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Refusing A Ring Return
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3 жыл бұрынThe plaintiff says the defendant is his ex-girlfriend. He’s suing her because he claims she owes him money for the engagement ring he bought her, which she refuses to return. The defendant says she moved in with the plaintiff not long after his wife of 35 years died. She claims the ring was a gift and wasn’t a proposal.
Case 29-272
@dgaines6781 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: she used him. She sought him out after his wife dies. She moves in. She took over his place and displaces him to another room on a futon. Accepts an engagement ring, "that's not an engagement ring." Ends the relationship. Stays for year and a half. Keeps the ring and sells it. He's a simp, but she definitely used him.
@karli9434 3 жыл бұрын
D Gaines, I think you summed it up perfectly. She's even LOOKS like a gold digger.
@Childfree334 3 жыл бұрын
More like they used each other. And you really beed to look up the definition of a gold digger. Does not apply in this case.
@SpiffyPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
@@karli9434 can you explain the look? Not sure what that means
@jaynehogue2459 3 жыл бұрын
@@Childfree334 no but she wasn't looking for a husband. She didn't even wait a year after his wife died. Who does that
@ShugaAnnSpyce 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing. Opportunist.
@kevinjudy2210 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the old jeweler was a cool breeze.....RETIRED LONGER than he worked!
@Bread996 3 жыл бұрын
Shows what a scam the jewelry business is. Pay $3500 for a ring, sell for $800. Worst investment you can make in life.
@Joeh1154 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bread996 Marriage is the worst investment a Man can ever make.
@jenniferbart3060 5 ай бұрын
I highly doubt she only got $800 for it.I bet she got more.
@kenyettaready 3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the elderly gentleman. He's freaking wonderful.
@metallic_cocoa 3 жыл бұрын
So adorbs
@mikesteele05 3 жыл бұрын
We all need a Lenny in our life!
@kenyettaready 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesteele05 you think he can tell off my boss? Lol
@dbeloved02 2 жыл бұрын
He is tooooo cute
@Maninawig 2 жыл бұрын
A true romantic
@richyaintrich 3 жыл бұрын
She took him for a ride. Her being in his place not paying rent after he left is a tale of its own.
@small_joys2022 Жыл бұрын
A ride he wanted to go on willingly.
@CuriousGoodsJessica 3 жыл бұрын
"Im gonna be 93, I don't look it..." 🤣
@granitemoss1451 3 жыл бұрын
He was the sharpest in the 3 of them, too.
@blondesense1708 3 жыл бұрын
My nana says the exact same thing 😂
@jenniferodessa5998 3 жыл бұрын
That was a good one 🤣
@elishamartin9863 3 жыл бұрын
He was the best part of this case
@contessahinson 4 ай бұрын
Atleast he stands up ....I hope to God I can do that at 93
@sm3296 2 жыл бұрын
Going through grief is so painful, so earth splitting, this poor guy just wanted companionship more than anything, he was trying to avoid the pain, unfortunately he now has to deal with this plus the loss of his wife. She’s a real piece of work.
@small_joys2022 Жыл бұрын
Who grieves his wife's passing by hooking up with another woman?
@marilynwillett804 Жыл бұрын
@@small_joys2022 YEAH men grieve by trying to get with another female.
@blackgirlwithaseptum5895 Жыл бұрын
@@marilynwillett804 not just men 🤦♀️
@ivonned32 Жыл бұрын
@@small_joys2022 You obviously are 10 years old 😅
@ivonned32 Жыл бұрын
@@marilynwillett804 I so wish you have enough intelligence to pick a good man.
@bradfordloyd7623 3 жыл бұрын
FUNNY.... She wears that ring on the finger an engagement ring goes on🤷🏻♂️ (Side note.... 'Leonard get up!' I died🤣)
@MsJersey3 2 жыл бұрын
you wear a ring on the finger it fits and is comfortable
@xzgun100 2 жыл бұрын
I got a diamond ring on my thumb said no one ever
@johnhewett9483 Жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly i wondered why nobody mentioned it. And towards the end of the case judge referred to it as an engagement ring when asking defendant a question. The defendant did not deny then that it was. I am glad some of us are observant
@geraldinechislett186 2 жыл бұрын
I am 71 years old,and have only had one soulmate….I will never find anyone who could ever replace him…I am waiting to reunite with him…God willing
@terry_kathryn 3 ай бұрын
Bless you 🥰🥰🥰
@mymobilebuddy4392 2 ай бұрын
God bless you
@MarySmith-lk4ss 2 ай бұрын
God bless you 🙏🏽 you will! God has us in the palm of his hand 👏🏽
@kac4klhc977 Ай бұрын
I wish men were the same way, but alas, most aren’t as dedicated as women can be.
@montrealkino 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. I love how that judge has such a short fuse....she goes from laughing and joking with you to screaming and yelling at you in 2 seconds 🔥🔥🔥👌
@Bailez137 3 жыл бұрын
She is just Real with it lol upfront
@cflournoy1529 3 жыл бұрын
Bipolar😂
@putinisageniusdjt1564 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny sometimes, but most of the time when she raises her voice like that. It makes me cringe!!! If I had to listen to that on a daily… I would use earplugs on a daily… She’s very good at what she does but that high voice can make me go nuts.
@montrealkino 2 жыл бұрын
@@putinisageniusdjt1564 i totally hear you :)
@thismyopinion6101 3 жыл бұрын
Pops said “I may not look it” 🤣🤣🤣 Don’t play with him
@asabovesobelow7981 3 жыл бұрын
Lolz ikr
@chrstphrmtthw16 3 жыл бұрын
Who moves on that quickly? A man who can't be alone. What kind of person swoops in after the wife dies,moves in,doesn't work and eventually takes over the apartment? An opportunist that's who. Sad .. smh
@lissanne9769 3 жыл бұрын
A very selfish person.
@ddnquestion1 3 жыл бұрын
Soulmate= No Freeloader =Yes is what she is!
@LOVE_ALL_AROUND 3 жыл бұрын
Men do it all the time. Moreso than women.
@chrstphrmtthw16 3 жыл бұрын
@@LOVE_ALL_AROUND I'd believe that. 👍 That's why I didn't put a gender to the opportunist 👍
@jeannezimmerman7034 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. I didn't like her right away. That's what happens when you don't take your time to know someone.
@mikesteele05 3 жыл бұрын
The poor plaintiff seems lost and lonely. The defendant knew what the plaintiff wanted when he gave her that ring, but she seems broke and readily willing to take whatever the plaintiff was willing to shell out in his grief.
@TSR228 3 жыл бұрын
PopPop went right to sleep after his testimony. 😂😂😂😂
@Verywawaish 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@blkbutterfly58ify 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!!! His testimony drained him! 😜
@SaturnaliaJones 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@wildmagnoliarichard8307 3 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@thecalmwayhome8483 3 жыл бұрын
Stop!!! Lol!!!!!!!!!
@MamaHarperr 3 жыл бұрын
This woman is his soulmate after spending 35 years with his late wife?!? Smh cold game yall
@vannem2688 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@Di_777 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder whether she's even into males
@ambergreen6714 2 жыл бұрын
I think u can love ppl a different way... I think
@lovemii3kids 2 жыл бұрын
I think his grieving process didn't help his thinking process
@r.m.90 2 жыл бұрын
Males for you.
@misswinter3361 2 жыл бұрын
She knew full well that ring was an engagement ring! She took advantage of the plaintiff, and his feelings for her.
@pamelajordan2890 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely..she saw him coming
@lisaparrey1343 Жыл бұрын
obviously as a friendship or dress ring you don't wear on the wedding finger where she wore it in the photo
@HollyClementine 3 жыл бұрын
As Judge Judy says, an engagement ring is like a contract & If you don’t fulfill the contract by actually getting married, you return the engagement ring to whomever gave it to you. Completely unfair judgement. I wish the best for that man.
@cecynay7369 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think she was leading him on and knowingly have him hope that they could get back together, so he didn't demand the ring back. An honest and kind person doesn't stay in your house rent free and kick you out of your room for 18 months once they know they can't be in a relationship with you. He's foolish to fall for it, but she's a horrible person to play him like this.
@amandabrown6565 2 жыл бұрын
I also agree!! He even stated that he had Hope's they would get back together that's why he let her keep it!!
@jaynecampbell4396 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the person who did NOT break up gets the ring . Personally, I think he waited too long Do REAL DIAMONDS crack?zi looked it and teal diamonds doNOT ctack according to Google.
@HollyClementine 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaynecampbell4396 Even if it’s made of plastic you should return it to whoever bought it after breaking up lol But the person who purchased the ring should get the ring back. Not the one who broke off the relationship
@elvickRULES Жыл бұрын
He should’ve went to Judy. JM is always iffy as hell on engagement rings. Judy every time I’ve seen it gives the ring back/money back.
@LawsonPatterson 3 жыл бұрын
This woman comes off as a total taker who knowingly took full advantage of the fact that this man was grieving and not in the right state of mind to be starting a relationship. She payed no rent, stole his “useless” ring, kicked him out of his own bedroom, and her reasoning is, “He let me.” That’s the statement of an abuser.
@NellieKAdaba 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@simplyjozzy4611 3 жыл бұрын
Golddigger
@m.r5712 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, just trifling…
@trstmeimlyin686 3 жыл бұрын
100% with you on that
@kellifraley7700 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! She’s totally pathetic
@smileygurl8837 Жыл бұрын
The jeweler retired at 42 😮 that's amazing. That's how he lives so long stress free
@kelynn3818 3 жыл бұрын
“Get up” lol 😂
@pat22nasty 3 жыл бұрын
Hey what’s your IG
@kelynn3818 3 жыл бұрын
@@pat22nasty Ke2times_
@contessahinson 4 ай бұрын
😂 aleast he can
@cmltron8262 3 жыл бұрын
ya girl walkin' into the courtroom lookin' like a 1990s Glenn Close
@gbrown932 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@beverleytinker2318 2 ай бұрын
Girl??? Maybe 20 years ago
@savannahvick5266 3 жыл бұрын
She used this man. He was mourning his wife and she took advantage of him. She should feel ashamed of herself.
@xzgun100 2 жыл бұрын
he used her P**** while mourning probably so it's a win win why is she more at fault. He needed something and she had that something. Also we are no where near their relationship so we can't judge.
@zigzag7194 Жыл бұрын
And she stated that she contacted him.. If i was the judge I'd make her pay back the £3:400
@butterflylovenj7300 2 жыл бұрын
"Can you hear me now?" Bless pops heart.
@fractode 3 жыл бұрын
What a piece of work. She keeps the ring, and sells it to pay bills. I wonder what she'll do to pay next month's bills...???
@hottew_twat3963 2 жыл бұрын
she probably got her disability why she got so sassy
@xzgun100 2 жыл бұрын
he didn't want the ring said from his own mouth, didn't want the money from the first sale either. At some point if she needs money it would be the first thing to sell if they break up. Even if it was a necklace or a pair of shoes...you don't want to keep stuff from your ex if you need the $$$
@msideas1379 2 жыл бұрын
She's a heartless opportunist
@cassandramae85 3 жыл бұрын
Calling her his soulmate feels really disrespectful to his wife of 30+ years. I don't know what it's like to lose someone that you've been with for that long, I've been with my husband for 17 years, but if I God forbid ever lost him, I would never call someone else my soul mate. But that's just me!
@kennethbaker5223 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what you would do if that happened.
@Ay0ubM 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. That's why I don't feel bad about the lady using him (although she's a bad person too). I don't care if you fell out of love with your wife, if you've been with her for 30+ years and she fucking DIES you should wait a little bit before thinking with your dick. He's a classless person.
@barbarabazin9570 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with you.You might be lonely you might even fall in love again but to call her his soulmate means his wife was definitely not the love of his life, yes maybe married for 30+ years but stayed together for other reasons,and I think he still is in love with her and if she wanted him he would go back with her but I don't think her feelings were reciprocal.
@ananabi9910 3 жыл бұрын
AGREE!!!!
@cassandramae85 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethbaker5223 I have an idea of my character and how I would react yes.
@adrianachong9029 3 жыл бұрын
She’s clearly used to living off men. Beauty fades but dumb is forever. She’s clearly an aging beauty that refuses to provide for herself. Don’t be her ladies and build a future for yourself.
@NellieKAdaba 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@asabovesobelow7981 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@HollyClementine 3 жыл бұрын
Love the judge Judy quote lol Just made one myself on a different comment
@littlebritian2822 3 жыл бұрын
100% agreed.
@squirrelboss7067 2 жыл бұрын
🙄 lol
@haniffahhalima6900 3 жыл бұрын
So why would "but we are not going to get married right away" come up when he give her the 💍 if it wasn't an engagement 💍?
@desireegodfrey8048 2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s a promise ring and not an engagement ring. If I can’t set a date, we’re not engaged. We are actually in agreement that we are absolutely not getting married at this point
@nikkid4890 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent question Haniffah. That really frames what was happening perfectly
@elvickRULES Жыл бұрын
@@desireegodfrey8048 oh please I was engaged longer than their whole relationship. We both knew we weren’t in a rush to get married, but we wanted to get engaged so we could take a step beyond “boyfriends” after however many years. My husband is better with time frames lol
@SaturnaliaJones 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the plaintiff doesn't remember exactly when he started dating the defendant then gave the exact date his wife passed.
@turquoiseheart6320 3 жыл бұрын
The kind of man that says to an elderly friend: Len get up. Doesn't linger on words of romance. Doesn't go out to look for love when his wife is passed but doesn't refuse a mate who offers themselves to a relationship.. kinda lets things happen.. I bet he still visits his wife's grave and changes her flowers just as he goes through the messages with this hungry woman remembering the good times and regretting the bad. I bet he goes to Len's for a tea even though he'd rather a beer but Len can't do beer because of all the medication...
@AW-vs6xt 3 жыл бұрын
she clearly says "I found out his wife had died and so I called him up" She also says he was a "Clammer". I bet these "Clammers" make a few bucks? She then moved in with him straight away. Umm Id like to go around to Lens for a cuppa too btw see you there
@turquoiseheart6320 3 жыл бұрын
He's a sharp sweertheart that Len
@konige-tochteru.9295 3 жыл бұрын
So well said 👏
@asabovesobelow7981 3 жыл бұрын
👌
@Marcella705 2 жыл бұрын
The most romantic short story ever.
@crystalmcdonald994 3 жыл бұрын
She can dress herself up as respectfully as possible, she's still a lying, manipulative user who took advantage of a widower who was afraid to be alone for the first time in his life. She should be ashamed, but I have a feeling she has no shame.
@jennross6466 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't take advantage of him.They were old friends. The guy's wife of 35 years dies. He's now lonely and wants companionship. She calls and gives him condolences for his wife, they start chatting, rekindling a friendship. 3 months later they start dating, falling in love. They move in together, he buys the lady a ring as a gift because he wants to show her that he loves her. After 6 months, they start arguing everyday, things are not good. They break up. He tells her to keep the ring. How did she take advantage of him? If anything they used each other. Simple. It's messed up that women blame women. It takes 2 to tango, blame the gentleman as well.
@jadOreMEii 3 жыл бұрын
I bet if she wanted him back he would do it in a heartbeat. How he keeps looking at her, poor lonely guy. Shes definitely not the person for him.
@trishurbanczyk127 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty common that men who lose their wife after being married most of their adult lives to marry quickly.
@Asianmusiclover7 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve noticed the same. They’re not use to being by themselves so they need someone to fill that void
@tabithasebo4256 3 жыл бұрын
Women too I've seen , hard to adjust to being alone.
@Lady.B0420 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, why honor the wife's memory or start taking care of themselves now?
@Childfree334 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lady.B0420 Right. I love the way men ALWAYS get a free pass. People are demonizing the woman here as usual.
@pat22nasty 3 жыл бұрын
@@Childfree334 oh please lol…. Here comes the KZfaq feminist Army
@barbarapaton4005 3 жыл бұрын
They formed a relationship too soon after his wife died
@gracemunich1476 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@Childfree334 3 жыл бұрын
Rings have an entirely different meaning to women than they do to men. That was a "shut up" ring lady. He gave you the ring to shut you up about marriage, but would satisfy you in the meantime so he wouldn't lose your companionship.
@ciennacrowson455 3 жыл бұрын
You nailed it!
@shannonmyers6045 3 жыл бұрын
@@ciennacrowson455 He gave her the ring to nail her lolol
@ducknorris233 3 жыл бұрын
At least he bought a ring, many guys will just talk about getting married in the future to string her along.
@Bebedollie 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh that's savage
@ahsenahmed4635 2 жыл бұрын
A ring means engagement to men or women . The whole world knows that
@claudettehamilton-corneliu1685 3 жыл бұрын
She is a user....she played on his grief and his loneliness....I hope she gets what's coming to her.
@sashachitownvillegas6850 Жыл бұрын
yep she'll get her karma
@susannah1948 2 жыл бұрын
She’s a piece of work………..!
@AP-uo7sp 3 жыл бұрын
Ray Romano & Cruella DeVille 🤣
@CuriousGoodsJessica 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 That's awesome!
@tonyrichardson5955 3 жыл бұрын
Be Nice!😂😂😂😂😂😂
@asabovesobelow7981 3 жыл бұрын
🤔🤭😂👌
@queennola3039 5 ай бұрын
The Temu version 😂😂😂
@annauk29 3 жыл бұрын
He should have gotten the ring back, she is a user. Stayed in the apartment and took over his bed, she knew that he loved her and would let her get away with anything. Sadly Judge just let her twist the knife in him one last time.
@BlueIvysAssistant 3 жыл бұрын
He was grieving the loss of his wife and jumped into a relationship too quickly because he didn't want to be alone anymore. No doubt she knew that and used him since she accepted his marriage proposal only six months after his wife died. When she saw that huge diamond ring on her finger she thought "Gold mine! I found myself a sucker!"
@small_joys2022 Жыл бұрын
@@BlueIvysAssistant Who grieves the loss of a wife by sleeping around with another woman days after she passes away? The man got the torture he totally deserved.
@Whatsyournarrative 2 жыл бұрын
The Plaintiff was lonely and she took advantage of that.
@meekthegreek1623 3 жыл бұрын
I think she took advantage of his weaknesses, by taking his bedroom and then the apartment, even shafted the landlord. I don't buy that the ring was cracked. She needed $, and fast. He said he loved her, my question is why?
@pat22nasty 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a SIMP duhhhh
@canisdeumnox4925 3 жыл бұрын
She emotional amd financial abused him. She is also a squatter.. And had to be evicted. After all that time living with him she had no built up assets? This is not her 1st rodeo...
@jaynehogue2459 3 жыл бұрын
Love how women like her manipulate the situation and then don't take responsibility
@lucyjane103 3 жыл бұрын
She's awful........
@malbarlow4991 2 жыл бұрын
there are a lot of women like that now! entitled and expect preferential treatment , ps u dont sound like that tho!
@karli9434 3 жыл бұрын
She's clearly a gold digger. I agree with the plaintiff that it was an engagement ring, but the fact that he "let her keep it" after they broke up (and I do believe the defendant on that), I think it was, in the end, a gift. The plaintiff didn't dispute her testimony about him and the jeweler trying to sell the ring for her and letting her keep the money (if their deal had gone through). They probably would have gotten their cut, too, had it sold. As for her selling it later for $800 because "the diamond was cracked," I don't believe that. I think she either still has it (it was a beautiful ring) or she got more $$ for it than she said.
@highlander666 3 жыл бұрын
That's a gorgeous ring, disgusting she preyed on his vulnerability though. 🖤 the 93 yr old friend
@sarahcouncil5871 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I saw him taking a nap, in the background, while the case continued. And I absolutely love it 😂😂
@MsTruthhurts007 3 жыл бұрын
It when he said "I'm 93 years old and dont look it" 🤣🤣
@beautifulstallion3119 3 жыл бұрын
“I wanted nothing to do with the ring. I wanted her”. How sweet 😍😍😍
@jaynehogue2459 3 жыл бұрын
Wow she's a piece of work. She learned his wife had died and she decided to move in on him to gain herself a husband. And as cruel as that is she took over his bedroom after that. And after all that she kept the ring he bought her.
@granitemoss1451 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think she necessarily wanted a husband, she wanted a full bank account. And if it meant pretending she would marry him to keep it going, she figured so be it.
@jaynehogue2459 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@lauraanne5175 3 жыл бұрын
So he has no responsibility for his actions?
@jaynehogue2459 3 жыл бұрын
@@lauraanne5175 what actions he was grieving the loss of his wife. He proposed and wanted a long engagement and she to be selfish and sell the ring. so no he is not responsible for his actions because he had no actions other than proposing. and besides it should have gone back to him because it was an engagement ring and since the engagement didn't happen it always goes back to the person who purchased it.
@lauraanne5175 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaynehogue2459 I disagree. We are all responsible for our own actions, grieving or not, he allowed her in and he allowed her to take advantage of him. She is completely in the wrong for what she did, but that does not excuse his fault in the relationship
@AshleyMarieMommy 2 жыл бұрын
Is anyone going to tell the 93 year old man he can have a seat now.
@DivineSovereign_85 3 жыл бұрын
She knew exactly what she was doing, just trifling and karma won't miss a beat on her ass. Buddy was moving on way too fast...
@sz1404 2 жыл бұрын
That type of ring is engorgement ring. She knew it.
@taurus2600 3 жыл бұрын
There's no rule book on how to properly grieve so I see how he ended up in this situation. He strikes me as a relationship type man so hopefully he is healing now and will find love again.
@small_joys2022 Жыл бұрын
You dont need a rulebook. Its just common etiquette.
@robbbietheim2096 3 жыл бұрын
Why do half these people walk through the door and act like they have never been in a courtroom before Grandpa walked in ready to approach the bench and he is not even the plaintiff? 💯
@da_elit3_guy257 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@kennethbaker5223 3 жыл бұрын
He's 93. lol Cut him some slack.
@stephaniehowe0973 3 жыл бұрын
He's 93 lay off
@mikesteele05 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see you in TV at 93!
@laurad2403 3 жыл бұрын
My aunt passed away a few years ago of cancer. Within a month of her passing, my uncle proposed to three different women! Needless to say, he got rid of all of the family photos, including pictures of my cousin (his son), got brand new furniture, and is collecting my aunt's pension as she was a school teacher, all while married to the third woman he proposed to. It's just sad!
@blondesense1708 3 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of Dog the Bounty Hunter proposing to that lady on tv just after his wife died 😬 🤦🏼♀️ So awkward and sad. Some men of a certain era need a woman to take care of them. When we were kids my mother used to get sick a lot and my father was useless without her. We’d go to school with dirty wrinkled uniforms and inedible lunches, I’d have a ponytail on the side of my head and we ate dry fried ground beef for dinner every night. He would have done the same thing if he lost her.
@laurad2403 3 жыл бұрын
@@blondesense1708 I'm so sorry you went through that! That's terrible! In my uncle's situation, his son was an adult when his mom passed, which really adds to why I think his actions just really did not make any sense. I try not to judge, but I think he needed more time to cope/grieve before moving on, like the plaintiff in this case.
@akeembell6384 3 жыл бұрын
Big sboutout to the 93 year old!
@nhutchins100 Жыл бұрын
I would place a bet that she made his life miserable the whole time. He was dealing with a lying narcissist that preyed upon his grief.
@honestyisadyingvirtue 3 жыл бұрын
Nope don't agree with this decision. Yeah he let her keep the ring after breaking up but that was in anticipation of them working it out and getting back together. Once it became clear that wasn't going to happen, he should've been given it back from that opportunist.
@marissakay7762 3 жыл бұрын
it comes down to legality and the fact that the ring is property and was proved to be a gift. Unfortunately he didn’t have the evidence. I do agree the ring should always go back to the person who gave it if the relationship doesn’t work out. Unless otherwise discussed
@danyellg3079 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@DavidKen878 3 жыл бұрын
Did you not hear they broke up in 2016? No one anticipates working things out and getting back together with someone for that long.
@chelo9882 3 жыл бұрын
So if your ex comes back 2 years later and asks for their x box back and you sold it or can't find it, you should give the money back?? Doesnt make sense. He also told her to keep it. If his word was good for the proposal then why isnt it good for giving her the right to keep it?? He shouldn't have told her to keep it and he clearly said he didnt want it but he wanted her
@simplyjozzy4611 3 жыл бұрын
He said"whatever happened after the separation was pure emotional"
@MrStudo67 3 жыл бұрын
Can't understand why some women are so shallow! Why wouldn't you just give the man the ring back on principal alone, and have a clean break? Greedy
@granitemoss1451 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Let's say it absolutely in no way, shape or form was an engagement ring (I think it was). If he's so adamant about having it back, just give it back, move on, even if you disagree.
@debbieherrera1605 3 жыл бұрын
Because she is a user. She called him because she knew he would be lonely and vulnerable. Used him for as long as she could.
@lizs5709 3 жыл бұрын
They are shallow users because men ALLOW them to be...I normally blame the usee as much as the user, but this poor guy was vulnerable, and she was a vulture
@ducknorris233 3 жыл бұрын
He should get a Cockatoo to replace her.
@elizabethhansen6984 3 жыл бұрын
Ma'am widowers/older divorce's normally dont over emphasize a new engagement out of respect for their deceased partners. No party doesnt mean you're not engaged.
@24blunt 3 жыл бұрын
she has that Brigitte Nielsen look
@elizabethhansen6984 3 жыл бұрын
This defendant is a piece of work...............She knew it was an engagement ring.
@blainw1976 3 жыл бұрын
The old man fell asleep 🤣
@contessahinson 4 ай бұрын
It late for him .....he can stand at 93....hell I'm barely getting up now
@positivelastaction3957 3 жыл бұрын
“Len, get up!!!” Real classy
@contessahinson 4 ай бұрын
😂😂 he can't hear well ....lol
@DivineSovereign_85 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why people want to keep anything or rather, insignificant things after they end a relationship. Why do you want to hold onto that energy?? I can understand a vehicle if yall share children, or a home.... but a ring?? Really? Give that shit back and keep it moving!
@lizs5709 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't hold on to it; she sold it to pay her rent😤😤
@DavidKen878 3 жыл бұрын
Energy? Oh you're one of those lmao.
@toniaphillips9695 2 жыл бұрын
She sold the ring to pay rent, but she didn't pay the damn rent💁🏾♀️
@millsykooksy4863 2 жыл бұрын
sometimes the pain of being alone after being with someone for so long makes people jump into new relationships too soon :(. she should give him the ring back that's terrible of her
@konige-tochteru.9295 3 жыл бұрын
I really despise this woman. I think she took advantage of him and his grief and is an evil blood sucker
@kayekaye08 3 жыл бұрын
She broke this man heart doowwwwwnn
@jackieblue9762 2 жыл бұрын
Notice she said that "she" called him after his wife passed. She knew he was a commercial fisherman she also probably thought he came into life insurance money as well. 🤔 Ponder that.
@shannonmyers6045 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a purposal. I am now married and my husband brought baggage into the marriage. When we got engaged he did get down on one knee but we didn't set a date or plan until a year later. Because we had kids to plan around.
@shannonmyers6045 3 жыл бұрын
@Tiffany A Troll
@dragastarr2926 2 жыл бұрын
@Tiffany A She didn’t say that…..
@christopherramon-reid2000 3 жыл бұрын
She looks like Jason Vorhees's mom!
@stephanielane9287 2 жыл бұрын
Pamela. 😆
@melinadistrict9428 3 жыл бұрын
Well Sir, let that be a lesson to you that you just don't rush and jump into a relationship during a grieving process because you are going to become emotionally codependent and latch on to anybody that will show you the tiniest bit of attention even if they don't have good intentions!
@ayyboii8108 2 жыл бұрын
Shame he was 50 when this was shot 😂😂😂😂
@small_joys2022 Жыл бұрын
I dont see any grieving, if anything he was having fun.
@cashnotax2193 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he couldn’t explain the proposal is kinda strange. I don’t believe him.
@jaynehogue2459 3 жыл бұрын
What was said and how it was said is not as important to men
@gp6373 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. While I thought the Defendant took advantage of him, I didn't believe all the things the Plaintiff said.
@gracemunich1476 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaynehogue2459 depends on the man
@elvickRULES Жыл бұрын
But she later admits it was one
@michellehertzberg8045 2 жыл бұрын
A grieving, needy man PLUS a greedy, opportunistic Karen, == equals disaster
@lucyjane103 3 жыл бұрын
It's SOOOOO an engagement ring !!!! Thats no friendship ring...
@dellahicks7231 3 жыл бұрын
I think she was fighting for disability and broke, she saw a means to an end and jumped on it. Her nonchalant attitude says it all, she just had to take the ring and play along for awhile. For his part, he hadn't spent nearly the time to grieve before he moved on, I think he was looking for a 2.0 to replace his late wife. The part that bothers me, is that he stated this woman was his soul mate, an odd statement to make after 34 years of marriage.
@jccanteen 3 жыл бұрын
Well hopefully he learned a valuable lesson... not from the verdict but from the whole situation. You can’t rush into love, especially when you’re emotionally unstable. Take time to grieve and to redefine yourself in the absence of your loved one. It would’ve been better to just cultivate a friendship for support and move to romance after processing his loss and getting to know the lady better platonically.
@Breakfastwithmo 2 жыл бұрын
I love the plaintiff's friend 🥰
@Di_777 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's "Till death due us part" but dang that was quick!! If I was his dead wife I would've haunted him at night. The disrespect!!!
@maryannemoll 2 ай бұрын
That darling elderly gentleman is just so precious! ❤
@savaala8428 2 жыл бұрын
“I spent $3,400 on this ring. It was a friendship ring” Yeah buddy and the sky is purple
@isaidwhatisaid1006 3 жыл бұрын
He STILL aint over her! Watch how he keeps looking at her when he is talking to Doug.
@2flyb11 Жыл бұрын
"Leonard get up!" Rudeness!!!! Always be kind to your elders no excuses
@karenbeee4568 Жыл бұрын
That’s probably how he spoke to his GF. Now we know why she slept in another room.
@frankgiuliano380 3 жыл бұрын
this woman is a user. The Judge is totally inconsistant with what she normally decides. This is crazy. the guy deserved his ring.
@justageneraluser 3 жыл бұрын
"He's a clammer." Underrated sentence
@nybsbfan18 3 жыл бұрын
He jumped into this too quickly. And I thought she gave him some of the money...?
@scandia61 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 93, but I don't look it.. priceless!
@nancebug23 3 жыл бұрын
That's what you get for moving on so quickly after 35 years.....sheeesh!
@Cutecamp1212 2 жыл бұрын
She gave him grief because she didn’t love Guinea! She saw a sucker and rode it out🤷🏽♀️
@franklesser5655 3 жыл бұрын
He's lucky to be rid of Cruella.
@KEBinAZ 3 жыл бұрын
There is something about people and prospective partners that prey on someone who recently becomes widowed. I know two men this happened to. This woman preyed and stuck around long enough to get a ring. Regardless of who broke this off or whose fault the break up was, she should have returned it instead of selling it. Tacky and cold.
@KAKE-26 2 ай бұрын
I resent the judge expressing her opinions on when is/isn’t too soon to remarry after the passing of a spouse.
@stephaniehowe0973 3 жыл бұрын
The 'DIAMOND' ring was cracked in half? 🐃💩
@gracemunich1476 2 жыл бұрын
what kind of diamond? Very flawed diamond…..
@ebonypegasus9864 3 жыл бұрын
Its interesting that the judge ruled in the defendants favor after she flat face LIED that it was not for engagement and just a gift... then turned the story around at the end when put into a corner. to me.. you lie in court you should pay the damn price.
@thebookwasbetter3650 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip for guys - never start a marriage proposal with "Bein' that..."
@enolahastiin6811 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if his wife of more than 30 years also thinks they weren't soul mates? She must have turned over in her grave.
@bhornannawindeedeigh5007 Жыл бұрын
The defendant is most definitely a rotten human being. This 3rd stanza in the song Evil Woman describes her perfectly: "Evil woman, how you done me wrong. But now you're tryin' to wail a different song. Ha, ha, funny, how you broke me up. You made the wine, now you drink a cup. I came runnin' every time you cried. Thought I saw love smilin' in your eyes. Ha, ha, very nice to know That you ain't got no place left to go." Evil Woman, ©️Jeff Lynne, of the Electric Light Orchestra band.
@ZebraLens 2 жыл бұрын
If the jewelry store categorizes it as an engagement ring then thats what it is. An engagement is a contract to be married, even if its two years out. If the contract falls apart, the ring or equivalent value must be returned to the buyer. In this case he let her keep it for years! So its hers
@citytrees1752 2 жыл бұрын
Ladies, stay away from widowers who are over 45 and were married for 10 years or more. They are always very confused.
@Notabot2000 3 жыл бұрын
That woman is unbelievable
@cg9616 2 жыл бұрын
Poor sad man. He was lonely and lost after 35 years of marriage and she took advantage. Hope he finds a caring partner
@judieversaul4274 2 жыл бұрын
There is a saying, Women grieve- Men replace. Seems true with this guy.
@gimzoso 2 жыл бұрын
Grief and loneliness is an easy target for a woman like the defendant. I am sure this wasn't her first rodeo trophy. I think as well, a man who has been with another person comfortably for 35 years is also like a fish out of water without being with with a loving woman, which is why he took her bait as quickly as he did.
@sm3296 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.