Trans Women’s Impact on Thai Fashion | States of Undress

Trans Women’s Impact on Thai Fashion | States of Undress | Refinery29

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Hailey travels to Thailand to explore how transgender models are redefining fashion and influencing a new generation. But does representation on the runway lead to social progress?
This episode of States of Undress first aired in 2017.
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@refinery29 5 ай бұрын

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@fidesign5924 4 ай бұрын

Why you gotta make jabs at Trump?

@derekdolcy5839 3 ай бұрын

😊😊😊😅❤❤❤yea agreed 💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

@arthurwatts1680 5 ай бұрын

Gotta love that Thai doctor - 'if they can't walk up the stairs, not strong enough for the surgery'. Thai people would accept that without question.

@Shithappenswhenu 4 ай бұрын

That doctor cracked me up! 🤣 defo should have his own tv show!

@forsshore4090 3 ай бұрын

@@Shithappenswhenuglad am not the only one who thought that😂

@apio388 4 ай бұрын

Honestly, this series is Anthony Bourdain-level. Truly amazing. I wish more series like this existed.

@dylanmaxey2531 4 ай бұрын

Surpasses and is head and shoulders above!

@eyebyte 6 ай бұрын

This is so unique. The people of Thailand genuinely mourning a leader not forced having their own emotions and memories through the generations, it’s an exchange of respect. We should take notes.

@perla4118 6 ай бұрын

Perhaps if it wasn’t Biden 😂

@exnihilo415 6 ай бұрын

@@perla4118 You’re telling me the alternative would be better for LGBT people?

@bloodcottoncandy1514 5 ай бұрын

Wellllllll we kinda have a pretty good PR team for the monarchy. The royals here are just as ba everywhere and our corruption is pretty bad too. It's all smoke and mirrors.

@allouttabubblegum1984 5 ай бұрын

@@exnihilo415like invert Trump and his invert wife? LGBTQ have gone beyond wanting equal rights, they are a protected class.

@Allpie_isgoodpie 5 ай бұрын

We should have a leader worth worshipping. Oh wait, that's what God's for, and we don't have kings for a reason. It's kings of our whole thing.

@skytombs253 3 ай бұрын

I'm trans in the USA. I'm a USAF veteran with education and struggle to find work. Interestingly, is that the same men who vote against ppl like me are the same ones who offer money to sleep with them. I wish equality for trans ppl everywhere. ❤

@meikusakabe4167 2 ай бұрын

you're a man

@meikusakabe4167 2 ай бұрын

no one just hire you anyways

@SUMLIGHTZ 17 күн бұрын

@@meikusakabe4167Your comments on this video are full of hate, how do you live like that?

@dylanmaxey2531 4 ай бұрын

I am so enthralled and seriously awed and impressed by Hailey's journalistic skill!!!The world and this time needs more real journalist like Ms Hailey, I will gladly pay to support this woman's work, insight and beautiful heart.

@AstarottesToy Жыл бұрын

I feel like really gives a good overview of the situation, and really how difficult it can be for people stuck in the beauty industry, especially trans women. I pray that all these women will grow to be more accepted under the law and society. In the US these struggles are also commonplace. I hope somewhere will lead the way for trans rights socially and legally

@exnihilo415 11 ай бұрын

My wife is a Thai trans woman. We've been waiting over a decade to legally marry in Thailand. We are legally married in the US. It's a slow process and the Thai government is really dysfunctional so all manner of needed reforms just aren't happening. Here's to hoping in a few years things will improve. Know hope.

@caradiamond4462 6 ай бұрын

Not necessarily stuck in the beauty industry. It’s big in Thailand and many other Asian countries where trans women have no choice to resort to sex trade. For them to have a career in beauty modeling or anything for that matter would be better than that. Unfortunately they are still not treated fairly and the same.

@NBC09 6 ай бұрын

I hope NEVER!

@4651adri 6 ай бұрын

That's because they're men 🤦🏻‍♀️

@Tchokwe 6 ай бұрын

@@exnihilo415 I don’t know if this is the right place to a dress this subject, but I would like to culture myself about trans people in Thailand and Philippines. Why they have so many trans. Is it a survival thing, escaping poverty; it’s a high born rate or something else? I apologizes for my writing, English is not my first language.

@audioeins Жыл бұрын

❤ host / producer Hailey Gates is so enjoyable to watch. She is intelligent, witty, adventurous, and respectable as she navigates scenarios and cultural encounters, and her journalistic point of investigation and inquiry is revealing and informative (as i have seen in other shows as well). Also, she is a full on cutie with beautiful striking features :)

@pamelalapierre6678 2 ай бұрын

AGREED !!!❤

@duchessofautumn 5 ай бұрын

These transwomen are gorgeous and super cool people. 🧡

@alexysq2660 Жыл бұрын

A truly lovely and quite touching video; *Hailey* is absolutely marvellous and all these trans women are as well : so very brilliantly well done, **Hailey* and *Refinery29** 💖✨💖✨💖

@finnrogue9435 6 ай бұрын

the trans men too, Jyb is so handsome 🥰

@meikusakabe4167 2 ай бұрын

@@finnrogue9435 no she's not

@loonabloo 6 ай бұрын

This was such a delightful and enlightening documentary!

@meikusakabe4167 2 ай бұрын

lol you're trans

@hanakob4563 6 ай бұрын

This series is done so so well.

@Belihoney Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this because I've always wondered why their idols are styled so so well compared to other industries lol

@Daph112 5 ай бұрын

Because image is the most important thing in Thailand.

@lucyhanks500 5 ай бұрын

Discussing the more than complex on style, is not only a visual assessment. Much like I complained when my mother collected me from primary school dressed like a marvel character in spandex leggings and leather knee high boots 🙁

@mothersuperior6981 10 ай бұрын

this is really well made it gives us viewers a point of view on thai trans community experience and life within Thailand.

@Ksnamaste Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. The personal trainer was cute though

@Juniper_drink 4 ай бұрын

This is a really amazing insight. I’m really learning a lot watching these ❤️❤️❤️

@meemmie 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the interesting content for letting the world understanding the Thai Transgender. I miss the 2016 moment when our beloved King Rama the 9th died. Great editing and nice Thai music.

@kenjirogery9571 6 ай бұрын

i'm crying watching this, idk why. pom rak khun Thailand ❤

@maplesbrandy 5 ай бұрын

I am happy to see trans women get representation as long it is safe for them

@allouttabubblegum1984 5 ай бұрын

I hope you care about the safe spaces of biological women just as much.

@LunaCohn 5 ай бұрын

@@allouttabubblegum1984ah look at you all over these comments, so obsessed about other people, strange.

@85hr 4 ай бұрын

@@allouttabubblegum1984 why would they not.. why r u bringing that up lmao, not eveything is about you..

@esther8262 3 ай бұрын

@@allouttabubblegum1984 It is NOT 🙅‍♀️ all about bubblegum

@melissaevangelista4996 4 ай бұрын

That was amazing to watch! Do one with muxes next

@edselpretzel 9 ай бұрын

THIS WAS BEAUTIFUL

@menaakshisiwach5169 Ай бұрын

I had seen other refinary videos too, but this was heart melting ❤

@SUMLIGHTZ 17 күн бұрын

loved this video, thank you for capturing their story :)

@ServandoIV 5 ай бұрын

What I love about the Thais is their serenity…..very amiable.

@iheartesfaye 5 ай бұрын

this was 1 of my favs

@Vkubin Ай бұрын

This is such a touching video, I literally cried ❤ And subscribed. This is an amazing example of reporting. Such great handling of a sensitive situation! Truly professional

@adlc1313 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely love all her videos!!!! Binging as we read! ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉

@augiepm4428 5 ай бұрын

Same, and this one is most dear to me personally. She really knows how to ask a question as an ally. Always the witty sarcasm keeps me inquiring along with her.🎉

@nanajuwarh2037 6 ай бұрын

I like Lolita,she seems like a fun person,Pinky is Stunning and Armmy is just so likeable.

@meikusakabe4167 2 ай бұрын

i almost threw up when i saw him... insufferable

@isabellasolaimani 6 ай бұрын

I recognized Mimi from her modeling on project runway!

@SiameseFatcat 4 ай бұрын

As a Thai this is interesting Transgenders are tolerated here we Thais are just open minded but I I’m started to do more research thanks for sharing

@jeanproctor3663 2 ай бұрын

I think I can say that I've never seen a journalistic style such as Hailey's before and it's so lovely to see. It's fantastic to see a journalist that is so respectful and also loving towards the people she interviews. The world definitely needs more Haileys!

@janeta.6177 4 ай бұрын

I miss this show!! I wish VICE could bring this back.

@patticakesintexas 3 ай бұрын

This was v interesting. I enjoyed it.

@emilynix6404 4 ай бұрын

They're so gorgeous!!

@amirgurung6148 5 ай бұрын

This was such a beautiful and positive video ❤❤❤ Loved every second of it.

@shivanasingh9581 5 ай бұрын

Love this 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜

@harmony5180 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for uploading this gem of a mini doco💓💗💕💞💘💝

@meikusakabe4167 2 ай бұрын

okay man who's dressing up as a woman

@harmony5180 2 ай бұрын

@@meikusakabe4167 just like your mother xx

@scarletfiercebegonia 4 ай бұрын

The level of the respect for the grief is so beautiful ❤

@kigongowinnie4014 5 ай бұрын

Hailey is incredible

@davefisher1840 3 ай бұрын

Very interesting. I learned slot about Thailand. 👍

@Mini-ge9sm 5 ай бұрын

Amazing.

@racheltang9985 6 ай бұрын

Its mimi from project runway no?

@paulisverstappen9705 8 ай бұрын

So inspiring I’m newly trans woman

@donnadiore2356 6 ай бұрын

So ?

@finnrogue9435 6 ай бұрын

@@donnadiore2356 so they're happy to see trans representation from other countries, stop trying to troll random people lol

@GIRLZ-ARE-HAWT 5 ай бұрын

I hope best to your reborn journey. bless u!

@vixyvelasquez9898 5 ай бұрын

Same 😊🖤🖤🖤🖤

@allouttabubblegum1984 5 ай бұрын

so it was a choice?

@FukYaLyf 8 ай бұрын

34:07 THIS HAD ME DYING 🤣🤣🤣

@fatimateresa19 6 ай бұрын

For me 00:34 it was “no feelings” 🤣🤣

@melodymccullough5262 5 ай бұрын

The ending was the best... "So you pray for the bad things to like, you throw it away.." and then the interviewer says, "Like Trump!" 😂 Here it is now 2024 and we still are trying to throw him away! Lol

@jkmcl Жыл бұрын

That “doctor’s office” is the stuff of nightmares.

@exnihilo415 11 ай бұрын

It's fine. He knows what he's doing and his prices are low allowing many Thai trans women to transition without massive financial hardship. Despite the look he does excellent work.

@sofypi7493 6 ай бұрын

source? trust me bro@@exnihilo415

@finnrogue9435 6 ай бұрын

well, he is a doctor with very cheap prices, so it is to be expected imo, at least I'm glad trans women have the chance to go through those procedures for not much of a high price with a professional

@avalondreaming1433 5 ай бұрын

Very unsanitary. Leave your shoes on, saves time. 😮

@lordtette 5 ай бұрын

@@finnrogue9435I'd hope he'd invest in more sanitary conditions.

@keenahockey9682 18 күн бұрын

Such beautiful people ❤ K from UK 🇬🇧

@sisronweasley2074 4 ай бұрын

Its so weird to see a whole country genuinely mourning to the point that everything is black to convey grief. No one seems to be complaining! I don't mean it as bad way, but its just different how there are countries that genuinely respect their government leaders you never really see that often.

@carolinecalvert401 3 ай бұрын

l am worried about when models are older. good documentary

@icydragon68 5 ай бұрын

Have you already interviewed Loiza Lamers from the Netherlands? She is a transwoman and supermodel

@karenlindley.9756 Жыл бұрын

Omg…..that doctors office….operating room and recovery on a lounger! Holy cow! 😮

@exnihilo415 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's rustic but he's a very good surgeon and his prices are low allowing many poor trans women to transition beautifully. My Thai trans wife had her breasts done there.

@SpectrumOfChange 5 ай бұрын

@@exnihilo415yes, things look different but that doesn't mean it's not good treatment. A very different mentality in western countries than the rest of the world, like solitary rooms in recovery instead of being all together. I'm glad to hear of a personal story about this office.

@exnihilo415 5 ай бұрын

@@SpectrumOfChange Honestly, Dr. Thep at Poly Clinic is quite an outlier in Thailand. Almost all the other transgender clinics in Thailand are at western standard in terms of rooms and private accommodations with higher prices to match, of course. Kamol Cosmetic Hospital, Suporn, etc. The reason my girl went to Dr. Thep is that he's just really amazing at breast surgery. You want to get it right the first time and breasts are notoriously difficult to correct later on to make them even. I have literally known girls who had work done in Beverly Hills and then revisions and it still wasn't right. She went to Dr. Thep and he sorted it out. He's just an amazing surgeon.

@1985Crystal Жыл бұрын

I wanna move to Bangkok Thailand❤

@thirdofaman Ай бұрын

Love all you special ladies.x.

@babemitzie6840 5 ай бұрын

Haily trying to walk like a boy had me laughing so hard . She's so goofy and i love it . Btw i just found your channel and already wstched like 3 or for episodes 😅

@shawnatv4355 4 ай бұрын

That Surgery in the backroom is SCARY. Can you imagine, "Don't take off your shoes, it will take too much time." 😮😮😮😮😮 no thanks

@FM-yk1yr Жыл бұрын

Love Hailey 💗

@alexysq2660 Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, so do i ; she is absolutely marvellous and i truly do adore her: her sensitivity, sincerity, compassion, kindness, loveliness, intelligence and wisdom 💖....

@augiepm4428 5 ай бұрын

🎉Favorite!

@onomonopoeia Жыл бұрын

Help a comment section and report all the inevitable trolls. ❤🌈

@keenahockey9682 4 ай бұрын

Men or women they are all so beautiful ❤

@rsfx3617 2 ай бұрын

oh, well, they’re women👍

@MK-uz4mo 2 ай бұрын

@@rsfx3617they are men.

@BillThomas666 2 ай бұрын

These are all my favorite *yutulux*！

@vixyvelasquez9898 5 ай бұрын

Me watching this knowing my favorite color is black 😊😍🖤🖤🖤🖤

@Cherrykhalil 5 ай бұрын

Well thats always happen in malaysian trans pageant too.. politic (between the organizer) is normal

@janedoe247 5 ай бұрын

I LOVE this video!!! Thank you so muchfor highlighting the lives of trans women and the $ex worker community!!! Go Thailand!!!

@Reignebow619 5 ай бұрын

As a trans woman, that trans man is one handsome human!

@ri260 6 ай бұрын

😍

@bubblesdelight 16 күн бұрын

What stuck out to me the most is 33:07 when the doctor or what ever he is said" We don't like the patience taking of their shoes 🥺👀 I mean wtf,why? And his answer was a load of rubbish!!! Please be careful,if you are getting surgery ,so many botched people with horrific stories. Bangkok has some of the most beautiful gorgeous Lady boys,in my opinion.❤

@queenofluna 6 ай бұрын

Imagine if brits were told to do the same when the queen croaked loool

@nokeechia 4 ай бұрын

All the always black clothes peeps would be rediscovering colour

@forsshore4090 3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🙌🏾 The cheap, careless and crazy Thai doctor, this is the second documentary I have seen him in. He is carelessly hilarious. He should definitely have his own (loosely inspired) tv show.😜

@soinas-ii 5 ай бұрын

2016? This is from 8 years ago?

@sahratank7504 Ай бұрын

Very sad that she said that they were seen as freak !😟 For me Trans are not freaks they are special!

@HoldGiaCarangiCloseToOurHearts 8 күн бұрын

Well done. Thailand is a very inward corrupted place. You got close as you can. I am former Singha beer importer in Japan and had to go through many culture shocks. You have to speak Thai and have footing there to understand the inner circles of the country.

@y2kstar306 5 ай бұрын

mimi so beautiful

@KendoBrandon 3 ай бұрын

❤

@SergioPatricio_ 5 ай бұрын

#love 🩷

@erikmorales6912 5 ай бұрын

9:55 LOL she said Wendy Williams ❤😂🎉

@TimDFSmart 5 ай бұрын

6.5 BILLION!?!? Omg. I have so many questions, is this from mostly foreigners? What is the percentage of citizens that contribute? I just wonder cause if its a lot of citizens that support that industry yet dont want to allow equality, I would be raising hell as these women.

@Tchokwe 6 ай бұрын

I don’t know if this is the right place to a dress this subject, but I would like to culture myself about trans people in Thailand and Philippines. Why they have so many trans. Is it a survival thing, escaping poverty; it’s a high born rate or something else? I apologizes for my writing, English is not my first language.

@inuhundchien6041 5 ай бұрын

South east asians, before the coming of middle east religions, have very fluid perception of gender. But even after Christianity and Islam came to the region the tradition is still not totally lost. For Thailand, who was never invaded with foreign religion, the cultural perception still permeate the country.

@Tchokwe 5 ай бұрын

@@inuhundchien6041 So you are saying, because it’s a small and “open minded” country the rate look higher than its is?

@eileenguy9478 5 ай бұрын

@@Tchokwe they're saying that because of more acceptance, trans and gay people find it easier to exist openly there than in other countries that are more conservative, leading to a higher recorded rate of openly trans people

@QuintessenceLuminescence 5 ай бұрын

The grooming begins young for some to convert/ change genders in hopes to bring money to their family, and thus trauma and other crimes are committed towards them from childhood due to greed and lack of formed morals and values of human respect

@lordtette 5 ай бұрын

The doctor answered the questions. It's not that there is more it's more accepting. If other countries were to be more accepting not as many people would be closeted. Not saying it's anymore accepting in Thailand; wish they'd be able to change their gender markers on legal docs

@damn671 6 ай бұрын

Philippines and Thailand has the most beautiful Trans girls in the world. It's amazing how beautiful many of them are compre to other countries

@mv8908 5 ай бұрын

Because most start hormones treatment when they are still kids before puberty damages their body

@QuintessenceLuminescence 5 ай бұрын

@allouttabubblegum1984 5 ай бұрын

@@QuintessenceLuminescencewell said

@SexyBeautifulBabe 5 ай бұрын

If you’re into orientals , then yea .. bc the trans girls in Latin America are gorgeous as well

@exnihilo415 5 ай бұрын

@@SexyBeautifulBabe TRUE! There are beautiful trans women all over the world.

@user-nw5ml7lr2b 4 ай бұрын

But @ 11:48 its sad that any living human feels like they are a joke!!!! Thats also not fair we arw who we are!!!!

@eringemini7091 Ай бұрын

If the pageant wasn't rigged, Pinky would have won hands down!😊🥰

@davidoverholt251 4 ай бұрын

Just checking your thought regarding what I have heard are called Lady Boys in Thailand!

@user-bs5ys4vo7e 4 ай бұрын

The last trans looks like my neighbor... they are so alike...

@seriousros7280 4 ай бұрын

The period of mourning for the King is very touching. I'm not a fan of the Chinese fashion designs.

@robyxhagen 21 күн бұрын

she said Bye guys to the trans woman that just had surgery, lol 34:22

@BillThomas666 2 ай бұрын

*yutulux* aesthetic is amazing!!

@user-nw5ml7lr2b 4 ай бұрын

@30:26 😮😮😮😮😢❤!!!! Really dad u thought denying your son education would be the best way to go about that problem😮😮😮😮!!!!!!!🤔🙄😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨🤕🤕🤕🤕

@2TMarie 5 ай бұрын

So if "all pageants are rigged," why bother?

@LunaCohn 5 ай бұрын

Exposure to get into modeling, at least for the girl that was primarily shown here 😊

@alexrusso6503 2 ай бұрын

The us can learn something from their trans and Apple's agency. The fact of not being represented as a woman but as who they are, transgender, being so meaningful to them speaks volumes about what is happening here. Be proud of who you are, dont try to be someone you arnt. As a woman thats my biggest issue with the trans here, otherwise i wouldnt care. I just dont see my being as something that they can impersonate. But they want to overtake what being a woman is instead of standing in their own identity. I think it's insecurity based, otherwise why diamantel women and over take the word and everything its comprised of. Imo they can be there own beings. Be proud of their journey just dont down play others. You dont find equality and acceptance by impersonating another. You find it by being true to yourself and respectful to society. It shouldn't overshadow women it should be in line with. We are uniquely different and that is a beautiful thing. If more transwomen here learned to respect the people they are idolizing they wouldnt have so much backlash, but when you can't respect the work and lives off the women you base yourself off of while using their identity to validate yourself there's really nothing left to talk about.

@chrisrubin6445 4 ай бұрын

where can I find that FUCKING SICK gender org chart you showed? shit was crazy and I want to look at it more

@donnakarlechuk3698 11 ай бұрын

The doctors office is disgusting!!!

@isomarulor 6 ай бұрын

He’s a very good doctor. Old doesn’t mean unsanitary

@derekdolcy5839 3 ай бұрын

😊😊😊😅❤❤❤❤😊🖐️💜❤️🌈🌈🌈hello there to trans woman in tiyland

@keyboarddancers7751 Ай бұрын

Any young man walking into that "doctor's" premises or into that half empty pageant hall is deluding himself.

@Nclk619 2 ай бұрын

Will they include in the book how awful the king was? I can't understand people... he was a terrible person not only to his people but to his wives and multiple columbines. Thailand should be celebrating for a year and not mourning.

@rainieskys Жыл бұрын

So Jyb is both trans and a tom? Phew, I’m trying really hard to understand

@PxstelMorgxn 11 ай бұрын

i think they mean in the us jyb would be a transgender man but in thailand he is a tom

@rainieskys 11 ай бұрын

@@PxstelMorgxn Oh, I see! Thank you :)

@eileenguy9478 5 ай бұрын

Trans men have existed in wlw/lesbian spaces in the west as well.

@CAMICAZE007 Ай бұрын

YAS...High Priestess No Feelings 😊

@jackspence625 27 күн бұрын

It was interesting to see the diversity of gay life in Thailand. It was a well presented documentary, but it was tainted at the end with a political slur. Unfortunately, people have become more and more indoctrinated in the US. Perhaps that's one reason the phrase "Ugly American" became popular.

@thalysfreire1208 2 ай бұрын

Emma stone in poor things mixed with dakota johnson

@arielslack7015 3 ай бұрын

The saying in the Bible is true when the righteous are ruled, the people rejoice sounds like Thailand had a very good king

@martymar9311 4 ай бұрын

❤😂🎉😅

@mrsblue3011 4 ай бұрын

The world will never be normal again. We don’t even know what normal is.

@effingcool1780 4 ай бұрын

World was normal when humans were still living in caves and hunting each other for food. Cannibalism. It became abnormal and unnatural when humans acted less and less like animals, like starting to farm and building things. From point of the mother earth we are already abnormal animals.