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Reissue Roulette | Princeton and Deluxe Issues

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00:00 Princeton Reverb Reissue
05:22 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb
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@notplaying2379
@notplaying2379 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of months into owning my 65 Princeton reissue, the speaker cut out. It was, of course, a loose speaker cable Jack socket, so I tightened it, replaced the (crap) speaker cable, then tightened the remainder of the Jack sockets. So I thank you Lyle for sharing information. Now I’m thinking “screw the warranty” and getting my amp tech to hard wire the power connections.
@alexwoolridge94aw
@alexwoolridge94aw 2 жыл бұрын
You are a good man. You help guitarists like me make proper buying decisions everyday
@chokkan7
@chokkan7 Жыл бұрын
Lyle, your logic is inarguable. Thank you (again) for sharing.
@maxbialystock254
@maxbialystock254 2 жыл бұрын
My 1977 Deluxe Reverb has been very dependable for the last 15 years. Just the regular maintenance items. The general in my collection is the Peavey Special 130 i bought new in 1982. one trip to the shop for a loose wire, one dead speaker for 40 years of service. It's just heavy as hell. But the 130 is good for when they absolutely positively have to hear you on the moon. Mesa Subway for the small gigs. Light, loud nice tone. Too bad you are so far away, a great tech is a gem.
@gamjammallota78
@gamjammallota78 2 жыл бұрын
Since the "re-issue" amps are not even close to original in the 1st place, such as having circuit boards, you would think Fender would, could, and should at least make use of modern safety and longevity tweaks like proper fuse/switch wiring. I'm sure that Leo would even agree. It seems to be a recurring theme not just relegated to Fender amps either.
@mccoma11
@mccoma11 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've been considering buying one, but I believe I'll wait and see if they can get their $#!* together.
@RockYouVideos
@RockYouVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is awesome. I was really amazed to see some of the poor workmanship and design flaws on the “boutique” amps you’ve reviewed. Scary really. Aside from old Fenders and and the like are there any amp makers you recommend? There are a lot of builders doing seemingly high quality Fender style stuff like Victoria, Allen etc.
@charleshunt7981
@charleshunt7981 Жыл бұрын
Headstrong
@rodneykroetsch2924
@rodneykroetsch2924 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos Lyle. Always learn something new. You often times mention ordering the customer a new tube or tubes. I am surprised that you don't maintain an inventory of commonly used tubes considering the volume of amps that you get in your shop.
@Satchmoeddie
@Satchmoeddie 2 жыл бұрын
And this is why I own ORIGINALS! They are fairly well made, are easy to fix, and they also appreciate in value too. I still have a good supply of brown base 6V6GTY JAN USA made tubes all NOS. Those are $400 for a matched a pair now. Sorry. I am still running the original pair of GE 6V6GTAs in my 1973 Princeton Reverb, so...
@michaelweiss9219
@michaelweiss9219 2 жыл бұрын
One nice thing about running the power to the switch first is with the switch off, there is no chance of getting a shock when pulling the fuse if you happen to be grounded by touching the chassis.....
@cloudconnect
@cloudconnect 2 жыл бұрын
...if you forget to unplug the amp, yes. So for safety sake, probably switch first. For the sake of the power switch (which is a replaceable part) Lyle appears to make a good point. I think I still lean toward switch first, but I will admit to there being very little difference. In a fused IEC jack, the fuse would come first, and there is no way to get at it without unplugging the power cord from the socket. Maybe that is the best way, ultimately?
@PsionicAudio
@PsionicAudio 2 жыл бұрын
A properly wired fuse holder gives that same protection. And would you rather replace a fuse or a switch? Or in this case a PT? Because the crappy switch connections fused.
@edwardhannigan6324
@edwardhannigan6324 2 жыл бұрын
@@PsionicAudio Proper reply, master tech guys ...Top tips and safety..Ed..UK..😀
@The7Son0fA7Son
@The7Son0fA7Son 2 жыл бұрын
Fuse first, no exceptions.
@fredscott7534
@fredscott7534 2 жыл бұрын
The only non replaceable part is you. I'm in the safety first crowd. Switch then fuse.
@gregdoran5850
@gregdoran5850 2 жыл бұрын
I know will go check all my amps power supply sequence!!
@brianmartin6808
@brianmartin6808 2 жыл бұрын
after watching these videos i will not buy another amp.. but i already have six amps.
@TeleCaster66
@TeleCaster66 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when a rectifier tube was made well and would last decades?
@odgeUK
@odgeUK 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. I've tinkered with a Marshall rebuild once but generally like to just read and watch this stuff! Fascinating to watch you work and decision-make. Do you have any advice on buying a Silverface Vibrolux? A '78 Vibrolux was used on some of my favourite recordings and keen to know if a reissue would be a good buy?
@acoustic61
@acoustic61 2 жыл бұрын
IMO the fuse should have blown anyway if it's a series circuit?
@retread1083
@retread1083 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Princeton? If the PT is shorted, then yes the fuse should have blown. If the only fault was an internal failure of the switch resulting in a conductive path through the bushing of the switch to ground, then the fuse isn't in that path so the fuse wouldn't blow.
@RDHamel
@RDHamel 2 жыл бұрын
…from the receptacle to the power switch, from the power switch to the fuse, the fuse to the board, the board to the power transformer… Now hear the word of the lord
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 2 жыл бұрын
I'm lost. How does the order of the wiring make a difference in this case? The only difference I see is if the power switch shorted to ground. But in that case, Id think only one connector would be burned up. I'm thinking the power transformer went bad. I think the burned connectors on the switch was due to high resistance in the switch heating them up. That's a problem, but likely different than the failure sequence.
@wedoshotz6645
@wedoshotz6645 2 жыл бұрын
Either way it was wired, if the PT had shorted the fuse would've blown. Wiring to the fuse first would've (probably) saved the switch. But with crappy connections on a subpar switch.......inevitable failure.
@snaredude56
@snaredude56 2 жыл бұрын
@@wedoshotz6645 It's a series circuit so the fuse being before or after the switch really makes no difference as far as those burnt connectors. Series circuits are called Voltage Dividers so everything in a series circuit will see the exact same current. The fuse will see the the exact same current on the line regardless of where it is and blow if it exceeds its rating. Outlet strips have fuses or circuit breakers in them and the protect the entire thing, from the plug to the outlets because it's all series. Same thing here. From a safety standpoint, it is better for the fuse to be first, but in this case it wouldn't have saved the switch. Loose connectors or the bad transformer was causing it to draw much higher than normal for some time, but still under two amps and under spec'd or loose connectors that couldn't handle the extra current. I know those connectors make things easier to service, but I prefer them to be soldered connections because they are just never going to see this problem.
@alecboyyes
@alecboyyes 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Fender issues, I have a Pro Jr 4 that has started hissing, even with nothing plugged into it and is not dependent on volume. Goes away when the phase inverter tube is pulled. Touching the ribbon connecters to the preamp tube sockets also causes buzz. Any ideas?
@andrewpartington7274
@andrewpartington7274 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like bad preamp tubes
@alecboyyes
@alecboyyes 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpartington7274 Unfortunately it isn't, tried swapping out preamp and power amp tubes and it still does it. May be a bad solder connection or something.
@andrewpartington7274
@andrewpartington7274 2 жыл бұрын
@@alecboyyes Ah bummer, hope you find the problem
@steveojamo1826
@steveojamo1826 2 жыл бұрын
a couple of videos back when repairing a blues jr you commented on a bright cap, which you removed. does the princeton reissue have anything similar? i can’t put my treble knob above a 4 without it ice-picking my ears. thanks
@GearZenChannel
@GearZenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Have you had a chance to look at one of the 64 Princeton Reverb hand wired reissues? If so, any thoughts?
@PsionicAudio
@PsionicAudio 2 жыл бұрын
Marketing amps. Poor lead dress, fake "blue" caps (cheap cap inside blue plastic molding), bias trem instead of opto trem just to sidestep ROHS.
@GearZenChannel
@GearZenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
​@@PsionicAudio Well, it worked - I bought one. :) A bit troubling that Fender would use cheap caps in a high priced "boutique" amp. At least I got it before the price increased and also got a discount. It does sound great and I hope that future maintenance will be more straight forward? I have some electronics in my past (military) so can probably manage if there is a problem. That wasn't the case when I had a problem with an Egnater Tweaker - that thing drove me nuts trying to fix and I gave up. After the fact I think it might have been a failing power transformer.
@maxpeck4154
@maxpeck4154 2 жыл бұрын
@@PsionicAudio I rather prefer bias trem. Never got on with opto. Bias is just richer and smoother
@weschilton
@weschilton 2 жыл бұрын
@@GearZenChannel Better replace those caps then...
@GearZenChannel
@GearZenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@weschilton I will probably just have a few on hand and replace when the time comes. The amp sounds killer.
@Arthur_My_Dear
@Arthur_My_Dear 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Can I ask if you’ve had any ‘68 Custom Princeton RI’s in with the rattle/fizzing problem, particularly on certain lower notes? Thanks
@PsionicAudio
@PsionicAudio 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you might have microphonic tubes. Especially if you have JJ 6V6Ss but it can happen with any 6V6.
@Arthur_My_Dear
@Arthur_My_Dear 8 ай бұрын
@@PsionicAudio Thanks, I’ll look into that
@lauratanner8475
@lauratanner8475 2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of ironic when the amps these reissues are based on ending up outlasting them.
@anthonysilva5312
@anthonysilva5312 2 жыл бұрын
Can anything be done to lower the hiss level in the custom?
@antoonhermans8953
@antoonhermans8953 2 жыл бұрын
it's scares me how all these amp brands make such mistakes in there design and the cheapo parts they use like fender does all the time .
@alecboyyes
@alecboyyes 2 жыл бұрын
It's all the more infuriating when you have amp techs giving free feedback on what the issues are.
@mccoma11
@mccoma11 2 жыл бұрын
What makes me mad is seeing all the problems and then looking at the price tag.
@mikejamieson419
@mikejamieson419 2 жыл бұрын
Is handwired sound better than pcb?
@EdgarsLS
@EdgarsLS 2 жыл бұрын
actually no, at 2 amps @ 120V you can generate up to 240watts of heat which would easilly melt those connections. and connectors melting like that usually are the cause of a bad connection, which is high in resistance and acts like a resistor. ofc that's not 100% chance that it always will be that.
@PsionicAudio
@PsionicAudio 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. And those quick connects are the very definition of a bad connection.
@r.weaver3769
@r.weaver3769 2 жыл бұрын
Like George Hamilton...
@yakacm
@yakacm 2 жыл бұрын
Funny the valves have, Groove Tubes, Electro Harmonix and Fender silkscreened on them, none of which I'd guess manufactured them, how and or why is that, anyone know?
@PsionicAudio
@PsionicAudio 2 жыл бұрын
EH is "real" in that it is not rebranded. EH tubes, like Mullard, Tung-Sol, and Sovtek, are made in the same factory in Russia.
@mtbmadman011
@mtbmadman011 Ай бұрын
Shame on modern Fender, cheap cheap cheap
@greatwhite3676
@greatwhite3676 2 жыл бұрын
I get what this guy is doing but not every amp can be a piece of shit
@PsionicAudio
@PsionicAudio 2 жыл бұрын
That's not what I'm doing. What I do is repair amps across a wide range of price points. If something fails I say why it failed. And when possible I show how to prevent that failure in the future, including how the manufacturer could have avoided that failure. Often at the same price point. The feathers this ruffles aren't a consideration for me. I'm not out to get certain companies. Neither do I gush about others. I said nice things about Germino and Top Hat because they earned it. Criticisms are also earned. I'm not a KZfaq channel that shits on amps. I'm an amp tech/designer who lets musicians know what's inside the box. Big difference.
@greatwhite3676
@greatwhite3676 2 жыл бұрын
@@PsionicAudio I dont have any feathers to ruffle. I dont make amps and the couple i do own i'm pretty happy with. That said i dont own any mass produced or super high end amps. I have been looking for a Princeton reverb and i will probably be staying away from these ones.
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