) bestellt und eine corsair scimitar elite (welche den deutlich besseren sensor verbaut hat). mal sehen welche davon dann auf meinem tisch bleibt :)

thx man

On top 7 list it would have been like that, Naga being 3rd, Corsairs Scimitar 2nd and Logitech G600 1st

You didn’t break anything on your Naga. Every single product I’ve used of theirs has something wrong with it along the lines of the issue you described. I’ve tried so many of their products at this point that I’ve just given up on them.

I have a predition 3, best mouse ever!

My Scimitar has crappy switches that fails after 1-2 years of use. My second Scimitars switches started to fail 5 days after warranty ended. No more Corsair mice for me. Naga Trinity next for me

Have had 3 razr naga all broke within a year or 2 . Have a red dragon m901 lasted 5 years and still working great . Unless raze naga price drops to 50 bucks will never get a naga again . Might try Corsair mmo mouse

At 0:44 you pronounced 'Lang Lang' so perfectly! At that moment I thought you are from China like me xD

Another MMO Gaming Mouse; ReDragon Impact Elite M913 Basically the version of the ReDragon Impact M908 with wireless capability along with wired, higher dpi and range and others things as well. Definitely recommend ReDragon mouse to those gamers out there!

Corsair scimitar!!

did you tried the Roccat Nyth Desperius?

What about the Corsair Scimitar? Anybody know anything about it?

ELECOM M-DUX50BK by far the best mouse I have ever owned really good for those whole hate 12 button mouses and good for general gaming to use it for all mouses anyone who new at mmo and think 12 buttons is going to be hard to use I recommend this one as I started off with the G604 but had 2 bad experiences with it and got the M-DUX50BK only bad thing is that it is slight small then average mouse but light great mouse had one for year and half and it only cost $25 so not a bad deal

I have naga trinity and side panel buttons not always work i would avoid this

I only tried Naga, g600 and scimitar, for me personally scimitar is hands down the best. The click pretty big and fit for my hand but the feel is very light.

Nyth, can never go back!

I never experienced a better mouse than the Corsair Vengeance M95. Quality.. controls.. parts... nothing comes even close to this mouse

I have the same problem with my Razer Chroma!

I have the trinity, two of them actually---its good, but I think the G600 from Logitech is better.

Corsair Scimitar PRO RGB? That is the best for MMO

I have been looking for a good MMO mouse for the last week or two. I have 2 Steelseries mice for FPS. Everytime I ask and Razer comes into the subject it's like "Yeah it's a good mouse, but I have had to replace it 3 times" or "Yeah but.... this was wrng with it" or "that went wrong with it" I have never heard anyone just say "Yeah it's good" they seem to either break after a few months or even weeks!! Or they are faulty out of the box.... is there anyone who has just had a flat out good experience with a Razer mouse? I'm yet to meet someone who has. I have had both my Steelseries mice for like 2 years now and there's not a single issue with them, I have even dropped one of them 3 times and the thing is in the prime of its life still to this day.

Honestly the best razer think is Razer Naga X, others are jsut too heavy and not comfortable to use even for a regular sized hand and also more expensive.

No g600?! You’re crazy

I bought the logitech G600 due to all the praise of people. The mouse buttons were way to sensitive for me. Also the modifier mouse button was annoying af. I would press it all the time when I wasted to press the first row of macro keys. Returned it after barely using it. I reallydon't wanna do this but I'm gonna buy the Razer Naga trinity. The sensor on my Razer Naga chroma has been acting up for years and locks the y-axis a lot so I can barely move up or down. The Trinity uses a pixart sensor so i don't think that mouse will do the same as this shitty mouse sensor. I don't like razer as a brand, delivering wacky performance for a price premium but i've been using their mice for years now and I'm so used to the feel and tbh the mouse clicks are just sensitive enough without being hairtriggers. And their macro keys feel nice.

My favorite is Asus ROG Spatha, best build quality ever seen. Edit: And its wireless 👍🏻

g600 is my fav :D

Can I buy waifu instead ehehe. I only have a regular mouse and I play like a pianist on my keyboard whenever I play gnb _(:

Hate Naga the quality has been a major fail for me in the past with tracking failing 3 times in one year alone. My Corsair Scimitar RGB is now just over 2 years old and has a slight double click. Upgrading to Corsair Scimitar RGB Elite Optical because the build quality is simply miles ahead of Naga, as far as I am concerned.

Last time I bought a Razer mouse, it had cable connection issues, stuttering and mouse going all over the screen. Razer suggested me to reinstall the firmware then the mouse went dead and I refunded. Now I’m hearing you’ve had similar issues with different models so I can safely say Razer mice are trash or coinflip. They are overpriced and all the brand respect comes from the marketing strategies. I’ve used a Roccat, it was awesome but that particular model had chronical mouse wheel issue. My old Steelseries’ wheel died after it got crushed in my backpack (I guess) and my Logitech 402’s wheel button is dead after 2 years. I don’t know which brand to trust anymore, I guess I’ll try that Titanwolf. It’s crazy after all those years noone has come up with a durable product. All of them seem to have problems.

Pick up a corsair scimitar and you will never go back to any of those. And i came from a naga myself.

i had the same issue as 3:55min

Your issues with the Naga isn't you being unlucky. I had two of them, both were poor. My headset and keyboard were Razer as well, and again, poor. I'd recommend everyone to stay away from Razer in general, it's poor quality and high prices.

Razer Naga is the best imo, because, it's wireless!

Bought a Naga Trinity last February for WoW and double-click issues came up after 3 months. What a waste. Got myself a G600 and first impression is that it already feels like a much more durable mouse. Screw Razer - never again!

wtf, die Titanwolf hat sogar einen optischen Sensor

I see mmo mouse and all these devices have those lined up keys on the side. I truly dislike that design. I feel the top mouse I play with is the Roccat Leadr. It's a shame it was discontinued. I still hold out that they will bring it back. I have purchased 3 but its due to having one I dropped and broke. Not trying to buy anymore because the ones you find are expensive. So honestly, I write this in hopes that Roccat sees it and brings it back or another company can make a similar product. Not everyone likes a bunch of extra buttons thrown on the side of a mouse.

Titanwolf is a knock-off of Roccat Nyth. I wonder if it's better sensor wise...

Razer Naga thumb buttons are far too easy to click, causing a lot of miss clicks...